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Eight Of the World's Top 12 Smartphone Vendors Are Based In China (digidip.net)

Posted by msmash on from the China's-dominance dept.

An anonymous reader writes: How serious and dangerous is China's offensive on Korean and Western mobile hardware brands? Extremely, according to research conducted between January and March by IC Insights, which predictably positioned Samsung and Apple atop the smartphone manufacturer hierarchy, only followed by a flurry of handheld vendors based in the Middle Kingdom. In fact, eight of the ten vendors that followed the two giants are Chinese. These OEMs are, in order of their market capture, Huawei, Oppo, Xiaomi, Vivo, ZTE, Lenovo, TCL, and Meizu.

59 comments

  1. The other 4 by stealth_finger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The other 4 just build them there.

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    1. Re:The other 4 by jratcliffe · · Score: 0

      Well, they really just assemble them there. China's share of the value-add of an iPhone is tiny (single-digit percentage of the manufacturing cost of the phone, even smaller percentage of the wholesale price).

    2. Re:The other 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They originally estimated that if the iPhone was manufactured in the US they'd have to charge $10k per handset. Some say less but $10k was the original valuation.
      Although, now that Obama has had his run I'd say it would be considerably cheaper then what it would be in China.

    3. Re:The other 4 by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      Their share of of the iPhone ticket price might be tiny. However the knowledge they get from building it has been priceless. You think all these other chinese manufacturers got up to speed this quickly on their own? Who needs industrial espionage when the stupid westerners hand you the designs and get you to build all their hi-tech electronics for them!

      How many western companies would dream of building all their kit in Russia? Quite. Yet for some reason China is ok! Go figure.

    4. Re:The other 4 by stealth_finger · · Score: 3, Informative

      $10,000? That sounds like the most bullshitty claim I've heard in a long while.

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    5. Re:The other 4 by SScorpio · · Score: 1

      It includes all the bribes you have to pay for dumping of toxic waste into streams and rivers which is created during the manufacturing process. The bribes are much cheaper in China.

    6. Re: The other 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that not on of the 1,400,000,000 Chinese could figure out how to make a phone by themselves?

      After all the USA figuren out how to make interval combustion engines by themselves - or did they just steal it from the Germans?

      Twit

    7. Re:The other 4 by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      It includes all the bribes you have to pay for dumping of toxic waste into streams and rivers which is created during the manufacturing process.

      Manufacturing smartphones creates a negligible amount of toxic waste. Even the solder is lead free.

      One of the biggest benefits of manufacturing in China is the supply chain. If you run run low on #000 screws, instead of stopping the assembly line, you just tell Qiang to hop on his bicycle and pedal over to the screw factory. He will be back in 30 minutes.

    8. Re:The other 4 by Holi · · Score: 1

      who is "they", and do you have any source to back up what sounds like a completely bullshit statement?

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    9. Re: The other 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In MarketWatch there is an article that says present day about 2k if it was all American. So go back 5 or so years that price would be higher ... still bulshit?

    10. Re:The other 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their share of of the iPhone ticket price might be tiny. However the knowledge they get from building it has been priceless. You think all these other chinese manufacturers got up to speed this quickly on their own? Who needs industrial espionage when the stupid westerners hand you the designs and get you to build all their hi-tech electronics for them!

      How many western companies would dream of building all their kit in Russia? Quite. Yet for some reason China is ok! Go figure.

      Many Western companies do build in Russia.

      Well, the Chinese don't have lifetime non-compete so whatever they learned on the job, they can take to their next employer.

    11. Re:The other 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and that's where the chinese really get the engineering and other details needed to COPY the technology, designs and feature sets... just like they copy and pirate and steal IP in other (read: every) area and industry... the best part is, most of this is government sanctioned or even led.

    12. Re:The other 4 by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Sure, right.

      As long as you don't look at anything beyond final assembly, you're completely correct.

      But the fabs that the chips are made in, the facilities where the LCD displays are made, all the way down to the mining of the ores used for the metal components... It's understandable that you brush that part off.

    13. Re:The other 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares? We have Trent Reznor.

    14. Re:The other 4 by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/2...

      It is $4 from an actual assembly plant that ran in the US for a little while.

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  2. Apple isn't really a US vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The money doesn't stay the US so it should be accurately relabeled as "China / Ireland".

    1. Re:Apple isn't really a US vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And IKEA is Dutch, what's your point.

    2. Re:Apple isn't really a US vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about?

    3. Re: Apple isn't really a US vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Double irish dutch sandwich.

    4. Re:Apple isn't really a US vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a helping of their Double Irish with a Dutch Sandwich is available at any IKEA location. you help them, of course.

