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Nearly 1 In 4 People Abandon Mobile Apps After Only One Use (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via TechCrunch: According to a new study on mobile app usage, nearly one in four mobile users only use an app once. TechCrunch reports: "Based on data from analytics firm Localytics, and its user base of 37,000 applications, user retention has seen a slight increase year-over-year from 34 percent in 2015 to 38 percent in 2016. However, just because this figure has recovered a bit, that doesn't mean the numbers are good. Instead, what this indicates is that 62 percent of users will use an app less than 11 times. These days, 23 percent launch an app only once -- an improvement over last year, but only slightly. For comparison's sake, only 20 percent of users were abandoning apps in 2014. On iOS, user retention saw some slight improvements. The percentage of those only opening apps once fell to 24 percent from 26 percent last year, and those who return to apps 11 times or more grew to 36 percent from 32 percent in 2015. In particular, apps in the middle stage of their growth (between 15,000 and 50,000 monthly active users), saw the strongest lift with retention and abandonment, the report also noted. This is attributed to these apps' use of push notifications, in-app messages, email, and remarking. While push notifications have always been cited as a way to retain users, in-app messages also have a notable impact -- these messages improve users retention to 46 percent, the study found. 17 percent will only use app once if they see an in-app message, but those not using messages see 26 percent of users abandoning the app after one session.

141 comments

  1. In other news by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    25% of mobile Apps are crap, and proof of that only becomes obvious when they are used for the first time.

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    1. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yup, and I think throwing out 25% is a rather *low* number. My results are worse. Top reasons I throw out apps: Push Notifications, too many ads, in-app messages, remarketing and e-mail...

      God, do I hate this crap. I wish more apps were just offering a paid option where I could get rid of all that, and also trust the app not to send usage data somewhere else. Which I consider spying.

    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You just have to look at the product descriptions in the Apple or Google store to see this.

      Many apps don't even bother to tell you anything about how the app works, instead the descriptions often are just pull quotes from reviews and lists of awards it won. Even when they're describing the app, they tend to be full of nebulous fluff and buzzwords. If you're lucky you'll get a few (non-fluff) sentences about what the product does, but absolutely no sense of how it is to use, or what benefits it has over competing products. Screenshots tend to be worthless as well, as they'll show the graphically pretty splash screens, but no shots of the app in actual use.

    3. Re:In other news by realmolo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hell, man. I would say 90% of mobile apps are crap.

      Most of the games aren't fun, and most of the ones that ARE fun throw so many advertisements and notifications at you that it's ridiculous, so they get uninstalled immediately.

      As for productivity apps...they're even worse. There are precious few truly USEFUL apps on a phone. The vast majority of them fall into the "treadmill in your basement" category - meaning, they SOUND useful, but you'll never actually bother with them.

    4. Re:In other news by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      only 25%??

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    5. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most android apps are terrible. (I've never had anything else) But this:

      "trust the app not to send usage data somewhere else"

      kills the rest of the fun for me when I'm looking for a new app. I wish they would stop pissing in my koolaid and then telling me that I shouldn't care.

    6. Re:In other news by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Hell, man. I would say 90% of mobile apps are crap.

      I wouldn't go as far as saying they're crap. I'd say that there are a lot of differently abled apps and that users are seeking the right app for the task they have to accomplish. It may take going through three or five "task managers" to find one that has a likable interface and all the features the user wants. God knows I've looked at a lot of them, and I'm still not really happy with any of them. Same thing for file browsers, messaging apps, etc. I've yet to find ANY of the messaging apps that doesn't try to interpret the content of certain texts as an address, or automatically try to reply via MMS. And this nonsense of putting texts in little "balloons" -- sheesh.

      And I can tell you, notifications from apps are one of the reasons I drop them. Unless the app truly needs to notify me of something (and most DO NOT), the first notification gets them on the list of probable deletions. And "push notifications" are especially bad. Messaging in an app? Same thing.

      And perhaps the invasive monitoring of use that is demonstrated by the data collection here, maybe that has something to do with it?

    7. Re:In other news by Simulant · · Score: 1

      25% of mobile Apps are crap



      That's a pretty generous estimate. Not only are there so many crap apps, you are forced to wade through many of them to find a good one, App store search is deliberately handicapped.
    8. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like the Play store and IOS app store need to start offering full refunds for apps that are only used briefly. Steam now allows refunds up to a certain amount of app use within 14-days. I can't connect to SteamPowered from work, so can't be more specific. Some developers of tiny apps are unhappy with the refund policy.

    9. Re:In other news by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      They're only used once because you have no way of knowing if they're utter shit until you load it. People have vain hope that the app might be merely mediocre or inadequate and are often disappointed. 10 seconds later it's deleted. Or you try four different apps that all say they do what you want, you try them out and see which actually works, then delete the other three.

      (heaven help us if poeple PAY for this shit and then don't use it)

    10. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or not used, as is my experience

      1. Download app
      2. App asks for Facebook, Twitter or Gmail login
      3. Delete app

      If I have yet to determine your app's usefulness, I'm not giving you my info. E.g. LetItGo

      This might be drastically different for iPhone people, but that's only because their account and payment info is already integrated.

    11. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      25% of mobile Apps are crap

      You're off by quite a bit. It's more like 99%.

    12. Re:In other news by chr1st1anSoldier · · Score: 1

      Sounds about the same as the Windows Phone store.

    13. Re:In other news by chr1st1anSoldier · · Score: 1

      You sound like a man that got burned by bing weather

      I feel yeah, I looked at bing weather on my windows phone and it said no rain today. "Cool," I say and take the motorcycle to work. It's been raining almost 4 hours now, plus flood warnings are being issued, and looking on weather underground this is not going to end anytime soon. I'm driving home in the rain.

      Thank's bing weather.

    14. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why that is modded up? "25% of people abandon mobile apps after only one use" is not equal to "25% of mobile apps are crap"

    15. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      25%? 99%?

    16. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds a great solution.

