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Sony Tries To Remove News Articles About PlayStation 4 Slim Leak From The Internet (techdirt.com)

Sony is expected to announce two new PlayStation 4 consoles at a scheduled event on September 7th in New York City, but as that date nears more leaks of the consoles have emerged. The most recent leak appears to show the upcoming PlayStation 4 Slim, which Sony is trying to remove from the internet by taking down news articles from social media accounts about the leak. Erik Kain via @erikkain on Twitter tweeted (Tweet no longer exists): "Sony issued a takedown and had this post removed from my Facebook page: https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY (Warning: may be paywalled)." Techdirt reports: "[The Forbes post] references the work Eurogamer did in visiting the leaker of the image to confirm the console is for real (it is), as well as generating its own image and even video of the console working for its story on the leak. But if you go today to the Eurogamer post about the leak, the video has been replaced by the following update. UPDATE, 7.30pm: Upon taking legal advice, we have removed the video previously referenced in this article. Left unsaid is whether or not any contact had been made by Sony with Eurogamer, thus prompting this 'legal advice,' but one can imagine that being the case, particularly given Sony's threats to social media users sharing images and reporting of Sony leaks and, more to the point, threats against any media that might report on those leaks."

85 comments

  1. Why by sexconker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why would you comply with such a demand? It's newsworthy and they have no standing to have it removed.

    1. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From a logistical perspective NDAs make sense. There is nothing to say the product will or will not actually exist by launch no would it necessarily contain the same specs.

      I cannot stand Sony but I'm tired of these site "leaking" information that may or may not even be real. Getting there "first" should also mean you risk being the first to be sued too. To give an example, what if it came out they dumped X vendor for Y when in fact they didn't? I'd imagine more then just X vendor's stock taking a hit.

    2. Re:Why by Falos · · Score: 1

      Their advisors have no incentive to keep it, and some to warn "absolutely zero risk" is "wisest".

      Of course, that's pretty much why intimidation works.

    3. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe they can get Peter Thiel to help them protect Sony's privacy.

      PETER THIEL: WORLD PRIVACY POLICE!

    4. Re:Why by Desler · · Score: 1

      Because it's easy to tell others what to do when you aren't being threatened with a lawsuit?

    5. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Rich SJWs move into dangerous ghettos and rapidly gentrify the place, raising property values and driving all the poor and violent riffraff out.
      All while sitting on their high horses, calling other white people racists if they move away from areas that are becoming ghettos.

      SJWs are bigots in egalitarian clothing.

    6. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Fuck off. Gawker braided a rope and then hung themselves with it in a very public fashion. Hoist by their own petard. Or by their own bootstraps, if that's your lingua franca.

    7. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      This has nothing to do with NDAs. A member of the public bought this unit on the open market and Eurogamer sent a photographer over to capture it. They have every right to publish.

    8. Re:Why by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      The Pentagon papers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... showed that to the US press. Once the press has a news worthy event its free to publish.

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    9. Re:Why by Falos · · Score: 1

      Ghettos have real threat, for the sake of this argument.

      Sony is faking threat.

      Like a pufferfish.

    10. Re:Why by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Oh, I've been threatened. I've never had anyone dumb enough to even try to follow up on their laughable bullshit. The closest anyone came was crying to the police and having them contact me with bogus "we'll open a harassment investigation" horseshit. Guess what never happened.

    11. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      These sites reporting it haven't signed an NDA.

    12. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The unit hasn't been released, someone in the business has broken their T&C for some l337 attention or quick money. Whoever passed it on didn't think the both the mac address and serial number will get back to Sony sooner or later.

      Seeing as the device is launched in just over two weeks, it's sad how excited dweebs are getting over a terrible looking dull box. Precisely two days ago that ghastly design was being declared as fake by rubbish rags like eurogamer.

    13. Re:Why by bloodhawk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      well legal matters aside places like Eurogamer are dependent for their survival on the good will of gaming companies. Try staying relevant when your reviewers no longer have early access to games or receive devices for testing and reviewing before release.

    14. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And whose fault is it that a nice-looking house drives up property prices?

      The property owner.

    15. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree. Gawker failed to lick the boots of our glorious masters the rich and powerful, and... *sobs* sometimes made fun of them! THEY EXPOSED THEM TO MOCKERY! The MONSTERS!

      You know Thiel is going after Politico now? Because Politico published stories about Melania Trump's wife's immigration status being at odds with her husband's rhetoric.