  3. "Middle Kingdom" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to re-evaluate what you mean by top 12 smartphone vendors. In the world, or just in China?

  4. Lenovo by Luthair · · Score: 1, Interesting

    is just Motorola. And the rest largely only manufacture domestically and/or produce junk phones. The exception is what, Huawei with the Nexus 6P?

    1. Re:Lenovo by MrNaz · · Score: 1

      Oppo phones are excellent. The R9 is a serious contended for Samsung Galaxy S series quality and build. And Huawei make more than a Nexus handset. Look at their range in the middle and low price brackets. Their low end phones look and feel like mid range Samsung phones. And ZTE? They're essentially unchallenged in the "bar of soap wifi hotspot" market.

      Dismiss the Chinese at your peril.

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    2. Re:Lenovo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the rest largely only manufacture domestically and/or produce junk phones.

      Even if that were true, which it is not, you might want to watch this lecture.

    3. Re:Lenovo by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      And the rest largely only manufacture domestically and/or produce junk phones.

      Your attitude is both complacent and wrong. I have a Xiaomi phone, and the build quality is superb. These companies have a huge domestic market, but they are also selling well in SE Asia, Africa, and India. That is most of the world's population, and where most future growth will be.

    4. Re:Lenovo by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Your attitude is both complacent and wrong. I have a Xiaomi phone, and the build quality is superb. These companies have a huge domestic market, but they are also selling well in SE Asia, Africa, and India. That is most of the world's population, and where most future growth will be.

      Those markets are still a very very long way from being anything more than low margin markets, hence junk phones. In the higher margin markets (NA / EU) the smartphone market would need a very large revolutionary change to unseat the incumbents (much like the iphone launch did to Nokia, Palm & Blackberry).

    5. Re:Lenovo by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Thats funny, because its not what reviews say.

    6. Re: Lenovo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which reviews? I have myself physically handled all of the phones I was referring to. Not only have I seen reviews of Oppo and Huawei phones which say what I said in my previous post, but I agree with them to the point that I was considering getting the R9 instead of the Galaxy S7 as my next phone.

  5. so is Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://mashable.com/2012/02/22/foxconn/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3582640/Open-sewers-mildewed-walls-one-toilet-FORTY-people-Shocking-pictures-dirty-dormitories-Apple-s-iPhone-workers-live-like-animals.html

    Not so nice being a faggot is it?

    1. Re:so is Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not ''Apple iPhone workers'' it is ''Foxconn workers''.

  6. I, for one, welcome my OLD BURNER OVERLORD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fuck these things! I don't need you recording what I say to shoot ads at my facebook account. I don't need your Uber, your Tinder, your Grind'r, your cat selfie filter. I DO NOT NEED THEM.

    What I need is a phone that makes calls and MAYBE, the odd SMS. And you almost cannot buy that anymore, by virtue of being upsold this crap that you don't want anyway!

    Am I alone?

    1. Re:I, for one, welcome my OLD BURNER OVERLORD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. You are alone.

      Very alone.

      You are about to be eaten by a Grue.

    2. Re:I, for one, welcome my OLD BURNER OVERLORD by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      What I need is a phone that makes calls and MAYBE, the odd SMS. And you almost cannot buy that anymore

      Yes you can. There are many, many dumb phones available. You can buy one from Amazon for less than $20, including shipping. You can buy one off the shelf at Walmart.

      Am I alone?

      No, many people whine about non-existent problems. You are not alone.

    3. Re:I, for one, welcome my OLD BURNER OVERLORD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So none of the problems I noted exist, gotcha.

      #Up yours, Bill.

  7. Evil dirty foreigners by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    Why do we even buy products from evil dirty foreigners? The Chinese are probably secret muslamic terrorists. We should build a wall around them and make Kim Jong-Un pay for it.

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    1. Re:Evil dirty foreigners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha

    2. Re:Evil dirty foreigners by antdude · · Score: 1

      Donald J. Trump, is that you?

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  8. Re:If you don't like it, allow industry here to GR by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Coal? So hydro, nuclear, wind and solar don't exist?

    Come to eastern Canada and ask people about coal being needed to produce electricity. They'll look at you like you're from the 1800's.

  9. Way? Huawei by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> Way?

    Huawei. I bought my kid one of these recently and he loves it. (Well, actually he loves it as much as he loves a free phone from a Dad too cheap to buy a kid an Apple or name-brand Android product)

    >> These OEMs are, in order of their market capture

    FWIW, the phrase you wanted to use was "market share"

  10. The anti-East propaganda wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are turning at full speed as usual on Slashdot. Let's make China the world's manufacturing hub, it's comfortable and cheap for us, oh it seems it's a center for technology development, and with a population of 1.3 billion they are bound to have a large amount of output, so let's now say that it's an "offensive" and that China is dangerous because they can produce electronics.