      Another... I wish iOS implemented a feature the Windows Phone marketplace had though - a trial license. Many programs can be installed and run for free but with features turned off or timebombed; and you can then upgrade to the full license through the store. Because it's store managed, there's only ONE version of the app in the store with the license being optional (vs. trying to do the same in iOS requires releasing a 'free' version and a 'paid' version so the store has two separate copies of your app.)

      Make the first week of use free and the bottom would drop out of the terrible-quality-app-market. Problem is Apple/Google/MS all skim money off these terrible apps..

    17. Re:In other news by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I find that about 1 in 20 of the apps I've downloaded stayed on my phone for any length of time. So few of them perform at any acceptable level and are so bad that free is too much. I have 2 that were excellent and I bought the premium versions. One of those is fbreader which I had been using for years on linux and decided to buy the premium version on android just to support development since the free version was perfectly functional.

    18. Re:In other news by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      Hell, man. I would say 90% of mobile apps are crap.

      Given that 90% of everything is crap, this shouldn't be a surprise.

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    19. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So rather than being 100% accurate, bing weather works the same as pretty much every other weather prediction mechanism ever invented by mankind. Is that the takeaway message of your post?

    20. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are precious few truly USEFUL apps on a phone. The vast majority of them fall into the "treadmill in your basement" category - meaning, they SOUND useful, but you'll never actually bother with them.

      I'm a software engineer and I feel this way about most phone apps that I encounter these days, especially third party ones that don't come bundled with the phone. Let's be honest, most smartphones these days already come with a mature bundle of the most common and useful apps. Maps, messaging, calendar, etc. The low hanging fruit was picked long ago by the likes of Google, Apple and Samsung. The increasing popularity of HTML5, Javascript and better client side web frameworks will only accelerate this trend away from dedicated phone apps in the years ahead. In the future, perhaps we will look back upon this time following the launch of the iPhone, in which native apps were the norm and everything seemed new, as something of an immature adolescence on the way towards more universal "apps", not natively installed. Besides, nobody wants to pay anything for a native phone app anymore and with platforms like Facebook sucking all of the oxygen out of the room in mobile advertising, your ad supported app is scratching out nickels and dimes, not making you rich. The gold rush days of the individual developer striking it rich quick with a native app, usually some stupid game, are probably gone for good. Even if you have a hit and sell 100,000 copies or more, it's not enough to retire and few people have more than a single hit before fading back into obscurity.

    21. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inconsistent user interface - having to learn a completely new set of icons to send email, copy-and-paste data, no clear exit buttons. Not helped by different mobile phones have buttons in completely the wrong place. Some actually have the volume control buttons right next to the camera lens on the back of the phone..

    22. Re:In other news by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      <blockquote>foo</blockquote>

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    23. Re:In other news by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      25% of mobile Apps are crap, and proof of that only becomes obvious when they are used for the first time.

      The thirty-day trial has become standard for computer applications, so why not for smartphone apps? Not a 'lite' version, but full functionality for a trial period.

    24. Re:In other news by alvarogmj · · Score: 1

      If only the F-Droid apps were better... I tend to look there first when I need something (just as I look for portable apps on Windows), but in general the apps are far worse than their functionally equivalent Play Store counterparts

    25. Re:In other news by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised that "asking for permissions the app has no reason to need" isn't on your list. I had a game that requested access to my photos, texts, and make and receive phone calls. What reason could a game has for those access rights?

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  2. I call them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    crApps.

  3. Scary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That means that 3 out of four folks that plays Angry Birds play it a second time??? God help us all!!!!!!

  4. Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Telephones do not have many useful applications beyond making telephone calls and writing SMS. Yes, you can try to schedule events with them or use them as an alarm clock unless your battery runs out, but mostly they are just used for a bit of entertainment.

    People in-the-know don't use mobile phones at all, except when they expect a call.

    1. Re:Hardly suprising by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      SMS, How Quaint. Using technology designed to use back channel communications for instant messaging that now runs over IP based networks, that does not provide realtime messaging.

      There are much much better options available out there that have way better support for things like better Group support, audio/video support, chatbots and automated responses.

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    2. Re:Hardly suprising by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      Telephones do not have many useful applications beyond making telephone calls and writing SMS. Yes, you can try to schedule events with them or use them as an alarm clock unless your battery runs out, but mostly they are just used for a bit of entertainment.

      People in-the-know don't use mobile phones at all, except when they expect a call.

      I didn't realize the definition of "in-the-know" was changed to "Old, outdated, left behind by current technology they are unable to adapt to their lives, typical /. user". When did that happen? Was there an announcement in the papers? I sure didn't see it in the latest news reel at the cinema.

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    3. Re:Hardly suprising by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      I guess telephone development ceased in 2005 for trolls? It's a shame, because in the last week alone, I've been able to use mine for productive purposes like...

      - Alerting me to take cover immediately because there's a tornado at my location
      - Giving me turn-by-turn directions when I travel to a new place
      - Saving electricity by turning on/off my thermostat and lights based on if I'm at home
      - Enhancing security by turning on cameras when I leave and alerting me if anything is amiss
      - Warning me that it's about to rain so I can make preparations
      - Allowing me to video chat with far away family
      - Providing a flashlight in dark places

      Plus, I used it as an alarm clock and for entertainment too, of course. ;)

    4. Re:Hardly suprising by Harlequin80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And SMS is still king because every single person with a phone has access to SMS. If I want to send a message to someones phone SMS is the only system where I know they will get it.

      This is made more so if you are in a country where most mobile plans have unlimited SMS included.

    5. Re:Hardly suprising by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I agree that smartphones are for the most part toys, but they definitely are useful replacements for other things that we used to carry around. When is the last time you saw an address book? Or a dayplanner? There is an app called CamScanner which uses the high-res camera on your phone to "scan" documents - I use this regularly when away from my home scanner. My bank has an app that lets me deposit checks by snapping photos. Quicken is pretty much dead, thanks to apps that let me keep track of expenses as they occur rather than sifting through a pile of receipts once in a while.

      I'm also not sure how you could lump SMS into "useful" and not also throw email or other instant messaging services in the same pile. Ditto for Skype/Facetime.

