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Florida Man Sues Apple For $10+ Billion, Says He Invented iPhone Before Apple (macrumors.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the Florida-man dept.

An anonymous reader writes from a report via MacRumors: A Florida resident that goes by the name of Thomas S. Ross has filed a lawsuit against Apple this week, claiming that the iPhone, iPad, and iPod infringe upon his 1992 invention of a hand-drawn "Electronic Reading Device" (ERD). The court filing claims the plaintiff was "first to file a device so designed and aggregated," nearly 15 years before the first iPhone. MacRumors reports: "Between May 23, 1992 and September 10, 1992, Ross designed three hand-drawn technical drawings of the device, primarily consisting of flat rectangular panels with rounded corners that "embodied a fusion of design and function in a way that never existed prior to 1992." Ross applied for a utility patent to protect his invention in November 1992, but the application was declared abandoned in April 1995 by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office after he failed to pay the required application fees. He also filed to copyright his technical drawings with the U.S. Copyright Office in 2014. While the plaintiff claims that he continues to experience "great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money," he has demanded a jury trial and is seeking restitution no less than $10 billion and a royalty of up to 1.5% on Apple's worldwide sales of infringing devices." MacRumors commenter Sunday Ironfoot suggests this story may be "The mother of all 'Florida Man' stories." Apple has been awarded a patent today that prohibits smartphone users from taking photos and videos at concerts, movies theaters and other events where people tend to ignore such restrictions.

159 comments

  1. Florida Man files a lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wakes up in a courtroom with no idea how he got there, claims "it was all just a huge misunderstanding" and he'll be needing his drugs back.

  2. Yyyyeaahhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeahhhh... that's not exactly how I read the other article about today's patent, but this is certainly not something we need to be seeing in the headlines is it?

  3. Good luck! by pete6677 · · Score: 2

    Good luck there buddy. I'm sure you'll do awesome against the Apple lawyers.

    1. Re:Good luck! by lucm · · Score: 3, Funny

      My plan is to let him win, then sue him for 9.999 billions after that since I invented fhe iPhone in 1991. He has less lawyers than Apple so he will be easier to sue.

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    2. Re:Good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, he's just following the American way. Come up with some half-baked idea, and when someone comes along with an actual successful creation which is even remotely similar, sue their asses off.

      We see it in product design, programming, music... remember, only schmucks get rich by accomplishing something. Everybody else does it by inheriting or stealing it. Preferably both.

    3. Re:Good luck! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      Good luck there buddy. I'm sure you'll do awesome against the Apple lawyers.

      And because:

      he continues to experience "great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money,"

      the jury won't insult him by offering him money to soothe his feelings.

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    4. Re:Good luck! by msauve · · Score: 1

      "great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money," - the jury won't insult him by offering him money to soothe his feelings.

      Blackjack and hookers?

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    5. Re:Good luck! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I invented the h-phone, the i-phone was just a progression.

    6. Re:Good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if i sign up can i mod stuff as cynical?

    7. Re: Good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apple's lawyers are almost certainly going to introduce the plaintiff to the doctrine of laches.

      If you know about an infringement, allowing the infringement to go unanswered is a great way to get your claim dismissed.

    8. Re:Good luck! by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have a feeling if he won 10 billion he'd be able to afford a lawyer or two.

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    9. Re:Good luck! by pete6677 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You should patent this idea.

    10. Re:Good luck! by Dahamma · · Score: 2

      Not after he spent it all on scratchers and Boone's.

    11. Re:Good luck! by Hylandr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even though I detest Apple, they have prior art by about 8 years.

      The Apple Newton

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    12. Re:Good luck! by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      Dude, the Newton, it had square corners so it doesn't count and that would be according to Apple's own patents ;).

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    13. Re:Good luck! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      "Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."

      - Steve Jobs, 1996

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    14. Re:Good luck! by umghhh · · Score: 1

      only if you pay a fee...

    15. Re: Good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry folks, there were devices prior to Apple. By a major company that supplied Apple monies to keep in operation. None of you would remember the medical tablets of the 80's. With a working OS. Many designs used in the field were wireless. And touchscreen. And a phone, and by mainline companies, and appealing, meaning rounded edges. With patient applied for, on the cases.

    16. Re:Good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My plan is to let him win, then sue him for 9.999 billions after that since I invented fhe iPhone in 1991. He has less lawyers than Apple so he will be easier to sue.

      Probably less money too though

    17. Re:Good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samsung with indirectly provide him lawyers!

    18. Re:Good luck! by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      he continues to experience "great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money,"

      the jury won't insult him by offering him money to soothe his feelings.

      His injury is nothing compared with mine. I didn't invent anything like an iphone so just think how I feel. I don't even have a chance of suing Apple. I'm gutted.

    19. Re:Good luck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering some of his "ideas", one could go all the way back to 1972 for prior art in Alan Kay's Dynabook concept, which led Kay to develop the Xerox Alto at PARC in the 70's to work with the ideas for the Dynabook using the hardware of the era. The Alto, which Jobs famously saw during a tour of PARC in the late 70's, inspired him to develop the Lisa, then the Macintosh, which eventually shrunk down and became the iPhone.

