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Slackware 14.2 Released, Still Systemd-Free (slackware.com)
sombragris writes: Slackware, the oldest GNU/Linux distribution still in active maintenance, was released just minutes ago. Slackware is noted for being the most Unix-like of all Linux distributions. While sporting kernel 4.4.14 and GCC 5.3, other goodies include Perl 5.22.2, Python 2.7.11, Ruby 2.2.5, Subversion 1.9.4, git-2.9.0, mercurial-3.8.2, KDE 4.14.21 (KDE 4.14.3 with kdelibs-4.14.21) Xfce 4.12.1... and no systemd!
According to the ChangeLog: "The long development cycle (the Linux community has lately been living in "interesting times," as they say) is finally behind us, and we're proud to announce the release of Slackware 14.2. The new release brings many updates and modern tools, has switched from udev to eudev (no systemd), and adds well over a hundred new packages to the system. Thanks to the team, the upstream developers, the dedicated Slackware community, and everyone else who pitched in to help make this release a reality." Grab the ISOs at a mirror near you. Enjoy! The torrents page can be found here.
According to the ChangeLog: "The long development cycle (the Linux community has lately been living in "interesting times," as they say) is finally behind us, and we're proud to announce the release of Slackware 14.2. The new release brings many updates and modern tools, has switched from udev to eudev (no systemd), and adds well over a hundred new packages to the system. Thanks to the team, the upstream developers, the dedicated Slackware community, and everyone else who pitched in to help make this release a reality." Grab the ISOs at a mirror near you. Enjoy! The torrents page can be found here.
...that would be introduced in a major version change.
Now with Plasma 5! You can plug the stick into any machine, and it runs perfectly right out of the box, two monitors, weird audio, doesn't matter, everything works.
Once you go Slack, you never look back!
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
One of the very first Linux distribution is still alive and kicking (without systemd!).
Great work Patrick & crew, I'll make sure I'll order a DVD soon!
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Of course it is. It isn't based on any distribution that requires systemd so they make up their own decision, just like the 30 something other distributions out there which don't use systemd.If your defining feature of your release is that you didn't change something that others aren't changing either then you should really re-think your purpose in life. ...
Except that's not it at all. Systemd isn't mentioned anywhere in the release notes or the website, so really the only reason it's in the title is as an attempt to start an editor supported flamewar, instantly ending all hope from the onset that this may be a Linux post that doesn't degrade into the typical filth. Way to go BeauHD
Just wanted to say that. Multos annos!
Sincerely, great news.
Now, if it would just remove X11/Xorg completely and rely only in Wayland, it would be my dream distro :-)
(Dreaming is allowed, ain't it?)
PS: I grew writting the X11 config file manually in my long-dead first PC and grew really hating X11 (like when as child something makes you sick and, as adult, you eat it but don't like it).
its like we're forever going to be stuck with two versions.
The python folks just need to kill version 2.
I ordered the CD the DVD and a donation.
All of you systemd haters are missing out on a fantastic piece of software. One of the things that I like the most about systemd is the wait timers. Nothing says good software design like a good uninterruptible wait timer.
Back in the day we switched to Yggdrasil because Slackware was slacking off on releases, and we needed new features.
// enjoy it if you want
/// please pick up any trash you make
//// lawn mower is right here, if you're in the mood
/ this is my lawn
I know it's the oldest and the least developed distro, but I think they should consider standardizing to save their efforts for something more valuable than the init system..
Is still without as well. Always has been, and always will be. Plus you are not an island in an ocean of sysD penguins swimming around, circling.
Like eudev and their struggle to keep Linux distros systemd free? Donate here: Gentoo
Their install instructions / help still talk about diskette one, two, etc. Very confusing to try and see what you would do to install today, 2016, from a DVD. I'm sure you don't insert the DVD and use 'dd' to move the image into some drive...
SystemD, so what. Their was a hue and cry when SCO moved from ye ancient tried and tested Unix boot, init and structure tree of SCO 3 to the "new" system 5. Today, that system 5, old init system is being replaced by something more modern. And one day, systemd will be replaced by something even slicker - and there will be hue and cry again.
I used to love Slackware. Timely releases, no dependency hell, and very simple package management.
There was never a problem with their package management...simple tgz files with an install script onsite, and there were multiple tiny 3rd party utils to manage versions and uninstalls. It really was great for being able to have a minimal system, know exactly what was on it, and just be able to understand it perfectly.
A couple of years ago, this changed. It was now not only recommended to do a full install, but support was not required UNLESS people did a full install, at least by most of the community.
This is frustrating. Slackware started out as being the most unix like Linux. Something it has clearly abandoned...when installing mplayer REQUIRES installing Samba, just in case you need to play a file across an SMB share.
They are not targeting the same audience, and instead are targeting the audience of distros like Ubuntu...except they won't ever win. I don't know what niche they serve anymore, aside from brand loyalists.
Arch seemed like a good replacement, but it is bleeding edge only. So, I've gone to the BSD side. I would love for Slackware to do a course correction, but that seems unlikely.
If you ignore ACs because they are anonymous - you're an idiot.
Slackware was the first distro I ever installed. Back in 1996 I managed to install it on a 486 DX 50. I had no clue what I was getting into and when I was finally able to startx, I ended up in TWM. I was like "huh?" I temporarily ditched Slackware and pursued other distros while immersing myself in research and learning. After flirtations with Turbo Linux and SUSE (YAST really got my attention), I had learned a lot and went back to Slackware. It was my go to distro for a very long time. On the one hand, I still call it my favorite distro. On the other hand, I haven't seriously used it in a very long time after it became cumbersome relative to all the newcomers that followed. Perhaps I will give this a spin.
As far as SystemD goes, I don't care one way or another. With SystemD (I know I will get down modded for this, but I'm still not posting AC) I can use every last utility I have ever used to scour init, and I don't mind parallel initialization. In fact I think it's pretty cool. So whatever. But yeah, Slackware is awesome.
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Its like they are not even trying. Python 3.5 is perfectly okay.
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Although I've been using it less and less for the past couple of years, Slackware remains my favorite Linux distribution. Ohter distributions simply became easier to install and maintain over the years. However, I'm considering moving back to Slackware, because that vile concoction called systemd is starting to infest every Linux distribution that is out there, with the exception of some of the more esoteric distributions. And truth be told, IMHO Slackware is the only "real" Linux distribution left.
The first Slackware version I installed was 3.2, I still have the CD box lying around somewhere. I got it from the father of a friend of mine and couldn't install it at home, because all I had was a very old 286 (yeah, it's lame I know; it did run Minix for a while though, that was fun too). Although that soon changed, I got permission at the university to use a PC in one of the project rooms to install and learn Linux. That was an interesting time for me. For a while I even walked around with a Linux installation on a very portable medium: a ZIP floppy (this was before ZIPSlack). While everyone was doing their programming excercises on Windows (or rather in a DOS box in Windows 95), I had full access to a development environment that I could take with me and simply insert into lab computer and work on them. And then, when I got home I could simply do the same and work on them some more. Those were interesting times!
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Their website hasn't changed for... ever! Which is why people like it I guess...
Attention all users of ecryptfs: Slackware 14.2 provides the Linux Kernel 4.4.14 which introduces a regression in ecryptfs. Encrypted directories - e.g. your encrypted home directory - are not accessible with this kernel. Also, the provided fixed ecryptfs module in the testing directory doesn't work. See http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/can%27t-access-ecryptfs-with-kernel-4-4-14-a-4175583163/ï
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Bloatware is for toy OS's.
...that would be introduced in a major version change.
Aka. The most aged.
UNIX systems also have a migration over time unfortunately for the most part UNIX was beat out by Linux. However MacOS X is a UNIX system. And Solaris was Turning to be more Linux like.
What we see as Real UNIX like is just out nostalgia for the old systems ignoring the modern trade offs that has happened to deal with today's computing demands.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I've just started twiddling with xubuntu after years of windows exclusivity, I don't get why this systemd thing is in use if its so bad?
Debian, Fedora, and Redhat are not.
Similarly, with Tails you should use this version.
https://kat.cr/tails-1-4-1-i386-iso-multilang-tntvillage-t10922671.html
http://lsuzvpko6w6hzpnn.onion/tails-1-4-1-i386-iso-multilang-tntvillage-t10922671.html
http://i.imgur.com/QLGyQYf.jpg
Put it on a USB easily with this.
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
This is a distro based on ubuntu 10.04, right?
Don't take it as a joke. My system boots faster with Slackware than the OS(naming it won't be good) with systemd.