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    6. Re:Hardly suprising by BoberFett · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why would a person use anything other than SMS/MMS? It's universal.

      "I need to let my poker group know that I have to cancel tonight. I'll just WhatsApp Jim and... Oh shit, Dave is on Facebook Messenger. OK, I think they might both have... Oh wait, Bob uses that stupid app with all the goddamn anime pictures, whatever the fuck that is. And Tim still uses that shitty dumbphone. Guess I'll use SMS."

    7. Re:Hardly suprising by armanox · · Score: 1

      I'll be honest - 90% (and that is based off of 10 group chats that I can find in my phone history for the past 4 years) I would have been just as happy without. Since I work in a location that has very poor cell reception (that was non-existant when I started here nine years ago, then barely appeared about the time NSA moved in across the street...we joked at the next company all hands meeting that our new off-site backup provider was nice enough to put an office by us) basic SMS works quite well for me - I can get messages, but anyone trying to send me more then that knows not to send it to my phone, that it'll have to wait until I get back home.

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    8. Re:Hardly suprising by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      OK, you just listed about ten uses for your phone, and several of them probably came preloaded on your phone, with no need to download them from whatever app store you use. Various App stores claim to have more than one million apps. What that tells me is that 1 in 4 is way too low, I wouldn't be surprised if 99 out of 100 apps are deleted within on use.

    9. Re:Hardly suprising by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      I wasn't addressing any of that. I was merely addressing the OP's statement that phones have an extraordinarily limited set of useful applications that hasn't really grown in the last decade.

      For my part, I agree with you that most apps are crap, and I am, as you, surprised that the number was only 1 in 4. I can't count the number of times I've done stuff like downloading 20 apps in a category (e.g. weather, alarm clock, calculator, etc.), opened each once, picked the one I liked, and trashed the other 19.

    10. Re:Hardly suprising by jandrese · · Score: 1

      People who get charged $.35 per message they send or receive? That shit gets old quick. I actually ditched Verizon because they wouldn't offer a reasonable SMS plan. It was either $.35 per (running up to about $15-$20/month) or an outrageous $20/month unlimited plan.

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    11. Re:Hardly suprising by vux984 · · Score: 2

      SMS, How Quaint

      Not really.

      There are much much better options available out there that

      That all require the users who want to communicate to all agree to download a particular app, and agree to particular terms of service from a particular entity, and connect to a particular backend.

      I can SMS pretty much anybody; anywhere so long as they have an SMS capable phone or voip service. For a technology that's quaint... it accomplishes things that all its so-called replacements still can't touch.

      I've started using telegram... because its the 'least objectionable' solution I can find that does a few things i want that SMS doesn't do -- desktop client, sync across multiple devices, almost-but-not-quite open. (client is GPL... server... not)
      But the thing about telegram... is only a few people i know use it.

    12. Re:Hardly suprising by BoberFett · · Score: 2

      Ouch, my ass hurts just looking at those numbers. $.35/message? In this day and age? I'm not saying I don't believe you, just shocked that kind of things still exists.

    13. Re:Hardly suprising by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Also, anything that is particularly popular will likely get built in shortly.

      Maps, navigation, calculator, web browser, email, music, all built in.

      Outside of that I use facebook, an rpn calculator, whatsapp (for foreigners, probably a corner case for US use), a dating app if I'm single, a podcast all (I'm guessing built in soon), Netflix, Hulu, and HBO, to control my TV.

      Part of the issue is most apps suck (as in most sites make an app worse than their home page with limited function).

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    14. Re:Hardly suprising by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

      last time you saw an address book?

      I've never used one. All of my contacts are stored in email. Always worked perfectly and has never failed in 20 years, I haven't had to learn any new software, is perfectly searchable (I have a unique tag that I use for different types of information and forward it to myself) and is available on any device with internet connection including a vt100 n a vax. I have even written papers in email programs and imported them (cut&paste) into word processors for final formatting.

      Or a dayplanner?

      Never used one, but calendar.google works perfect.

    15. Re:Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My landline doesn't do SMS. Neither do the dozen-odd old cell phones that are sitting in boxes, collecting dust.

    16. Re:Hardly suprising by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      If only there were a universal protocol that ties people to a domain name and can allow them to send messages between each other. Maybe a few set of protocols as well, one for chat, like an Internet Relay Chat, and another one being a Simple Mail Transport Protocol.

      Nobody wants to publish standards anymore, they just want to create their own shitty infrastructure based around obscurity.

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    17. Re: Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sms maybe "quaint" but it works reliably,quickly and anywhere in the world ,let's see how your all singing all danceing ip based system works without a decent data line shall we ?

    18. Re: Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So learn to look out the window/around you and learn to read maps,your another fool who will be up shite creek the minute their idiot phone dies..
      People managed to do all of those things you mentioned long before the invention of the "smart" phone.
      "smartphone" a term I bet that was invented by an American or for the American market..
      Can you cut and paste yet on the only phone made in America by Americans for Americans,or are they still flogging old bits in shiny bodies ?
      One day,we may actually get what many have dreamed of,a real handheld pc that can do actual real work,but it will be decades yet, because of America and Americans..

    19. Re: Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Winmo 6.5 had cameras ten years ago,guess what,you could take a photo of a page of text and save and share it..
      Is hardly a good use of enough computing power that in theory should be able to run three full desktop pc systems,but in the real world can hardly run a couple of small apps at the same time without grinding to a halt,I wish folk would stop calling them smartphones,their not,their inefficient under processored pieces of expensive junk,made for cloned sheeple to play idiot games on and to spout utter gargage to each other with..

    20. Re: Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your buggered anywhere that has no net connection,steal your phone and your life ends .how sad.and I bet folk think your intelligent and smart,not realising that if they stole your phone,wiped your net accounts you would be totally buggered,I hope your not like the fool I met a few months ago,kept his 4000 bitcoin wallet code on his idiotphone,along with the rest of his life,so I hid it,the fool didn't know one phone to contact anyone in his family,not even his wife's !!! I have his phone back after two hours,it was nearly killing him being without,he couldn't call anyone,couldn't remember emails,not anything written anywhere,a "smartphone" in the hands of a moron..