      Florida Man doesn't have a chance in hell.

    20. Re: Good luck! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Citation in case anyone tries to ask for it:

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      Oh, and they even had rounded corners too.

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    21. Re:Good luck! by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Dude, the Newton, it had square corners so it doesn't count and that would be according to Apple's own patents ;).

      Let's ignore the whole tired "rounded corners" argument - he applied for a utility patent. How the drawings in an utility patent look like matters jack shit about what violates it - that's what design patents are for. IOW we don't even have to look at the drawings whether they "look exactly like" or not at all.like something.

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    22. Re:Good luck! by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      "Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."

      - Steve Jobs, 1996

      "Do you have a fucking point?" - Apolph Hitler, 1984

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  4. 5 years too late by BlueStraggler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple began work on the Newton in 1987, so he's going to have to better than a 1992 napkin sketch, methinks.

    1. Re:5 years too late by dbIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      True, but it's annoying how much of a big deal the summary makes about "hand drawn" technical drawings and it's definitely not equivalent to a "napkin sketch". Not very long before 1992 I was using a pencil, paper and drawing board as well because of a shortage of CAD workstations where I was.

      That this is going to court at all is still a sign of multiple fuckups with patents. I also had the idea of something like a smartphone back then but I'd picked it up from fiction like masses of others that thought about it - it's a trivial passing thought unless you do something serious about it to make the idea reality. Patents are supposed to be about implementations of ideas and not just a vague description of something that would be nice to have.

    2. Re:5 years too late by msauve · · Score: 5, Informative

      Alan Kay did this in 1972.

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    3. Re:5 years too late by bwhalen · · Score: 1

      yep I was at the Newton release event so his 1992 claim of being first is completely absurd.

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    4. Re:5 years too late by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is a certain karmic justice in Apple having to formally address an idiot who thinks a slab with rounded corners is worthy of intellectual property, given that apple has asserted the same.

      While his application might have been abandoned, that doesn't negate it as prior art.

    5. Re:5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he doesn't have a patent. He applied for a patent, but never received one. This is someone with a mental illness filing a lawsuit. It will be kicked out by the court once they get around to addressing it.

    6. Re:5 years too late by Namarrgon · · Score: 0

      Well, sure his prototype Dynabook was a portable, rechargeable, personal computer with GUI, multimedia, and wireless communications, and it's undeniably true that his 1972 design was highly influential on Xerox's later UI work (and thus Apple's), and he may indeed be one of the true fathers of modern computing - but his invention didn't have "flat rectangular panels with rounded corners", did it? So no dice.

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    7. Re:5 years too late by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      That this is going to court at all is still a sign of multiple fuckups with patents.

      Seems to me that it's more of a reflection on the poor state of the court system in America and the lawsuit culture surrounding it than of the patent system and its many faults. After all, this guy could just as easily be suing Apple because a guy who he thought looked like Tim Cook let their dog take a dump on his front lawn. That doesn't mean the housing system is broken, nor would it mean his case had any merit. The fact that a suit has no merit doesn't stop the crazies from filing them anyway.

    8. Re:5 years too late by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

      Seriously. If those sketches and doodles of a vaguely iPhone-ish/iPad-ish device are cause for action, then the producers of Star Trek: The Next Generation have a massive case of prior art and out to totally destroy this guy. Hell, Star Trek didn't stop at drawings either, they built full-size mockups and put them on television.

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    9. Re:5 years too late by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      While his application might have been abandoned, that doesn't negate it as prior art.

      When I was in grade school, I made a crayon drawing of a square with a smiley face in. You're on notice Apple: Facetime is mine.

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    10. Re:5 years too late by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Anyone can FILE a patent, but it's a different story to get it issued.

      "flat rectangular panels with rounded corners" is not a utility patent, anyway, it's a design patent. Good luck to him if he doesn't even know the difference.

    11. Re:5 years too late by TheReaperD · · Score: 1

      Actually, the law, at the time, was a 'first to invent' system where you don't have to have a filed patent for protection, just proof that you created it first. Since then, patent law has been changed to a 'first to file' system where the first one to the patent office normally gets the protection. There are exceptions but, that's another story. Since the law of the time was under the 'first to invent' system, that is what would apply in this case. If he could prove that he invented it first, he would have a case. He most likely doesn't even with the old law but, he's welcome to try his luck with Apple's lawyers and get squashed. It is a bit of irony for Apple to get slapped with this and I'll enjoy my schadenfreude.

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    12. Re:5 years too late by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      While his application might have been abandoned, that doesn't negate it as prior art.

      Perhaps, but isn't his claim weakened by the fact that he waited so long to file suit?

      IANAL. Could someone who is tell us what the legal principle is in this case? Specifically, if you wait too long to claim harm, then your claim of harm is invalidated?

