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FBI Probes Hacking of Democratic Congressional Group (reuters.com)
From a Reuters report: The FBI is investigating a cyber attack against another U.S. Democratic Party group, which may be related to an earlier hack against the Democratic National Committee
, four people familiar with the matter told Reuters. The previously unreported incident at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, or DCCC, and its potential ties to Russian hackers are likely to heighten accusations, so far unproven, that Moscow is trying to meddle in the U.S. presidential election campaign to help Republican nominee Donald Trump. The Kremlin denied involvement in the DCCC cyber-attack. Hacking of the party's emails caused discord among Democrats at the party's convention in Philadelphia to nominate Hillary Clinton as its presidential candidate. The newly disclosed breach at the DCCC may have been intended to gather information about donors, rather than to steal money, the sources said on Thursday.
Actual quote:
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press"
Trump asked hackers to travel back in time and hack the server when it was still online?
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The server is still online which would be a pretty big story itself.
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He asked them to release the emails they already have.
I wonder which one it is.
They won't prosecute if it's Her Highness, but they'll be happy to prosecute if there's an unsubstantiated allegation that besmirches Her Highness.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
The emails were leaked by deliberate negligence. Just like a certain person who wasn't charged for exposing certain files on a private home server.
Once the noise went down the person in charge got a job working for the person who benefits the most from the leaked emails.
And yet it's "Russia" influencing the election.
Or he was just saying shit to stay in the news cycle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not apologizing for Trump. But he has a pathological need for attention. So, he says all kinds of stupid shit to get attention, and then gets more attention by saying it was a joke, or you "obviously" misunderstood him.
So, yeah, not something you want in a President. Not that Hillary Clinton is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, mind you, but I'm not up for giving the launch codes to a temperamental man-baby.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
Better properties than uranium.
Right wing NY Times story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
...as long as they didn't KNOW that anything they took was secret, no prosecutable crime was committed?
After all, "... no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case..."
-Styopa
The registered leftdotters are already patting themselves on the back with mod points. They won't listen to you or the truth, but anyone who actually saw Trump speak knows it's "He asked them to release the emails they already have."
I don't think Vlad P is _that_ invested in having Trump win. If he is, Trump's ties to him go deeper than mere admiration.
Anything that hurts the US and weakens America's influence in the world helps Russia. Putin probably sees 2 likely outcomes with Trump winning: Trump does exactly what he has campaigned on and the US becomes protectionist, isolationist, and it's economy stagnates; leaving a large power vacuum that Russia could neatly slide into; or Trump wins, becomes a Putin/Erdogan-lite president and spends most of his time consolidating power, fighting off a hostile Congress, and trying to rebrand the White House as the Trump White House (or maybe just the Trump House?), leaving Putin alone to continue his Eastern European anschluss and growing influence in the Middle East. Either way, a Trump win is a Putin win.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Why would this be a national security issue or even a campaign issue, if the emails in question were just about yoga and Chelsea's wedding?
I mean, Hillary promised us all that there was nothing important in those emails. Right?
So going back in time to hack a server to get emails that are only about yoga classes seems improbable...
The trigger happy twitter fingers of Trump is what gets the security service guys nervous. He is scheduled to get his first security briefing. There's nothing stopping him from tweeting that information and then blowing up the reaction into another Media Moment for himself. If he makes it big enough, it would look like the Federal Government is singling him out. That they should do but it will only play into his hands. His sycophants in the Republican party will tut-tut and claim it isn't that bad. His infantile voters will find a way to stomach it because he's Telling it Like it Is and Blowing Against the Man.
So far as I know, the only people saying it was Russia are DNC officials, the same people that couldn't manage to secure a mail server and the same people that have an extreme interest in making sure their underhanded subverting of Bernie Sanders' campaign wasn't the story. But they're experts at network forensics, apparently, after only 4 days of work... Meanwhile it took months for the FBI & CIA to say they think the Sony hack was done by North Korea. Maybe the FBI and CIA should start hiring Hilary's cronies to do their hacking investigations for them.
Yeah, I have to figure that a lot of people are worried that Trump can't keep his mouth shut when it comes to classified information. Mind you, if he does deliberately spout classified information, it can only hurt his campaign in the long run, because it shows that he shouldn't have been allowed that information in the first place.
What they need to do is give Trump and Clinton slightly different briefings... still accurate, but formulated that in the event that one or the other of them leaks it (not just on Twitter), it's easier to trace back to which one of the two leaked the information. They've caught spies before that way.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
So the Dems have been hacked, apparently multiple times and these hacks have been widely publicized. To me that raise the question of why aren't we hearing anything about hacks on the GOP side?
Is it because the GOP has security that is orders of magnitude better than the DNC?
Is it because the GOP doesn't have any juicy secrets?
Is it because the GOP has been hacked, but no-one is admitting to anything?
Is it because all the hackers are pro-GOP?
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Yeah it's a sad day in America when we need the Russians to expose our corruption.
Because the Media and the Justice System won't do their damn jobs.
You mean like this fellow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Chinese billionaire tied to 1990s Clinton fundraising scandal arrested for lying about how he used $4.5MILLION cash he brought into the U.S. aboard private jets
We can hope that he wont at least strip the classification off the material and then have that 0information transferred to an insecure email server.
