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Russian Government Hackers Penetrated DNC, Stole Opposition Research On Donald Trump (washingtonpost.com)
Russian government hackers penetrated Democratic National Committee's database and stole research on Donald Trump (could be paywalled; alternate source), according to a report on Washington Post. DNC officials and security experts say the hackers were able to read all e-mail and chats in the DNC system. Some of the hackers had been in the DNC system for a year, the report adds. They were expelled from the computer system this past weekend. Russian spies also targeted the computers of Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and several GOP political action committees. From the report: The intrusions are an example of Russia's interest in the U.S. political system and its desire to understand the policies, strengths and weaknesses of a potential future president -- much as American spies gather similar information on foreign candidates and leaders. The depth of the penetration reflects the skill and determination of the United States' top cyber adversary as Russia goes after strategic targets, from the White House and State Department to political campaign organizations.
Also, the DNC are a bunch of clowns. They're not a government agency and have to buy their IT security and it sure sounds like they went with the lowest bidder.
I heard the DNC used the same impenetrable firewall on their server than SecState Hillary used. Locked bathroom door and everything!
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
(insert Soviet Russia meme here)
Opposition research trumps you?
Dark Reflection
firewall around his servers.
As far as I am aware only the united states admits to cyber espionage.
Russian spies also targeted the computers of [...] Hillary Clinton
Certainly if there was incriminating evidence of something diabolical in her email server, the Russians would have found it, would they not have? Why would they wait to release it?
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
in the toaster oven
And once all 2.3 million outstanding ballots are counted in California (yes, as of today), you'll realize how wise that was.
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. . . .they already have all they need on Clinton, from her email server. . . .
The fact that they're looking for dirt on Trump, suggests that they think he might well be elected. . .
DNC server was allowed, and no laws were broken.
There is no evidence Russians indeed hacked into the server.
Any evidence that is available, can be easily falsified.
And how exactly did they they penetrated? There were people working in DNC almost around the clock and no body, I repeat, nobody saw any of the attempts to penetrate.
Also, those who claim inappropriate penetration, are of questionable character and should not be believed.
Bernie was the first to "compromise" data on DNC servers. Did we already forget just how bad some of the DNC data is protected?
https://medium.com/@AmyKDacey/...
are worth more than lump sum hush money.
I'm sure the US (tries to) bust into the Russian political stuff also.
Table-ized A.I.
Russia has no sense of conquest right now. It is all the US/EU spies strong-arming corporations like Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, etc. All your shit is spyware and it's not Russian spyware.
Think harder. You're really going to give credence to a Jewish Washington Post with loyalties to a country that lives under a force field. (Iron Dome).
What next? Can you grasp facts at all? How about oh, I don't know, maybe there is no need to hack a country that is already infiltrated by foreigners - while letting foreign immigrants flood the country? The FBI has an unprecedented amount of moles. Literally anything important goes straight to China AND Russia. Immediately.
Slashdot where comments matter and the stories are bullshit.
Quote Trump directly.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Hardly. DNC is not going to keep any dirt they have on Trump past the election, the intent is to use it before.
The only reason the Russian would want it is to mount a counter against it.
Why they would support Trump I don't know, perhaps they want to deal with him? A favor during the election to be returned after the election.
It doesn't suggest that at all. It would be pretty stupid for Russia not to look into the major political contenders of their primary adversary regardless whether they might win or not.
The Russians look at national economic ascendancy like a zero sum game (that's why Russians are so poor).
... sigh ... Trump (like Putin, Obama, and Hillary) is an economic protectionist.
They think that if we get pushovers like Obama (who told Putin he was one reelection away from giving him everything Putin wanted) in office that the US will do worse and Russia will do better.
Russia and the US could actually succeed together if they relaxed commercial barriers. Increased trade rewards value-adds at every stage and more people can compete to fulfill demand (i.e. more jobs).
To me it makes no sense to punch a guy in the stomach and then think my life is going to be better since it is better relative to someone else. But that's how these guys think.
But
Welp, just gotta EXTRAORDINARILY RENDER them, so you can lock'em up. It's the law!