      And besides, what does prior art do for him? Wouldn't prior art just invalidate (some of) Apple's patents, and allow any other manufacturer to make a device that would otherwise infringe on those patents?

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    13. Re:5 years too late by sjames · · Score: 2

      The prior art doesn't do anything for him, but it SHOULD kill Apple's ability to further abuse the patent that should never have been.

      It doesn't say much for USPTO that they ignored prior art in their own files when they granted Apple one of the world's stupidest patents.

    14. Re:5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps not, but a fellow named Moses is reported to have used tablets with rounded corners much earlier.

    15. Re: 5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Isn't this it? http://www.google.com/patents/USD670286

    16. Re: 5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      You and the moron with the mod-point should actually take some time to read up on it. The 'rounded-corners' bit was part of a long list of cosmetic, as opposed to utilitarian, details that Samsung copied very closely.

      The funny thing is your ignorance and your silly hatred of anything Apple has been monetized by Slashdot. That's something that actually may be patent worthy.

    17. Re: 5 years too late by sjames · · Score: 0

      Did you, by chance, confuse Steve Job's ashes with chocolate milk powder?

    18. Re: 5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All you did was imply that I've read more about this than you. Smooth.

    19. Re:5 years too late by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a certain karmic justice in Apple having to formally address an idiot who thinks a slab with rounded corners is worthy of intellectual property, given that apple has asserted the same.

      Except, Apple's rounded corners patent was a DESIGN patent. As in it was looks. You had to have a device with rounded corners, AND a grid of icons AND a row of icons that's static. See the "AND"s? Android by default had none of those. The default Android look had rounded corners, a row of icons that was static, but NOT a grid of icons (ever wonder about the clock widget? Natch).

      Design patents also only last 5 years. You can actually manufacture a phone that looks exactly like the iPhone 4 or 4S right now and Apple cannot do anything - the design patent has expired.

      In fact, Apple's rounded corner patent has also long expired.

      This guy's patent is actually a UTILITY patent. If it's actually valid, it would cover ALL smartphones on the market - there isn't an exception that would exclude any phone on the market.

    20. Re:5 years too late by sjames · · Score: 2

      I didn't say I believe the patent to be valid, I said there's karmic justice to apple having to deal with it.

      Apple did assert the outrageous idea that the rounded slab was somehow brand new.

    21. Re:5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Star Trek TNG may have invented it. They launched their show in 1987 oddly about the same time Apple started working on their Newton. Coincidence? Perhaps not. This quack is likely going to be paying Apple's lawyer fees as the price of his own stupidity.

    22. Re: 5 years too late by Joce640k · · Score: 0

      You and the moron with the mod-point should actually take some time to read up on it. The 'rounded-corners' bit was part of a long list of cosmetic, as opposed to utilitarian, details that Samsung copied very closely.

      "Copied very closely"? LOL!

      People have been rounding off corners for thousands of years. If you think that Samsung had to sit down and carefully study Apples ingenious new design for corners then you're one of the smallest thinkers on the planet.

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    23. Re: 5 years too late by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      The 'rounded-corners' bit was part of a long list of cosmetic, as opposed to utilitarian, details that Samsung copied very closely.

      Fuck off, the corners can either be rounded or square and no, they're not going the be square. They practically all had rounded corners and a button in the middle on the bottom. Apparently a rectangle is the same as a circle, or at least very close.

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    24. Re: 5 years too late by dsparil · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apple has a long list of design patents for the iPhone. These specificly only cover cosmetic elements. The US is the only country in the world that uses the word patent for this. In other countries they are called registered designs.

    25. Re:5 years too late by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      What about Star Trek The Next Generation? Didn't they had PADDs before 1992? Surely the iPad is just a rip-off of TNG, even the name is similar! They even had rounded corners and a full touch interface with no buttons, wireless comms and were intuitive to use!

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    26. Re:5 years too late by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      I remember reading science fiction stories with electronic pads of various sorts. One book had it be the central detail of the whole story. This was back in the 1980s.

      I don't think anyone is really claiming that the 'tablet computer' was invented by Apple, or that any computer company didn't know they existed in fiction stories long before anyone actually made one.

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    27. Re:5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Except, Apple's rounded corners patent was a DESIGN patent. As in it was looks. You had to have a device with rounded corners, AND a grid of icons AND a row of icons that's static. See the "AND"s? Android by default had none of those. The default Android look had rounded corners, a row of icons that was static, but NOT a grid of icons (ever wonder about the clock widget? Natch)."

      Pure rounded corner design patent :

      http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=D618,677.PN.&OS=PN/D618,677&RS=PN/D618,677

    28. Re: 5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple busted samsung for making something that bore some similarity to their phone. If you cant see the irony in them getting sued by this whackado then you're the moe-ron.

    29. Re:5 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, you can sue based on what the law was 'back then'.

      1. Read slashdot, get news of when some bad abusible law you never heard of get repealed.
      2. Sue people/corporations for curious breaches of this law in the past
      3. Profit!

