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Google's Open YOLO Project Will Remove the Need For Passwords On Android (thenextweb.com)
An anonymous reader writes via a report on The Next Web: Google is partnering with password management service Dashlane to build what they're calling Open YOLO (You Only Login Once), a new API that will allow Android apps to securely access your login credentials to sign you in without any fuss. The project is open source, which means anyone can scrutinize the code used to build it and find bugs, or even contribute and improve the API. That also means that it'll be available for other password management services to implement in their tools. Dashlane will be the first to integrate it; the company noted in a blog post that other services are also collaborating on this project and will likely to follow soon. It also hopes that Open YOLO will eventually launch on other operating systems as well.
It's like, how about we just let everybody look at our shit, and fuck privacy already, right?\
Let's just try it and see what happens. Why not?
What could possibly go wrong?
Or security when someone runs off with your phone. But it's all good because YOLO.
Another terrible idea thought up by some bored ding-dong at Google.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Now all my online accounts can have one point of hacking failure.
GREAT idea.
Didn't Douglas Adams write about this?
Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
You don't use the same password for your email as you use for your bank account because you want to make sure that when one is compromised, the other is not.
Using a single login is just a slightly easier version of using the same password for all your accounts.
It is JUST as stupid as using the same password for your every account.
The only difference is that the people with your password are promising not to steal money from you outright.
They don't promise to respect your privacy in any way, because they are planning on abusing the crap out of it.
Trusting someone that's outright plan is to abuse your trust is not a smart thing to do.
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Now they'll be able to track you all over the web from one convenient login. No thanks. Not using it.
People *really* need to start kicking back against all this crap now. It's almost too late. Soon the internet will be single log, in total tracking, no anonymity, no freedom of information etc. etc.
Lets reimplement OpenID! Now with 100% more YOLO.
I hate single sign on there is no reason I shouldn't be able to login to a separate account for email and for youtube. Leave the apps separate please!
Minimum threshold fixed. Thanks!
So it's similar to the many different SSO products on the market for corporate use, but made for personal use. We implemented SSO at work earlier this year. Some of our apps are able to integrate directly into it (and it links back to Active Directory) like Google Apps and Salesforce. Other apps it just acts as a password manager and will paste in their login info for them once the user enters it once. Having the same concerns about having all this accessible if you break one account, we made it harder to break into that one account. We enforce 2 factor authentication, so you need a mobile device linked to your account that sends a confirmation in. All mobile devices connecting to our systems have to have PIN's on them and wipe after 10 bad tries. So for someone to break into a user account, even if they get the password, they still can't login online with it unless they physically also have the users phone, and have managed to unlock that as well. With the users password they could login to a workstation at the office, but they'd still get the 2FA prompt before they can get at e-mail or any other web based apps.
This is incredible... why in the world would I want to allow a single-point compromise (i.e., hacked phone) result in total control of all of my accounts? Creepy and stupid. I really think google developers are out of control. The company products are getting less and less attractive.
Yeah I'll probably never use that app, but I find the idea of an open API super useful, because I'm sure someone will implement an open source app that I can trust, and thanks to the API, it will be supported everywhere.
It's be stupid to use this with your bank account. But I do have a dozen or so forums I occasionally post on and other sites which really shouldn't require an account, but they force you to make one to get access (e.g. they only let you read 3 forum posts a day anonymously). Those are basically throwaway accounts so I use the same password with them anyway. Something like this would be handy for that. Though as it's been pointed out, OpenID already tries to do that.
It's actually safer than re-using the same password on multiple sites as I've been doing. If you use the same password, if one site gets hacked, they have your password to all the other sites. With YOLO or OpenID, since the login confirmation is between the site and YOLO/OpenID, the damage is limited to the site which got hacked. They only get access to all your accounts if they hack YOLO/OpenID or your computer.
Because people don't log into ads, and advertisers want you to log in to view ads. Now shut up and accept what Google is going to do with their phone that they let you use.
YOLO - You Only Lose Once
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Trusting someone that's outright plan is to abuse your trust is not a smart thing to do.
(Suppressing my inner grammar-nazi) So, who do you think is not going to abuse your trust? Of course, they'll be the next takeover target...
Oh, I'm sorry sir, I thought you were referring to me, Mr. Wensleydale.
Clearly, this is a slippery slope to mandating that you use the same password for everything. /sarcasm
Obviously, it isn't .. for a bunch of low-importance websites, since normal people have dozens of logins at this point, you can at least share login details among similarly-ranked importance levels. And as somebody else pointed out, at least now when you regain control of a single login, you simultaneously regain control of all associated accounts rather than trusting that you're organized and have the time to go through and change them all.
So no, it is not JUST as stupid, and your entire point is predicated on the absurd notion that everyone is too dumb not to use the same login for their offshore tax haven accounts and their Reddit account except you.
"Old man yells at systemd"
The SSO/YOLO will be here, we're lazy humans. So I need:
First level with a day use password, easy to "read", some "write" ability.
Second level an "elevated" privileges of the account etc. must have high barrier of entry, different password, call-me-in-person back to verify (not automated though like 2-step verification), single use codes etc. Some execute this when logging from a new device. That's good but not enough.
E.g. I want to check my bank account - "daily use". I want to conduct transfers or change password - "elevated" and hence much tougher authentication.
This way if my first SSO/YOLO gets broken in I could wipe out all the other password accounts in one step with my "elevated" and unbroken password that is not a YOLO. Yes this may not be convenient to execute but hopefully it does not happen very often?
On the other hand 2 step verification every time I use something is too annoying...
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It would be easier for me (a human) to remember and/or generate passwords if the rules where consistent across all web sites.
4wdloop
From the limited information, it looks like this is probably dependent on a centralized server somewhere doing the authentication. I would much prefer a system that is entirely between you and whatever sites you log into, with no central server to go down and take all your logins with it. SQRL seems like a pretty good approach. (But we're probably going to get stuck with a hundred different competing incompatible systems.)
You don't use the same password for your email as you use for your bank account because you want to make sure that when one is compromised, the other is not.
If a thief has your email, then most likely they can use that to reset your bank account password.
Ideology: A tool used primarily to avoid the bother of thinking.
Secretly We Are Google And yes, welcome to OpenID circa a decade ago...
Authorization? Why authorization? Fuck it, we have your data anyway.
It's better and worse.
if somebody controls your googleaccount he controls everything and probably even knows where the login works. Okay. But you can choose a strong password and 2FA. You will probably be secure and if there is a hack, it has a large impact and everyone will react.
If you use the same password everywhere, people do not know where else you used it (but can guess with your e-mail and password combo), but you have a lot of different hashes, some insecure and sometimes maybe not hashed at all. So if then a weak site loses it (and the odds that a site without good security doesn't use good hashing either are large), they have your password for everything.
If your password gets lost, you need to reset it on 100 sites. If your google acc ist hacked, you need to lock it one time fastly, then change the password one time to a secure one.
So both approaches have ups and downs. And both lose to one-password-per-site with 2FA per site where available.