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New Study Shows Why Big Pharma Hates Medical Marijuana (washingtonpost.com)

HughPickens.com writes: Christopher Ingraham writes in the Washington Post that a new study shows that painkiller abuse and overdose are significantly lower in states with medical marijuana laws and that when medical marijuana is available, pain patients are increasingly choosing pot over powerful and deadly prescription narcotics. The researchers "found that, in the 17 states with a medical-marijuana law in place by 2013, prescriptions for painkillers and other classes of drugs fell sharply compared with states that did not have a medical-marijuana law... In medical-marijuana states, the average doctor prescribed 265 fewer doses of antidepressants each year, 486 fewer doses of seizure medication, 541 fewer anti-nausea doses and 562 fewer doses of anti-anxiety medication. But most strikingly, the typical physician in a medical-marijuana state prescribed 1,826 fewer doses of painkillers in a given year."

[P]ainkiller drug companies "have long been at the forefront of opposition to marijuana reform, funding research by anti-pot academics and funneling dollars to groups, such as the Community Anti-Drug Coalitions of America, that oppose marijuana legalization..."

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  1. Companies shouldn't have political power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, their voices need to be heard, but companies ought not to become politically powerful entities. They are there to make money, produce goods, and make our lives better, not to tell us how to live.

    1. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Companies will have power as long as they can make political donations.

    2. Re: Companies shouldn't have political power by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Bernie called for the immediate removal of pot from the Controlled Substances Act, which would effectively legalize pot at a federal level.

      The DNC platform language calls for a "pathway toward legalization", which is, of course, vague enough to be fairly meaningless and unenforceable against HRC once in office. And it barely passed, 81-80.

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    3. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Informative

      We tried that. The net effect was that corporations don't donate to politicians anymore but they found a branch and employ said politician as a consultant and pay him for consulting. Which led to an interesting bonmot in a trial for corruption around here where a politician asked his "employer": "Uh, hey, say, what was my service to you again?"

      Yes, our politicians are even too stupid to be properly corrupt.

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    4. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The solution is for the people to wake up and pay attention to what their government is doing.

      Any "solution" that is premised on changing human nature is not a solution at all.

    5. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do not know what my best interest is.

      There's a 99% chance that your best interest doesn't involve letting politicians get bribed. Some things are obvious for the vast majority of us.

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    6. Re: Companies shouldn't have political power by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. Moderates like Obama have very little opposition.

      But he got a 'half way to universal healthcare measure' through congress, where a universal healthcare measure would not get through.
      With luck the next administration will get though the 'single payer' option, which will in the style of Zeno's paradox get 50% of the remaining way to universal healthcare.

      In time an incremental approach works. The all-in-one approach rarely succeeds.

      I'll take an pragmatic incrementer over someone calling for a revolution that will never happen.
       

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    7. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "And the solution is?"

      I like the proposal that has been floated to make all politicians wear their corporate sponsor logos on their suits every day, like NASCAR drivers.

    8. Re:Companies shouldn't have political power by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      *shrug* then there's no solution.

      Sure there is. Some countries are far more corrupt than others. But the difference is not in the people. People in Venezuela are no different from people in Denmark. The difference is in the laws and institutions. In corrupt countries, these are designed to facilitate corruption. In clean countries, they are designed to inhibit it.

      In America, when I apply for a business license, the law says that the clerk "will issue" when I pay the standard fee, which is posted on a public website. In corrupt countries, the clerk "may issue" and has much more discretion to delay and obstruct. In America, the clerk sits at a public window, and my transaction is in full view of the other people waiting in line. When I applied for a business license in China, I was escorted by the clerk to a private office, where "expediting fees" were discussed out of sight and hearing of the next applicant. The system there is designed to be corrupt.

  2. Re:Doses, not prescriptions. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The numbers here are doses, not prescriptions. Keep that in mind, folks. Not nearly as big a reduction as the blurb is trying to make it sound like.

    The study says the drop is greatest in states with legal MM, but implies there is a drop in other states as well. That information (the drop in other states) is conspicuously missing. What, then, is the reason overall for that drop? Also, since is a drop in prescriptions, maybe they could ask a few doctors why they are prescribing less. In some states like FL, there has been major crackdowns on excessive pain killer prescription writing.

  3. One of five big industries by transporter_ii · · Score: 5, Informative

    Big Pharma is only one of five industries spending big money to keep it illegal. The rest are aggravating, too. Private prisons, prison guard unions, and actual law enforcement are also involved. Law enforcement should just enforce the laws, in my opinion. They should not be involved in lobbying for or against them, though.

    http://www.republicreport.org/...

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    1. Re:One of five big industries by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Dont forget the alcohol lobby.

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  4. Candy by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wife had damaged the occipital nerve on the left side of her head in an accident. She had excruciating pain from this and went repeatedly to various doctors trying to get some help. They handed out hydrocodone and oxycodone like it was candy. After exhausting all options locally she was sent to a pain center. Their answer? More pills. I remember sitting there with a humongous bottle of hydrocodone and told her if you take all this shit it's going to kill you. I got her in to the pain clinic at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta and the doctor there did a nerve ablation that gave her relief from the pain. It came back and she had to have further treatment but the last 3 years have been pain free. It seems that if doctors can't figure what to do they just throw pills at it.

  5. Big pharmas hate it! by Z80a · · Score: 5, Funny

    Learn about the secret all natural plant that might get you off anti-depressants and painkillers that the big pharmas don't want you to know!

  6. Where are big pharma's recreational drugs? by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Where are big pharma's recreational drugs? The ones they engineer from the ground up to provide a pleasant, short-term euphoria with designed-in features to prevent overdose, mitigate overconsumption and abuse, and cheap enough that they could be priced lower than mass-produced marijuana?

    I would kind of expect that somebody, somewhere would figure out that this would not only be big business but good public policy. Punitive measures to inhibit use of the existing classes of recreational drugs hasn't worked, so why not engineer alternatives that mimic those highs but minus as much of the negative side effects as possible?

    The current class of recreational drugs have all kinds of nasty side effects, addictions, overdose deaths, corrosive physical effects, hangovers, and all the social problems they produce. Marijuana isn't bad in comparison to most, but even it still has the lingering stupor and the smoking aspect.

    You would think that the bright guys in the lab would be able to come up with something new that minimized the negatives while still giving people something that would dissuade most people from bothering with the legacy highs.

  7. Re:Can't wait by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, like I said, we are going to need new laws, not new "free trade" agreements. The criminal corporate overlords need to be taxed into submission, broken up into smaller companies and regulated until they scream Uncle!

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  8. Companies donate to campaigns. A lot. by XXongo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Companies will have power as long as they can make political donations.

    Companies in the US already have strong restrictions on "political donations".

    They may have "restrictions"-- but they find ways to donate anyway. Nice thing about corporations; they have lawyers to find the loopholes.

    Here's the top contributors list from OpenSecrets.org: https://www.opensecrets.org/or...

    What they can do is communicate on issues.

    Yes, that's the biggest loophole: the Political Action Committee ("PAC"). It's "supposed" to be to "communicate issues". Every candidate has one.
    "Political contributions, which used to go directly to candidates, now often flow to Super PACs, independent organizations that can raise money to either help or defeat a political candidate. Historically, traditional political action committees have been prohibited from accepting donations from unions and companies. However, following rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court and the Court of Appeals, Super PACs are now allowed to accept unlimited donations from unions and companies, provided the money does not go directly to the campaign.
    The rise of the Super PAC has opened the door to a new generation of fundraising, changing how money is used to elect candidates and increasing the amount candidates need to raise to be competitive as they seek office.

    (source: http://247wallst.com/special-r... )

    So, are you going to start massively censoring speech by companies? How exactly is that going to work? Does "company" include the New York Times, or only companies you don't like?

    A start would be a law mandating that money donated to political action committees has to be disclosed: if you're funding political campaigns, you have to do it openly, not secretly. This wouldn't even require overturning the Citizen's United decision: the Supreme court already said that this would be legal.

  9. Not a good track record by XXongo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where are big pharma's recreational drugs? The ones they engineer from the ground up to provide a pleasant, short-term euphoria with designed-in features to prevent overdose, mitigate overconsumption and abuse, and cheap enough that they could be priced lower than mass-produced marijuana?

    Drug manufacturers have a poor track record on that.

    In the 1800s, they noticed that opium worked as an analgesic, but had people using it simply for pleasure. So they engineered a new drug to just have the analgesic properties, and named it "morphine."

    That didn't work. It had a bad side effect: people who took opium or morphine experienced a side effect where they started craving it, called "opium appetite". So, pharmacies thought, well, we need to find a deliver it without the people eating it-- it could be delivered directly to the body, so people wouldn't have the craving (how could you have a craving for something you don't even taste?) So they invented needle injection to solve the opium appetite problem.

    That didn't work. Opium and morphine both turned out to be addictive, so they developed a new drug to solve that. This one they name it "heroin".

    That turned out to be even worse. So they went completely synthetic to make a new painkiller which didn't trace to the opium flower: Oxycodone.

    That turned out to be even more addictive...

  10. Re: Companies donate to campaigns. A lot. by BronsCon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Basically, I think, what the AC you were replying to is calling for is open discussion of the spirit of the law, the letter of the law, and the ways in which the two disagree, coupled with making it illegal to do things that technically follow the letter while violating the spirit. Applied evenly, that's actually a very sound idea; for example, it would mean no more tickets for doing the regular posted speed limit past a school when school is in session and all children are inside the building, because the spirit of the law is to protect children (who aren't in danger when you're going more than 20MPH past a building they happen to be inside of) while the letter allows you to get slammed for it.

    Treason is, perhaps, a bit harsh, but I suppose it would depend on the nature of the law being twisted. For example, in the case of a law you're being prosecuted for violating, if it's a minor crime and/or it wasn't publicized at all, simply dropping the charges and paying 3x lost wages and legal costs should suffice; if it was made public or is a major crime that may affect your ability to find housing or work in the future, ongoing yearly payments of 10x the mean salary might be in order. That would serve as a deterrent against bullshit arrests and prosecution and lead to more common-sense enforcement of the law, which is something that needs to be highlighted in order to get votes, especially when the people doing the voting (e.g. politicians) benefit from at least one class of the loopholes being discussed.

    As for crimes you commit, which is what the AC was talking about (clearly you understand this, I'm just clarifying that I do as well) that's a much longer discussion. Perhaps too long for a single Slashdot post, but I think it would be interesting nonetheless, if you wish to pursue it.

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