    30. Re:5 years too late by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      But you still have to file, even under first-to-invent.

      It just means that evidence that you were working on it at a certain date is taken into account and that might trump the guy who got to the office first.

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    31. Re: 5 years too late by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Apple busted samsung for making something that bore some similarity to their phone. If you cant see the irony in them getting sued by this whackado then you're the moe-ron.

      Samsung's phone was a direct-as-possible copy of the iPhone, and there are internal Samsung memos to prove it.

      Anyone participating in the "Serves Apple Right" or "Rounded Corners FTW"-type memes are either Shills, or complete and total idiots (or both).

      Which are you?

    32. Re: 5 years too late by macs4all · · Score: 1

      You and the moron with the mod-point should actually take some time to read up on it. The 'rounded-corners' bit was part of a long list of cosmetic, as opposed to utilitarian, details that Samsung copied very closely.

      "Copied very closely"? LOL!

      People have been rounding off corners for thousands of years. If you think that Samsung had to sit down and carefully study Apples ingenious new design for corners then you're one of the smallest thinkers on the planet.

      Yes. Copied very closely indeed!

      So, look at those two pictures and tell me seriously that the only thing similar between the first gen. iPhone and that Samsung POS is Rounded Corners. I dare you.

    33. Re:5 years too late by macs4all · · Score: 2

      While his application might have been abandoned, that doesn't negate it as prior art.

      Perhaps, but isn't his claim weakened by the fact that he waited so long to file suit?

      IANAL. Could someone who is tell us what the legal principle is in this case? Specifically, if you wait too long to claim harm, then your claim of harm is invalidated?

      And besides, what does prior art do for him? Wouldn't prior art just invalidate (some of) Apple's patents, and allow any other manufacturer to make a device that would otherwise infringe on those patents?

      Statute of Limitations and Laches are the two legal doctrines in play here. (Laches is a "Doctrine" that rests in the Roman "Equity" (fairness) form of Jurisprudence, "Statute of Limitations" is generally written into Statutes (Laws).

      Both will get your case thrown out, regardless of the merits.

    34. Re:5 years too late by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Patents are supposed to be about implementations of ideas and not just a vague description of something that would be nice to have.

      Yeahh... And if they weren't, then there should be a suit from paramount pictures who invented the PADD

      Hell.... StarTrek even had Touch Screen tablets, before the Palm Pilot or the 1st gen Blackberry was a thing.

    35. Re: 5 years too late by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Fuck off, the corners can either be rounded or square and no, they're not going the be square.

      I'm going to take the same design and patent Elliptical corners and Trapezoidal corners.......

    36. Re: 5 years too late by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      So, out of curiosity, how much does it pay to work in Apple's marketing department as a shill?

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    37. Re: 5 years too late by Coren22 · · Score: 0

      So, look at those two pictures and tell me seriously that the only thing similar between the first gen. iPhone and that Samsung POS is Rounded Corners. I dare you.

      The only thing similar between the first gen. iPhone and that Samsung POS is Rounded Corners.

      There, what do I win?

      Looking at the two, I can clearly see that the Samsung is significantly different in several design elements, and any person who can't see it likely has trouble distinguishing the phone on their wall from an iPhone, or frankly ANY other smartphone.

      Again I ask, how much does Apple's marketing department pay their shills?

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    38. Re: 5 years too late by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      I put one in for semi circular corners. They didn't seem to have a problem with it so I'm just drafting up my suit with my law guy. We're trying to figure out if a zillion is a real number. Doesn't matter though that's what we're going for.

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    39. Re:5 years too late by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      Apple has to deal with patent trolls all the time. Sometimes they even deal with patent trolls on behalf of their developers.

      We all know the system is busted; Apple is an old hand at fending off these garbage suits. What's ACTUALLY novel about this one is you know exactly who's suing them--it's not some faceless registered patent holding umbrella corp. with empty offices somewhere in Texas.

    40. Re: 5 years too late by macs4all · · Score: 1

      So, out of curiosity, how much does it pay to work in Apple's marketing department as a shill?

      Wish they did; but sadly, I doubt they even know I exist.

    41. Re:5 years too late by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      That this is going to court at all is still a sign of multiple fuckups with patents.

      Patents are not the problem, because the guy doesn't have a patent. He applied for a patent, then didn't pay his fees, so the patent application was abandoned.

    42. Re: 5 years too late by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      People have been rounding off corners for thousands of years. If you think that Samsung had to sit down and carefully study Apples ingenious new design for corners then you're one of the smallest thinkers on the planet.

      Another idiot who doesn't know how design patents work. Samsung didn't copy rounded corners, Samsung copied the whole list of design items in Apple's design patent for the iPhone 3. They made phones that were indistinguishable from an iPhone 3. They also made tablets that Samsung's own lawyers couldn't distinguish from an iPad. At the same time, Samsung _also_ has design patents for Samsung phones with rounded corners. Which look amazingly different from iPhones.

