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FBI Probes Hacking of Democratic Congressional Group (reuters.com)
From a Reuters report: The FBI is investigating a cyber attack against another U.S. Democratic Party group, which may be related to an earlier hack against the Democratic National Committee
, four people familiar with the matter told Reuters. The previously unreported incident at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, or DCCC, and its potential ties to Russian hackers are likely to heighten accusations, so far unproven, that Moscow is trying to meddle in the U.S. presidential election campaign to help Republican nominee Donald Trump. The Kremlin denied involvement in the DCCC cyber-attack. Hacking of the party's emails caused discord among Democrats at the party's convention in Philadelphia to nominate Hillary Clinton as its presidential candidate. The newly disclosed breach at the DCCC may have been intended to gather information about donors, rather than to steal money, the sources said on Thursday.
I don't think Vlad P is _that_ invested in having Trump win. If he is, Trump's ties to him go deeper than mere admiration.
More likely is that someone else has hired the hackers. Those super PACs need to spend their money somewhere.
But I'd say the most likely scenario is that the Republicans have been hacked too, but their security is so crap they haven't even realized it.
We are the 198 proof..
Just because Trump asked Russia to do this, and Russian hackers did this doesn't mean there's a causal relationship.
Thirty four characters live here.
The idiots are the ones willing to ignore what was said in those emails and voicemails. Clinton is repeating the past once again from Watergate to Whitewater and now Clintongate itself. This goes all the way to the top and it doesn't matter how many aides or chairmen/women fall on their swords for her. Hillary "Rotten" Clinton is the big establishment elitist nightmare this country needs to wake up from desperately. Bernie supporters have. It's too bad Sheeple Democrats haven't.
captcha: preach
Such a perfect captcha to describe whenever the truth is spoken here on leftdot.
Actual quote:
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press"
Trump asked hackers to travel back in time and hack the server when it was still online?
or
The server is still online which would be a pretty big story itself.
or
He asked them to release the emails they already have.
I wonder which one it is.
Well the Republicans do have a history of this. The reason almost all scandals nowadays have "-gate" appended to them (for example Deflate-gate) is because of the original Watergate scandal. That's when staffers in the Nixon Whitehouse hired burglars to break into the DNC offices in the Watergate office complex during the 1972 presidential campaign.
Ironically, many of the other activities considered.scandalous at the time now seem routine: the use of the FBI and IRS to harass or entrap political dissidents was a big deal back then during the investigation.
We are the 198 proof..
They won't prosecute if it's Her Highness, but they'll be happy to prosecute if there's an unsubstantiated allegation that besmirches Her Highness.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Many people are aware of their public image. Such people will, for example, refuse to endorse a candidate because they know that their endorsement comes with more baggage than benefits.
Vladimir Putin is not a great fool, he knows what the American populace thinks of him. His most likely motive is a desire to make sure that whoever wins this election, a significant population believes that it only got that way because of illegal foreign campaign contributions and/or espionage by a moderately hostile (not shooting yet) foreign government. This would widen the rift of distrust between the citizenry of the USA and the government, providing an image that "the west" is just as guilty of rigging elections and ignoring citizen opinions as Russia (or at least, that is how his diplomats can argue it).
The emails were leaked by deliberate negligence. Just like a certain person who wasn't charged for exposing certain files on a private home server.
Once the noise went down the person in charge got a job working for the person who benefits the most from the leaked emails.
And yet it's "Russia" influencing the election.
Or he was just saying shit to stay in the news cycle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not apologizing for Trump. But he has a pathological need for attention. So, he says all kinds of stupid shit to get attention, and then gets more attention by saying it was a joke, or you "obviously" misunderstood him.
So, yeah, not something you want in a President. Not that Hillary Clinton is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, mind you, but I'm not up for giving the launch codes to a temperamental man-baby.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
Better properties than uranium.
Right wing NY Times story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
...as long as they didn't KNOW that anything they took was secret, no prosecutable crime was committed?
After all, "... no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case..."