So, they had access for how long? A year? I don't suppose there's *any* chance that the open access that Bernie's folks looked at - one of the first reports I read, never repeated, was the guy in charge of the 4-person team had them look, to see if Hillary had gotten *their* info.
And then the DNC "cleaned up"?
I now believe *nothing* the DNC says about its computer systems, or security, since if they'd *actually* cleaned up... they would have caught the Russians *then*, not the beginning of May.
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After pouring through the data, all they found was a bunch of words. But they were really great. Really, the BEST words! And the BIGGEST words! And the other words in there about Hillary were really pretty pathetic. Very pathetic. It's sad, really.
God's chosen people who happen to be anti-Christian live under a force field??! What?!
Bad day to be a Jew.
The stolen file reads: "Trump is an arrogant classless bigoted blowhard who often changes his position and rarely offers specifics. Thus, he's a lot like Putin."
Table-ized A.I.
Credit to the DNC and Big Media for spinning this so well. Putin only got got his hands on Trump research.... Nothing on Hillary.
What a load.
Trump might give up antagonizing the Russians by trying to get its neighbors to join NATO, and then putting missiles on its doorstep in order to neutralize it. Clinton, being the tool of neocons, will push even harder to subvert the governments of the countries bordering Russia, risking world war. The US didn't stand for it during the Cuban crisis (even though they triggered it by putting missiles in Turkey and Italy), the Russians won't stand for it now.
ZOMG! Now the Russians know that Trump is racist, sexist, homophobic and Islamophobic. He wants to throw grandma out of the hospital to die on the street, or off a cliff, depending on the topic. At night he hands out fully automatic, laser guided "Assault Guns" with extra-lethal plastic parts to inner city toddlers and mentally unstable Democrats. In his spare time, he is the leader of a secret society of racists known as "the Police" that meets daily to discuss new ways to murder and/or frame innocent black children on their way to church.
Seriously guys, the DNC's "opposition research" is chiseled in stone, and not exactly secret. They just swap out the name at the top.
See that "Preview" button?
... everybody.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
It would be pretty stupid for Russia not to look into the major political contenders of their primary adversary regardless whether they might win or not.
It's pretty damned stupid that Russia thinks of the United States (or more accurately, NATO and the West) as their "primary adversary" when they have a near negative birthrate and 1.3 billion neighbors to the east that are far more likely to come looking for Lebensraum.
I understand the historical reasons for Russia to fear the West -- multiple invasions in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries -- but it's 2016; are the people in Moscow really that stuck in the past? To look at the fat and happy citizens of the West and see an existential threat? I don't think the generation that demands "safe zones" from "microaggressions" is terribly likely to launch Operation Barbarossa II.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
on Donald Trump is what we used to call a "tape recorder."
Ok, you confused me- are you spouting some wackadoodle Jewish conspiracy theory, some wackadoodle Russian conspiracy theory, some wackadoodle Chinese conspiracy theory, or are you going for the wackadoodle trifecta here?
The silver lining is that the DNC may actually be worth penetrating! If the GRU thinks there may be something valuable in there then maybe the DNC actually does something of value.
How did this get to be a Trump story? Or a story at all for that matter.
You would think that the Russians would administer our political parties' servers a bit better maybe, but it isn't really their job.
Exactly. Plus Hillary might launch a nuclear war if the money is right.
At least they have no love for muslims. In that vein we should be cooperative. Unlike us, they have zero issues with dropping bombs on muslim cities, something the US had the will to do in WWII but lost it during Vietnam. Now, the milquetoasts that run the country and military don't or won't kill. We use drones, which require more accuracy, better intelligence (which is rarely perfect). I'm for leveling the cities. Less people to fight later on, immediate gratification, instant intelligence on damage assessments, all around better. The West has grown weak. Islam is taking the long view. The are slowly but surely moving here and getting onto school boards, on police departments, positions of power where they don't belong. This is a Western nation with western Judeo-Christian values. Even if people are not Christian, they benefit from the J-C value system of life, freedom, you name it.
Sadly, and stupidly, in the US we have this:
John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia.
Obama's top adviser, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live.
Hillary Clinton's top adviser, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are still involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt!
Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim.
Homeland Security Adviser, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim.
Obama adviser and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim.
Obama's Islamic/Sharia advisor, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim.
Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim.
Rep Andre Carson, D-Ind, a Muslim , the first Muslim lawmaker on the House of Representatives and on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
I think that Trump himself is still trying to figure out what his foreign policies will be!
Please let the American people know if you figure anything out!
Die slow and very painfully, soon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden
If you can't see the actual network of subterfuge right now maybe you should Seppuku yourself with honor.
Did you conspire to make up a word today called "wackadoodle"? No, you are just stupid enough to die in your ignorance.
They weren't hacked. Those volunteer idiots at the DNC handed it over willingly.
Not against Russia, but certainly against Iran.
They only stole just the Trump opposition information. Nothing else right? lmao
Surprised that the Chinese didn't lock down their DNC espionage better in order to keep the drunk Russians out.
A lot of noise is made about foreigners buying influence (over US legislators and executives), but we don't hear much about blackmail. Which might mean that it's been very successful. If Wikileaks can find stuff in emails to get people in trouble, certainly the Russians can find stuff in emails with which to blackmail. The beauty of blackmail is that it's the gift that keeps on giving. The more you succumb to it, the more grip the blackmailer has over you.
It screws over Bernie Sanders!
there is no evidence, just wild accusations used to fuel the hatred for Russia (and China, and to some extent India). It's well-known, thanks to Snowden, that the U.S conducts its own attacks on foreign governments and industries from compromised computers all over the world, and if Russia or China were doing the same thing, you could never tie them directly to any breach. These accusations are propaganda, period.
Hackers broke into the DNC to steal information about their opponent and not their candidate. Now thats some straight up spin. They stole everything that was there but I can guarantee you that they were far more interested in the internal info they had on the DNC candidate. BTW just because the logged-ip addressed point to Russian ip-blocks it doesn't mean that this was done by direction of the Russian government or even that the attack originated in Russia. Using compromised machines under the hackers controll as proxy servers to carry attacks on a 3d party is standard practice. Using machines in countries that are generally considered rivals and are unlikely to cooperate with U.S authorities in an investigation, makes a heck-of-a-lot of sense
Do a little reading and you'll find that the Chinese are busy stealing all of our technology and preparing themselves to take out our infrastructure (power-grid, banking, etc.). On the other front the Russians are actively engaging in political sabotage via all means from hordes of message forum trolls to active hacking. Don't think that the upcoming "Brexit" vote isn't being watched with great interest, and actively promoted by the Russians. I remember a few years ago Putin predicting that we'd be in a civil war here in the states by about now. Don't think for a moment that he doesn't have a bunch of shills working the interwebs for Russian interests in fomenting unrest and discontent right here and now.
Neocons have been strongly implying that Trump is being supported by Putin.
See Is Trump a Sleeper Agent for Moscow? :0
Ok, maybe actually doing more than implying
The neocons have also claimed that Russia has a "troll army" working to support Trump across social media, particularly Twitter and Facebook:
This latest story is a another piece of the narrative that the neocons have been constructing about Russia influencing the US election in favor of Trump. The next piece will probably involve finding this "stolen" so-called DNC opposition research on a Trump's staffer computer or campaign server thus proving that Putin is aiding Trump to defeat Clinton. Watch for it.
> maybe you should Seppuku yourself
Dude, let's keep it PG-13 here!
The fact that they're looking for dirt on Trump, suggests that they think he might well be elected. . .
Well duh, he is the presumptive candidate of one of the two dominant US political parties. His chances of becoming president of the US for the next 4 years are currently better than every other human on the planet except one (by some variable margin). ....uhhboy....
Your stupidity is painful to observe, even from a distance. And of course you didn't even answer the question- was the sentence too long for your attention span?
Go back to your Trump rally loser (is that redundant?).
If you are unfamiliar with the word "wackadoodle" maybe you should ask those who know you best, they'll probably just point back at you. Or just let Google be your friend (probably your only one).