    43. Re: 5 years too late by sjames · · Score: 1

      They look similar for the same reason screwdrivers look similar. The grid of icons is a rip from a typical Windows 95 desktop and/or any touchscreen ever.. The edges are rounded because everyone eases edges, going back centuries. The mic is at one end and the speaker at the others because it has to match with human anatomy.

      My old mid 90s feature phone also laid out the apps on a grid. It also resembles the old win phones.

      "Florida man's" design also looks similar for the same reason.

    44. Re: 5 years too late by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Pro Tip: Go to finance.yahoo.com... Type in Apple's stock symbol AAPL in the Enter Symbol box.
      Click the Key Statistics menu option
      Find the line that says "Enterprise Value:"
      B is for billion

      To decide how much the lawsuit should be for, take that number and add a few zeros before the decimal.

    45. Re: 5 years too late by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Apple copied everything from the iPaq, right down to the name.

      http://img.tomshardware.com/cn...

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    46. Re: 5 years too late by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Apple copied everything from the iPaq, right down to the name.

      http://img.tomshardware.com/cn...

      You HONESTLY think THAT looks like a iPhone?!? Seriously?

      Look at the Samsung phone and then look at the iPaq. Which one do YOU think looks like an iPhone, and which one looks like a Palm Pilot?

      FFS, if you think THAT's the case, then my WALLET looks like an iPhone (and it doesn't).

  5. Why only ten billions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He should have went for eleventy.

  6. Sorry, Charlie! by slowdeath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Patented in 1992, 24 years ago. Patent would have expired even if it had not been abandoned in 1995 due to non payment of maintenance fee.

    The only one who will win anything on this is Mr Florida's lawyer for his fees. Hopefully he is not so stupid as to take this on contingency.

    1. Re:Sorry, Charlie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He filed it without a lawyer. Over 100 page complaint as well. It will be dismissed, and attorneys fees will be awarded against him if Apple decides to actually pursue them.

    2. Re:Sorry, Charlie! by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      Not patented at all, as apparently he never paid the filing fee.

    3. Re:Sorry, Charlie! by bozzy · · Score: 2

      The article says, Ross *applied* for the patent in 1992. It also says the application was abandoned due to non payment of the *filing* fee, so this wasn't even a granted patented. The application didn't get anywhere in the filing process. There's no patent to even infringe on in the first place.

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  7. Ah Florida Man... by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never change, buddy. Never change.

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    1. Re:Ah Florida Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Florida or Germany?

    2. Re:Ah Florida Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Truly the Superhero the US deserves.

    3. Re:Ah Florida Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never change, buddy. Never change.

      Amen

    4. Re:Ah Florida Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that was clockboy.

    5. Re: Ah Florida Man... by corychristison · · Score: 0

      I came here just for this.
      Not disappointed. Never change, Slashdot. Never change.

    6. Re:Ah Florida Man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone should buy him a gay cake in compensation

  8. Florida resident comes out of closet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... claims to have designed world's gayest phone.

  9. money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I want to patent my bio mechanic appendage for manipulation of objects at will. The appendage will connect to a human body seamlessly, and allow people to perform a variety of tasks such as eating, scatching you arse and applying for parents. This invention will be called an "arm" and I anticipate that future individuals, companies and organisations will derive great value and utility from being able to use their arms on a daily basis.

  10. Was the Dynabook patented? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    1. Re:Was the Dynabook patented? by Jecel+Assumpcao+Jr · · Score: 2

      A very detailed article about the Dynabook was published in 1972:

      http://www.vpri.org/pdf/hc_per...

      The PDF makes it sound like an internal Xerox PARC report but it was actually article 1 in ACM '72 Proceedings of the ACM annual conference - Volume 1.

      While previous patents are the first thing the US Patent Office looks for in prior art that might invalidate a patent under consideration, an article such as the above counts just as much. A public demonstration of a product would count too. In fact, even if the prior art was produced by the author of the patent it can invalidate it, though there is a grace period (six months or something like that) in the case of the patent's author. I don't know if that has changed in the move from "first to invent" to "first to file" by the USPO.

      Once thing that always makes these discussions more confusing than they should be is that there are patents for inventions (how it works) and also patents for designs (how it looks). They are different and how they are invalidated by prior are is different. Since the summary talks about "rounded corners" and stuff like that we might be talking about a design patent.

  11. "Florida Man" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is back at it again. Never fails to let us down.

  12. Get in line buddy by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    I invented it too in 2005, where's my money: http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    I am suing Apple and then I filed a larger copy of the lawsuit with Samsung.

  13. Took 9 years to find a lawyer by justcauseisjustthat · · Score: 1

    It actually took 9 years to find a lawyer that was willing to waste time and money on something that is a joke

    1. Re:Took 9 years to find a lawyer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He filed it without a lawyer.

  14. 1992 you say? And it folds? by jpellino · · Score: 1

    I'm sure he never saw the 1987 Knowledge Navigator video either...

