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TorrentFreak Interviews The Pirate Bay Staff, As the Torrent Website Celebrates 13th Anniversary (torrentfreak.com)

For most people out there, The Pirate Bay has been their on and off go to source for torrents. The website this month celebrates its 13th anniversary. TorrentFreak spoke with several crew members of the "world's most resilient torrent site" this week. Here's an excerpt of the conversation:While they are not happy with the circumstances, they do say that the site has an important role to fulfil in the torrent community. "TPB is as important today as it was yesterday, and its role in being the galaxy's most resilient torrent site will continue for the foreseeable future," Spud17 says. "Sure, TPB has its flaws and glitches but it's still the go-to site for all our media needs, and I can see TPB still being around in 20 or 30 years time, even if the technology changes," she adds. Veteran TPB-crew member Xe agrees that TPB isn't perfect but points to the site's resilience as a crucial factor that's particularly important today. "TPB ain't perfect. There are plenty of things wrong with it, but it is simple, steadfast and true," Xe tells TorrentFreak. "So it's no real surprise that it is once more the destination of choice or that it has survived for so long in spite of the inevitable turnover of crew." And resilient it is. Thirteen years after the site came online, The Pirate Bay is the "King of Torrents" once again.

36 comments

  1. After Reed Hastings called Netflix bottled water.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's nice to see TPB acting as the municpal supply!

    Nowt wrong with tap water!

  2. Discussion on Pirate Bay by rockout · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What are the chances that the discussion here will focus on the Pirate Bay's remarkable resilience and not devolve in 3 minutes into a pro/anti piracy collection of rants?

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    1. Re:Discussion on Pirate Bay by Falos · · Score: 1

      slim none blah blah

      However you feel about that drama, you can still appreciate the idea of a site which demonstrates (yet another example of) the hard reality that "you can't stop the signal". At best, you can stop a repeater.

    2. Re:Discussion on Pirate Bay by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      I'm anti-piracy, but that's not reason for me to rant about it. I'm also anti-DRM, and pro unrestricted access to any form of media or info under a fair price, so you can bet I've lost all hopes of having the world shaped according to my views.

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    3. Re:Discussion on Pirate Bay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] you can bet I've lost all hopes of having the world shaped according to my views.

      Haven't we all?

    4. Re:Discussion on Pirate Bay by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      However you feel about that drama, you can still appreciate the idea of a site which demonstrates (yet another example of) the hard reality that "you can't stop the signal". At best, you can stop a repeater.

      Don't be silly, of course you can... The government just doesn't care about this all that much...

      When is the last time the people running TPB were shot?

      Do that a few times and you may find fewer takers for the job...

    5. Re:Discussion on Pirate Bay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you asking me to name everything in human history that persisted through a few people shot?

    6. Re: Discussion on Pirate Bay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. The One Percenters succeeded. The world belongs to them and is being shaped according to their will.

    7. Re:Discussion on Pirate Bay by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I view it as a simple binary choice. Piracy will always exist, and be rampant, without the use of draconian measures to prevent it. Not just in the form of very restrictive DRM, but very strict legal measures to back it up and restrictions on technology. Those measures have to do away with little things like trials or presumption of innocence, because the sheer number of infringements would overwhelm the court system otherwise. Look at the DMCA: It makes it trivial for a copyright holder to pull anything they want off the internet with nothing more than an accusation, backed up by no evidence, with no penalty for errors or abuse, and it's still barely making a dent. This means you can't have a world where there is a little bit of piracy and a little bit of restriction: It has to be all or nothing. I choose the piracy - even if it means eventual economic losses to the media industry, the loss of pop stars and big-budget television seems acceptable.

      I am reconsidering this though, in light of certain more recent evidence: Piracy rates may be rampant, but the entertainment industry seems to be flourishing. Hollywood breaks their records every year, usually with some sci-fi-action film that should have maximum appeal to the demographic most likely to pirate. Music revenues are up as well, as legal downloads have overtaken the loss of CD sales. This is not what I predicted - I underestimated just how successful legal media sources would be. Netflix is killing piracy.

    8. Re:Discussion on Pirate Bay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] you can bet I've lost all hopes of having the world shaped according to my views.

      Haven't we all?

      Unfortunately not.

      The people who hope to shape the world according to their views are the ones to be afraid of.
      One persons view seldom fits all people.

  3. Re:Thieves and crooks! by MitchDev · · Score: 1

    Democrats and republicans!
    Religion and businessmen!

  4. Future is walled gardens for hardware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and increasing encryption. All encryption and walled garden hardware need to do is make it ridiculously expensive enough to delay crackers. Companies are researching encrypted computing where your files are completely locked away so that you can't easily make duplicates all it needs to do delay.

    Pirate bay will be made increasingly irrelevant by advances in file encryption.

    1. Re: Future is walled gardens for hardware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And everybody will want these devices. And copy protection has worked so well before. And so on...

    2. Re: Future is walled gardens for hardware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Denuvo has worked at preventing games from getting imediately cracked, note that encyption doesn't need special hardware. Also most people have shown through mmo's and online drm like steam they understand what software they are taking up and what it is doing. AKA the corporate world will just push obfuscation to the point its costly for the average user. DRM has been making inroads in videogames because you cut the software into two pieces and hold on to a part you don't release as the drm.

    3. Re: Future is walled gardens for hardware... by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      I just bought Tomb Raider for Linux today. That came out for Windows in 2013... So delay is not a fix, just a delay. (And I bought it because I support native Linux ports. And Humble had it on sale... :) )

  5. Re:Thieves and crooks! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Which is sad, the Torrent technology has a lot of promise, being that it was mostly used for pirated media gives it a bad name, where many ISP just will block it.