    21. Re:Hardly suprising by Alumoi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Forgive him, he's from US. You know, the country where people are charged for everything up to the maximum ammount they can bear. Then charged some more if they want NOT to be charged. It's all for they convenience, you know :P

    22. Re:Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's universally shitty. Lucky I live in China where everyone uses WeChat. It blows garbage like the stupidly named WhatsApp out of the water. SMS is now only used for spam, bank notifications, and dumb niggers that don't know any better.

    23. Re:Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two words for you: GOOGLE VOICE.

    24. Re:Hardly suprising by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Some countries don't even have SMS any more, or at least half the providers have turned it off and the other half charges a small fortune per message. This is particularly true in Asia where the need for multi-byte characters makes the 1120 available bits only good for about 70 characters per message. I remember at least as far back as 1999 with the introduction of iMode, Japanese carriers were supplying every phone with an email address and cheaper email access than SMS.

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    25. Re:Hardly suprising by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Your solution seems to work for you, and that's great. But they didn't make address books for no reason, people used to use them! Typically you would have two or three. At the least, you'd have a big "family" one at home that was basically a master file. Then you would have a portable one. That would fit in a purse, pocket, glove box, etc. and would only have a subset of your numbers in it. If you were white collar, you probably also had one at work - probably a Rolodex :) By analogy, it sounds like you don't have a need for the little portable one, and that's great. Many of us need access to our contacts while out and about, though. I had an address book, a Casio "organizer", then a Palm Pilot, and now a smart phone.

      Same story with dayplanners. Google calendar is also my replacement for a home calendar. For the little spiral-bound notebook replacement, though, it's not very portable. The Casio organizer was not up to the task, the Palm was though. But once I had a phone in my pocket anyway, the Palm went bye-bye.

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    26. Re:Hardly suprising by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      ....And exactly ZERO of those will help you work or make you any money. I guess people stopped knowing what "Productivity apps" meant in 2005?

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    27. Re:Hardly suprising by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

      It was weird, I came from living in Germany and people used SMS over there all of the time, the US hardly at all. It was only like a penny to send in Germany, but like a nickle here, then it went to 15cents. It was crazy.

    28. Re:Hardly suprising by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

      Of course it wasn't announced, why would anyone want you to ditch their perfect person tracker that also sends unencrypted SMS and phone calls right to their servers?

    29. Re: Hardly suprising by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Winmo 6.5 had cameras ten years ago,guess what,you could take a photo of a page of text and save and share it..

      Almost everything that a smartphone can do was previously done by a different device, so I'm not sure where you are going. But in this case cameras have improved and now even fine text is readable, even after the automatic cropping, rotating, and distorting is done.

      Is hardly a good use of enough computing power that in theory should be able to run three full desktop pc systems

      By itself, it's a terrible use. But since you are carrying it around anyway... kind of like with music. Smartphones are terrible MP3 players. My iPod from 10 years ago was a better experience. But why carry two devices?

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    30. Re:Hardly suprising by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Who said anything about productivity apps? I wasn't talking about them. He wasn't talking about them. So why are you assuming we were? You do realize that if someone says, "There was a lot of action at the game today", it doesn't mean they've gotten the Action and Sports genres confused, right? I talked about "productive purposes", but I clearly wasn't talking about the genre of apps, and the word "productive" doesn't just refer to work done in the service of your employment any more than "action" only refers to car chases and blazing guns.

    31. Re:Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why you use something like Signal (or iMessage, I guess) that falls back to SMS for anyone not using the same app.

    32. Re:Hardly suprising by alvarogmj · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the problem being nobody knows what IRC is, and most people (especially those who don't use email at work) never checks email, even if their phones require an email address to function as intended (like Android).

      Somebody should make an app which looks like whatsapp but works over standard email. The overhead of the standard email headers could make it quite inefficient, but at least we wouldn't have to worry about who uses which service.

    33. Re:Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem here is not with sms, but with the plan that charge for sms. Replace the carrier, or start your own carrier even.

    34. Re:Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smartphones have manu uses beyond calls/sms:
      1. Surfing the web, no need to bring a pc/tablet just to look up some stuff
      2. Look at maps, (with or without navigating the streets too)
      3. Trace movement using gps, for a variety of purposes
      4. Shut up backseat kids with some game

    35. Re:Hardly suprising by jandrese · · Score: 1

      I guess I wasn't clear. That was one of the reasons I ditched Verizon and went with a carrier with free SMS. Coverage isn't as good, but it's sufficient for my needs.

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    36. Re:Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I want to send a message to someones phone SMS is the only system where I know they will get it.

      Uh, you don't have Verizon I'm guessing?

    37. Re: Hardly suprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you ranting about you absolute flog?

    38. Re:Hardly suprising by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      Of course it wasn't announced, why would anyone want you to ditch their perfect person tracker that also sends unencrypted SMS and phone calls right to their servers?

      People in-the-know find being tracked, while being aware that you are being tracked, to be a tactical advantage.

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    39. Re:Hardly suprising by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I didn't know that.

      Here in Australia SMS is free on anything other than a cheap plan. Sure Whatsapp and others have market penetration but you wouldn't want to rely on it.

    40. Re:Hardly suprising by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      don't have a need for the little portable one

      ? Full functioning email is available on phones now.

    41. Re:Hardly suprising by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Not in the US. But are you saying a verizon mobile won't receive an SMS?

    42. Re:Hardly suprising by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Obviously I meant mobile. But what cell phones have you got that don't get SMS? Even my old analogue mobile got sms.

    43. Re:Hardly suprising by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Well then I'm very confused. You ARE using your phone to play the part of an address book and day planner.

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    44. Re:Hardly suprising by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1
      No, just plain text email, cell phone or not as long as I had internet connection and web browser or telnet/ssl.