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  15. Wait a minute by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    A guy applies for a patent in November 1992, 6 months after the demo of the Apple MessagePad in May 1992, never paid the filing fee and now, 24 years later, he wants to sue Apple because he stole Apple's idea and failed to patent it?

  16. Jury trial by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 2

    "he has demanded a jury trial "

    Can I be on it? Can I? Can I? Yeah, I'm surprised this one wasn't filed in the East district of Texas.

    1. Re:Jury trial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure. If he demands trial by combat.

    2. Re:Jury trial by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm surprised this one wasn't filed in the East district of Texas.

      That requires at least the intelligence level of a slimy blood sucking leech. He's not that smart.

    3. Re:Jury trial by teslar · · Score: 1

      He should have gone for trial by combat... might have had a chance then...

    4. Re:Jury trial by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      He should have gone for trial by combat..

      Should he have gone with The Mountain or The Viper as his champion?

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  17. Did his device... by ZiakII · · Score: 2

    Did his device have rounded corners? Can he go after Samsung as well?

  18. Time limit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't there a 12 year time limit or something? IF you patent it.

  19. Apple should sue for copyright infringement by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    Apple should sue for copyright infringement. FWIW, I invented the iPhone before this guy.

  20. Texas Man Florida Man by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that Texas Man has been making a strong move to overtake Florida Man, as this story of courage and determination demonstrates:

    http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/...

    The man in question, Tommie Woodward was known in Texas for his taste in clothes.

    http://cdn.unilad.co.uk/wp-con...

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  21. So he invalidated Star Trek.. silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Star Trek The Next Generation has PADDs through out. And that premiereed in 1987.

    Star Trek The Old Series had a "drawable clipboard" for fuel consumption reports. And that premiered in 1967.

    I think his patents a bit off the mark.

    And I'll bet he's not a practicing entity, so that means he is No different than a Science Fiction serial Offender.

    1. Re:So he invalidated Star Trek.. silly by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 2

      TOS had one in the 1960's. In fact, they devoted an entire character to walking around with one.

  22. Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole idea of a lawsuit is ridiculous. Even if he had built a fully functional prototype, any patent filed would be expired even if he paid the fees. Besides he would have needed to file suit in 2008 when the iPhone first came out, if you don't protect your patent you lose it is well established in patent litigation. The court should fine him AND his lawyer $50,000, each, for wasting the courts time and patience.

  23. Sorry Dave... by matbury · · Score: 1

    Apple has been awarded a patent today that prohibits smartphone users from taking photos and videos at concerts, movies theaters and other events where people tend to ignore such restrictions.

    The infamous words instantly spring to mind, "Sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

  24. Sorry, Pal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've already got the patent on douchebaggery. It took awhile, but somebody finally infringed.

  25. "flat rectangular panels with rounded corners" by Namarrgon · · Score: 1

    Welp, he's got them by the short & curlies there.

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    1. Re:"flat rectangular panels with rounded corners" by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Would you like a box of crackers?

      That's like the eighth time you've parroted that line so far.

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  26. Suit filed in Floride District Court by Streetlight · · Score: 1

    I presume this is a State of Florida court not a US Federal court. It would seem the Florida court has no jurisdiction over patent stuff so I expect a pretty quick dismissal and suggestion of using a Federal court. Filing in the federal circuit court appropriate to Florida probably would get a pretty quick dismissal as well. Now, going to East Texas probably would would result in a huge judgement in the Ross's favor. and even more money for his lawyers if they're not on contingency. Last step to a Federal Appeals court with judicial laughter heard all the way to Cupertino.

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    1. Re:Suit filed in Floride District Court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He filed in the Federal District Court of the Southern District of Florida. It will get dismissed and Apple will get attorney fees if they actually wanted to seek them (which would never be able to be collected). The same thing would have happened if he filed it in EDTex.

      Plus, he is doing this pro se - without a lawyer.

    2. Re:Suit filed in Floride District Court by Streetlight · · Score: 1

      Here's the quote from the linked article: "Ross v. Apple, Inc. was filed with the Florida Southern District Court on June 27. The case number is 0:2016cv61471." The world Federal doesn't appear so I took it as a state court. My bad! Anyway, we're in agreement that this will likely be laughed out of court. No lawyers for Ross? Apple's lawyers could be $650 per hour, if not more, plus travel and hotel, etc., if necessary, and they should go after reimbursement.

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    3. Re:Suit filed in Floride District Court by NicBenjamin · · Score: 1

      In the US District Court is the lowest level of the Federal system. The districts are state-based. Some states only have one district (Colorado, for example), but Florida has three. This is in the Southern District, so everything interesting is going to happen in Miami.

      It's possible some state calls some level of Courts "District Court," but I don't know of any and it would be quite confusing if there were. But "confusing" didn't stop New York State from declaring the basic level of the Court system the Supreme Court. You appeal from there to the Appellate Division, and the actual supreme Court is the "New York Court of Appeals."

  27. BeauHD is an ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BeauHD feels a need to always add a link to a recent previous post at the end of every post. Stop that shit, now.

