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20% of Scientific Papers On Genes Contain Conversion Errors Caused By Excel, Says Report (winbeta.org)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via WinBeta: A new report from scientists Mark Ziemann, Yotam Eren, and Assam El-Osta says that 20% of scientific papers on genes contain gene name conversion errors caused by Excel. In the scientific article, titled "Gene name errors are widespread in the scientific literature," article's abstract section, the scientists explain: "The spreadsheet software Microsoft Excel, when used with default settings, is known to convert gene names to dates and floating-point numbers. A programmatic scan of leading genomics journals reveals that approximately one-fifth of papers with supplementary Excel gene lists contain erroneous gene name conversions."

It's easy to see why Excel might have problems with certain gene names when you see the "gene symbols" that the scientists use as examples: "For example, gene symbols such as SEPT2 (Septin 2) and MARCH1 [Membrane-Associated Ring Finger (C3HC4) 1, E3 Ubiquitin Protein Ligase] are converted by default to '2-Sep' and '1-Mar', respectively. Furthermore, RIKEN identifiers were described to be automatically converted to floating point numbers (i.e. from accession '2310009E13' to '2.31E+13'). Since that report, we have uncovered further instances where gene symbols were converted to dates in supplementary data of recently published papers (e.g. 'SEPT2' converted to '2006/09/02'). This suggests that gene name errors continue to be a problem in supplementary files accompanying articles. Inadvertent gene symbol conversion is problematic because these supplementary files are an important resource in the genomics community that are frequently reused. Our aim here is to raise awareness of the problem."
You can view the scientific paper in its entirety here.

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  1. Wait, what? by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the thing that really surprises me is that all my professors told me it was hard to get published, when failing to make sure your data was correctly entered into whatever spreadsheet program you used to for number crunching (and creating graphs) was one of the dead basics of working there. Yet 1 in 5 papers has notable failures here? And nobody noticed before publishing them? What kinds of major errands have gotten in, then, if basic spot checks are getting failed?

    1. Re:Wait, what? by AJWM · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know how much number crunching was actually involved here. I suspect the problem comes from using a spreadsheet as a database.

      Because databases are, you know, hard.

      And "errands" creep in all over the place. ;)

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    2. Re:Wait, what? by pem · · Score: 5, Funny
      > Spreadsheets are wonderful things...

      Citation needed.

    3. Re:Wait, what? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 3, Funny

      What kinds of major errands have gotten in...

      Grocery shopping, filling the gas tank and picking up the dry cleaning.

  2. LaTeX by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why in God's name are you using a Microsoft product for scientific documents?

    1. Re:LaTeX by NotInHere · · Score: 4, Funny

      LaTeX is not free of problems either. They are just different. If you care, you take the time to fix them, if you don't you don't fix them. Simple as that.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci...

    2. Re:LaTeX by GodelEscherBlecch · · Score: 3, Funny

      still use Excel to do the crunching

      Good god, I hope not. When I saw the title for this article I thought for sure it was referring to errors caused by the aggregation of questionable digits resulting from machine precision floating point operations, not something as simple as type conversions. Excel has been the bane of my existence for years because testers keep trying to use it to verify results from a data processing framework I wrote where the operations for some use cases involve 20+ digit decimals. No matter how many times I explain to them the concepts of machine vs. arbitrary precision, decimal precision vs. accuracy, rational vs. decimal representations of numbers, etc. the spurious 'rounding error / does not match the XLS' bug reports just keep coming. Drives me nuts. The idea that scientists may be making the same mistakes with important research is kind of scary.

      Then again, I am usually shocked by the amount of error considered tolerable in the scientific / EE applications of the framework. The real anal retentives are the financial use cases, which tend to include 'penny allocation' algorithms for distributing fractions of pennies left as remainders from dollar amounts in the 10s of millions, and they absolutely will file a critical severity issue over a .00000000001 discrepancy.

  3. Not strictly Excel's fault by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those conversions look like cases where the column type during import was left at "General" instead of being set to "Text" as it should have been, telling Excel to try and infer the actual type from the format of the column's contents. It's an awkward situation where the user should be telling Excel what the data type for each column is, but it's not strictly Excel's fault for doing what the user told it to do. IMO Excel should be either changed to not have a default type and to not allow an import until the user's selected a type for each column, or it should throw up an error if it infers different data types for a column for different rows.