      A search "sandra qqaddr" pulls up all the addresses with sandra in the record. Likewise search qqdate "Jul 1" pulls up all records that have a Jul and 1 somewhere in the text. I used to store things more structured (/friends, /business, /emergency, /relatives, /etc), but realized that search was as useful. It's horribly inefficient, but is still instantaneous, it's easy and I can store whatever unstructured type of information I want.

    45. Re:Hardly suprising by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      That's super, but just an implementation detail. I thought you were debating my point, sorry for the confusion.

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  5. Really need figures on first screen by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What would be lots more useful to me in understanding this data is how many of the apps abandoned after one use, had some kind of registration screen as the first step - I'm pretty sure that MANY apps are shedding users like mad simply because they ask for ANY information about you up front instead of just letting you use the app for a while before committing.

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    1. Re:Really need figures on first screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know what you mean. I was looking for a running app, one that would record distance, time, elevation, but didn't require participation in the social network they were trying to build. I tried 3 that asked me to login via Facebook or Google, so I quit and uninstalled each of them after one try. The one I did keep does annoy me about joining their community when I start and stop it, but in between it leaves me alone.

      I guess some people want to be social about everything. As for me, I run to get away from social interaction. I don't really care if my time is better or worse than that of some stranger I'll never meet.

      Now that I think about it, it usually takes about 4 tries to get an app that I'll keep. Most get deleted because they require registration, or they don't do what they say they're going to do.

    2. Re:Really need figures on first screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i've been using sportypal for years. don't pay for the subscription, it's not needed. only feature it adds is workout syncing across devices (and in case of factory resets/flashes) but all your data is kept on their servers anyway.

    3. Re:Really need figures on first screen by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      "CoolApp37 wants to use your location information to provide a more personalized experience, Accept or Disallow?"

    4. Re:Really need figures on first screen by c · · Score: 1

      This. Many times this.

      I'm not really interested in registering or logging into your app just to see if I'd like it. Particularly if your app isn't really something which should *need* the cloud. A social networking app is pretty much all about the cloud. A 3D modelling app... isn't.

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    5. Re:Really need figures on first screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A million times this... I just uninstalled Google Maps from my iPhone. I set its location permissions to only when using or visible. All of a sudden the google maps icon appears on my lock screen. It's "visible" all the time now, so I uninstalled.

      A lot of apps do this kind of shady crap. When I catch them I uninstall then.

      But I think the biggest reason that a lot of apps get installed once and then abandoned is that people are too busy iMasturbating with their iShiny. They don't really need all those apps, or even the ability to have them. They want it because it makes them feel sophisticated to be able to install some crap app that performs some task they wouldn't ever really want to do, or understand. I often see a lot of people showing off all kinds of specialized engineering apps on their phones because I am an engineer. Yet these people wouldn't have the first clue what the app is doing, let-alone when they would need to use it. The same probably applies with every other app out there.

    6. Re:Really need figures on first screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exactly. 25% sounds like bullshit.

    7. Re:Really need figures on first screen by rhazz · · Score: 1

      +1. My baby monitor comes with an Android app to allow you to view the feed when you are on the same wifi as the monitor. I used to use the app all the time rather than carry around the remote handset. Then the company released an app update which forces you to register an account with the company before you can access the feed. Instant delete. Fuck you Summer Infant.

  6. so intense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait...
    1 in 4 people abandon *all* mobile apps after only one use?
    1 in 4 people abandon *some* mobile apps after only one use?
    1 in 4 people abandon *any* mobile apps after only one use?
    or 1 in 4 downloads are only used once?
    What does this mean?

  7. Bitdefender Anti-Ransomware is looking good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Direct Download from official site:
    http://download.bitdefender.co...

    It may not stop ALL ransomware, but it receives updates and protects against some of them. The link above will probably remain the same throughout new versions/updates. It will launch and appear in your tray once you install and reboot your computer. I like it, it's simple and free(ware). I wish it were open source though.

  8. Believable but so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most apps are crap. They don't do what they advertise to do or even if they do are so loaded with either unwanted security holes or unwanted crap that interferes with the usage of the app. I've found many good apps that I simply won't have on my phone because, 1. They don't explain why they need access to (you pick), mainly my contacts. 2. Why they are so large. 22MB for a flashlight only app. Really? Turn my flash on and off on my camera needs 22MB where I found an app that does it in 2MB. 3. If you don't have a firewall on your phone you're a fool. You have no idea how many times and what is being sent from those apps and that is going to burn you someday. Maybe not by identity theft but by draining your battery.

    Look, even the Facebook app is frightening. If you have that the microphone is turned on and they listen to your conversations that are occurring when you don't know it. If you don't believe me that was just proven in the nightly news last week. After they listen to you they provide with the greatest ads that they know that you must want and love.

    If you download ANY app from the Samsung store you're automatically asking for trouble. If you're not convinced then download them. But I won't tell you I told you so as I don't really care about fools and horses.

    1. Re:Believable but so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A firewall may help you against identity theft, but it sure won't help with the batteries. Before, the app would send your contact details to China, then go into powersaving. With the firewall, it will try to access the chinese site and retry and retry and retry and maybe go into powersaving when the tcp session times out. Or maybe retry the TCP connection a few times too. People who write that kind of app is that stupid.

  9. Shitty one-time apps, meet webapp! by Kid+CUDA · · Score: 0

    I hope these kind of studies reach the ears of Apple and Google so that they may push for 100% HTML5+JavaScript based webapps.

    Currently, specs exist to use just about any feature imaginable from native apps with JavaScript, but a lot of them remain unimplemented.

    I understand their business decision. After all, it's much easier to take a piece of the cake when you control 100% of the distribution. But it's not fair to the user or the app developers to force everyone into making sloppy native apps.

    1. Re:Shitty one-time apps, meet webapp! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear $Deity no. JavaScript is absolute garbage. I'd rather go back to a dumb phone than have to program in that flaming pile of shit you consider to be a programming language.

    2. Re:Shitty one-time apps, meet webapp! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you talking about? You can do the new Angular2 pretty much entirely in TypeScript now.