  28. Bring back waterboarding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NT

  29. Star Trek by u16084 · · Score: 1

    Gene Roddenberry invented alot of stuff.... if thats how we gonna roll

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  30. Peter Theil? by Daemonik · · Score: 1

    Now this guy just needs to sue Gawker and Peter Theil will bankroll his lawsuit like he's bankrolling the guy who "invented" email!

  31. Chester Gould's Estate Should Sue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dick Tracy had the iWatch even before Apple was a glint in the Milkman's Eye.

  32. Physical keyboard on his drawings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry bud, but that's a BlackBerry not an iPhone.

  33. artist conception of flying car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've read so many "patents", sometimes descriptions, sometimes the actual patent, that have a lot of pretty technical words but come down to "and then we'll invent" ...

    So I sketched up a passenger car flying through the air (actually copied it from an old magazine cover cough ) and when we finally get flying cars ... profit!

  34. Scale by BitZtream · · Score: 0

    His 'hand held device' drawings call out a 3.5" floppy drive being only a small portion of its length.

    While the drawings may 'look' like it because they're so poorly done, its no where near they same size. That would be a very large laptop by todays standards.

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    1. Re:Scale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's bitztream, the autism-hating Slashdot troll!

  35. lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus Christ, the iPhone was on Star Trek the original series, and the iPad was on Star Trek TNG. It's a blatantly obvious form factor. On the other hand, maybe Capt's Kirk and Picard should put aside their differences and join this idiot's lawsuit.

  36. Can Samsung get money from the patent office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because clearly the patent office had prior art of a design patent for a hand held display thing with rounded corners and should never have granted such a patent to Apple. Clearly a failure of the patent offices own process.

  37. AT&T EO by jsepeta · · Score: 1

    I used the EO in 1993. It was a real device, not just some scribbles in a madman's notebook.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    1. Re:AT&T EO by jsepeta · · Score: 1

      Also used the Newton in 1993, which Apple started developing in 1987
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  38. patents are legal things, not functional devices by RichMan · · Score: 1

    "Apple has been awarded a patent today that prohibits smartphone users fro"

    The patent is a piece of paper with a description it in no way does anything to smart phones.

    The patent describes a process where hardware at a location interacts with software on the smartphone to .....

  39. Re:Texas Man Florida Man by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    And anyone that have watched Star Trek (TOS) just leans back and watches the spectacle with amusement.

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  40. 'Typewriter' keyboard... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good luck there buddy. I'm sure you'll do awesome against the Apple lawyers.

    Heh, yeah, I'm sure Apple's legal department ordered dozens of new coffee machines to power the all-nighters this air-tight case is going to bring.

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  41. 1968, Stanley Kubrick, 2001: A Space Odyssey by perpenso · · Score: 2

    Even though I detest Apple, they have prior art by about 8 years.

    The Apple Newton

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    And lets not forget the tablets used in 2001: A Space Odyssey, a Stanley Kubrick film from 1968.

    1. Re:1968, Stanley Kubrick, 2001: A Space Odyssey by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Did that movie save Samsung in court?

      Nope.

      All he needs is the same idiot judge who thought that Apple had a case against Samsung and he's home free.

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  42. Was of courts time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple is a working product. No software was ever made for it. There have been lots of round corn tablets like Palm pilots. But a drawing and no copyright to the design. They had smart watches in cartoons in the 80s I guess the arts should sue. An computer books and tablets in cartoons too. Star trek had tablet in the 1987 with rounded corners. So copy something he seen on tv and say what if it did this. Then forget about it and did not even start trying to make a working model. No case he stole the ideal form tv.

  43. Jupiter Moon by Mike+Frett · · Score: 1

    Woah now, I was watching Jupiter Moon, a BBC Space Soap Opera from 1990, and those guys had an iPhone lookalike on that show. A lot of these Sci-Fi shows had similar items.

  44. Can we have good things like that? by Blaskowicz · · Score: 2

    See the second photo? Here you can see, except the first item :

    - a stylus, because the computer is for the user's content first and foremost
    - a desktop class keyboard with a small clever layout, and wired, because we can handle it and not waste battery in both devices! and other bluetooth wastes like latency, pairing and leaking IDs. USB-C solves the cable, since it's small and all ends are the same.
    - black and white display (for certain definitions of black and of white). When I write, or I draw, or I type - no needing to worry about fecking color. Battery savings. Readable under all lights with minuscule power use. Use hatching and such in "app" graphical content. World maps, illustrated books and manga dealt with it.
    - pocketable memory cards. Make them work with NFC if a big ass slot piss you off, whatever, I don't care! I can't hear you! Memory cards and USB drives are currently sized for rats not humans. You have to have special considerations to carry them and keep a mental note of what's on them.
    A flat memory card that's sturdy, just thick enough to not bend, indestructable, can write on it even with the wrong pen and can contain as much as 46603 floppies if I need it or whatever? Gimme please.

