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BlackBerry's 'Classic' Smartphone Is About to Disappear (fortune.com)

From a Reuters report:The beleaguered tech company continues its shift to software. BlackBerry will stop making its Classic smartphone, 18 months after launching it in an effort to entice users who prefer physical, rather than touch, keyboards, the Canadian technology company said on Tuesday. The Classic was launched early last year, with a physical keyboard in the vein of its Bold predecessor and powered by the company own overhauled BlackBerry 10 operating system. BlackBerry has since launched a phone powered by Alphabet's Android software and plans several more, and BlackBerry Chief Executive John Chen last month expressed confidence the company's trimmed-down handset business can turn a profit by a self-imposed September deadline.

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  1. It's Like by invictusvoyd · · Score: 5, Funny

    McDonald's will stop making burgers and now sell burritos.

    1. Re:It's Like by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well if most of the American population suddenly stopped eating burgers and instead ate burritos, it would be a sensible business move. However, it's questionable how many people would start eating at McDonald's again, considering their competence is in burgers (if you like McD's burgers), not burritos. Usually, when this happens, the business ends up failing. Trying to belatedly "join the crowd" is probably the best course of action at that point, but it's still usually futile.

    2. Re:It's Like by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      This is more like when MickeyD's stopped using styrofoam containers for their burgers and instead went with paper containers... still the same crap inside, just a different package on the outside.

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    3. Re:It's Like by gachunt · · Score: 1

      Or a bunch of Americans said they preferred burgers to burritos, so McDonald's brought back burgers to appease that market-demand.

      ... but charged 2-3 times as much for the burger

      ... and they didn't taste as good because people were now used to the taste of burritos and expected better.

    4. Re: It's Like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad Blackberry is Canadian then.

    5. Re:It's Like by tripleevenfall · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, if you're being paid to run a McDonald's and are just flailing - trying to find any revenue stream at all to keep the store open another week or two... you'll try burritos.

    6. Re:It's Like by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      it's more like "same package, different crap. still crap."

    7. Re: It's Like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they fire all of the ethnicities are are willing to put in a hard day's work, who will do it?

    8. Re:It's Like by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      McDonald's will stop making burgers and now sell burritos.

      There's a big sign on the McDonald's on Prospect Ave that says they now sell something called a "Lobster Roll". Draw your own conclusions.

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    9. Re:It's Like by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      Actually, McDonald's already tried burritos. The Mac Snack Wrap.

    10. Re: It's Like by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      NIGGERS

      We have our first confirmed case of the rare disease, Slashdot Tourettes.

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    11. Re: It's Like by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Rare? More like endemic.

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    12. Re: It's Like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that Blackberry is a Canadian company, don't you?

    13. Re: It's Like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like the physical keyboard over a touchscreen one. I also prefer a larger screen over the physical keyboard...

    14. Re:It's Like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's Carl's Jr.

    15. Re:It's Like by LMariachi · · Score: 1

      McDonald's does make burritos.

    16. Re:It's Like by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      They cant do their own OS, it was too expensive and was damaging the company. When they can get the enormous android ecosystem for basically free, its a no brainer for them to join the android ecosystem. If they had done this years ago when everyone else did, they wouldnt be in the fix they are in. IT was the blackberry OS that was really doing in the company.

    17. Re: It's Like by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

      The solution is to build a wall.

  2. Why aren't they making the Classic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a full unix compatible qwerty physical keyboard and android and selling it to nerds, devs, and sysadmins who need a remote computing device with a proper physical keyboard (even if we have to use function keys to get the full range of keys on their text message oriented keyboard?

    I was noticing this with a bluetooth keyboard I got to use with my android bar-phone the other day. Despite being an 86 key keyboard, they had omitted overloads for a variety of important keys, notable page up and page down, which made using terminal apps without touching the phone difficult, since many console apps expect you to be able to use PGUP/DWN for scrolling purposes.

    As simply another bar phone manufacturer I foresee BB shutting down by the end of the year if not sooner.

    1. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Is there a potential market for a palmtop phone for sysadmins? I mean should I be starting something on kickstarter/indiegogo?

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    2. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget all the different kinds of braces and not turning them into emoji when we use them. The pipe key is vital, tab is important, and esc is nice. Alt and Ctrl modifiers are important (especially ctrl). EMACS users will likely perform sex acts for additional modifiers (Super/Hyper). We'll need an SSH app that understands all of these modifiers

    3. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a full unix compatible qwerty physical keyboard and android and selling it to nerds, devs, and sysadmins who need a remote computing device with a proper physical keyboard (even if we have to use function keys to get the full range of keys on their text message oriented keyboard?