      Actually as a javascript hater myself, its gotten much better over the last 2 years. You can almost entirely avoid JQuery now and have very minimal javascript to get quite a good functional website.

    3. Re:Shitty one-time apps, meet webapp! by swilver · · Score: 1

      It still uses javascript, that needs to be interpreted, that runs within an incredibly resource hungry app called a browser.

      Native apps run much faster and consume much less resources. On top of that, they integrate much better with the rest of the system.

    4. Re:Shitty one-time apps, meet webapp! by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      Having write once run everywhere apps that can run in an interpreted environment in browser, what could possibly go wrong? Why didn't someone think of this 20 years ago?

    5. Re:Shitty one-time apps, meet webapp! by Kid+CUDA · · Score: 1

      I'm sensing irony here, but I honestly don't get what you're referring to. Care to explain?

  10. I throw out most apps after one use too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So many apps are junky or the games aren't fun. Boom uninstall within seconds.

  11. My App-ettite plateaued after a certiain point by TigerPlish · · Score: 3

    I'm an iOS user. (just so we're clear that I don't play in the Google ecosystem)

    At first (2009) I was app-crazy and tried out a large array of things. But within a year, I found I had settled on a core set of apps:

    1. Games. Old games, like PacMan, Battleship, Sonic, Centipede, etc etc etc). Hell, the folder they're in is called "Time-Out" (Anyone remember Time-Out arcades?)

    2. Audio utilities: DB meter, DB grapher, spectrum analyzer

    3. Timekeepers -- a clock utility to detect and correct problems with clocks - mechanical, pendulum clocks, an addiction of mine, a watch log, to keep time of how my windup watches are doing

    4. Creative: Painting, animation, not that I have any talent for this at all. And iBooks and Kindle, both which see much use, moreso in the ipad than in the phone. Also a video editor, video effects, and in the ipad, imovie. One can make a passable little movie with just a phone. An app to put speech balloons and make multi-panel photos out of many other photos.

    After that, just a smattering of weird stuff like a Roman to Arabic number converter, a useless light meter that reads in foot-candles, crossword / anagram app, and ookla's speed test.

    I haven't bought or downloaded a new app in more than a year. Why? I got all I need! Oh yeah, my first real nice app was Calcbot, because i like having a paper tape like in the old days.

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    1. Re:My App-ettite plateaued after a certiain point by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      You are an extraordinary case of nonrepresentative sample. I mean, by standard deviations you are way the hell outside the norm.

      Please do not confuse anecdote for data.

    2. Re:My App-ettite plateaued after a certiain point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comments suggest that you may have access to more data. I'd be curious what the actual numbers are - do you have a link you might be able to share?

    3. Re:My App-ettite plateaued after a certiain point by antdude · · Score: 1

      Are those classic games free? I'd like to add MAME and its ROMs to iOS v9.3.2, but can't. :(

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    4. Re:My App-ettite plateaued after a certiain point by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

      No, not free. But not outrageous, either. A buck or three?

      They're not the ROMs like you'd get in mame, but most of these guys have done a really good job on keeping it real.

      Dragon's Lair on iphone was amazing, it was the actual footage used in the actual game, but it stopped working (crash on launch) after iOS 8 and it seems it never got updated.

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    5. Re:My App-ettite plateaued after a certiain point by antdude · · Score: 1

      Ah thanks. I love old retro gaming! :)

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  12. 1 in 4 seems low by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    As a developer, "1 in 4" seems low based on usage stats. I know I almost never install "the app" for any brand - if/when I want something from them I just pull up the web site (and if their site doesn't work on my mobile device, fuck 'em). However, I'm happy to see corporations continue to pour money into the "we need our own app" hole.

    1. Re:1 in 4 seems low by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I tend to like the apps better, but there are exceptions. Facebook was using hundreds of megabytes on my phone to display some photos with text... um, what? So that's gone, with the bonus that messenger works fine through the web interface.

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  13. That's nothing! by wardrich86 · · Score: 2

    I abandoned all the shit my ISP and phone manufacturer gave me after 0 uses!

  14. Could this be because apps are $1 a pop? by rsborg · · Score: 2

    I'd try and abandon a lot more software on my laptop if it was seriously pocket-change territory in terms of pricing.

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  15. We learn two things! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    It would appear that 'apps' are rather intrusive if they are phoning home enough that we can say how many are opened only once. It would also appear that users are substantially less harsh in their assessments than the miserable shovel ware of the mobile world deserves if so many are being opened at all.

  16. The app ratings system suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I look at an App, the rating rarely indicates how good it is. This is due to many apps using various methods to get people who like the app to rate it, and those that don't not too. If you've ever seen the in app message box: Would you give this app 5 stars? [Yes] [No]. Where Yes takes you to rate the app, and No takes you too a feedback form.

    On the flip side I've seen many 3.5 star apps which are wonderful, but people are downrating it as punishment for putting in some change they don't like, or the 100th time they've used it something bad happened.

    Without a good rating system, it is hard to pick out good apps from crap ones.

  17. 1 in 4 people are LUDDITES. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modern app appers ONLY app apps, and they keep apping apps while apping other apps! Only LUDDITES abandon apps because they're too stupid to figure out how to app the app!

    Apps!

  18. Limited use by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    From what I see, most apps are designed with a narrow view that comes from how the app's author wanted to use the app. There is no time taken to make the UI more robust so that it works for more people. I just chalked this up to a lot of self-starters making apps as opposed to people with real UI design training.

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  19. Fyber and Tapjoy credits for 1 use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Advertising networks like Fyber and Tapjoy encourage installing apps for a single use. Only by running the app once do these game libraries provide credits in the form of game "gold" or "gems." Once the credits have been applied, there is little advantage to the user to keep the app installed. In fact, in some cases, it can be shown that leaving an app installed can be highly invasive to the privacy of the user.