    China is not an enemy of the world, period.

    1. Re:The anti-East propaganda wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except they actually are. They are a routine violator of both human rights and intellectual property rights. They are engaged in wanton financial war against the US by manipulating their currency to maintain an unfair trade advantage.

      The list goes on.

    2. Re:The anti-East propaganda wheels by MrNaz · · Score: 2

      When the US stops bombing countries on flimsy pretexts, stops biting chunks off its citizens' rights, stops using its covert services to interfere with the politics of other sovereign nations, THEN you can come and pontificate about China being a menace. Until then, however, if you want to see the biggest global menace, look no further than Washington DC.

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    3. Re: The anti-East propaganda wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Currency manipulators ? As opposed to running a fleet of assasination drones over foreign cities.

    4. Re:The anti-East propaganda wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the hell do you know the dude/dudette that answered is from USA?

      And i'm not fom USA and i say China is a a horrible country.

    5. Re:The anti-East propaganda wheels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're deluded, uneducated, and opiniated while at the same time being uninformed, i.e. a complete doofus. There is no other country that uses as much deception and has caused as much suffering onto others in order to save its tanking currency and glutonous way of life, as the U.S. And they started a hundred their war against the world a hundred years ago with rapid expansion into South America, at a time when China wasn't even on the map as far as trade and global economies go. China are saints compared to the U.S, and it is the U.S who the world needs to be wary of, not China.

  11. Re:If you don't like it, allow industry here to GR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't you get the memo? One of Americas' largest (if more or less bankrupt at this point, LOL) coal producers also was the largest source of funding for anti-global warming propaganda, claim they're 'doing Gods work' or some such irrational harmful bullshit. Apparently 'God', whoever the fuck that is, wants to ruin the Earth and poison everyone, and having clean alternative energy sources doesn't fit in with that.

  12. Re:If you don't like it, allow industry here to GR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't you get the memo? One of Americas' largest (if more or less bankrupt at this point, LOL) coal producers also was the largest source of funding for anti-global warming propaganda, claim they're 'doing Gods work' or some such irrational harmful bullshit. Apparently 'God', whoever the fuck that is, wants to ruin the Earth and poison everyone, and having clean alternative energy sources doesn't fit in with that.

    Actually, Tom Steyer is a silver-spoon baby of a NY law firm partner who made his billions as a bankster hedge-fund manager funding coal in Indonesia.

    Steyer then went on an "OMFG GLOBAAL WARMINGZZZ!!!" propaganda crusade against the Keystone Pipeline because his investment bank (Farallon Capital Management L.L.C.) owns a huge stake in its competitor, the Trans-Canada pipeline.

  13. Middle Kingdom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Referring to China as "Middle Kingdom" is the same as referring to the USA as "oversea colonies".

    1. Re:Middle Kingdom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      referring to the USA as "oversea colonies".

      Well, that is what it is. Nothing more than UK's muscle. In case you haven't noticed, the British empire (Oceania) is bigger and stronger than it has ever been. Eastasia doesn't hold a candle.

  14. don't forget knock-offs by Virtucon · · Score: 1

    China is the leading supplier of knock-off, or fake phones too.

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  15. I have been impressed with my BLU phone... by gosand · · Score: 1

    I know that they aren't on the top list, but they make some good unlocked phones that are a fraction of the price of the big names. I will definitely buy from them again.

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  16. Blackberry Priv made in Mexico by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Android-based Blackberry Priv is made in Mexico: http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-priv-f440/what-date-your-priv-manufactured-1048504/

  17. So? by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

    Smartphones are reaching commodity lowest common denominator status. They are toasters.

  18. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oppo, vivo, one plus, bubugao are the same company

  19. Re:If you don't like it, allow industry here to GR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think the GP was talking about using coal in refining the materials used to produce the iPhone, not in producing the energy needed to manufacture them. Like, say, extracting Aluminum from bauxite

  20. Which country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Western mobile hardware brands ...

    Which country makes the majority of operating systems, software patents, laptop/desktop/supercomputer CPUs, GPUs, or even drone missiles? I won't mention the international market for movies and music, war-gaming miniatures, or even brand-name butane lighters. It's strange, how we don't complain about those products being dominated by one country.

  21. How many vendors are there? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    If position 12 has 14.4M and Other has 340M, that means there's at least 24 other vendors.

  22. There are only two companies: Apple and google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both are US companies... Those Chinese/Korean companies are just subcontractors for google.