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The World's Oldest Computer May Have Predicted the Future (gizmodo.com)
Gizmodo reports: Discovered in an ancient shipwreck near Crete in 1901, the freakishly advanced Antikythera Mechanism has been called the world's first computer. A decades-long investigation into the 2,000 year-old-device is shedding new light onto this mysterious device... It wasn't programmable in the modern sense, but it's considered the world's first analog computer.
schwit1 shares a report from the Associated Press:: For over a century since its discovery in an ancient shipwreck, the exact function of the Antikythera Mechanism -- named after the southern Greek island off which it was found -- was a tantalizing puzzle.... After more than a decade's efforts using cutting-edge scanning equipment, an international team of scientists has now read about 3,500 characters of explanatory text -- a quarter of the original -- in the innards of the 2,100-year-old remains. They say it was a kind of philosopher's guide to the galaxy, and perhaps the world's oldest mechanical computer.
schwit1 shares a report from the Associated Press:: For over a century since its discovery in an ancient shipwreck, the exact function of the Antikythera Mechanism -- named after the southern Greek island off which it was found -- was a tantalizing puzzle.... After more than a decade's efforts using cutting-edge scanning equipment, an international team of scientists has now read about 3,500 characters of explanatory text -- a quarter of the original -- in the innards of the 2,100-year-old remains. They say it was a kind of philosopher's guide to the galaxy, and perhaps the world's oldest mechanical computer.
Remember the successes! Forget all the failures!
It's kind of pointless to write an article about an ancient Greek text that was found if you don't report what the text actually said.
Bonus points if you present a translation of the text, which neither article linked to actually does. (Most likely because the researchers aren't sure what the text actually says).
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.
the growth in cynicism and rebellion has not been without cause
So... 42?
The fragment says, "...in 2100 years, an Oompa Loompa with strangely tiny fingers will attempt to rise to power. Beware, since he has the mark of the Beast on his forehead, which you can't see because he's got this weird thing going on with his hair. His wife will be a nice piece of Slovenian ass though, so big ups for that."
You are welcome on my lawn.
This is a machine that simulated the movement of the planets and the moon using gears. The whole idea of this machine is to predict the phases of the moon and the location of the planets in the coming days.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
They were also the precursors to scientists because there are a number of them that didn't 'make stuff up', but rather observed and tried to understand why, and from that develop predictions to test. How do you think a philosopher back then identified that the Earth was spherical, much less calculate it's size to a far greater accuracy level than would be expected by someone who's distance data was based on someone pacing out the distances between cities? (If you say "aliens", there's an Coast to Coast collected episodes box coming your way filled with fish heads.) (Yes, that was a joke, I don't think the post office would let you send that.)
There are plenty of other examples of 'philosophers' doing lots of scientific discovery in all kinds of fields back then. You are mistaking modern philosophers who spend a lot of time lost in their own daydreams with the ancient greek philosophers that did the heavy and indepth thinking trying to figure things out way back then.
It's kind of like calling a guy who wears a cowboy hat and boots to the country music club a cowboy, and then trying to equate him to the 1800s cowboy that actually herded cattle for a living.
So can an abacus if you use it to do the calculation of when the sun will rise and since the abacus is 500 years older than this device surely it is the first analog computer which can predict the future.
and unless this computer predicted the rise of low-traffic clickbait, im not interested.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Go look it up on YouTube, btw. There is a wonderful Nova special about it there, and how multiple geniuses and two mobile versions of fantastically advanced scanners were created and shipped to it, rather than the other way around, due to its fragility.
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The World's Oldest Computer May Have Predicted the Future
Y'know, it would be nice the summary even remotely hinted at how this thing "predicted in the future."
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
If it's the one where a there's a guy who makes a cog with X[1] teeth by going "... yeah, well, Y is easy, so you just sort of space them apart a bit" and goes on to make one using a chisel it's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.
[1] Where X is a prime number and Y is a nearby very unprime number.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Without such a mechanism, astrological calculations were done by intelligent, educated people, white-collar workers so to speak. If machines like this took over this kind of work, such artificial intelligence would have probably destroyed the economy. Or maybe that theory has been proven wrong over the last several thousand years of machines becoming more sophisticated all the time.