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  6. It's still legit? by Dracos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is it still legit and not an FBI honeypot? That's what a lot of people have been wondering since the strange happenings of the last takedown attempt.

    1. Re:It's still legit? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Would be FBI give a shit? I don't think they would bother with individual downloaders.

      Anyway, the site is being watched by far too many people, and any malware injected would be quickly spotted and dissected. Look at the lengths they want to keep their malware secret in the Playpen prosecutions of people accused of looking at child pornography, they wouldn't waste it on some people downloading MP3s.

      TPB is fast, clean (they don't even have downloads any more, just magnet links) and impossible to kill. It's cultural importance can't be underestimated.

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  7. Does it have porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good porn, like stuff I haven't seen before?

    1. Re:Does it have porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like women?

  8. PRESUME IT'S A LIE (FBI) (FBI) (FBI) [singing] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ANNIVERSARY ANNIVERSARY WINDOWS 10... etc
    "Ask Slashdot: What torrent sites do YOU use?"

    Fucking bait stories, side-bait stories, side-busts, and other various lies.

    You should all know that if you hit Cloudflare captchas, it is tracked and monitored by the US Government. FBI just like this site is now.

    To use TPB you have to use javascript unless you use a magnet now. If you enable javascript you are tracked. It switches from thepiratebay.se to thepiratebay.org too. The vast majority of TPB mirrors and proxies also go through Cloudflare.

    All honeypot, just like Slashpot now. As I enter this into the comment field I see a comment that says

    Re:

            Would be FBI give a shit? I don't think they would bother with individual downloaders.

            Anyway, the site is being watched by far too many people, and any malware injected would be quickly spotted and dissected.

    Tying this story about TorrentFreak seems really smart and FBI thought it was clever to mention a different "Anniversary" than Windows 10 Anniversary... really this is just a fishing story.

    FBI you bring drugs into USA, you brought in most of the cocaine in the 90's that was turned into crack. There are adult crack babies now that the tax payers are paying to incarcerate. You distribute child porn. You still bring in drugs. You are also part of the NWO/9-11-2001 plot.

    Treason mother fuckers. Die here die there die everywhere.

  9. Re:How I met Necky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The world would be a better place if you committed suicide. Do it. Do it, faggot.

  10. What does that even mean? by tacokill · · Score: 1

    Please explain. How would TPB be a honeypot? The only files they offer for download are torrent files, which in and of themselves, aren't illegal. So why would the FBI or anyone else make it a honeypot? What would they learn about the users from that?

    1. Re:What does that even mean? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Downloaders, nothing worth knowing. But uploaders? They could trace the people who submit the torrents in the first place, and those might be worth the effort. With a bit of luck it might even lead to some of the high-profile groups.

    2. Re:What does that even mean? by rockout · · Score: 2

      Seems doubtful. Aren't most of the files anyone cares about first being uploaded to newsgroups? After that, anyone can grab a movie and try to be the first to put it on TPB. Catching that guy isn't going to get you anywhere.

      If you think TPB is a honeypot, I've got a few questions about 9/11 and jet contrails that I need to ask you. You know, before I politely excuse myself and find a normal person to talk to.

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    3. Re:What does that even mean? by zennling · · Score: 1

      hasn't it happened before where the torrent files are being provided by the rights holders themselves, to get the ip's of users? because ot the way torrents work, they are actually uploading the file as well and can be prosecuted as sharing the file?

    4. Re:What does that even mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hasn't it happened before where the torrent files are being provided by the rights holders themselves, to get the ip's of users?
      because ot the way torrents work, they are actually uploading the file as well and can be prosecuted as sharing the file?

      One would assume that the rights holder in that case have his/her own consent to distribute the file.
      Anyone downloading the file from that user would also have that consent.
      The question is regarding the redistribution, but given how torrents work it can be argued that if the rights holder distributes the file on a network like that the permission to redistribute is implied.

      If a rights holder would engage in such activity then they would have to keep it secret. Otherwise they would not be able to prosecute the ones downloading the torrent.

      On the other hand my idea of how the legal system and copyright works doesn't seem to test well.
      Every box of World of Warcraft came with a "free week" to give to someone and copying of the game was encouraged.
      Despite this permission/encouragement from the rights holder the game files were part of the case against The Pirate Bay and the founders have served jail time for redistributing them.

    5. Re:What does that even mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uploading a torrent file isn't illegal as well.

  11. Aargh! by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

    Aargh!

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  12. Re:Thieves and crooks! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    Torrent technology had a single niche. People who needed to:
    1. Distribute tons of data.
    2. Do so on a zero or near-zero budget, otherwise they'd just use a conventional HTTP server or CDN.
    There are not many groups who fit both those criteria. Pirates, and linux distros. Both use torrents.

  13. And PIRACY DISCUSSION by rockout · · Score: 1

    Well, that took longer than I thought, but there it is.

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  14. Re:How I met Necky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come now, he claims to have started a Swedish trend with his neckbeard. You don't have to be a Scientologist to see that his facial hair is fair game.

  15. the article's point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So that article was just about how they still Kickass ?

  16. Re: Thieves and crooks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be a great way to distribute all kinds of content, software, streaming media. Unfortunately the imaginary property Mafia has successfully criminalized the technology. The same thing happened with ed2k/kademlia, also a very promising technology killed by a medieval guild.