      It is called the BlackBerry Priv running BlackBerry Android. It has a slider physical keyboard although the ESCape key is missing which is annoying. Fortunately there are text editors (vi/vim) and secure shell clients available as apps for BlackBerry Android so it is still possible and enjoyable to use the BlackBerry Priv for *nix related tasks. I use it daily.

    4. Re: Why aren't they making the Classic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the market for people who want that is understandably tiny

    5. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      with my android bar-phone

      What's a bar phone? I use my usual phone at the bar. I hadn't considered getting a separate one just for the bar.

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    6. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      I had a terminal program on android that did these things. I forget the name.
      I've since become beappled and I don't have a terminal program on iOS that comes close.

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    7. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      With a full unix compatible qwerty physical keyboard and android and selling it to nerds, devs, and sysadmins who need a remote computing device with a proper physical keyboard (even if we have to use function keys to get the full range of keys on their text message oriented keyboard?

      It is called the BlackBerry Priv running BlackBerry Android. It has a slider physical keyboard although the ESCape key is missing which is annoying. Fortunately there are text editors (vi/vim) and secure shell clients available as apps for BlackBerry Android so it is still possible and enjoyable to use the BlackBerry Priv for *nix related tasks. I use it daily.

      We (me & my wife) missed the old BB keyboards. We tried the priv keyboard in the store. It was not the same. It was not as good. We didn't buy it.

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    8. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a terminal program on android that did these things. I forget the name.
      I've since become beappled and I don't have a terminal program on iOS that comes close.

      Do what things?

      There are a bunch of Terminal Apps on the iOS App Store.

      ProTip: Use the Categories filter to filter for "Utilities" to cut WAY down on the search noise.

    9. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      In this instance it had a bunch of screen buttons for esc, meta, ctrl-d, |, ~, arrow keys etc.
      I haven't seen it again. If I charged my old android phone I could find the name.

      I don't dispute that these things might exist in iOS. I failed to find them once, but it's not a day to day thing for me. I have a laptop most of the time.

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    10. Re:Why aren't they making the Classic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they obviously weren't selling enough of these edge cases to make it worthwhile, so therefore, they've stopped...

  3. BlackBerry Is About to Disappear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFY

  4. Simple way out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just sell the business to Microsoft and increase their market share tenfold. Everybody should be happy :)

    1. Re: Simple way out by spectrum- · · Score: 1

      Microsoft already ruined Nokia they may as well ruin what's left of Blackberry.
      Microsoft kinda has the opposite of a Midas touch with mobile phone devices.

      Shame really as despite Nokia having an increasingly untidy ux with Symbian, it was better in many ways than anything we have now. Certainly it multitasked extremely well and things like Nokia Beta Labs had cool stuff like the sleeping screen which was just very intelligent use of technology.

      I don't think Blackberry was innovating in the way Nokia was up to its last phones as much as trying to cup the water of old successes in its hands, always a futile and diminishing problem.

      Too little too late with both companies. For nokia it was slow to fix it's ux to keep up with Apple and a persisting with resistive screens instead of capacitive. For blackberry it was a reliance on its messaging and taking wild stabs at markets without a cohesive plan. Blackberry playbook for example, what a mess esp for developers.

      I hope Blackberry can find itself and Nokia plans to rise again with new phones after MS. But I fear both will be rejoining a very cramped and changed market. Nothing short of revolutionary levels of innovation and desirability will bring either back to the levels of Apple and Samsung and upstarts like Huawei.

  5. Hope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope getting rid of Christianity - and God doing it for personal reasons - the same way NBC cancels TV series.

  6. Rename it by PmanAce · · Score: 1

    I heard scientists had given it a latin name: BlackBerry 'Raphus cucullatus'. Lets see if anyone gets it...

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    1. Re:Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The dodo is an extinct flightless bird that was endemic to the island of Mauritius, east of Madagascar in the Indian Ocean. The species died out before 1700, less than a hundred years after encountering men.

    2. Re:Rename it by PmanAce · · Score: 1

      You forgot to say "What is...".

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  7. Lack of vision; disturbing and costly by OfficeLackey · · Score: 1

    Blackberry is once again paying for their lack of vision. They have lost their way and are slowly dying a public death. They are the "Old Yeller" of the tech industry. It is said to see them suffer and we all wish someone would just put them out of their misery.

    1. Re:Lack of vision; disturbing and costly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actuary is you mericans wid bad vision. BrackBerry is besd producd liek Moder M Keyboard. Tark to us when you touchscreen not work anymoh.