Look at the bright side, he might say something that breaches national security and they could jail him. Oh wait a minute, maybe not, because when Hillary actually did that very same thing they didn't.
Oh no we mustn't trust Trump.
It originated from a dilapatated Coney Island arcade with a busted up sign and an illegal connection to the power grid.
Yeah it's a sad day in America when we need the Russians to expose our corruption.
Because the Media and the Justice System won't do their damn jobs.
The Russians only exposed wrongdoing by breaking US law. Are you suggesting the US media and judicial system do the same. Seems paradoxical.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
As soon as I saw that real consequences started happening because of the DNC hack, my first thought was, "Hmm, well, some consumer-grade Exchange box sitting on the end of a Comcast connection running without an SSL certificate for two months would be a piece of cake compared to the DNC's infrastructure. Somebody's for sure got those deleted emails." Heck, even Comey himself testified that the FBI was able to reconstitute thousands of work-related emails. Maybe we don't need the Russkies or the script kiddies to give us the emails, our own FBI could fork them over.
Regardless, yeah, I'd like to see those emails. I think 30,000 emails about yoga would be interesting.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
Just because Trump asked Russia to do this, and Russian hackers did this doesn't mean there's a causal relationship.
He didn't "ask Russia to do this". He was joking about Clinton's missing 30,000 emails. Emails that are apparently now a national security concern even though they're just about yoga and Chelsea's wedding, according to Hillary.
Do you have ESP?
Really ?
Hmmm "No reasonable prosecutor would bring the case against Hillary Clinton"
But what Trump has actually said about Syria and ISIS is that 1. toppling Assad was a bad idea because he was keeping the jihadis in check and 2. thinks a no-fly zone over Syria is dumb because ISIS doesn't have planes and there's no reason to antagonize Russia as they drop their million dollar a pop bombs on ISIS.
Putin's no good guy but he's on the right side of the fight against Islamic jihad. I would think he'd want Trump in power because Trump will join with Putin against ISIS, unlike Hillary, who destabilized Syria in the first place by arming the moderate beheaders and seems far more concerned with toppling Assad than beating ISIS.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
You call off the cuff remarks that are often implausible or borderline retarded "working for it"? I see Trump do precious little actual work. He seems almost willfully ignorant of constitutional and legal matters, and seems to be in no hurry to learn any of these things.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Yes, if you just interpret Trump's bizarre statements in just the right way, with just the right amount of rationalization, suddenly he's a genius!
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
You are missing the point. Yes, ISIS is bad. Needs to have its ass kicked. But they are not a superpower, and they will never become one. The real conflict - the one for trillions of dollars and global domination - is between the superpowers: the United States, Russia, and China.
Why do these three countries care about what happens in the Middle East? Because there's a fuckton of oil there. Yes, all three superpowers have their own fucktons of oil on their own respective territories -- but if you're a superpower, wouldn't it be nice to have influence over the rest of the oil market too?
So that's what the real battle is about: TPP is our attempt to keep the rest of Asia trading with the US, and not be dependent on China. Ukraine is about Putin's attempt to retake territories and resources formerly held by the USSR before its collapse. And NATO is our attempt to integrate those same territories and resources into the West. Israel and Turkey are our "sorta friendly" airbases. Syria is Russia's "sorta friendly" airbase. The prize in the middle east is control of the oil of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and a shot at Iran's oil. ISIS is merely the excuse the superpowers are using this year.
Putin absolutely wants Trump to win -- not because of Trump's policy on ISIS, but because he knows Trump, having no foreign policy experience of his own, will be easier to influence and manipulate. Especially with folks like Paul Manafort (this guy has a long history of working for dictators, and his last big contract was working for Putin's Yanukovich before the Ukraine blew up) on Trump's team telling Trump exactly what to think.
Geopolitically speaking, this election isn't about Trump vs. Hillary. It's about whether you want US foreign policy to be directed by Americans (however crooked one of them might be) or by the Russians (however strong they might make their voters feel). Given that choice, I'd suggest voting for the crook: it's important.
I'll tell you why Putin favors Trump.
Trump praises Putin as a "strong leader". Trump also said Saddam Hussein was a "good guy" and did "good things".
Trump supports nuclear proliferation, specifically saying Japan, South Korea, and Saudi Arabia should be given nuclear weapons "for defense".
Trump said he may abandon our NATO allies if Russia were to attack them.
Trump said he supports Russia's invasion and anexation of Crimea and the lifting of sanctions on Russia for doing it.
Trump said he wants the US to abandon all overseas military bases and only deploy forces directly from the US. This would cripple the US's military capability.
Trump said wants other nations to pay tribute to the US for military protection. A disaster for foreign relations by turning the US military into mercenaries.
It's no wonder that Putin and Kim Jong-Un have both endorsed Trump for president. Trump's going to do all their work for them in killing the US as a world power.
Who released STUXNET info for political purposes so as to look important?
That wasn't Trump was it? No. It was the clown who is currently in the office.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
You must work for the media, good spin there. I just have 2 words 'Pentagon Papers'...
Ok. More than 2 words. The media & the Justice Department don't have to break the law to 'do their jobs', the latter has the power of warrants to compel turning over all documentation they want. Given the content of the released e-mails ask yourself if the JD is really doing their jobs by not investigating the 'pay-for-play' comments at a minimum. Why is the media not following up on that? Why has the media, by & large, given the Clinton Foundation and Hillary herself a pass based on verified information in Clinton Cash? No, just let her go on 60 Minutes and throw soft-ball questions at her...let her completely skate on a simple question about whether or not its improper for members of the DNC to favour one person over another (note the question didn't ask about THESE e-mails just 'any attempt')...its a simply 'yes/no' question. How hard is it for that talking head asking the questions to do a simple/quick follow up on her answer eg. 'The question wasn't about this incident, I'm just asking if in your view any attempt to influence the candidate selection is improper.'
Now, don't get me wrong, Trumps a complete ass. But Hillary is NOT the person you want as President either. If the media & JD had been doing their jobs maybe, just maybe the American people would have better candidates than these 2 jokers to vote for.
Almost nothing you said is factual, and is a series of half-truths or outright lies. Bravo.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
My favorite part is the money laundering scheme, though, where big donors would cut a big check split to each state party allegedly to help down-ballot candidates, but was then instantly wired right back to the national party and then used for pro-HRC ("#ImWIthHer") ads and HRC fundraising. This dodges the FEC donation limit requirements.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
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He asked them to release the emails they already have.
I wonder which one it is.
Pretty much this. Donald Trump asked the hackers to release the emails if they have them. Anti-Trump press outlets are reporting it as him asking the hackers to go out and hack Hillary Clinton which is patently false. It further undermines the credibility of the press to have these headlines out there saying Trump is calling on foreign hackers to hack Hillary Clinton... they already hacked her and he is just calling for them to release the missing emails that she illegally deleted in the first place.
It seems that 90% to 95% of what press reporting is out there is agenda driven spin which bends any semblance of the truth beyond its breaking point.
Trump certainly says things that are over the top, but then the press appears to need to take it a step further in their "interpretation" and put words in his mouth that he simply did not say.
I am not a Trump supporter. I really hope that neither Trump or Clinton win as either would be very very bad for the United States, Gov. Johnson appears to be the only rational, not evil, and qualified candidate on the ballot.
But more disturbing than who is going to get elected president is the lack of an Independent free press in the US. That is what is going to kill us.
Trump himself has said that he will make decisions in the Oval Office based on "what he knows beforehand" and "his common sense" not based on pulling enough information from people who know better than he does. In fact, he also claimed that he knows more about the Iraq War than the generals who were in charge of it. Even setting my policy disagreements with him aside, the idea of a President who would make decisions based on the first thing that pops into their head instead of based on getting all of the available information is scary - no matter what party they belong to.
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
Do you think the President gets to launch nukes himself? He has a button his desk to fire nukes? Are you really that stupid?
Apparently you are rather ignorant of the process. While the president doesn't have a button on his desk, he does have the authority to order a nuclear strike. Nuclear football
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Hmmm "No reasonable prosecutor would bring the case against Hillary Clinton"
I suspect making an offer that no reasonable prosecutor could refuse falls into that category.
hiLIARy sent and email instructing her staff to remove the classified marking from documents so they could send them unsecure.
FBI Director James Comey testified that there were 3 classified emails that had portion markings on them, that would happen only if her employees removed the header and footer markings of a classified document and missed some of the portion markings in an effort to send them unsecure.
Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
They keep investigating the HACKS. Not the corruption and crime the hacks expose. THE FBI IS CORRUPT AS FUCK.
In fact, he also claimed that he knows more about the Iraq War than the generals who were in charge of it.
I thought what he said was that he knows more about ISIS than the generals...
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
Geopolitically speaking, this election isn't about Trump vs. Hillary. It's about whether you want US foreign policy to be directed by Americans (however crooked one of them might be) or by the Russians (however strong they might make their voters feel). Given that choice, I'd suggest voting for the crook: it's important.
You're exactly right. But, I'm frankly tired of the proxy wars and the droning of brown people in sand for the control of oil and gas and, of course, pipelines. Not to mention the regime-change agenda over there that started during the W. Bush administration.
So I don't want Hillary in charge to further that agenda and escalate things over there. The only good it does for anybody is to line the pockets of multinational corporations (and, of course, the politicians that help them gain access to resource they can exploit). And those guys don't give two figs about America or Americans. They don't even bother paying US taxes on all those gains - most of it they stick in some foreign tax haven somewhere so they can get to it when they're ready to retire to one of their tropical villas where all the local officials are already owned (by them).
So, yea, if you're all concerned about continuing to squeeze the middle class of their ever-dwindling wages so you can spend it fighting foreign wars to prop up the globalists and the bankers, by all means support Hillary as your candidate. For me, I'd rather leave them to their own devices. We'd be better off working in the weapons factories and selling bombs and ammo to the ones left there fighting over some desert. We've got enough of our own gas and oil to do just fine until they're done bombing each other to oblivion and have established the caliphate in the EU.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia