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FBI Director Comey: 'Highly Confident' Orlando Shooter Radicalized Through Internet (cbsnews.com)
An anonymous reader writes from a report via CBS News: FBI Director James Comey echoed President Obama's statement that he does not think the Orlando shooting was a plot directed from outside of the U.S. "So far, we see no indication that this was a plot directed from outside the United States and we see no indication that he was part of any kind of network," Comey told reporters. The intelligence community, Comey said, is "highly confident that this killer was radicalized at least in part through the internet." CBS News reports: "The FBI first became aware of the shooter, Omar Mateen, in May 2013 when he was working as a contract security guard and he made statements that were 'inflammatory and contradictory,' Comey said. Mateen told his co-workers at the time that he had family connections to al Qaeda and that he was a member of Hezbollah. Comey pointed out that Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, is a 'bitter enemy' of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) to which he pledged loyalty in 911 calls as the attack unfolded early Sunday morning." According to CNN, at least 50 people were killed inside Pulse, a gay nightclub, marking the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
Slashdot poster "Fuzzyfuzzyfungus" highly confident that FBI director Jame Comey doesn't appear to know a goddamn thing about the guy his agency investigated at least twice; but knows to blame the 'internet' thing that damn kids are always getting terrorist propaganda and strong encryption from.
And yet it remains that Islam is way the most prominent ideology behind this kind of thing.
And I think it should be mentioned that the people most often victimized by Islamic terrorists are their fellow Muslims.
Right. So? This has precisely zero bearing on the question of whether Islam as a religion is a factor in Islamic terrorism.
Or were you somehow trying to tell turkeydance not to demonise Muslims (which they never did anyway)?
The shooter's old man sounds like a peach, a supporter of the Taliban who basically said, "I never taught my son to kill homosexuals", but then goes on to explain how God will punish them. One can imagine a man from a backwards culture who schooled his son in what to hate, and the son simply took it to the next level. After all, once someone has decided that God's gonna need to start killing some blasphemers, it's not that hard to decide that maybe God needs a helping hand, or in this case, an AR-15.
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Wow. Ridiculous. Ignore the fact that there are Muslim nations that execute homosexuals. The religion itself is extremely homophobic. Ignore the rhetoric the radicals of the region spew out every day online. Then you somehow think radio "talents" in the United States are the radical ones. WOW. Just WOW.
Even without the Internet, this guy could've simply attended a talk by an imam:
(This sort of bigoted hatred is Ok, but arguing that sayers of such stuff should be carefully watched would get you banned from Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit.)
At least, he is not blaming an anti-Islam movie by some weirdo...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
I spent some time on a traditionalist Catholic forum, and there's nothing the father of the shooter said that hasn't been said by many Catholic posters on that site. Most of those posters were clearly fluent English speakers, so I'm assuming they were American, Canadian, British, Irish and Australian, so we're talking residents of the First World, and they often had the same view. "Oh sure, you shouldn't attack homosexuals, but you know, they're going to pay for their unnatural acts!"
In fact, in certain religious communities, like traditionalist Catholicism, Evangelical Christianity (and related groups like the Pentecostals, Seventh Day Adventists, and the like), and in conservative Islam, there's an incredible obsession with homosexuality. Some of it may come from Judaeo-Christianity's roots, the Old Testament made it pretty clear homosexuals are to be executed, and even ol' St. Paul made it clear in the New Testament that homosexuals were part of a special group of really bad sinners. And this was passed on to Islam well, but all clearly linked back to the Mosaic laws prohibiting homosexual acts.
You should spend some time on these sites, to get a window into the kind of mind that believes there's an infinite omnipotent being that apparently obsesses about what is done with our genitals, and has a special place in Hell for those that insert them in the wrong place, or who pick a life partner that doesn't fit the narrow view. While Omar Mateen may be at the harsh end of the spectrum, before people pat themselves on the back for being so very secular and advanced, state-level sodomy laws were only finally thrown out in the US in 2003, and major religious organizations like the Catholic and Mormon Churches fought tooth and nail to prevent gay marriage, so while none of them advocated the murder of gays (well, most did it, there were some social conservative types who certainly want to make it illegal again), they were doing everything in their power to deprive homosexuals of full constitutional and legal rights.
I think a number of churches and religious sects really need to do some soul searching. This bizarre, almost fetishistic need to constantly rail against the LGBT community, to invoke conspiracies like the "Gay agenda", to constantly promote fear and, yes, hatred, needs to be confronted.
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Jesus fucking Christ. It was a gay nightclub targeted by a guy who even his father admits had recently become incredibly outraged by the sight of two gay men kissing.