    16. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize it's not on store shelves yet, right? So for someone to have "bought it on the open market," they would have had to either "actually bought it on the black market" or "actually stole a prototype unit themselves."

      They had no more "right to publish" then they had a right to "purchase stolen property," no matter how you try to sugar-coat it.

    17. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are game review publishing sites. They are completely at the mercy of companies like Sony to survive. pissing them off is not in the best interest of their own survival.

    18. Re:Why by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      or

      a store has stock already and some stockboy put it out early without knowing because they dont play games and dont care?

      happens all the time

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    19. Re:Why by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      They don"t, but uninvolved (in the crime) people further downstream do have the right to take a picture and publish.

      In the US, anyway.

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    20. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you comply with such a demand?

      Two words: streisand effect.

      There is no way that Sony doesn't know that trying to get it removed will instead do the exact opposite. Which means they intended to invoke the streisand effect all along. So everyone should remove such articles, and let their plan backfire right in their face.

      What if Sony really is that stupid? Well, people should occasionally still comply just to throw off any companies who would try to leverage the streisand effect.

    21. Re: Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes someone fucked over Sony that is associated with Sony.

      I don't see how this is Eurogamer's fault or concern. You shouldn't get punished for pointing out the king has no clothes.

    22. Re:Why by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

      Except they instead put up a video of some dude fucking, and ignored a court order to take it down. Protip: Dont ignore court orders.

    23. Re:Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds unusual (to my ears anyway) for Politico to do that, but, hey if you say they did that, they must have done that.

      (In case you're an idiot and were talking about Gawker, apparently under the impression it's still running, a sex video involving a has-been celebrity is hardly worth $140M in damages. The fact that someone does something bad does not mean any penalty is deserving. If you disagree with that, come tell me the last time you went one mile over the speed limit, and I'll happily punish you by pistol whipping you and killing you afterwards.)

    24. Re:Why by D00MSlayer · · Score: 1

      Wait Melania Trump has a wife?!

    25. Re:Why by TechForensics · · Score: 1

      Even persons 100% in the right will decline to spend $1,000,000. in legal fees to prove it. Everyone sued who is in the right faces this dilemma.

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    26. Re:Why by sexconker · · Score: 1

      One million? Court can be expensive, but this is a joke of a "case" that Sony would likely never show up to, let alone file. A completely ignorant person could easily defend themselves against such a thing, presuming they're ever actually served, using the free resources available to them. Just ask the clerk of the court. You'd likely be able to recoup your costs as well.

      Your honor, this is what we published on that date. It is newsworthy, as it depicts a rumored upcoming product our audience, and many of Sony's current and potential customers, are interested in. We are not bound by any agreement with Sony regarding this information, nor did we commit any crime in obtaining it. If Sony believes a crime was committed we will reveal our source to the court for review, and the court can decide whether or not to release that information to Sony. While Sony has various trademark and copyright claims on the purported products depicted in the video, we were not involved in creating the purported product featuring said trademarks, nor are we involved in selling the purported product (nor has Sony claimed that this product is non-genuine and unfit to bear said trademarks). Further, any copyright claims should be dismissed as this is a clear example of fair use - our articles deal with news, reviews, and critical commentary.

    27. Re:Why by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Well, it would make sense...someone has to please her since he obviously is too busy, and likely incapable.

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    28. Re:Why by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Your opinion is noted, however, the courts are not bound by your opinion on the matter. The fact is that Gawker posted a sex video of someone without their permission. This is an actual felony charge in many states. Gawker thumbed their nose at the courts and was smacked down for it.

      The funny thing though is how they were flipping out about the Jennifer Lawrence pictures, but then had the gall to post a sex tape.

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  2. Nothing leaves the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh Sony, when will you get a better legal / PR team?

  3. Streisand Effect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big nose and a!!

  4. Sony's motto is the opposite of old-Google's: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If it's evil, do it. Whether it makes sense or not."

  5. Delete the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In retrospect, the internet was a bad idea

    1. Re:Delete the internet by SScorpio · · Score: 1

      Exactly, we'd have a Buck Rogers or Lost in Space style future if everyone wasn't so busy watching cat videos all the time.

  6. my legal advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Its not illegal to report on news or share news unless there is publication ban, if Sony feels they have been damaged they have option to sue source of leak.