What hypocrisy? Has PopeRatzo previously taken a stance vehemently against personal attacks and sexual objectification (for comedic and satirical purposes)?
Or, actually, did it occur to you that PopeRatzo might, in fact, be parodying Trump himself?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
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Are you really accusing me of "sexually objectifying" the woman who posed for this picture?
http://gq-images.condecdn.net/...
Because I'm pretty sure that once you've posed for a "men's magazine" handcuffed to a bedpost in nothing but heels and jewelry, you're way past the point of having someone else "sexually objectify" you. Yeah, showing off your pootenanny in a stroke book is pretty much the ne plus ultra of being a sexual object. And that's one of the least NSFW photos from that "spread".
You are welcome on my lawn.
Nothing so advanced could have been the "first" thing of its kind. Think about it. If I told you to make a bronze wheel 140mm in diameter with 233 perfectly spaced teeth, would you know how to do it? With tools that were available in 200 BC Greece?
No there is must have been an at least decades-old tradition of instrument-making leading up to the design and execution of the Antikythera Mechanism, stuff like armillary spheres and quadrants and such. At some point they must have made simpler instruments that maybe could use wheels coupled by friction, and from there the very notion of toothed gears (which we take for granted) could be invented.
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those are some of the nicest things I have heard about trump this week, obiously he is a supporter of trump and you sir or madam are just a fucking retard
No way...
It's an astronomical clock. It charted the movements of the moon and planets and predicted eclipses.
Calling it a "computer" is a bit of a stretch.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
I'm sure a patent troll is filing papers in the eastern district of Texas as I type this.
When this show was on PBS a retired mechanical engineer created one of the cogs for the machine in about 5 minutes with hand tools. He also had a model of the machine already built.
The astronomical knowledge and mathematics that went into the machine are FAR more impressive than the mechanism itself.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Post of the day.
I'd mod you up if at least one of your links wasn't to youtube.
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Looking at that photo spread, I'm pretty sure she's already exposed just about everything.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Clearly it was brought and left by aliens... I'm pretty sure The History Channel told me so, and you know, it's The History Channel, they're like TOTALLY about being accurate n' stuff...
'The unexamined life is not worth living' - Socrates
> destroys too many people's jobs in the name of corporate profits (i.e., the rich getting richer) and/or causes people to be dumber and less skilled in their own survival, then it's not a Good Thing at all.
It was feared that if machines did the math, we'd all become "dumber", unable to do math because the machines would do it. Before that, scribes lost their jobs to the printing press. We'll see indeed, just as we have been seeing for the last thousand years or so.
Well worth watching :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q124C7W0WYA
There's a bit of difference between using pictures a person had taken voluntarily for sexual gratification and actually objectifying the person themselves.
Or, in another way of putting it, just because someone posed for explicit pictures does not mean that's the sum total of their value as a person, which is what "sexual objectification" is usually taken to mean - they aren't a person, but an object that has no value other than to be used for sexual gratification.
Given what I've read from you in the past, I'm pretty sure you'd agree she's still a human being, even if she is married to a walking bottle of spray tan with a shitty hairpiece.
Since I can't tell them apart, I treat all ACs as the same person.
She is absolutely a human being. A HBILF, in fact.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It was not a clock, because it had no timekeeping mechanism, no balance wheel or spring or pendulum.
You would set the date and time desired, and it would show the positions of objects in the sky. Lots of objects!
It is a specialized computer with "program in masked rom", not generalized. You could call it a calculator, but it is considerebly more complex than that.
Some philosophers liked to figure things out. Some still do.
However, natural philosophy got a new name, "science", and gradually started to be seen as something different from philosophy per se. People who are interested in natural philosophy and other forms do still exist, but they're considered to be in both philosophy and science as opposed to just being philosophers.
In your analogy, it would be as if modern people who work with herds of cattle were called "cattle technicians" instead of "cowboys".
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
I'm not actually used to sexual objectification, and I really am not well suited to the role of sex object, but I am used to software developer objectification. There are people who have cared little about me as a person, but only about me as a software guy. I'm fine with that as long as I get paid well enough in whatever it is that I want.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes