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How The Internet Helps Sex Workers Keep Customers Honest (qz.com)
HughPickens.com writes: Mid-range prostitution is a relatively new market, enabled by technology. Before the internet, it was hard for escorts to find customers: They had to either walk the streets searching for customers, rely on word-of-mouth, or work with agencies. The internet changed all that as Allison Schrager writes at Quartz that if you work at Goldman Sachs in NYC and you want to tie up a woman and then have sex with her, you'll first have to talk to Rita. Rita will "insist on calling your office, speaking to the switchboard operator, and being patched through to your desk. Then she will want to check out your profile on the company website and LinkedIn. She'll demand you send her message from your work email, and require a scan of either your passport or driver's license." Though some escorts rely on sex work-specific sites that maintain "bad date" lists of potentially dangerous clients, others make use of more mainstream sources to gather information about and verify the identities of potential johns. Rita is addressing a problem that every business, both legal and illegal, has. Before the internet, more commerce occurred locally -- customers knew their merchants or service providers and went back to them repeatedly. As technology has expanded our transactional networks, it must also offer new ways of building trust and reputation. "The lesson here is that, while you'd think all the technological options for finding customers would make Rita's job as a madam obsolete, it has actually made her services more critical," says Schrager. "One step ahead of the mainstream economy, Rita's thriving business shows that some jobs won't disappear. They just need to be recast in a way that capitalizes on what made them valuable in the first place."
Call a "switchboard operator"? "patched through" to your desk? What is this, 1946? The mid/highclass hookers aren't asking their customers for identification. Who writes this garbage?
Enough with sexual exploitation of men. These cunts hardly worth the money they are asking.
If you want to know who exploit who, look at the direction money take. Stop being a feminist apologist.
The joke's on you, many of them are paid handsomely for exactly that.
and covered in delicious hot grits.
when will git get some self respect and lose that vulnerability that messes with gcc?
A girlfriend / wife doing this would be creepy. No way some prostitute is. Scanning a passport? Bullshit.
There are porn sites that require ID absolutely to model and unless you want to pay through the roof in fees, they want your bank information for tokens. That information isn't given to members nor does anyone call your employer. And you can still use a credit card / wire transfer. Then again if you're dumb enough to share that... well..
Whatever you're on Beau, lower the dosage :)
can afford a top-of-the-line Dubai porta potty without an invasive background check.
We have the highest number of 18-24 year olds in America with no job and a HS education or below. 60% are woman. With the insane college debt crisis we should be finding ways to educate and train woman for the workforce not promote prostitution. Proposition is a man's dream. The reality is increased prostitution is a bad sign for a society. Oakland is the human trafficking capital of America. In San Fran the politicians bicker over soda tax while the cops smoke cigarettes on the corner. Let's not promote abuse towards woman on tech sites.
Count me in. Selling sex makes good money, but I bet you could make even more with blackmail!
"Dignity" is a made up, fake concept.
Nevertheless, if it will make you feel better, I *promise* you I'll try to keep your comment in mind when I'm buying my new red Ferrari.
Can... can I piss on your Ferrari? I promise not to moan too much while doing it... oh, who am I kidding, I will moan as loud as I want, because I won't tell you when I am doing it :)
"Would you suck my dick for a million dollars?"
"Yes. A million dollars will buy a lot of mouthwash."
And you'll pay for pissing on that ferrari through insurance premiums going up as a result of the insurance claim (damage to paint work and interior) changing the risk profile for your locality.
The redbook website was THE place for this activity. That plus its associate, pinkbook. Unfortunately it got shutdown by the FBI for various crimes as it made a profit.
Has there been anything since redbook to fill in that void?
I didn't get past the summary which for me is rare. It's like some weird Penthouse Forum story, written by a person who is completely oblivious to reality and no experience or knowledge of prostitution. I mean, they could have paid a real prostitute money to interview them, but instead they just made shit up. Really stupid shit at that.
Usually there is a purpose for this kind of trash, but in this case I'm really stumped. Maybe they think they will normalize people giving hookers info by making elaborately false claims?
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
You'd probably suck a million dicks for free, anyway
Is this the best you can find to post on slashdot, the technology site?
Joke's on you, I can't afford to even live near the ferrari owner's zip code.
If I did, it would be my impression of you.
Hughpickens writes
"and you want to tie up a woman and then have sex with her, you'll first have to talk to Rita."
The article actually reads:
"you want to be tied up by a woman and then have sex with her"
I don't know but I think we're talking about different specialists here aren't we?
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If someone's dignity is on the line it's the customers, not the workers.
Except the piss goes on them, and all of them paid handsomely with their dignity.
You know you're a primate right?
Yeah OK there is NO FUCKING WAY I'd jump through even 1 of those hoops just to smash some puss. These guys must be autists on the highest level who can't get a girl the regular way.
Rita's job is not obsolete but what she does can fairly easily be replicated with a script.
You can't handle the truth.
Episode 4.
"Common sense will be the death of us all"
Rita's job is not obsolete but what she does can fairly easily be replicated with a script.
Actually, it is surprising that everyone has missed the fact that, unless "Rita" works in Nevada, she is breaking the law, no matter how she is vetting her clients or how she does her business.. Ill put it another way..
Selling pussy is only legal in Nevada if you are in the US.
Why am I reading this? What happened to my life?
I didn't go through that level of background checks when I got married ...
Actually, it is surprising that everyone has missed the fact that, unless "Rita" works in Nevada, she is breaking the law, no matter how she is vetting her clients or how she does her business.
She's not selling pussy, she's selling 'quality time together.' And she's not selling it, she's probably getting paid a flat rate to be a go-between.
The /. summary says "... if you work at Goldman Sachs in NYC and you want to tie up a woman and then have sex with her ..."
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/. editing?
The linked article says "... If you work at Goldman Sachs in a major US city and you want to be tied up by a woman and then have sex with her
That's a substantial difference. Who changed what, and when? Is that poor
Your organs should pay for the damage, don't worry.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
"Would you suck me off for a million?"
"Uh... sure!"
"Would you suck me off for a nickle?"
"Hell no, do you think I am a whore?"
"We have established that you are already, we're just haggling for the price now".
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
...you don't work at Goldman Sachs?
You pissed on too many Ferraris?
C'mon this is Slashdot. At least try to keep it nerdy :
Ferengi Rule of Acquisition Number 109 : Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.
The Jewish agenda?
Jews run the pimp game too?
I've never solicited a prostitute.
But it seems like a better deal than all the money I give my wife.
Laws do not really matter anymore, do they?
Everyone speeds after all, and no-one cares about that.
So it is with sex services, people all over the world are breaking whatever sexual regulation may be present, and few people really care.
That is the point of having so many laws, so that people stop caring, start breaking, thus there is always something the state can hold over anyone - unless you are rich or well-connected, so the upper class does not have to suffer the effects of laws that crush the general populace.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Damnit
Other people have debunked your numbers but something not debunked is the notion that all sex service are trafficking. Women being trafficked are actually a rainy minority of those selling sexual services (which ranges form escort to stripper to everything in between).
Being able to use your body as you see fit, including making money, is not a "man's dream" - it is the dream of humanity. If an athlete or model can make money from their body why not a sex worker (and remember we are not just talking women here, but men/women/other)? Just because YOU don't like it? Why should your views be forced on all the women of the world? In the end you are simply a misogynist pretending to care.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Now they are eyeball deep in the looting scandal that stole over $2.5 billion dollars out of the Malaysian economy.
So no matter how much fun it is for Wall Street types to tie up hookers, or be tied up by them, nothing comes close to egomaniac thrill of wrecking entire economies for profit. That's why they keep doing it over and over again.
BTW, one of the truly ironic features of this case is that some of the stolen money was used to fund the film The Wolf of Wall Street. You can't make this kind of shit up.
Why is Snark Required?
Ya think? Ya think the guys who are jumping through a bunch of hoops and then paying for it can't get it for free? I don't know, man. The logic just doesn't add up. I bet they could get it any time they wanted. They just don't want to.
"Would you marry an orange Oompa Loompa who had a billion dollars?"
"Of course, dahlink"
"Would you marry an orange Oompa Loompa who was broke?"
"Vat do you take me for?"
"We've already established that, now we're just negotiating."
[The Art of the Deal]
You are welcome on my lawn.
One thing I've learned in life is that guys who call it "smash some puss", very rarely get to smash any puss.
You are welcome on my lawn.
One thing I've learned in life is that guys who call it "smash some puss", very rarely get to smash any puss.
Yep. I was going to say that this guy sounds like a real smooth player, but then I started laughing and couldn't stop.
"Smash some puss" indeed, this is the mark of a loser who's probably never seen an actual woman naked.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Has there been anything since redbook to fill in that void?
Fetlife.
Ob Monty Python, nudge nudge wink wink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
It's 2016 already, where's my sex robot??
captcha: teased
They're rehiring Alison Rapp
I saw "smash some puss" live at the Greek last year. They have really gone downhill.
"One step ahead of the mainstream economy, Rita's thriving business shows that some jobs won't disappear. They just need to be recast in a way that capitalizes on what made them valuable in the first place."
This is imple, simple logic, and that most can't make that logical leap tells me the majority of purported 'experts' at this point in time are either too young to know better, incredibly naive or ignorant, or all of the above. This applies to bot technology, too. It's ludicrous to think that *every* job can be automated, and time WILL bear this truth out. I really don't think a lot of engineers and VCs are half as intelligent as they think they are.
if you don't want your dick to rot off or get mugged, you pay for a better class of escorts. It's not that complex. Both sides benefit from background checks. Of course, a bunch of basement dwellers don't realize that some people have standards.
orange Oompa Loompa... why not just call him Donald Trump?
Why would you think I was referring to Donald Trump?
You are welcome on my lawn.
References? Drivers Licenses?
That's nothing. Prostitutes have been taking DNA samples from their clients for centuries.
As the saying goes - you're not paying for sex, you're paying for her to go away afterwards.
I have a friend who is (was) a sex worker for a time. Being the curious sort, I asked her about the work, and what sort of guys she saw. There were, obviously, the creeps (the ones who kept trying to push boundaries, or tried to steal shit, or were just fucking weird.) Many of the guys, however, she said fell into a few categories:
1) Married / in a relationship, but sexually unhappy - the prostitute was a low-risk way of getting their dick tickled in the way they liked without having to worry about a crazy one-night stand coming back to haunt them;
2) Busy, and unable to pursue a regular relationship, so used the prostitute to satisfy the urge for a little contact & intimacy when they needed it;
3) "not traditionally great looking" (i.e., fat, old), and used the prostitute in much the same way as group #2 above;
Admittedly, this sample size is likely too small to be anything more than anecdotal evidence, but she said the majority of the guys she saw were relatively "normal" seeming guys.
So does this mean anyone who has a pee fetish is unworthy of respect? What other sexual practices disqualify one from having dignity - anything except missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation with the lights off?
Or is the real issue here that, after the piss goes on them, they take a shower and get on with their lives, having suffered no actual harm whatsoever, and that insults your sense of propriety?
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
I've always wondered why technical support is perfectly legal while prostitution isn't.
The common rhetoric being published by media and politicians is that we live in a patriarchy and just rape people when we get horny. Are you attempting to claim that the rhetoric is fake?
Not for long, you couldn't.
...Rita is a pimp, right? I thought it was illegal.
Their women became prostitutes in droves. Honesty costed extra.
How's your debt in USA ladies?
a person who earns a living beneath a stream of piss is a toilet
no one is insulted by them being a toilet, except maybe the toilet.
You don't have to put money in your toilet for every piss. You're being scammed.
So people send e-mails from their work address to sex workers? Bullshit.