      Ps: you get red firetruck.

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  8. Bold + Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still don't want the damn on-screen smudge-keys that every other vendor seems to require, and the Priv missed the mark with that top-heavy slide-out design. Just give me a taller Bold with a move-pad, four Blackberry Buttons, and a real keyboard. I'll gladly pay a few hundred for it.

    I still can't figure out why my Android closes its music player mid-podcast without saving my place.

    1. Re:Bold + Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just give me a taller Bold with a move-pad, four Blackberry Buttons, and a real keyboard. I'll gladly pay a few hundred for it.

      So... you'd gladly pay less that it costs to make?

  9. It's a "what year is it?" design. by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Looking at the Classic, I can see clearly why it failed. It's like something from a decade ago. Sure, it's good to have a keyboard, but not at the expense of the screen! They got it right with the Priv and its sliding keyboard, that one is something I'd consider if I were thinking of buying a smartphone now.

    1. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had the opposite reaction. Can't stand the look and style of the Priv, but love the old, solid look of the Classic.

    2. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by danomac · · Score: 1

      I thought they meant the Classic phone for right-handed users only. I never got into the Blackberry crazy to begin with as the phone's ergonomics as a left-handed person was awful. Stupid thumb wheel.

      After I experienced that stupid design I never, ever looked at Blackberry phones again. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

    3. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slider phones were dead in 2011. In 2016 they're as dead as Blackberry itself.

      The keyboard module would be thicker than the smartphone itself. People really, really, underestimate just how beneficial monolithic construction is. No hinges, holes, inter-board flex, moving parts

      Know what would impress me? A sealed phone with /no/ ports at all. Waterproof, rugged, cheap. Chassis molded on at time of manufacture. You could take in to the pool with you and you'd never need cables again. (Wireless charging, bluetooth audio, etc)

      You'd need to come up with some sort of NFC based low level communications scheme for fallback/debug/initialization and there would be some battery tech issues to solve. (Batteries tend to expand and outgass when they fail. You'd probably need a safety blowoff valve)

    4. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Except that a smartphone hides much of that screen space when it pops up a touch sensitive keyboard. The blackberry classic actually looks like it has the same amount of screen space that my phone has when sending email. Basically I can't send email on my phone since it lacks a competent textual input device, a reasonable amount of screen space, find control over cursor placement, and so forth. At least with the Blackberry there's actual tactile feed back that you're on the right key so that you're not relying on a bad spell checker to fix up your typos as much.

    5. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by ControlsGeek · · Score: 1

      No thumbwheel on the Classic. If more people knew this Blackberry would be booming.

    6. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      There are Android phones with physical keyboards just like the Blackberry. So the choice is not between having a physical keyboard and not having one. The choice is actually between having a phone with many apps on it and having a phone with very few.

    7. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      To me number of apps is irrelevant. Apple may have millions of apps but there are only a handful worth getting (even the free ones). There's the business phone, the productivity phone, but everyone's buying the social networking phone.

    8. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "There are Android phones with physical keyboards just like the Blackberry." Yeah and one of them is a Blackberry.

    9. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      Yes, but my iPhone reclaims that space when I'm not sending email.

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    10. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      There's the business phone, the productivity phone, but everyone's buying the social networking phone.

      Why distinguish? I've made a good living with my iPhone as my business and productivity phone, and my social networking phone for the commute home.

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    11. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      Many phones had a HUGE screen with a pop out keyboard on the side. This was one of the smartest things id seen.

    12. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      A pop out physical keyboard wont make the screen smaller, it pops out from the side of the phone.

    13. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Looking at the Classic, I can see clearly why it failed. It's like something from a decade ago. Sure, it's good to have a keyboard, but not at the expense of the screen! They got it right with the Priv and its sliding keyboard, that one is something I'd consider if I were thinking of buying a smartphone now.

      My experience of the priv keyboard was that the keys didn't work right. I remember the BB keys being convex and it was easy for your fingers to glom onto the center of the key. The priv keys felt convex and didn't give the right feedback.

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    14. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shut the fuck up.

    15. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, hi, Hillary.

    16. Re: It's a "what year is it?" design. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot.

  10. Will miss it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was sorry to see the news of the Classic being retired. I had hoped to buy one this coming winter (maybe a x-mas gift to myself) as using an Android with no keyboard has been driving me nuts. The Classic is the only sanely priced with-a-keyboard phone I could find. Now it's being retired, so I'll have to go elsewhere for my purchase.

    The only reason to buy a Blackberry these days is the physical keyboard. The company seems to be trying to kill itself off by phasing out the Q-series and now the Classic.

  11. Way to become irrelevant by holophrastic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, no blackberry OS, no blackberry keyboard, the same rectangle screen as everyone else, the same OS as everyone else. So what's left? The pretty logo? Congrats. Another messaging app? Watch me care. Secure? Bullshit of course. So much for pride. Ready for the fall.

    1. Re:Way to become irrelevant by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      Tryinbg to do their own OS was killing the company. This was a major reason that they were getting nowhere. They cant benefit from the google app ecosystem. Too much inertia behind Android than to try to compete with it. When they can go android for free, it makes no sense to do their own OS. They could if they want do their own UI on android. A popout key board is a great idea which is what they should do, wont reduce the area for the screen since the keyboard pops out from the side.

  12. BB10 by acoustix · · Score: 1

    It's the best mobile OS that no one is using. Sad. 100% gesture based - no buttons needed.

    I love my Z10, but I'll probably be moving to the Priv soon.

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    1. Re:BB10 by xystren · · Score: 1

      I agree with you there, I'm on a Q10 and absolutely love it. They really did well with the Q10 keyboard. I didn't really like the feel of the Priv, but it was usable. My biggest issue most modern phones is the damn touch screen. Half the time the touch doesn't respond as it should, or it responds with the wrong key response. There is something to be said for the good, tactile response keyboard. I will miss that BB OS 10 when I eventually need to upgrade.

    2. Re:BB10 by aduxorth · · Score: 1

      Ditto, I just wish I could get a Priv that is not sold through Friggen optus in Australia.

  13. Don't really care by neminem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sure, I suppose, as someone who really likes physical keyboards, it's technically sad that we just lost another one, but I don't care that much, on grounds of a. Blackberry OS rather than Android, and b. keyboards should slide out in landscape mode, not portrait mode. So I would never personally buy one of those anyway.

    But when I can no longer find any Android phones with proper slider keyboards to replace my current one when it dies... I will be pretty pissed at that point.

    1. Re:Don't really care by HeadSoft · · Score: 1

      I feel your pain. I just had to upgrade from my aging Droid 4 (with a pretty nice hardware keyboard.) I ended up going with a bluetooth keyboard/case for a Note 5. Not quite the same, but apparently the only viable option for hardware keyboard junkies who also like modern phones.

  14. stupid Blackberry's board by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's sad when company doesn't stick to thing which they mastered and got right. Poor management. Miss my Bold.

  15. Should have gone android years ago by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

    Its unbelievable that they didnt move to Android years ago given they get app compatability with the enormous android ecosystem, for free. Trying to develop their own OS was insane. The company would be in better shape had it done this years ago. I think the min keyboard idea is also good, after using on screen keyboards, i cannot believe there is no demand for a physical one.

  16. My sister wanted one so badly by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    My sister was dying for one of these. She is a huge BB fan. She contacted her telco when they first came out and they said, "We don't even know if we are getting them let alone when." She called around to other providers and they would only sell her one with an uber premium super deluxe extra plan. Effectively they wanted about $700 for the phone.

    So she contacted BB and managed to get a fairly senior person who pretty much told her that their priority relationship was with the telcos not the consumer.

    She very much enjoys her Android now.

    It is not amazing that BB shot themselves in the foot. Most companies occasionally do that, but that they have just not stopped shooting themselves in the foot. I love how they got into fights with foreign governments over data privacy but then just handed the keys over to the RCMP.

    Their appstore might have been one of the hardest to use and must have been inspired by a Soviet Era grocery store. But best of all is that they let the telcos and the "enterprise" users turn off any features that made the phone enjoyable at all. They might have thought that they were catering to their "enterprise" users but by pissing off every user of their phones did they not realize that some of the people who they were pissing off were the ones who picked which platform was purchase? So yes the IT people might have felt all powerful being able to set a complicated security profile. But they don't have the last stay on a company's budget.

    BTW Apple is going hard into the enterprise market and is making it easier and easier for the IT department to turn the phone into a turd. Let's see how that works out for them.

    1. Re:My sister wanted one so badly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You'd think the sister of the Emperor of Canada would get better treatment from a Canadian company.

    2. Re:My sister wanted one so badly by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

      > But best of all is that they let the telcos and the "enterprise" users turn off any features that made the phone enjoyable at all

      That misses the point of BB10. Sure, they can turn those features off when the user is on their "business account", but they can (or should be able to) still use them when using their personal account. And they can switch back and forth easily.

      I thought it was a great idea. Still do. Implementation? Not so much. But a dual-SIM iPhone or Android with such a system? Still seems like a great idea to me.