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AMC Threatens Copyright Lawsuit Over Walking Dead Spoiler (torrentfreak.com)
AMC has threatened the people behind The Spoiling Dead community with a lawsuit, asking them to not reveal who gets killed in the last episode of The Walking Dead's ongoing series. The Spoiling Dead community, which has over 350,000 followers on Facebook, obtains all the latest information about the hit show -- some of which are not public, and discusses it within their community. "After two years, AMC finally reached out to us! But it wasn't a request not to post any info about the Lucille Victim or any type of friendly attempt at compromise, it was a cease and desist and a threat of a lawsuit by AMC Holdings, LLC's attorney, Dennis Wilson. They say we can't make any type of prediction about the Lucille Victim," Spoiling Dead team wrote. TorrentFreak reports: AMC's claim that any spoilers will amount to copyright infringement are somewhat eyebrow raising but according to the company this ground has been covered before. "The release of plot summaries and particularly the types of crucial plot elements that you have stated you intend to release, have been found to constitute copyright infringement. Specifically, in Twin Peaks Productions vs. Publications International, the Court ruled that publishing a work that 'recount[s] for its readers precisely the plot details' of a fictional work constitutes copyright infringement."
i wouldn't know that its leaked, adn wouldn't be on my way to find it now to ruin reddit/imgur/tumbler/facebook/twitter for everyone
oh well
I will never understand this. "They love our work, lets alienate the ever-loving shit out of them!" Really, it's always a brilliant move folks.
The butler with the rug beater died.
If anybody has been watching this series, I think most would agree that it has run its course already. I mean, how many episodes do you want to watch them killing zombies and trying to keep them at bay? Let's face it, the people in the series aren't very bright, because if I was living in the south of the USA when this occurred, then I would say that it's quite logical to head for the coast and get out to an island seeing as how zombies haven't mastered the breaststroke or freestyle techniques. There are many small islands in the gulf coast area. They seemingly have cars and fuel for everything else in the series, so why not go get on an island? I liked this series a lot in the beginning, but as it wore on, I have myself bored with it. Honestly, I never even finished the most recent season simply because it's just repetitive with nothing more innovative and exciting in the last couple seasons. Just my 2 cents.
Character A is going to Die.
Character B is going to Die.
Character C is going to Die.
Character D is going to Die.
Character E is going to Die.
Receive lawsuit saying "Character D is going to die" is copyright violation. Ok. Now we know what will happen.
I'm ambivalent about spoilers myself, just knowing who it is doesn't equal seeing it play out with the acting, effects, etc. Sometimes I'm glad not to know, sometimes I wish I didn't know a spoiler, sometimes I love knowing.
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Seriously. Stop with the cheap fakeout and cliffhangers. Quality writing over cheap gimmicks.
According to Stanford's Copyright and Fair Use summary (http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/cases/) that Twin Peaks case might not be the precedent they say it is.
Not a fair use. A company published a book entitled Welcome to Twin Peaks: A Complete Guide to Who’s Who and What’s What, containing direct quotations and paraphrases from the television show Twin Peaks, as well as detailed descriptions of plots, characters, and setting. Important factors: The amount of the material taken was substantial and the publication adversely affected the potential market for authorized books about the program. (Twin Peaks v. Publications Int’l, Ltd., 996 F.2d 1366 (2d Cir. 1993).)
(emphasis added)
I like the show, but then, I liked Breaking Bad too and still stopped in the middle, for no particular reason. I don't need reasons to stop watching a show, but if the thought crosses my mind, this'll be one.
Stop suing fans.
Idiots.
Someone had to do it.
This is straight up legal bullying and the backlash will be painful.
" Court ruled that publishing a work that 'recount[s] for its readers precisely the plot details' of a fictional work constitutes copyright infringement.""
Saying "Joe Blow died." does not reach the "precisely" level.
I stopped watching after the 2nd season, so I'm not sure but aren't they still loosely following the comic book plots? If so, how can they prevent people from talking about potential plots for work already released?
Does the law actually prevent people from discussing potential plots for shows? Can websites really be sued for people trying to figure out who the Emperor is in StarWars, and if Luke is really the father of Rey?
Or are they receiving the C&D because they are supposedly getting ahold of and releasing official plot writings? I *might* be okay with that. But surely the law isn't saying fans can't discuss among themselves and unofficially work out potential plotlines?
Just don't post the information as 'fact', simply use the term 'allegedly' as in "I have heard rumours that in the final episode so-and-so allegedly dies' etc. 'In an allegedly very gruesome manner that may or may involve being eaten by a zombie'.
Heck, I don't know. I don't watch the show & would just prefer this whole 'zombie craze' would die off.
Create a group on Telegram (russian) and threema (swiss)... Let's see the fuckers threaten them...
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It's Glenn! It's so Glenn! You know it's Glenn!
I don't actually know, but come on... you know it's Glenn.
I guess Cliff Notes are off the table, too.
If they want to keep it a secret who dies, then they should start "leaking" fake spoilers, and then just sit back and say nothing. As a bonus, it probably would cost less to create those fake spoilers, than it would to actually go through with a lawsuit.
send AMC lots and lots of money and watch the show with your mouth open and slobber dripping off your lips as you get surprised like you're supposed to so you keep watching and sending them more money. and don't forget to play the games and buy the trinkets
They say we can't make any type of prediction about the Lucille Victim
The last Talking Dead before the break implied otherwise. They flat-out said that they had dropped hints throughout the episode on who dies. You don't fucking say something like that, and then expect fans to NOT speculate on who dies.