  45. ah, the patent system by Tom · · Score: 1

    Because all the value is in having the idea and making a few sketches, yes?

    Whatever came of the requirement to submit a working prototype to get a patent? That would fix half of the patent systems problems.

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  46. Re:Texas Man Florida Man by AntronArgaiv · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that Texas Man has been making a strong move to overtake Florida Man, as this story of courage and determination demonstrates:

    http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/...

    The man in question, Tommie Woodward was known in Texas for his taste in clothes.

    http://cdn.unilad.co.uk/wp-con...

    Optimistic, and self confident...you gotta give him that.

  47. I wish him the best of luck, but by JohnStock · · Score: 1

    .. all he did was watch Star Trek.....

  48. Patent / court system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please make it stop. If we keep rewarding people for just going to court with their "ideas" which they never even tried to implement (they drew an ugly picture), then we'll keep seeing stories like this, and companies that actually make a useful product will keep having to waste their time and money instead of making their actual products better.

  49. When will people stop? by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

    When will people stop buying iPhones? Seriously... they're pissing into everybody's pool supporting a company whose goal seems to be restricting and locking everything they can find. Shit, I bet Tim Cook has a lock on the lock on his front door, which is probably also conveniently shaped like a lock.

  50. Future proof by Mats+Svensson · · Score: 1

    pilot ---> =)->- (==8 ((--- rokcet ship

    Proof NASA owes me beeelions!

  51. Great idear! by nanospook · · Score: 1

    I just patented the BALL phone.. my turn will come Apple!

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  52. EAT UP MARTHA by gosand · · Score: 1

    Bah!

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  53. Re:1992 you say? And it folds? by macs4all · · Score: 1

    I'm sure he never saw the 1987 Knowledge Navigator video either...

    Yeah, that "Concept" video just about takes care of EVERY computing advancement up through the middle of the 21st Century...

  54. Re:Texas Man Florida Man by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Lol, the first story contains the line, "...before jumping in and meeting a grizzly end."

    I think they meant "grisly", unless it was one of those bear-alligators.

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  55. To be honest, we did too by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

    In a class i had, where i was an undergrad in a grad class, we did some UI design. We had a kitchen tool. We discussed it, and a guy rendered it on the fly. It basically was a small iMac, that mounted underneath a counter, and a slide out iPod/iPhone. THis was in 1995.

    Should we sue? nahh. Should we have pantented it? Nahh. It's a normal design. A touch screen of roundrects. The secret sauce of the iphone isn't just one thing, isn't the industrial design. There were many smartphones before it. It's the blend, how everything fits together. That takes work. That takes years. A drawing isn't an iPhone

  56. In related news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A giant, flaming loser is suing all aircraft manufacturers, airlines, and airports for trillions of dollars because he claims to have invented airplanes and runways on the back of a napkin in a previous life.

    For fucks sake. Even if he did, (and it's hard to write that without laughing out loud,) I'm pretty sure he'd have a tough time getting a court victory after failing to enforce his "intellectual property rights" for that long. What's he going to say, he was sequestered as a monk in Tibet the entire time since the first iPhone came out?

    Hahahahahahja

  57. Re:Texas Man Florida Man by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Well to be fair TNG did a much better job with the PADs with the design than TOS Electronic Clipboard.
    However if Apple couldn't kill all the Android phones with its patents, what do you expect from this guy. .

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  58. Re:Texas Man Florida Man by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Lol, the first story contains the line, "...before jumping in and meeting a grizzly end."

    I think they meant "grisly", unless it was one of those bear-alligators.

    Maybe they meant to write "gristly end", and they were writing from the alligator's point of view.

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  59. So he drew a Star Trek PADD. by NerdENerd · · Score: 1

    and then never tried to produce one or even pay his patent fees. Good luck buddy on defeating Apple's battalion of lawyers.

  60. Re:Texas Man Florida Man by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    I've noticed that Texas Man has been making a strong move to overtake Florida Man, as this story of courage and determination demonstrates:

    http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/...

    The man in question, Tommie Woodward was known in Texas for his taste in clothes.

    http://cdn.unilad.co.uk/wp-con...

    Optimistic, and self confident...you gotta give him that.

    The perfect VP for Trump.

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  61. Florida Man sues everybody by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    Florida Man sues everybody sitting in the front seat, because in 1993 he called "shotgun".

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  62. Apple bans concert recording? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bollocks to the story - a restriction on recording at gigs? Real horror show

  63. Re:Texas Man Florida Man by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

    I just read 2001 a Space Odyssey written in 1968. In it, Arthur C Clarke describes the ipad pretty accurately. And then goes on to describe how most people use it today.

    He describes a device of about the size and shape of the ipad, but then the astronaut uses it to read all the news feeds, with summaries and icons. Then he touches the icon to expand the story and reads it and then clicks back to the summary of stories. And the summaries are updated all the time 24/7. And the amount of news is beyond what any one person could read. It was bang on and did not have any excessively far fetched ideas like most devices in sci-fi.