Why is it that certain people are so fucking keen to trying to minimize the anti-LGBT aspects of this crime. It's almost as if they want to be about Islam, or perhaps no matter what it's about, it shouldn't be about homosexuals.
As I say elsewhere, would you complain that the media talked about the attack on a *black* church in Charleston? Do you think that's inappropriate?
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Countries where people don't have such free access to the Internet don't have these kinds of incidents.
Time for to enact controls on this dangerous assault medium.
No one really needs access to that much Internet.
What's up with these web nuts and their weird pastimes anyway?
Isn't it worth it if we can save just one life?
Our cities are bathed in blood and these Internet companies are profiting from it.
The First Amendment mentioned freedom of "the press". There are no printing presses used to make the Internet.
We just want to register and track Internet users.
And subject them to background checks before they can go online.
And prevent them from using dangerous tools like "encryption" to hide their usage.
We've got to close the WiFi loophole that lets people access the Internet without a background check.
Who could argue with these common sense measures?
If you don't agree with this, you have blood on your hands.
Jesus specifically said he was not replacing the old laws. Not a jot or a tiddle. So you have to add in there the bits about not eating shellfish, wearing mixed thread garments and homosexuality. You have to add in the parts condoning slavery. Not even the New Testament speaks against slavery, it only tells you how you should treat your slaves.
It's only in the New Testament that the idea of an eternity of hell for not believing is introduced. Is this moral? NO! It it not. "Love me or burn forever" is not a moral teaching.
Feel free to only cherry pick the acceptable messages in the Bible, but don't pretend the other commands and laws are not there. You are commanded to kill your neighbour for working on the sabbath? Do you? Of course not, because your morality is better than that in the Bible.
Christianity if nothing like Buddhism. The teachings of Christianity as evidenced in the Bible *are* barbaric. Slavery. Torture. Stonings. The subjugation of women. "No thought for the morrow" is a ridiculous notion.
Don't paint Christianity as being a benign and loving belief system. It isn't, and it never was. If you think it is then it shows you have not read the Bible or you are so selective in the parts you follow as to make you guilty of not doing the things it commands you to do.
Am I anti-religion? Damn right I am, and the recent tragedy reveals one of the reasons why.
Radical Islam is a problem. People that justify the worst barbarism in the name of some ideology are a problem and Radical Islam does this. Sure, they aren't the only nutcases around but they're by far the biggest group and they have a huge fan base that cheers them on. Until people stop pussy footing around the subject we will never deal with it. I pretty much despise the gay culture. Not gays themselves but the culture that you get when they congregate. That said, I just avoid them. It would never occur to me to kill them or even to wish them dead. I am appalled at what happened in Orlando and feel bad for these people's families. I'd never wish this kind of shit on anyone. Some so called Christians think it's okay to persecute and kill gay people but I and the vast majority of Christians reject and repudiate that view. God says to love everyone and that only HE is the judge. Then we get to Islam which has a more aggressive anti-gay policy. It's stoning in their own land and open season everywhere else. I know most of the Islamic people in the US aren't radical but a lot of them are, way too many. Depressingly it seems to be the younger ones who don't remember how shitty it was under Sharia in the old country because their parents fled that insanity. It seems the young Islamic generation has decided to rebel against their elders by becoming just as insane as the people the older generation fled from. I don't know if anything can stop a war but importing more Islamic fundamentalists to the US will certainly increase the chances greatly. I know that the more this type of thing in Orlando happens here it's only a matter of time before people get fed up and retaliate. It's all too likely it'll be against a Mosque or some such place.
FBI spews USUAL fabricated BULLSHIT as "highly confident" "intelligence".
Deeply conflicted individual, drank alcohol. Couldn't recite prayers. Not Muslim to speak of.
The fact is, there is more documentary evidence of his connection with the NYPD than there is for ISIS! LOL.
https://t.co/5OcOKyBMe4
Guess what? NYPD thought he was... GAY!
The Pulse is a place this sad young man was found to visit FOR THREE years! The staff knew him as a semi-regular.
http://m.palmbeachpost.com/new...
He had a Grindr account. He was closeted and took it out on his wife. He hated other gay people that were happy. That's why he killed them. He was miserable on the inside
Yeah, but "ISIS!"
But you'll fall for anything, won't you? So you get this bullshit: "Clinton calls for escalated violence in Iraq and Syria in wake of Orlando attack"
https://t.co/pKBUY6BGv4
That's why it's called brainwashing. You can't even evaluate this contrary evidence. On one hand all defamatory about "big government", until that government is the FBI, telling you your ugly hatred and provincial phobias are valid. Then it's "high confidence".
The only hope for this world is the rapid disintegration and collapse of the United States into a hopeless and internally preoccupied failed state. You can't save a bag of tools this stupid.
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