  20. ONLY 1 in 4? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I'd have guessed that at the very least 3 out of 4, or closer to 9 out of 10 apps only get started once. If 3 out of 4 people actually keep using apps they download that means that the quality has to be surprisingly high. Consider:

    1) Most apps are free, lowering the bar to download and install it close to zero.
    2) Most "pseudo-free" apps (read: nearly all the "free" ones) want money from you no later than when they showed you the basic functionality, i.e. what you get to see the first time you start it.

    So that either means that apps really offer enough quality for people to throw money at them, or people are just generally dumb enough to sink micropayment after micropayment... Ok, ok, I stop here before I lose faith in humanity.

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  21. Pedantry alert! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    Nearly 1 In 4 People Abandon Mobile Apps After Only One Use...

    How do they do that without using up all the space on their phone?

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    1. Re:Pedantry alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that, on most computers, you can delete programs that you have installed?

  22. Figure is too low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It feels more like 3/4

  23. Yo by steak · · Score: 1

    I totally

  24. The Mobile market has mostly been a bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Show the real stats. How many months does the average paid app actually last on a phone.

    The mobile app market is little more than a giant pyramid scam. They make broken operating systems then you guy to play detective to figure out which app half ass solves the problem until Google or Apple get around to fixing it. Which someone takes years even when three are millions of ppl demand often the most simple features.

    It seems to me Google has bitten off far more than they can chew and Apple really doesn't care as long as their profits are high. Google really has no business designing UIs. They don't have a single app with good UI. If they are in charge of our top mobile OS, we are all screwed.

    Not to mention Google's main point of existence and most direct profit model is literally to mine personal data as much as possible. The more personal data an app can get and 'share' the more money Google makes.

    That's why the app store has such light regulation. Google doesn't want to be too hyrpocritical, but in doing that they are asking everyone to put all their most personal data into a totally insecure platform.

    I've never seen a time where private information security was so bad. Even in the PC days the limiting factor was that people only tend to put a limited amount of personal info in a PC. A phone is even more personal and with todays app looking for every personal data angle it's worse than ever. Combine that with unregulated foreign manufacturing, OEM software controls of apps and OS updates and the general splintered nature of Android and Google OS is mostly a joke.

    Internet devices are going to make Android look stupid and at the rate Google is going they will never catch up. They are try to do too much and not focusing on the OS. All that app revenue went to their heads I guess and they forgot that if they ignore the core platform uses will start to hate everything Google since they have a daily reminder with the phone OS and apps that they are no longer happy with.

    The mobile experience just hasn't improved enough for the amount of money people have spent, mostly based on hype and trend buying. It's a bubble because smartphones have not lived up to their promises. They are not automating our lives and in general I think they slow us down by offering inferior ways to do things we used to do with less time on a PC.

    Instead of scheduling our tasks to get them done fast many people try to complete tasks on mobile devices where input is many times slower. That may be convenient, but your daily productivity will go down in most cases if you use a smartphone for much else than taking calls, reading texts and reading emails.

    As soon as your inputting data into a smartphone, you're losing work hours and productivity, You also have turned your workers portable communications devices into some all in one entertainment gaming system. Most users need to game or watch significant entertainment on their phones. They need apps that directly improve productivity by REDUCING the amount of time we spend doing things and AUTOMATING our lives.

    Smartphones are doing the opposite. They a time sinks and primarily for entertainment. In many cases the access to these huge app stores winds up harming the phone and distracting the phone owner without providing enough benefits for the time they waste. It's not a great device to read on. Many times they are inferior to flip phones for calling and certainly far inferior in battery life.

    The list goes on as to why smartphones have mostly failed to be anything other than overpriced and entirely unnecessary entertainment devices instead of the personal assistants most ppl wanted. Tailoring these platforms into productive platforms just takes far too much expertise for the average person. Yet Google could easily add in all the proper voice command and shortcuts as well as proper altering code to fix smartphones.

    They just don't care because the more time you waste on a phone the more money they make. They don't see any direct r

    1. Re:The Mobile market has mostly been a bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow.
      Thinking that when I was kid and a student (I'm young still) I dreamed of having a tiny PC like Toshiba Libretto (Windows 95 and 98) or Olivetti Quaderno. The firmer was unaffordable ($2000?, $4000? I don't know) and the latter was an antique. But even that one would likely have run a lot of useful or interesting DOS software.

      I've not bought into smartphones : I can't, since Google turned "let's be evil afterall" a couple years ago, that is when they changed their terms to let you know they follow you around everywhere and cross-examine the data. So there's no way I'll log in to Google Play. Youtube external players / downloaders allow to bypass "connect to verify you're 18 or older" on some videos, thus I could destroy a YouTube account turned Google account.

      I do have a browser-only "privacy oriented" phone bought at fire sale which serves as a tablet, SD reader, backup wifi adapter, backup browser when the PC is dead. What's hilarious is it just runs the web unfiltered. Feeling dirty.
      I never thought I'd have such powerful and high res mobile hardware (it's low end mind you) but I'm just stuck with nothing worth doing on it. Still dreaming of either a Libretto (1990s quality keyboard) or something with actual gaming controls (digital) so that time wasted is better wasted. (or so that navigating with hardware keys is an option, too)

  25. Re:In other niggers by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3

    Thank you for an illustrative example of crapp.

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  26. 90% of everything is crap (Sturgeon). Also, one-ti by raymorris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A well known quote called Sturgeon's Revelation or Sturgeon's law is "90% of everything is crap". It's certainly true of the software code I've seen, and of the (small) sample of accounting work I've had reason to examine.

    In addition, two other factors are probably are work.

    If I intend to use an app for something I do often, I frequently click to download the top two or three, trying out each one as the next one downloads. If I'm going to use it often, I may as well select the one I like best. This is more true on Android than iOS, because iOS has fewer free apps. I'm unlikely to BUY three apps in order to compare them.

    On the other hand, if I download an app for something I do NOT do frequently, I may well use the app for the task at hand and be done with it. It's not that I didn't use it again because it sucked. Maybe I only used it once because I only need to build one set of stairs, or fix one ipad, or whatever. It may have worked perfectly well, so the job is done and I don't need it anymore.

  27. It's because most suck by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Most mobile apps, as in nearly 90% of them are utter crap and deserve to be abandoned after one use.