-Styopa
The registered leftdotters are already patting themselves on the back with mod points. They won't listen to you or the truth, but anyone who actually saw Trump speak knows it's "He asked them to release the emails they already have."
Just because Trump asked Russia to do this, and Russian hackers did this doesn't mean there's a causal relationship.
Nah, Trump hacked this himself alone. He already said, "Only I alone can hack this!"
Hillary said that, "We can all hack this together!"
What wonderful election choices we have . . .
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
We are offshoring almost everything else. Why deny the Russians work in the electoral process?
Why would this be a national security issue or even a campaign issue, if the emails in question were just about yoga and Chelsea's wedding?
I mean, Hillary promised us all that there was nothing important in those emails. Right?
So going back in time to hack a server to get emails that are only about yoga classes seems improbable...
The trigger happy twitter fingers of Trump is what gets the security service guys nervous. He is scheduled to get his first security briefing. There's nothing stopping him from tweeting that information and then blowing up the reaction into another Media Moment for himself. If he makes it big enough, it would look like the Federal Government is singling him out. That they should do but it will only play into his hands. His sycophants in the Republican party will tut-tut and claim it isn't that bad. His infantile voters will find a way to stomach it because he's Telling it Like it Is and Blowing Against the Man.
So far as I know, the only people saying it was Russia are DNC officials, the same people that couldn't manage to secure a mail server and the same people that have an extreme interest in making sure their underhanded subverting of Bernie Sanders' campaign wasn't the story. But they're experts at network forensics, apparently, after only 4 days of work... Meanwhile it took months for the FBI & CIA to say they think the Sony hack was done by North Korea. Maybe the FBI and CIA should start hiring Hilary's cronies to do their hacking investigations for them.
It's almost hysterical, this loonbait conspiracy crap. Why should Putin favor Trump, when Trump clearly favors the US over all other countries? (as a President for any particular country *should* be putting the interests of his own countrymen first). Putin would more likely actually prefer a POTUS that is going to be weaker on foreign policy, if anything; just about everyone wants to knock the US down a peg or three.
It's just FUD and hypocritical fearmongering from the DNC; instead of getting their panties twisted up over terrorism, which is actually a credible future threat, they're getting them twisted up over a supposed conspiracy between Russia and a real estate tycoon/nominee. You can't make this stuff up. It's rather pathetic.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
Trump is just a blowhard who doesn't think before he speaks. It is pretty clear in context that he was not actually calling for any hacks.
"Why do I have to get involved with [Vladimir] Putin? I have nothing to do with Putin. I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t know anything about him other than he will respect me. He doesn’t respect our president. And if it is Russia [behind the WikiLeaks release of stolen Democratic National Committee emails]—which it’s probably not, nobody knows who it is—but if it is Russia, it’s really bad for a different reason, because it shows how little respect they have for our country, when they would hack into a major party and get everything. But it would be interesting to see—I will tell you this—Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.
The Chewbacca Defense in the annals of brilliant legal maneuvers.
Yeah, I have to figure that a lot of people are worried that Trump can't keep his mouth shut when it comes to classified information. Mind you, if he does deliberately spout classified information, it can only hurt his campaign in the long run, because it shows that he shouldn't have been allowed that information in the first place.
What they need to do is give Trump and Clinton slightly different briefings... still accurate, but formulated that in the event that one or the other of them leaks it (not just on Twitter), it's easier to trace back to which one of the two leaked the information. They've caught spies before that way.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
So the Dems have been hacked, apparently multiple times and these hacks have been widely publicized. To me that raise the question of why aren't we hearing anything about hacks on the GOP side?
Is it because the GOP has security that is orders of magnitude better than the DNC?
Is it because the GOP doesn't have any juicy secrets?
Is it because the GOP has been hacked, but no-one is admitting to anything?
Is it because all the hackers are pro-GOP?
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I know, mixing my allusions.
Yeah it's a sad day in America when we need the Russians to expose our corruption.
Because the Media and the Justice System won't do their damn jobs.
That landed in Hillary's pocket from Uranium One and other Russian deals facilitated by the Clinton Foundation.
How dare Russia try to influence our potential President?
You mean like this fellow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Chinese billionaire tied to 1990s Clinton fundraising scandal arrested for lying about how he used $4.5MILLION cash he brought into the U.S. aboard private jets
Those are the only possibilities that you can come up with? Trump's comment more than anything sounds like Gingrich in 2012 when he was publicly "not communicating" with his PAC.
It sounds as though Trump is asking Russia for help in getting elected. In my opinion this is a problem regardless of whether or not it involves further criminal activities.
Okay you don't like the guy I get it. A lot of people don't like the guy. As for the "blinded" sentiment. Let me ask you something, except from some sound bites on CNN have you heard any of the guys speeches? Trump didn't say he asked Russia specifically to do anything. He mentioned in a speech that if they "had" the now deleted files, it would be great if they shared them.
But no, me who you just called an idiot who listens to what someone says and makes a decision based on what that person says is branded an idiot from making an informed opinion.
Wow. I guess that's why they call television programming, "programming". It is as if you can not only manipulate peoples way of thinking but turn smart people into complete malleable fools.
Except of course for the fact that Trump didn't ask them to hack them. If he asked anything at all (seriously) it was for the Russians to provide the emails which the FBI said they likely have anyways. But why let facts get in the way of a good partisan rant.
Pretty much ALL politicians leak classified like a sieve. I suspect that the daily briefs are sufficiently sanitized that the important data, i.e. "means and methods" are sufficiently obscured to the point that the intelligence sources, if not the information, is protected. However, that doesn't always seem to be the case.
Example of this would be the 1998-era reports that the US was listening in on Osama bin Laden's sat phone. Soon after it leaked, bin Laden reportedly ceased using it, destroying the source, if not the means of collecting the data. ( Ops note: even the report of the leak is under dispute, depending on your source. . . .)
But I also suspect that a Candidate briefing is likely only at the "Secret" level. Honestly, it's too much of a risk to brief the really sensitive stuff, aka "SCI", until they've at least been elected. . .
We can hope that he wont at least strip the classification off the material and then have that 0information transferred to an insecure email server.
Look at the bright side, he might say something that breaches national security and they could jail him. Oh wait a minute, maybe not, because when Hillary actually did that very same thing they didn't.
Oh no we mustn't trust Trump.
It originated from a dilapatated Coney Island arcade with a busted up sign and an illegal connection to the power grid.
Yeah it's a sad day in America when we need the Russians to expose our corruption.
Because the Media and the Justice System won't do their damn jobs.
The Russians only exposed wrongdoing by breaking US law. Are you suggesting the US media and judicial system do the same. Seems paradoxical.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
As soon as I saw that real consequences started happening because of the DNC hack, my first thought was, "Hmm, well, some consumer-grade Exchange box sitting on the end of a Comcast connection running without an SSL certificate for two months would be a piece of cake compared to the DNC's infrastructure. Somebody's for sure got those deleted emails." Heck, even Comey himself testified that the FBI was able to reconstitute thousands of work-related emails. Maybe we don't need the Russkies or the script kiddies to give us the emails, our own FBI could fork them over.
Regardless, yeah, I'd like to see those emails. I think 30,000 emails about yoga would be interesting.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
Just because Trump asked Russia to do this, and Russian hackers did this doesn't mean there's a causal relationship.
He didn't "ask Russia to do this". He was joking about Clinton's missing 30,000 emails. Emails that are apparently now a national security concern even though they're just about yoga and Chelsea's wedding, according to Hillary.
Do you have ESP?
Really ?
Hmmm "No reasonable prosecutor would bring the case against Hillary Clinton"
Actually, it's the GOP's insistence that there must be something corrupt to show about the Democrats that lead to all these investigations, yet the results?
Not even as conclusive as the Iran-Contra affair.
They should just start cleaning their own house, otherwise they'll just cement their reputation for crying wolf.
By asking them to release emails. Again the only way he could do that is one of those options.
Unless there is video of him blinking in morse code some other message during that speech, you are completely making shit up to fit what you wish reality is.
Because inside dirt on everyone who might be the next president of the US is always useful? If I were the Russians I'd hack everyone. I would be shocked if they didn't try to hack the RNC, too. And I bet we're hacking them.
That said, the evidenced this hack came from the Russians is circumstantial, and there's no evidence it was a state actor.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
Changing the subject to Russia constantly has been a big help recently. It changes the subject from what we all should be paying attention to, the content of these mails. Instead our attention is diverted away to the man juggling, while the thief picks our pockets clean. This was no ordinary hack, the freaking chairwoman of the DNC has already resigned over it and more resignations will be coming in the days to come. The Democratic Party is not what everyone thought it was
They ridiculed an African-American woman named LaQueenia Gibson. Yes, the Democrats did this. They wanted to use use Bernie Sandersâ(TM) religious beliefs against him in the Democratic primary. They blocked off roads to an event the opposition was hosting. Does any of this sound like Third World banana republic bullshit to you? That's because it is. And it really happened, here, in America.
And let's not forget their greatest crime: subverting the democratic process and the people's will in favor of a crooked, rotten career politician. Disgusting. It's like watching a friend you've known for years suddenly start kicking the crap out of a stray dog, the howling and crying goes on and on but he just doesn't stop. No wonder they want to change the subject to Russia. Articles like this help and are part of the whole rotten problem.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
There does not need to be such a relationship. There merely needs to be a candidate for POTUS who thinks Russia is the US's bestest buddy, and should help that candidate out by hacking his competitor's network to dig up dirt.
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You call off the cuff remarks that are often implausible or borderline retarded "working for it"? I see Trump do precious little actual work. He seems almost willfully ignorant of constitutional and legal matters, and seems to be in no hurry to learn any of these things.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Yes, if you just interpret Trump's bizarre statements in just the right way, with just the right amount of rationalization, suddenly he's a genius!
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Who released STUXNET info for political purposes so as to look important?
That wasn't Trump was it? No. It was the clown who is currently in the office.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
You must work for the media, good spin there. I just have 2 words 'Pentagon Papers'...
Ok. More than 2 words. The media & the Justice Department don't have to break the law to 'do their jobs', the latter has the power of warrants to compel turning over all documentation they want. Given the content of the released e-mails ask yourself if the JD is really doing their jobs by not investigating the 'pay-for-play' comments at a minimum. Why is the media not following up on that? Why has the media, by & large, given the Clinton Foundation and Hillary herself a pass based on verified information in Clinton Cash? No, just let her go on 60 Minutes and throw soft-ball questions at her...let her completely skate on a simple question about whether or not its improper for members of the DNC to favour one person over another (note the question didn't ask about THESE e-mails just 'any attempt')...its a simply 'yes/no' question. How hard is it for that talking head asking the questions to do a simple/quick follow up on her answer eg. 'The question wasn't about this incident, I'm just asking if in your view any attempt to influence the candidate selection is improper.'
Now, don't get me wrong, Trumps a complete ass. But Hillary is NOT the person you want as President either. If the media & JD had been doing their jobs maybe, just maybe the American people would have better candidates than these 2 jokers to vote for.
or
He asked them to release the emails they already have.
I wonder which one it is.
Pretty much this. Donald Trump asked the hackers to release the emails if they have them. Anti-Trump press outlets are reporting it as him asking the hackers to go out and hack Hillary Clinton which is patently false. It further undermines the credibility of the press to have these headlines out there saying Trump is calling on foreign hackers to hack Hillary Clinton... they already hacked her and he is just calling for them to release the missing emails that she illegally deleted in the first place.
It seems that 90% to 95% of what press reporting is out there is agenda driven spin which bends any semblance of the truth beyond its breaking point.
Trump certainly says things that are over the top, but then the press appears to need to take it a step further in their "interpretation" and put words in his mouth that he simply did not say.
I am not a Trump supporter. I really hope that neither Trump or Clinton win as either would be very very bad for the United States, Gov. Johnson appears to be the only rational, not evil, and qualified candidate on the ballot.
But more disturbing than who is going to get elected president is the lack of an Independent free press in the US. That is what is going to kill us.
Trump himself has said that he will make decisions in the Oval Office based on "what he knows beforehand" and "his common sense" not based on pulling enough information from people who know better than he does. In fact, he also claimed that he knows more about the Iraq War than the generals who were in charge of it. Even setting my policy disagreements with him aside, the idea of a President who would make decisions based on the first thing that pops into their head instead of based on getting all of the available information is scary - no matter what party they belong to.
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Pulitzer for Putin!
0 - Trump's comment was pure sarcasm, and all those who didn't get it at the moment also don't get Trump, and won;t get why he will win.
1 - Any questions on why you don't get Trump I will not answer. You won't get the answer either.
2 - Every state is attacking every other state's data, and at every level. Some are more successful than others. If you don't think an individual, moderately technology-capable, state is doing this, then they are entirely successful in hiding their efforts, and their success at getting data is unknown, but non-zero. Do not doubt this. Cyberattacks are the single best example of asymmetrical warfare. It is hugely cheaper to defeat Internet security than it is to implement it. Huge payoff.
3 - This is proof that there is no absolute security, only security making it unprofitable to circumvent or compromised security that the compromise is not yet detected.
4 - The DNC hack is unworthy of the FBI's time - they are a private organization. The DCCC hack is also, but because it has the word 'Congressional' in the name, the FBI will be dragged into it.
5 - If the DCCC hack exposes confidential information with a national security exposure, that is a failure of a congressional caucus dealing with sensitive data improperly. More fast and loose with important data? Probably. Consequences? Not likely.
Whoop. Expect more of these.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Don't forget her cattle futures, or the number of people dead surrounding her. From bodyguards to people directly involved with her, and dying from things like two bullets in the back of the skull after crawling 150ft uphill.
Oh my, citing that oft-discredited Clinton Death List?
Mashiki, are you trying to make yourself look bad?
Do you think the President gets to launch nukes himself? He has a button his desk to fire nukes? Are you really that stupid?
Apparently you are rather ignorant of the process. While the president doesn't have a button on his desk, he does have the authority to order a nuclear strike. Nuclear football
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Hmmm "No reasonable prosecutor would bring the case against Hillary Clinton"
I suspect making an offer that no reasonable prosecutor could refuse falls into that category.
hiLIARy sent and email instructing her staff to remove the classified marking from documents so they could send them unsecure.
FBI Director James Comey testified that there were 3 classified emails that had portion markings on them, that would happen only if her employees removed the header and footer markings of a classified document and missed some of the portion markings in an effort to send them unsecure.
Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
The trigger happy twitter fingers of Trump is what gets the security service guys nervous. He is scheduled to get his first security briefing. There's nothing stopping him from tweeting that information and then blowing up the reaction into another Media Moment for himself.
Hey. Democrats said they wanted a more transparent government when Obama got into office. Maybe the Republicans will actually give it to them.
They keep investigating the HACKS. Not the corruption and crime the hacks expose. THE FBI IS CORRUPT AS FUCK.
You call off the cuff remarks that are often implausible or borderline retarded "working for it"? I see Trump do precious little actual work. He seems almost willfully ignorant of constitutional and legal matters, and seems to be in no hurry to learn any of these things.
And when you consider that the President's main job is to be the public face and representative of the USA and it's people to the governments of the rest of the world and their people, it all seems like electing your drunk uncle to run the family business. He isn't even president yet and I think two countries have considered his entry into their country due to things he's said.
But he has a pathological need for attention.
Presidential candidate understands how media works, film at eleven.
He didn't cite it. You did.
Lerner wasn't fired. She resigned. And now collects $100K a year in pension benefits. No one was fired. In fact, I can't think of a single person this administration ever fired.
Won't Russia rid me of this meddling Democrat?
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
You should be able to provide a quote, then.
James Clapper is a serial liar, as shown by repeatedly perjuring himself in front of Congress, with his lies laid bare the following day by Snowden.
You mean if you interpret it the way he said it, instead of the insane logical leap your have to make about hacking an offline server.