No matter how many Japanese soldiers, headhunters, astronauts and Harlem Globetrotters land on that island, Gilligan, the Skipper too, the millionaire and his wife, the movie star, and the rest are never getting off that fucking island.
PS it's Glenn
Somebody had to take one for the team, and he's damn sure going to make sure it's not Maggie and their babby.
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Don't all they hafta do is preface every spoiler with: "Ya know what I think's gonna happen....." ?
Is it Jeff? I hope it's Jeff. No-one likes Jeff.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Did they sign an NDA??? No? Then they aren't doing anything wrong by publish plot details that they never agreed to keep private in the first place.
Although giving the matter the further thought, maybe AMC is just trying to use the publicity of this lawsuit to generate more interest in their show.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Bad news for Wikipedia, Wookiepedia and all the other 'pedias.
I guess everyone who had been requested to do a book report for any book which is not in the Public Domain will be in violation of copyright by this logic.
This is the same for anything which discusses the plot of any ongoing non-public domain fiction.
Walking Dead got boring three seasons in and don't even enjoy watching it anymore. With Colony, The Expanse, Killjoys and many other sci-fi coming back in full force zombie drama is done.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
now gimme my 15 min of fame.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Why is AMC not suing Wikipedia? If you read Wikipedia on the character Negan, what happens at the end of the season is spelled out in plain english.
In fact one would be puzzled why AMC is not suing Robert Kirkman for spoiling the death we are talking about in the comic books before the show.
The argument that AMC is making here is idiotic and pointless and it is clearly nothing more than a money grab.
You can't copyright a plot. You can only copyright your expression of it, eg: the script you wrote or the TV show you're producing.
You can't stop anyone from creating their own versions of the plot.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160613/01084434693/pure-bullshit-amc-threatens-huge-fan-community-with-copyright-claim-over-spoiler-predictions.shtml
It would be great if the EFF got involved so The Spoiling Dead could take AMC to court. And IMHO this would be worth the EFF's time and money. Somebody needs to keep (re-)drawing the line between legitimate copyright claims, and spurious ownership claims made by corporations that piss on everything in sight like some not-house-broken dog in their efforts to mark it all as their own. Under the current civil law setup, average citizens simply can't afford to defend their own rights against bullies such as AMC.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Their argument citing that case is pretty weak. In that case, Publisher's International published a book about the TV show Twin Peaks, after the show came out. A very in-depth book citing plots, actors, dialogue, etc. Although Publisher's International didn't have copies of the script, they did copy basically the TV show after it came out. In this case it would be very hard to prove that the website had any such access, especially since the Walking Dead show has not come out yet. They probably haven't even registered their copyright. Plus it is obviously commentary on the show. However these days the one with the deepest pocket wins in court, sadly.
-Matt
People watch the walking dead? Here are your spoilers for the last episode:
1. Flat tedious characters will flee zombies who are considerably more compelling than they are ... unsuccessfully :(
2. Various people lament about their inability to save people they care about again
3. The actor playing 'Carl' tries so hard act
Remember Colombo? You saw exactly, in the first few minutes, who's killing whom, with what motivation and in what way, no doubt about who killed whom, how, why and where.
And still people watched. Why? Because it's interesting how the whole thing unfolds.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
If it's not copyright infringement after, then it can't be copyright infringement before. Case closed.
fight back as if they can win this and then Hollywood can pull the same BS to stop bad movie reviews
Fools Just feed a different false spoiler to several different sites and your problem i solved.
It is my understanding that this applies to fair use as a limit on how much you can DIRECTLY COPY of a work. Describing the plot is not the same as quoting the plot's most interesting dialog to the point of spoiling it.
Good-bye
everyone dies! everyone always dies.
Finish Breaking Bad. Best show ever. I watched all 5 seasons in two weeks once, using my time very effectively and to good use (the end is perfect, as is the song at the end).
Best show ever. I never expected the father in Malcolm in the Middle to be that good of an actor.
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Then they shouldn't post a spoiler. Their whole front page should just be one character's name in a huge font.
Surely that cannot be a spoiler, regardless if that character happens to die in the finale.
So just start posting it anonymously all the hell over the place. It's not like the series is any good anymore anyway. It's amazing that "they" never learn; The single best way to make sure something gets read/seen/heard is to attempt to suppress it...
I'd gladly undo my previous posts in this thread to mod you up. That would be a very funny solution to the problem.
Not only Ewoks but also Hobbits live on Endor.
It turned into a zombie turd of a show.
Don't forget they did get off the island, but they ended back on the island!
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the shows been dead for a wile now. .
Damn those meteorologists constantly infringing on weather's copyright.
So... instead of saying "X character dies" we could say "X actor is (or will be) unemployed" :v
So, Wikipedia could be sued for all those books and movies entries that describes the plot? All those reviews online and on tv could also be sued when they reveal anything about the plot? Pleeaaaaassse AMC. What complete FUD
I care so little about this stuff that I made a post to comment on it, lol. :)
Seriously, all this television-psychosis and social media masturbation seems so alien to me and so far removed from my life that it's kind of sobering to see how much other people care about it. And if that's your thing, have at it, more power to ya. It just shows me how my interests differ so widely from the general population, I guess. I'm not against it, I just feel like an outsider observing a foreign culture with weird, unfamiliar rituals and ceremonies.
Anyway, carry on, and enjoy.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
This would mean the perennial favorite 'cliff notes' are unlawful?
How is this a spoiler when this was already a scene - plot in the comic ? Send the "law firm" the comic issue.