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Four Newly Discovered Elements Receive Names (theverge.com)

Press2ToContinue quotes a report from The Verge: The proposed names for recently discovered superheavy elements are: Nihonium and symbol Nh, for the element 113; Moscovium and symbol Mc, for the element 115; Tennessine and symbol Ts, for the element 117; Oganesson and symbol Og, for the element 118. This isn't finalized. Not sure I even like some of these, and maybe you feel the same way. Above are the proposed names that will substitute for the current placeholders (e.g., ununpentium, ununseptium). Nilhonium, Moscovium, and Tennesine are all named for places; Oganessen is named for the Russian physicist Yuri Oganessian. But we have until November to lobby for other names. Here's a chance to go down in history and name an element on the periodic table. How about naming one Elementy McElementface?

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  1. Elerium-115 by lcarnevale · · Score: 5, Funny

    Element 115 should be named Elerium, of course http://www.ufopaedia.org/index...

    1. Re:Elerium-115 by willworkforbeer · · Score: 2

      117: MasterChiefium?

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    2. Re:Elerium-115 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Um, they all do. All the way to the edge of the universe.

    3. Re:Elerium-115 by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      Probably a much higher proton number, since Elerium is used to produce anti-gravity, so the isotopes of Elerium probably contain anti-neutrons which reduce the atomic weight down to 115.
      90's video game pseudo science! Woo!

  2. Elements named after locations by Shinobi · · Score: 2

    Elements being named after locations is not exactly new, so I don't understand the submitters whining.

    Terbium, Holmium, Ytterbium, Erbium, Thulium, Lutetium, Hassium... The list goes on...

    1. Re:Elements named after locations by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe about the disproportionate share of tiny Swedish villages?

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  3. Americans will spell it Moscovum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Just so all the non-Americans can have something else to whinge about besides Aluminum.

    1. Re:Americans will spell it Moscovum by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm sorry, but "aluminium" is outright wrong.

      Humphry Davy, the man who isolated it, never called it that. He called it "aluminum" and "alumium". Never aluminium. The latter was suggested by an anonymous critic who said that he didn't like the sound of aluminum, that it didn't sound "classical" enough to him. Never mind that the classical elements were overwhelmingly -um, not -ium: ferrum, plumbum, argentum, stannum, cuprum, aurum, hydrargyrum, etc. The first element ending in -um added to the known elements since ancient times was platinum, also not a -ium. Also discovered before aluminum were molybdenum and tantalum.

      The reason that many elements started getting endings of -ium rather than just -um wasn't because "-ium was more classical" - it's because they were often named after the things they were isolated from which often had i near the end, making it a convenient joining stem - magnesium from magnesia, zirconium from zirconia, yttrium from yttria, and on and on. Some did it indirectly as well, such as beryllium, which was originally glucium (from glucina), but had the gluc- replaced with beryl to distinguish it from other sweet-compound-forming elements. If you want to use -i as the joining stem on aluminum, it should be called alumium - which is one of the names Davy suggested. It comes from alumina, not "aluminia".

      Call it alumium if you want (that would be a perfectly reasonable name), but your added, ahistorical syllable addition in "aluminium" will continue to grate on my ears. There's no such thing as "aluminia"

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    2. Re:Americans will spell it Moscovum by houghi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Got it. Alumni it is.

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    3. Re:Americans will spell it Moscovum by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      Great. Now when you've only got one atom/piece of it, nobody will know if they should call it alumn or alumnus.

    4. Re:Americans will spell it Moscovum by Rei · · Score: 2

      Which grouping of words is real?

      #1
      Alumina
      Aluminate
      Aluminosilicate
      Aluminothermic

      #2:
      Aluminia
      Aluminiate
      Aluminiosilicate
      Aluminiothermic

      In no way is the root of aluminum "alumini". It's either "alumin" or just "alum". Again, calling it "alumium" would be just fine. But "aluminium" is just wrong. And ahistorical.

      I know, it's weird to have a strong opinion about an issue like this...

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    5. Re:Americans will spell it Moscovum by Friggo · · Score: 2

      To nitpick a bit, Humphry Davy never isolated it, he tried, but didn't get there.
      According to the Wikipedia article the one credited with isolating aluminium was the German scientist Friedrich Wöhler in 1827.