  4. Re:Excel can kiss my 5" wide anus! by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 3, Funny

    The VisiCalc Song
     
    [ala' "Let's Get Physical", made popular by Olivia Newton-John]
     
    I'm savin' all of those back issues of "Byte"
    Making the micro conversion
    I gotta handle text just right
    Ya know what I mean?
     
    I took you to a local computer store
    Then to a compu-fair shopping spree
    There's nothing left to purchase now
    'less it's, programmability...
     
    [BEGIN Chorus (invoked later)]
    Let's get VisiCalc*, VisiCalc
    I wanna get Visi-Calc, let's invoke VisiCalc
    Let me hear your modem talk, your floppies squawk
    Let me hear your I/O rock...
    [END Chorus]
     
    I've used paper, I've used wood
    Tried to keep my pen on the table
    It's getting hard, this hardware stuff
    Ya know what I mean?
     
    I'm sure you understand what eleven's* do
    You know the software intimately
    You gotta know, you're bringing out
    the VisiPlot* for me...
     
    [Invoke Chorus]

  5. Not even in top 10 mistakes by burtosis · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just do a google scholar search for large hardon collider. None of them will ever live that down, doubly so when it's the title

  6. Re:It was user error, not a spreadsheet problem .. by dcollins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It could rather be a conversion error. For example, if you have the original in a CSV file (possibly output from one program) where strings have no lead colon, and then load into Excel or LibreOffice, it will (by default) turn everything it can into a numeric format. One needs to be aware of that and ask that the column be converted to text -- which is easy to overlook if you have a column that's mostly non-ambiguous, but somewhere far below is a single date-like name.

    I've gotten hit by this many times with CSVs coming out of our school's learning management system, with long numeric student IDs that get turned into scientific notation in the spreadsheet application. In some sense that's easier to catch, because it will hit a whole column of data at once; but even so it's distressing how often I need to backtrack to resolve that.

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  7. Software trying to be too smart by WaffleMonster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Type inference in excel has wasted countless hours of my time trying to make sense of corruption caused by third parties using excel. Has gotten to the point where we actively recommend people avoid excel when handling any data they care about. I do fault excel itself because these errors are pervasive. They could have better structured the data imports or made them less creative or asked users for more feedback or have the import do a pass over the entire datasets checking for outliers that may suggest a different type.

    When a critical mass is "doing it wrong" becomes pointless and counterproductive in the real world to continue to point fingers at users. Tools are supposed to be useful and if they tend not to be then that's on them.

  8. A minor ephiphany by vtcodger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Without diminishing the other comments, it crossed my mind that the issue here is probably not whether Excel was used in the research. It's one of getting backup (supplementary) data into publishable form. That'd occur after the authors(s) had written their paper using their normal toolset for their work and gotten the paper through review. At this point, they are supposed to package up their data in some format dictated by the journal they are publishing in. Apparently .xls is an acceptable format -- which is not irrational. The format is documented and widely supported.

    Anyway, the authors are just cleaning up and getting on with their lives -- cleaning the glassware (if any), paying any bills, archiving their data and scripts, returning borrowed equipment, etc. They are going to convert their data to .xls using whatever quick and dirty tool they can find. I doubt they are going to type tens of thousands of genome codes in manually. They'll use some tool they got from a buddy or write something themselves in Perl or Python or whatever scripting language they know. And they'll check the output to make sure that Excel loads it and that it's about the right length and that the first page or so and the last page look reasonable. And off it goes.

    I don't think most folks outside of IT (and probably most in IT) are all that aware of Excel's flaky and sometimes bizarre data conversions. And, assuming that there's an unambiguous one to one translation between gene codes and excel mangled gene codes, this probably isn't a big deal. Anyone using the archived data will scratch their heads, maybe ask around, figure out what's happened, fix the data, and get on with THEIR research.

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  9. Re: Including this one? by Maritz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see how it helps with people who don't spell very well. But for people who can, it's an outright hinderance. Also, they should grow up and add profanity, The puritan dictionary is a ducking disgrace, utterly shot.

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  10. Re:It was user error, not a spreadsheet problem .. by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, yeah, the single quote - so obvious that the solution to the problem of Excel's stupid, stupid, stupid default behavior of *silently modifying your data* is to put a freaking Single Quote character in front of every cell data element.

    Why can't the default behavior be that the data is just not modified, at all, unless I tell Excel I want it to be.