> How did this get to be a Trump story?
Everything is a Trump story. Obama gave a speech earlier where he said nothing about Trump, so CNN was like "...but he *meant* Trump". Trump is now conspicuous when absent in any story.
I'm amused that the Russians stole the Democrat's stop_america_from_being_great_again.docx or whatever, but the fact that the story has to put Trump in the headline to spice up a story about foreign spies hacking one of the two major parties in order to get people to click on it tells you all you need to know about how the election will go down.
Omar Mateen was a registered Democrat
| Why they would support Trump I don't know,
It's literally part of the old KGB playbook. Because POTUS Trump would cause friction between US and European NATO allies. Hurting US/Europe alliances is considered a benefit to Russia.
It might make her less mean, spiteful, sociopathic, and corrupt.
captcha was 'grossed'
Trump is extremely popular in Russia. Everyone is rooting for him over there- both the government and ordinary citizens. They were probably gathering the stuff to hand over to him.
The real puzzle here is, why does Hillary or anyone else need to do "opposition research" on Trump? He does it for you every time he opens his mouth.
Trump is not a Putin supporter... he just said that Putin is a strong leader. You can say that a guy is a strong leader and even say that his people seem to support him without automatically endorsing everything about the guy.
I know Trump's political opponents (both dems and reps) are a bit desperate but this whole "Trump supports Putin" talkingpoint is just silly and blatantly dishonest.
Besides, that attack on Trump was tried (and failed) in primary system.
Does Putin want to try to help Hilary or Trump?
He knows what Hilary knows about Trump. That means he can look at her actions vs. information and evaluate them.
From this I infer that he plans to help her, and use this to base his negotiations and strategic actions. Her actions in the next 6 months will inform his actions in the next 2-4 years.
I wonder if this qualifies as a national security issue.
He thinks her Intel is informative.
He can look both at the Intel and the candidate strategies to generate a cookbook of her approaches and detect both themes and departures from those themes.
He can also share some of it with allies to influence negotiations.
Interesting game.
I think we should let all politicians have their own personal email server.
At this point, what difference does it make?
Russia doesn't fear the West. Putin just wants somebody to be the bad guy - and we do that splendidly. We're much less likely than Islam (in it's various incantations) to come back and bite. It also gives him an excuse to work on the military - something that's good for his hold on power and for his cronies pocket books.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
I noticed they collected "Research" on Donald Trump and not intelligence.
Yes. We don't want the little one to start whacking his doodle.
Something posters here seem to be missing. This didn't happen last week, it happened almost a year ago. So whatever they wanted to do with the dirt they found out about Trump, they've had it for over a year.
Trump has been making oddly fanboyish statements about Putin for the last year. It *could* be that he honestly is a fan of that one mid-Eurasian dictator out of all the others like him out there. But the timing opens up other interesting possibilities.
Trump has also conspicuously refused to release his tax returns, unlike just about every major party nominee since tax returns started.
It would certainly be interesting if a foreign intelligence service managed to get themselves a major party nominee in their pocket. If I was on the Secret Service detail for Clinton, I'd start screening for polonium in addition to guns.
I moisten when you talk so tough. Maybe a spanking later? Please daddy!
Oh please. You moisten whenever you hear the word "Trump". It must be very awkward playing card games with you.
What if the Russians find out he's a racist, uninformed narcissistic orange bloviating dickhead? We need to protect that information!
A lifetime ago Nixon did this and was impeached. The "average citizen" was outraged.
Today it is done, by a foreign government no less, and there is no outrage.
This clearly clearly shows that the fundamental character of the nation has undergone a radical change.
There is Nothing Hillary can say or do will sway Trump Supporters period. There is Nothing Trump can say or do will sway Clinton Supporters period. I don't think either can win with just their supporters so the fight is going to be over the undecided and keeping the "Lean toward one due to the lesser of two evils" leaning the right way and to lesser getting the Bernistas to fall in line.
Getting the leaning towards and undecided is the sweet spot, that's why in every election the true dyed-in-the-wool supporters feel betrayed.
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