    6. Re:Americans will spell it Moscovum by sysrammer · · Score: 2

      Careful, think about it. This is just what the Aluminati want you to think!

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  4. I can't be the only one wondering... by RevRagnarok · · Score: 4, Informative

    This article is tagged Japan because "Nihonium takes its name from the Japanese name for Japan and was the first new element discovered there, at the RIKEN lab." ( http://www.popsci.com/four-new... )

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  5. Periodic Videos by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Allow me to push one of my favorite YouTube channels to you. :)

    New Elements Named - Periodic Table of Videos :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  6. Re:Scientists have no sense of humor. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 2

    how cute, you think this has to do with science.
    Naming rights are a reflection of power and prestige.

    So. . . Element Privilege ??? /boggle

  7. FTFY by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

    How about naming one Elementy McElementfaceium?

    FTFY

  8. Re:That doesn't matter much by disposable60 · · Score: 4, Funny

    LEMMIUM! Where's Lemmium? The heaviest element possible.

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  9. Re:Scientists have no sense of humor. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You literally just repeated a joke that's in the summary.

    Jesus Fucking Christ. Never mind not RTFA, Slashdotter's don't even RTFS anymore!

  10. Daltonium by GrahamCox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And still no Daltonium. It's simply wrong that the scientist who first came up with the modern concept of what an element actually is (and which led to the periodic table itself) is ignored while far less known names get the honour.

    1. Re:Daltonium by Ecuador · · Score: 2

      Well, he does have an atomic mass unit named after him, not to mention 4 prominent characters in the best Franco-Belgian western comic book...

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  11. "Nilhonium"? by Rei · · Score: 2

    Come on, if you're going to insert letters the element's name, at least call it "Nihilonium" - an element that doesn't care whether anything continues to exist or not. ;)

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  12. Re:god no by quenda · · Score: 4, Funny

    They'll probably just get reclassified as dwarf elements one day.

  13. Re:god no by Sique · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is simply wrong. Many apparently greek words aren't of greek origin, but also the greek took over words from other languages. Case in point: the peach. The word comes from the old french word pesche (modern french: pêche), which comes from middle latin pesca, which in turn comes from classical latin persica, which originally was malus persicum, which derives from greek mêlon persikón, which in turn comes from the old persian word Parsuwash, which in turn was an Old Persian speaking tribe in the Iranian Highlands.

    Just because your own knowledge of a word ends with the greek origin doesn't mean that the word itself didn't enter the greek language itself as a foreign word.

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  14. Orangium by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I'm president, all new elements will be named after me and it will be tremendous. They will be classy, classy elements. Not loser elements like Nihonium.

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  15. Re:god no by michelcolman · · Score: 2

    Yes, I don't know what's wrong with names like ununseptium, at least you can remember them. It's not like people need catchy names for them when they use them in the kitchen. As far as I know, they only exist (briefly) because scientists like to go "hey, quick, come and look, I managed to make one with 117 protons!"

  16. Re:god no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well,...since the placeholder names start with "unun", how about:

    Unty McUntface.

    I can't see anything wrong with that.

  17. Europe is multilingual by tepples · · Score: 2

    In which of the European Union's 24 official languages at last count should a name for something discovered in Europe be meaningful? I think they choose Greek because it's the oldest European civilization to have become literate, with whose history Europeans speaking one of the other 23 languages are expected to be familiar.

  18. Re:Slashdotium by NotInHere · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, it decays into lower elements like Redditium. One of the forms this happens is the so called slashdot beta decay.

  19. Re:god no by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Relax. 99% of new element names are $town+ium. Even $researcher_name+ium fell out of use.

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  20. Re:god no by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 4, Interesting
    While there are exceptions, the general rule in English is that names should not be in use in the language already. The simplest way to achieve this is to use a word that belongs in another language - particularly if this provides some contextual guidance as to its meaning. Real or fake Greek words are associated with the concept of science.

    We associated the idea of descriptive names with other cultures, and do not call our daughters things like "cloud-flower" (although we do use Fern, Ivy, April, etc).

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  21. Re:That doesn't matter much by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    I thought that's Yourmomium.

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  22. Sherlockium by LeadSongDog · · Score: 2

    ... it's elementary!

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  23. Re:god no by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2

    Well had I followed this naming scheme my first one would have probably been named "cries but doesn't eat". The second one may have been named angry shitcannon though.

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