Does anyone think, if there is a President Trump, that both the Republican and Democrat leadership won't have Articles of Impeachment pre-written, just fill in the blanks? With all the bridges to the rest of the GOP that Trump has napalmed, he would be impeachment bait, big-time. He'd have to watch his step very carefully, or he'd be bounced onto the sidewalk on Pennsylvania Avenue so hard the cement would crack.
In fact, he also claimed that he knows more about the Iraq War than the generals who were in charge of it.
I thought what he said was that he knows more about ISIS than the generals...
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
Except you're wrong - Here's the whole thing in context. Start at about 5:40
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
From the article that you linked:
***Kirby confirmed the Times report but then said it appears that in both instances the markings were the result of “human error” during the development of “call sheets,” which are memos that contain information that can be used when talking to foreign leaders. The department marks a portion of the call sheets as “confidential” — the lowest level of classified information — until the secretary makes a decision whether or not to call the foreign leaders. He explained that this is done to give the secretary time to make a decision and to avoid potential embarrassment if it turns out that the secretary decides not to call the foreign leader.
Kirby said based on the email traffic, it appears that Clinton had already made the decision to call then Malawi President Joyce Banda and Annan, so the “confidential” markings should have been removed when Hanley sent the emails.***
The US is hacking every nation in the world. They even Hacked Merkel cell phone.
Why is anyone, let alone the party in power and presumably the ones signed off on this hacking or at least let it persist, bitching about being hacked themselves?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
The classification wasn't stripped; it had not gone through classification yet.
The server wasn't insecure and it has never been shown to have been breached. It was an unauthorized server and considering the quality of work that gov contractors do it was most likely much more secure.
I'm not aware of anything besides the quote above, here it is again: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press"
This quote, with no other context, makes it sound as though Trump is asking Russia for help in getting elected. I thought I was pretty clear when I said that before. I need no further input, blinks or otherwise, to read that quote and see that Trump is asking Russia for help in getting elected. It comes from the part where he asks Russia for help in getting elected and then says that they'll be rewarded if they do so.
While the president doesn't have a button on his desk, he does have the authority to order a nuclear strike. Nuclear football
Speaking of ignorance of the process. This is a myth also. The release of nuclear weapons and their use depends on several complex situations and who has that authority has changed through out the years. But at no point in the history after WWII has any president had the authority order a nuclear strike completely on his own, unless it is a response to an attack U.S. mainland or those of her allies.
The President can not simply get out of bed, put on his house slippers, wonder down to the oval office and nuke someone. I believe as it currently stands the use of nuclear weapons requires a 3 step process. First the recommendation has to come from the Joint Chief of Staffs. This recommendation has to go through the Secretary of Defense, who has to approve the use. Then the recommendation goes to the presidents desk for approval.
It's at this point that if all three are in agreement then the president will order the release of the codes from the "nuclear football." Most importantly the Secretary of Defense has to confirm the release of these codes too. Only when these conditions are met can nuclear weapons be used.
Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification
Oh I didn't have to cite it. Many of those cases actually did happen. But you did know that said snopes death list uses rational wiki for most of their sources on that? Yeah, there's that really credible list. Rational wiki, a site so in deep with conspiracy theories that it makes truthers look sane and balanced.
Om, nomnomnom...
Of course, you didn't have to cite it, this is an informal message board, not a court of law. You can claim anything you want in it.
You mean besides it makes you look crazy? Up next you'll claim that Hillary is an upstanding person and was all for the terror designation for Boko Haram as a terrorist group right? OH wait...she was actively against it so friends of hers(including the Obama's and their friends) could cash in on money relating to it. Remember #bringbackourgirls and all that SJW feel-good activism? Yeah. You support one of the worst politicians in modern history.
Om, nomnomnom...
I pretty much stopped listening when BILL CLINTON gave a choked, emotional fireside description of how wonderful his life with Hilary has been and what a wonderful marriage they've had together.
The press just lapped that shit up without a *whisper* of irony or humor.
I'd expect that from the party faithful, but from journalists that claim neutrality? Think about that.
-Styopa
Oops. You're right. Though, in my defense Trump has said so many crazy things it's hard to keep track at times.
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