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Pirate Bay Co-Founder Must Pay Record Labels $395,000 (torrentfreak.com)
Pirate Bay co-founder Peter Sunde has run into another setback. The Helsinki District Court has ordered him to pay $395,000 to record labels including Sony, Universal, Warner and EMI, after the music of 60 of their artists has been shared illegally through The Pirate Bay. From a TorrentFreak report:Sunde did not appear in Helsinki to defend himself so the Court handed down a default judgment. He is now ordered to pay the full amount plus costs of around $62,000 (55,000 euros) to the local branch of IFPI. He also faces a fine of one million euros if the content continues to be shared via The Pirate Bay but how he is supposed to do anything about that isn't clear. Sunde and Pirate Bay co-founders Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm owe large sums of money to copyright holders following adverse decisions in cases dating back years. None of those judgments have been satisfied and there's no reason to believe this one will be any different.
If not I'm sure he can pay it up at $10 a week for the next 769 years.
Suck it losers! You can't stop filesharing! If it's not Pirate Bay, it'll be some other torrent site, or something on the Dark Web, or anonymous FTP, or SneakerNet or carrier pigeon -- or just old-fashioned mixtapes (or mix CDs, or mix DVDs, as the case may be). You can't stop the signal. People will find a way. The more you tighten your grip on these people, the more files will slip through your fingers. GIVE UP.
You lose if you don't show up? What ever happened to cases being decided on the merits?
"after the music of 60 of their artists has been shared illegally through The Pirate Bay."
It hasn't been shared illegally through PirateBay. First of all, American copyright law does not mean zip in Sweden. Second, PirateBay doesn't host any music, just torrent files which contain lists of files and point to users who have them. Such files cannot be made illegal even under American law.
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I wonder if the Artists will get any of the Money!
What, we don't have those anymore? Well, we need them back.
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no way how to describe how sucks it is
Pirate Bay co-founder Peter Sunde has run into another setback.
He also faces a fine of one million euros if the content continues to be shared via The Pirate Bay
pretty extraordinary considering he hasnt been part of the pirate bay for nearly a fucking decade. Again, content isnt being shared, only metadata to acquire it from a distributed network of people who have it. Im sure the same media companies that employ metadata to track every iota of their customers lives are well versed in the concept.
Sunde and Pirate Bay co-founders Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm owe large sums of money to copyright holders following adverse decisions in cases dating back years.
the point of this is you do not, and cannot win these court cases. The cases arent the point, its biblical retribution for anyone who even dares to challenge the protection racket of music and video. Most of the attorneys are just showing up to bleed the defendant dry and ruin as much of them as possible. Its harder to do in more liberal european nations, however its getting easier. Media companies have a direct in with the FBI and ICE. They can lobby to have your generally trustworthy host countries police force arrive in full tactical regalia to drag you in handcuffs to jail for a victimless crime. Kim Dot Com doesnt get to win his cases either. your money is confiscated, youre made to be tried in absentia, your case is as obfuscated as possible, and the judge has more chromosomes than a sperm bank.
Good people go to bed earlier.
the Federal government, along with some State governments, (most notably Florida's), has announced that distributors and sellers of firearms will henceforth be both civilly and criminally liable for injuries and deaths caused by guns and ammunition they have sold. Oh, wait...
An individual can be hounded and sued into oblivion for providing a platform which others use to distribute copies of music and videos. Yet gun makers and sellers are held harmless, and continue to profit, while the products they sell result in illegal deaths on a more-than-hourly basis. So basically, the profits of music companies and movie studios are more important, in the eyes of the law, than the lives of average people. What a fucked up set of priorities in a thoroughly obscene legal system.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
I'll have some respect for copyright when the terms aren't life of the author plus 75 years. That's ridiculous. If someone makes a work today, I'll have been dead 50 odd years before it's in the public domain - assuming, a big assumption, that the shill maximalists don't get the terms extended even more towards perpetuity.
Current terms are also theft: they are the theft of things that could have been. If terms were 20 years then at that mark new works could be created by anyone who would wish and their work would then get 20 years. You want to see an explosion of culture? Look at that right there. Creative works that take ideas in ways the original author couldn't conceive of or didn't think was worth the money. 20 year term: and I will never infringe again, unjust terms bring all of copyright into contempt.
For a free (pdf download) of a book which explains the issue in detail, see: The Public Domain.
Shh.
If you don't show up to tell your side of the story when ordered to, so the judge only hears one side, what do you expect would happen?
A default judgement isn't quite automatic - the plaintiff needs to put forth a reasonable claim in the written filing, and typically the judge takes a couple of minutes at trial time to see that the claim appears somewhat reasonable.
My divorce is a good example. My ex-wife signed showing that she knew about the hearing and choose not to attend. I presented a division of property which I said my wife and I had agreed to. The judge asked maybe five or six questions to see if there was any clear unfairness, which took five or six minutes, and it was done. If my ex wanted to dispute it, she had the opportunity to do so. She choose not to speak, to have the judge hear only from me.
In fact I was fair to my ex-wife, but how can the judge be sure if she chooses to not show up? Should the judge waste more of her time on it if my ex decided it wasn't worth taking two hours to show up?
The copyright term approximates the life of the author's grandchildren on grounds that those descendants who had personal contact with the author are in the best position to exploit the work as the author intended. The "life of grandchildren" rationale dates back to the nineteenth century. Starting in the 1990s, it was extended in many countries from 50 years after the death of the author to 70 on grounds of drastic improvement in health care over the twentieth century, which allows authors and their children to reproduce later. But until medicine breaks the menopause barrier, a subsequent extension is not justified without abandoning life of grandchildren as the rationale.
Or how about this, make a standard open license for works between 20 years old and life of author +75 years where x% of the gross goes to the original author or their estate?
In other words, under your proposal, a work would enter the eminent domain before entering the public domain. Then let the debate commence of what royalty rate constitutes "just compensation" pursuant to the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and foreign counterparts, especially in fields without enough liquidity in the license market to establish a fair market value and in cases of non-commercial sharing where the gross is zero.
Tolkien's grandkids don't have the money to buy off Congress every time The Hobbit inches towards public domain. Disney and Time Warner, do.
Which makes a mockery of copyrights, at least as to how they came about in the U.S. The whole point is to have an exclusive, but time limited control over the reproduction of works to encourage creation. Locking up ideas for a century or more is the antithesis of that.
A good example here is Disney itself - FIFTY of their movies have been based on public domain works. Many of which, like the Jungle Book and Alice in Wonderland, they couldn't have made if current copyright laws were in place at the time.
Nothing was hosted or shared on the pirate bay.
It's cool though, I know many people who haven't given a dime to entertainment companies in over a decade, and will continue not giving them a single dime ever again.
If records labels are to be believed they have lost hundreds of millions of dollars a year.
Looking at some of the later figures it seems they have lost more money than the music industry is worth.
Imagine an average person that was wrong in such a way; having lost more money than he could make even when counting his friends claimed salaries put together. Wouldn't you demand at least more money than the damages have caused?
The poor label will now have to rebuild their shattered empire on a mere $395k + stamps and change.
I still remember those days when the RIAA website was hacked and they kindly offered everyone a chance to download and appreciate the good music of Linkin Park. Why would anyone want to wrong these generous individuals is simply beyond me.
My heart really goes out to these honest, hard working folk. When I read of their suffering I weep.
It doesn't matter I guess because in the end justice was served, was it not? all the record labels won. I salute your victory in ASCII:
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Wow. I sure wish I had known this was coming. I didn't use pirate sites like the Pirate bay since "they" told me it was stealing and I didn't want to risk involvement with that. If I had know that, had I used the site to get "free music" one of the founders would eventually pay for my music, I sure would have used the site gladly! Well, now I know. I'll start using pirate sites like the Pirate Bay right away (still won't use criminal sites like E-Bay though).
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
If you don't show up to tell your side of the story when ordered to, so the judge only hears one side, what do you expect would happen?
Dunno, what would happen if a North Korean court ordered you to show up and you just ignored them?
Finland is not Sweden and I doubt that they have routines to serve legal documents to other countries.
They can hardly go through the Swedish legal system since Sunde already served a prison sentence and you can't be punished twice for the same crime.
send them one cd. the record labels say that's worth millions when it's them vs consumers.
How much did the MAFIAA pay the judge?