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  28. Meaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... one in four mobile users only use an app once ...

    They're suggesting that every fourth applet user habitually abandons apps for reasons of disappointment/entertainment/curiosity. If a random user abandoned an app, it would be more sensible to claim that one in four apps are abandoned.

  29. i abandon them if by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    they put any form of advertising on my phone, i figure if the include advertising then they built the app to make money (not that theres anything wrong with that) but i want small simple apps that stick to the UNIX philosophy "Does One Thing and does it well" if i want a more elaborate app i will pay for it, an android phone has just about everything i want in a smartphone, so if i put on an addon it was because i was bored and spending my spare time browsing google play store for some interesting technology that can use my phone in a new way, not that i needed anything, if i really needed something i would rather pay cash for it than be spammed ads that turns my phone in to a hand held billboard of advertising, adware is the first to go, next is apps that dont work cleanly and good, i also look at required permissions and package size, if they seem too bloated or want to do more than required then i wont install them in the first place,

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  30. Several apps for 1 itch by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Typically I decide I need an app to do foo. Read the reviews, install the top 3-4 that look like they'll suit my needs, try them all out, then stick with the best one. The others get deleted.

    As someone else pointed out, the #1 thing that makes me delete your app before even getting to it is a registration screen, or some other screen that makes me do something other that what the app does. Had one app a few years back that, it turned out, I'd only installed the screen that asked for my credit card info so it could download the real app. Did anyone actually fall for that?

  31. I don't use that many anyway... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, my phone uses CM13 and the only apps I use are Firefox and Waze.

  32. Easy: Permissions and Ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Open any app for the first time and you'll learn two things: either it requires more permissions than you're willing to give or it has intrusive advertising.

  33. I seem to need a countdown timer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. 1 minute to rinse/gargle

    2. 20 minutes till train gets here

    3. 5 minutes till Uber arrives

    4. 15 minutes till stripper greets Ken Happy birthday

    5. 30 minutes till the pain killers take effect

    No, the stopwatch doesn't cut it.

  34. Reminds me of the Great Game Crash of 81 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or around then. The mobile market is 1% usable software (not necessarily good either) and a huge mess of scammy crappy clones and poorly designed software.

  35. Windows Phone: Don't need apps by DogDude · · Score: 2

    I use a Windows Phone. It's got all kinds of shit built in. I actually don't have any "apps" installed, and I use my phone pretty much constantly. Having to cobble together everything my phone does with lots of unrelated, 3rd party apps would suck. I cringe every time I see an iOS or Android phone, and the main menu screen looks like my grandparent's Windows 95 desktop.

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  36. Scopes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will be the year of Linux mobile. Scoping with scopes is the new apping.

    Scopes!

  37. Notifications suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Posting dumb notifications is a good way to get me to uninstall your app, not keep using it.

    Also pretty common for me to install an app, try it briefly, then uninstall it because its garbage. do that 5-10x until I find one that works and its easy to see how the stats pile up.

  38. Re:first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck systemd and windows 10

    Better to fuck systemd than fuck another man in the ass.

  39. Totally normal by J-1000 · · Score: 1

    The times are changing. Why not try everything? It's all free to try if not free outright, and it's just as easy to procure the software as it is to read an article about it. So of course this won't have the commitment we're used to on older platforms. There's no barrier to participate. No financial commitment, and no difficulty finding and installing the software.

    1. Re:Totally normal by Shag · · Score: 1

      This. Given the size of the iTunes Store and Google Play, if you want a certain kind of app, there are probably 20 free ones you can download and try to see which one you like best. My phone says I downloaded 26 free Sudoku apps at some point in the distant past - but for some strange reason, I only kept one of those.

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  40. Wait until they study game bundles by ET3D · · Score: 1

    Probably 90% of bundled games don't even get installed, or only used for Steam card farming.

  41. Permissions by suss · · Score: 1

    I abandon most "Apps" when i see the ridiculous permissions they want (and don't need to function).

  42. Don't get the statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead, what this indicates is that 62 percent of users will use an app less than 11 times

    Right, can't be bothered to RTFA, but I don't get this statistic. Does this mean 62 percent of users will use at least one app less than 11 times? Or all apps less than 11 times? Or a specific app less than 11 times? In which case, doesn't it matter which app we are talking about?

    If 38% of users never use an app fewer than 11 times, then I'd say that's a great success rate of the app idea

  43. This IS good by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

    "However, just because this figure has recovered a bit, that doesn't mean the numbers are good"

    Arg! These ARE good numbers!

    In the past we had to actually buy software, or find a demo on some random web page or download site that might be filled with viruses.

    Now I go to a single location where I can find millions of programs, and instantly try them to see if I like them.

    How can anyone think this is bad? It's simply Sturgeon's law sped up.

  44. Crapp Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I fall into this category, almost all apps I have used really stink. I will not pay for any more for the same reason.

  45. Sometimes it's a fail, sometimes not by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

    There are a number of reasons for using an app only once or a few times. Some of them signal failure by the developers; some do not.

    The out and out failures: the app may be poorly designed. It may not do what it claims to do. It may not run reliably on my hardware. It may have advertising that is excessively intrusive. It may continually update and drain my battery. It may not provide as good an experience as the company's web site does.

    The competitive failures: I may discover an app that I like more. When I'm looking for an app for something I will often download three or four competing apps, try them out, and choose one to keep.

    The semi-failures: It might be a game that I enjoy playing a few times but then get bored with.

    The non-failures: I may have downloaded an app for a one-time or short-term need. An example is a transit app for a city I am visiting. The app is just fine, but I no longer need it once I leave that city.

  46. Flashing ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flashing ads

    So much gratis desktop software survives without any ads. What the hell is with all of the free mobile apps having flashing ads?

  47. Re:90% of everything is crap (Sturgeon). Also, one by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    At a dollar or two per app, I might well get a few different apps to see which is the best. If a good app for doing X is worth $10 to me, then I can run through five at $2 each to find the best.

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    "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes