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'DNC Hacker' Unmasked: He Really Works for Russia, Researchers Say (thedailybeast.com)

The hacker who claimed to compromise the DNC swore he was Romanian, but new investigation shows he worked directly for Russia President Vladimir Putin's government in Moscow. The Daily Beast reports: The hacker who claims to have stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee and provided them to WikiLeaks is actually an agent of the Russian government and part of an orchestrated attempt to influence U.S. media coverage surrounding the presidential election, a security research group concluded on Tuesday. The researchers, at Arlington, Va.-based ThreatConnect, traced the self-described Romanian hacker Guccifer 2.0 back to an Internet server in Russia and to a digital address that has been linked in the past to Russian online scams. Far from being a single, sophisticated hacker, Guccifer 2.0 is more likely a collection of people from the propaganda arm of the Russian government meant to deflect attention away from Moscow as the force behind the DNC hacks and leaks of emails, the researchers found. ThreatConnect is the first known group of experts to link the self-proclaimed hacker to a Russian operation, amidst an ongoing FBI investigation and a presidential campaign rocked by the release of DNC emails that have embarrassed senior party leaders and inflamed intraparty tensions turning the Democratic National Convention. The emails revealed that party insiders plotted ways to undermine Sen. Bernie Sanders' presidential bid. The researchers at the aforementioned security firm are basing their conclusion on three signals: the hacker used Russian computers to edit PDF files, he also used Russian VPN -- and other internet infrastructure from the country, and that he was unable to speak Romanian.

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  1. oh well by Torvac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    lets blame russia

    1. Re:oh well by wyHunter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. Nobody cares that they've subverted Democracy. But by golly how terrible those Russians caught them doing it!

  2. So that makes it OK then by Script+Cat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing to see here. These crimes were exposed by someone we don't like so much. That makes it OK.

    1. Re:So that makes it OK then by jratcliffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What crimes would those be? Seriously, I'm curious. What crimes have been revealed by the DNC emails that were released? Staffers at the DNC didn't much like a number of members of Sanders's staff. Some of them preferred Clinton. Good policy? Maybe, maybe not, but not a crime by any definition of the term.

    2. Re:So that makes it OK then by Script+Cat · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Fraud.

    3. Re:So that makes it OK then by laie_techie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What crimes would those be? Seriously, I'm curious. What crimes have been revealed by the DNC emails that were released? Staffers at the DNC didn't much like a number of members of Sanders's staff. Some of them preferred Clinton. Good policy? Maybe, maybe not, but not a crime by any definition of the term.

      I haven't read the emails, but I don't believe they expose any crimes committed by the DNC; instead it shows that they did not want to play by their own rules when determining their candidate. It's dirty pool which may disenfranchise some Democrats.

    4. Re:So that makes it OK then by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What crimes would those be? Seriously, I'm curious.

      Among other things, the emails show direct discussions surrounding the promising of high profile government positions to generous campaign supporters and contributors. A direct violation of 18 U.S.C./599. That's a crime.

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    5. Re:So that makes it OK then by TykeClone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's all good - the FBI will never find intent.

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    6. Re:So that makes it OK then by rwyoder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What crimes would those be? Seriously, I'm curious. What crimes have been revealed by the DNC emails that were released?

      Violations of campaign finance law: http://www.rollingstone.com/po...

  3. Who cares..?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I was a Sanders supporter. Now I'll vote for Jill Stein.

    I'll *****NEVER***** vote for Hillary Clinton..... EVER.

    1. Re:Who cares..?? by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Trump campaign welcomes your endorsement.

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    2. Re:Who cares..?? by blue+trane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Vote for divided govt so Trump can't get anything done. A blocked Trump is better than President Hillary.

    3. Re:Who cares..?? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No conspiracy necessary. His campaign is over, he didn't get the nomination, now he's recommending that his supporters make the best of a bad situation and elect a ho-hum stay-the-course centrist, the only candidate who can realistically win enough votes to keep a bigoted, inept and childish protofascist from winning the presidency.

      If you have to step in a dog turd to dodge a bullet, you do it. It's the smart and sensible choice.

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  4. Russian VPN != "Works for Russia" by mveloso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure the press is smart enough to understand that use of a Russian VPN means they're working for the Russian government...but I'd expect /. editors to understand at least the basics of, you know, connectivity.

    1. Re:Russian VPN != "Works for Russia" by kqs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who did the hacking is irrelevant. It's just a distraction.

      I only partly agree with this. If a foreign country is trying to affect our elections, that's something worth considering. Especially because if they'll do something minor like this they may do something major and less-easily-traced later.

      The inner workings of both major US political parties as it relates to rewarding large donors, choosing party candidates, and dealing with "disruptive" candidates is very ugly. This could have easily happened to the RNC (if it hasn't already) and a similar pile of shit would likely be unearthed.

      This is very true. The DNC was unhappy with Sanders, but never thought he had a chance of winning and didn't do much against him. Some talk, but no action.

      The RNC, OTOH, has been in an existential fight with Trump for the past year. They probably had a LOT more talk and probably more action. (Totally ineffective action, true, but action nonetheless.)

      I really don't know how primaries should work. As you say, primaries currently give too much power to those with strong and vocal opinions. Caucuses are even worse. Open primaries let people outside the party have a say, which may or may not be a good idea. The old method of "smoke filled backroom deals" doesn't seem an improvement.

      The disapproval ratings for the DNC and RNC candidates are at record high levels and speak for themselves

      That's a red herring. The DNC candidate has been under near-constant "investigations" (which have produced close to zero evidence or crimes) for more than two decades and has little charisma; that's gonna cause disapproval from those who like investigations but dislike evidence. The RNC candidates have insulted just about every cultural, ethnic, and gender-based group in the country. It's a perfect storm, but neither one seems tied to the parties.

  5. Sometimes real life is better than the movies! by parallel_prankster · · Score: 1, Insightful

    As if Hillary vs. Trump was not popcorny enough, we get a hacker from Russia trying to influence elections? Not even sure if this entire theory is believable but just sit back and watch!

  6. Yea Sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the same people who said...
    "No classified email on my server"
    "No material on my email that was classified at the time"
    "No material marked classified on my server"
    "I handed over all work related emails"
    "The DNC did not collude to keep Sanders from winning"
    "The DNC doesn't work with news media to plant stories against Sanders"

    If they ever got caught telling the truth once, this might be believable. Who hacked the DNC server doesn't matter, what matters is how corrupt the DNC is from the content of the emails. They did their best to disenfranchise their base. Your vote doesn't mean anything to them, only their power and they are willing to lie, cheat and steal to keep that power and extend it over you.

    What a joke the DNC is. How long till Debbie Waserman Schultz gets another high paid job thanks to Clinton? Oops, already happened, so corrupt she had to be fired from the DNC but is still truthful enough to work for Clinton.

    1. Re:Yea Sure by Yunzil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So you're saying that somehow the DNC generated 3.7 million more votes for Clinton than Sanders?

      How, exactly?

    2. Re:Yea Sure by smugfunt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So you're saying that somehow the DNC generated 3.7 million more votes for Clinton than Sanders?

      We often discuss voting machines here. We don't like them.
      Smoking gun?

  7. Jesus H. Christ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this some pathetic attempt at political spin or misdirection?

    1. "At this point, what difference does it make" who he was working for? Are the emails themselves not blatant enough for anyone?

    2. What kind of half-assed chicken-shit "Security researchers" draw a connection between Putin's government and a Russian based malware serving IP address? I won't for a second deny that Russia and Putin's goverenment work extensively in hacking the wold. But, there are literally thousands of malware servers in Russia that Putin's government knows nothing about.

  8. Why does this matter? by kwiecmmm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The real issue is the fact that DNC tried to stop Bernie with a few underhanded tactics.

    The DNC is now trying to redirect the focus everyone to say the Russians did this rather than asking why Bernie didn't get a fair shot or why Hilary was basically given a free pass. I am more worried about why these emails were written in the first place and why the people at the DNC were stupid enough to think their email server couldn't be hacked.

    1. Re:Why does this matter? by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The real issue is the fact that DNC tried to stop Bernie with a few underhanded tactics.

      Oh, it's better than that. We also get to see them denigrating people based on their ethnicity, making fun of a black woman's name, and (the best part) conspiring to violate the US Code in the offering of quid pro quo government appointments in exchange for Hillary campaign support.

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    2. Re:Why does this matter? by CaptainLard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And the OTHER real issue is that we have as close to proof that makes no difference that Russia, a country who's leader is trying his best to restore the glory days of the cold war, is actively screwing with our general election.

      Sure the DNC should be impartial but to suggest we ignore Russia's attempt to influence our democratic process (however flawed it may be) is asinine, especially given they seem to have chosen a side. There two big problems here and both should be addressed!

    3. Re:Why does this matter? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Even Sanders realizes that the bias of DNC is not the reason he lost. If he thinks the election was stolen from him, he would not have endorsed HRC as strongly as he did. The email shows the normal palace intrigue, backstabbing and gossip. It is not even as embarrassing as the Sony leak. No ethnic jokes, no racist jokes being forwarded.

      If you put a secret microphone near the watercooler of any American company and release raw audio and transcript of all the talk, you would find lot more sleazy things than what you find in the DNC email dump.

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  9. doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Doesn't matter why he did it
    Doesn't matter who he did it for

    What matters is what DNC did, they played a game, they lost, and now they say Russia is winning so vote for us because Russia is bad, but infact Russia is irrelevant, it's just a tactic to make Republicans look bad now, even though Republicans did nothing wrong (in this context).

    1. Re:doesn't matter by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find the DNC to be much more racist. If you actually listen to what they say about blacks and minorities, it is as if they are COMPLETELY incapable of doing anything normal because of some pigment condition.

      "voter ID, disenfranchises Blacks" How exactly does pigment affect getting ID? The same ID that is required to hold a job, get liquor, buy a gun, Open a bank account ....

      "Removing a slate vote (single box ballot) disenfranchises Black people" Are blacks somehow unable to select each candidate individually? Oh, I realize that this is nothing more than a way to get upwards of 85% of them voting for the DNC slate.

      I just find the whole idea that Blacks are somehow incapable of doing normal things highly racist. Yes, even if it is under the best of intentions. And if I were a black person, I would be really pissed.

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  10. If you can't attack the message... by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ....attack the messenger.

    Isn't that pretty much Lawyer Response 101?

    Dovetails nicely with the purported "vast Right Wing conspiracy", doesn't it?

    If a hacker reveals illegal conduct, is it "less illegal" if the hacker is Russian?
    I haven't noticed anyone asserting the emails are not genuine.

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  11. And still people won't vote for Gary Johnson by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One party nominated a racist. The other party nominated a serial liar. And still, I bet the Libertarian and Green parties won't get 5% of the vote. I suspect that Hillary and Trump could beat American children in public while shouting "America sucks" and we still wouldn't get a third-party into office.

    My favorite is the guy attending the RNC, wearing the "STOP TRUMP" t-shirt, who said he would vote for Trump. **NUCLEAR FACEPALM**

  12. "What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Who cares who hacked them. This is just a deflection.

    It's what's IN THEM that is the story behind the curtain nobody wants you to see

    1. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who cares who hacked them. This is just a deflection.

      This is spot on.

      I'm likely still going to vote for Hillary (as opposed to not voting) because the alternative is President Trump - but I really don't care who brought the emails to light, since it's obvious they're not phony.

      On a side note - the Republicans had the most winnable presidential race in decades, handed to them on a silver platter. So they decided to nominate just about the most unelectable candidate imaginable. Unbelievable.
       

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    2. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Voting for the lesser of two evils still means you;re voting for evil.

      Seriously - it's like saying "Oh, I'm voting for Stalin because that Hitler guy is just nasty..."

      Given the current state of dissatisfaction with the current duopoly, I'm amazed that folks aren't moving to 3rd parties more often these days. I mean, seriously, if there were ever a time when it could really make a difference...

      But then, most people who claim to have an ideology are driven more by fear than by their own conscience these days...

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    3. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by internerdj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      To be fair, the Republicans managed to toss the Democrats the most easily defeatable opponent ever in someone who is consistently offensive to nearly everyone including most of the party he is nominated for and the Democrats still couldn't actually field someone who could soundly beat him.

    4. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On an evil scale, hillary is somewhere north of the coyote. She's a wonk and a bureaucrat with a ton of government experience. The most likely negative outcome of her term is more of the same.

      Trump is actually dangerous.

      So sure.. voting for 36 vs 48 on the evil scale is still voting for evil.

      But voting for 11 vs 48 on the evil scale is not the same thing.

      Trump is a sociopath and a narcissist. He's an idiot too and Putin will own him repeatedly. Just having Trump as a candidate has weakened our standing with almost all of our allies which means harder to get treaties, harder to build coalitions, harder to oppose hostiles.

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    5. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by cstepan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is exactly the same sort of thing that started the Watergate scandal: breaking into the DNC looking for dirt. This is theft, pure and simple. The fact that it may be a foreign government attempting to influence our elections by using illegally obtained information just might be a bit concerning. So yeah, you should care how they got out.

    6. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not surprising. Dig into some of the emails and you will find discussions among DNC staffers about various articles they have received from journalists for approval before they are submitted to their editors! The media is complicit and circling the wagons around their own.

    7. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by Dread_ed · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I don't know which is worse: having an isolationist like Trump or a warmonger like HRC...

      Just ask yourself, would you re-elect Bush for a third term to put us back into a ground war in the Middle East? If so, then vote for Hillary.

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    8. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is no such person that could 'soundly beat him' because most people just vote party line with little more concern than the D or R.

      If only the Democrats had a candidate who could energize a young, large field of first-time voters in a way that no other Democrat can.

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    9. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by GLMDesigns · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except Trump will have less of a chance of getting stupidity done (compared to Hillary)

      Congress will be united against Trump stupidities. Republican establishment hates him. SoCons (Social Conservatives) hate and don't trust him (He's for Planned Parenthood, pro-choice). Small Government types are against him (he's for Eminent Domain seizures, pro-gun control) so he's not going to have a pass in Congress for anything.

      The media will do it's duty in vetting and exposing things.

      Now with Hillary - there will be no push-back from either the media or the Dem congress. Any objections, no matter how valid, will be described as the rantings of right-wing lunatics.

      I am a #NeverTrump and a #NeverHillary. Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond.

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    10. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Absent a system that includes a run-off election the reality is that a vote for a 3rd party candidate is a vote for the least preferred candidate. Unless the American system changes, voting for a third-party, particularly in the presidential election is the very definition of "totally f**king stupid." Protest votes give you exactly opposite of what you desire.

      The only way to effect any kind of change in the American two-party system is to do precisely what Bernie Sanders did. He caused the democrats to add his causes to their platform. It's not an ideal win but it is a win nonetheless. Everyone making an anti-Hillary protest vote is voting against your own interests. It ensures that everything Bernie stood for, everything democrats generally stand for--in this case probably even what republicans stand for--goes the exact opposite direction. In my mind at least that makes you worse than the unthinking masses buying every bombastic line coming out of Trump's rectum.

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    11. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by colin_faber · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who got caught? Did you read the article? Did you actually visit ThreatConnect's website and read their best guess? Based on the evidence they presented, it only suggests that a Russian VPN provider was involved in the obfuscation of the originating network. The rest of the analysis is click-bait speculation and should be disregarded.

    12. Re:"What Difference Does It Make?!?!?!" by Rakarra · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Because the story is not that exciting? Ooooo, people in the DNC didn't like Bernie, what a surprise! I'm willing to bet that there are a lot of people in the RNC who loathe Trump. Probably a lot more.
      I swear, deluded Bernie supporters are acting as if this somehow threw the election to Clinton.

  13. Quite possibly bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To my knowledge, ThreatConnect was paid by the DNC to do this investigation, and the company that owns the news source used as a reference here (The Daily Beast is owned by IAC) has Chelsea Clinton on their board of directors.

    I would not draw any conclusions until this is independently confirmed.

  14. Re:Why is this not bad for Drumpf? by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Putin does not seem to be one to shy away from using extralegal measures to silence people he doesn't agree with, is that what you are suggesting Drumpf might want some tips on to solve "mutual problems"? Certainly Putin is much closer philosophically with Drumpf than he is with anyone from the democratic party; do you expect he has a good method for Drumpf to use to deal with pesky liberals and socialists?

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  15. Re:A tax-exempt non-profit organization .... by bigfinger76 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Irrelevant.

  16. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA...I..I just cant do it.... by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If that conspiracy theory were true, wouldn't you think the DNC would be screaming outright about them somehow being fake, instead of trying to hand-wave so much over them?

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  17. Re:Logic by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, Hillary is GUILTY of what? Killing Vince Foster? Parachuting into Benghazi and slaughtering dozens of Americans?

    Hillary's involvement is Benghazi is what disqualifies her for me.

    We first learn that there was an attack on the embassy and people, including the Ambassador, were killed.

    The we learn that this was a spontaneous riot due to anti-Islam movie made in the US.

    What does Hillary do? Does she defend free speech? No.

    Is this considered to be a teachable moment? Where we explain to the Muslim world that Freedom of Speech (which is the expression of Freedom of Thought) is to be respected and honored even if the opinions are disagreeable. (Yes the Muslim world would have brought forth hadiths and other religious commentary showing how insulting Islam is punishable by death and yadda, yadda yadda. This would have be the so-called teachable moment that so many people as so fond of having.

    But no. What happens? The film maker is prosecuted. An American citizen who made a horrible movie (I saw it. It a laughable movie, horrible acting, horrible writing.)

    Even if that was the end of the story Hillary would be the villain for kowtowing to religious nuts and for throwing free-speech under the bus.

    But it turns out the facts we learned from the administration was false.

    The spontaneous riot was a planned, well-executed attack. We had a carrier group within reach. We had hours to respond to the attack. The ambassador (it is relayed by French and other European news outlets - and believed by many, especially in the Muslim world) was gang raped before being tortured and killed.

    And still - the state department (read Hillary) blames the event on a pathetically bad movie.

    Why this charade? Because it was 8 weeks before the 2012 Presidential election. And, as we all knew. Al Quaeda was defeated; ISIS was the junior varsity team, and doofus Romney was channeling the 1980s for his "Russians" quote.

    No. Hillary is not acceptable. I actually think that Trump will be put in his place by Congress and the Media and we may have the fortunate outcome of rolling back the Imperial Presidency.

    #NeverTrump #NeverHillary - Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond

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  18. Re:We DID vote for Stalin... by Rakarra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You realize we sent Stalin a massive infusion of arms and armaments to help him keep fighting Hitler, and supported him despite his evil, right through V-E day? That we really preferred having Russian soldiers dying to having Americans dying, so we gave him all the help we could?

    Yes, there was a strong feeling in certain circles that when the eastern front met the western front, the fighting would continue and we'd wind up in a war with the Russians. But still, we absolutely supported evil when it was fighting another evil.

    I think it's generally considered good foreign politics two encourage two mortal enemies in their fight against each other.
    But the US also sent a lot of aid to Britain when they were fighting the Nazis and they were certainly not enemies.