  7. WARNING: Forbes link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Do not click.

    1. Re:WARNING: Forbes link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's the link, haha:
      http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/22/gaming-publication-confirms-leaked-ps4-slim-images-are-the-real-deal/&refURL=http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/22/gaming-publication-confirms-leaked-ps4-slim-images-are-the-real-deal/&refURL=http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/22/gaming-publication-confirms-leaked-ps4-slim-images-are-the-real-deal/&refURL=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY&referrer=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY&referrer=http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/22/gaming-publication-confirms-leaked-ps4-slim-images-are-the-real-deal/&refURL=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY&referrer=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY&referrer=http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/22/gaming-publication-confirms-leaked-ps4-slim-images-are-the-real-deal/&refURL=http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/22/gaming-publication-confirms-leaked-ps4-slim-images-are-the-real-deal/&refURL=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY&referrer=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY&referrer=http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/08/22/gaming-publication-confirms-leaked-ps4-slim-images-are-the-real-deal/&refURL=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY&referrer=https://t.co/fIjP0buTdY#6a40f0a11c99

    2. Re:WARNING: Forbes link by D00MSlayer · · Score: 1

      That's not a link.. That's a hydra! Kill one URL and two will re-appear!

  8. geohot was the last straw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PS2 was the last time Sony got my money. This was the last straw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_America,_Inc._v._Hotz

    XBox & Nintendo now for me only.

    1. Re:geohot was the last straw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PS2 was the last time Sony got my money. This was the last straw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_America,_Inc._v._Hotz

      XBox & Nintendo now for me only.

      PC gaming for the win! Seriously fuck your consoles. Fuck all of them with a slimy moldy dildo and break it off halfway up their anuses.

      Higher performance? Check! Easily upgradable? Check! Not locked to a particular ecosystem? Check! Easily able to pirate games whenever I damn well please? Double-check!

    2. Re:geohot was the last straw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Games exclusive to PC that I care about? ..........

      Kind of a deal breaker.

    3. Re:geohot was the last straw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Exclusive" isn't quite what it used to be. PC gets every XBOX exclusive now, as well as a good chunk of the Playstation ones.

    4. Re:geohot was the last straw by jonwil · · Score: 0

      Ok so if the PC gets ever XBOX game, how can I play LEGO Dimensions on my PC then? Or does that not count since its not an "XBOX exclusive"?

    5. Re:geohot was the last straw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A gaming platform's quality is entirely dependent on the games. Not the specs.

    6. Re:geohot was the last straw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's your fault wanting to play a shit game.

    7. Re:geohot was the last straw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then how did the Playstation 3 survive? It didn't even have games for the first 3 years besides Talledega Nights.

    8. Re:geohot was the last straw by D00MSlayer · · Score: 1

      You make it appear way more complicated than it is. I've built 3 systems in the last decade and a half, and only once did I upgrade the graphics card before making a new build. I've been rocking out a 650Ti for the last 3 years and I haven't had ANY problems playing current games.

      It's only complicated if the user makes it complicated

    9. Re:geohot was the last straw by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It is a hell of a lot cheaper to upgrade a computer than to upgrade a console.

      OMG, the Google grammar checker tells me a lot should be alot...since when?! The spell check says alot is wrong though...they need to take a look at their algorithm.

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  9. Re: Video games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You first

  10. Re:Bottes Timberland Pas Chers Homme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    SPAM advertising an online store (probably selling knockoffs), mod down this crap in a hurry, please.

  11. Original source: by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The pictures were originally uploaded to NeoGAF which Forbes then used. Seems to me that Sony is trying to exploit the Streisand Effect, so I won't link to it because it's just another boring looking black box.

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    1. Re:Original source: by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I could believe that, Sony is really wacked when it comes to marketing. Who can forget the whole mysoginst B$ of ghost busters to drive free advertising, that failed and most everyone is pretty hacked off with Sony. I would suggest the switch away from being controversy dicks and develop some reasonable manners. They seem to have switched into panic mode after a series of failures and really stupid blunders.

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    2. Re:Original source: by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      I could believe that, Sony is really wacked when it comes to marketing. Who can forget the whole mysoginst B$ of ghost busters to drive free advertising, that failed and most everyone is pretty hacked off with Sony. I would suggest the switch away from being controversy dicks and develop some reasonable manners. They seem to have switched into panic mode after a series of failures and really stupid blunders.

      Well, it is a black box so they can probably cry racism if you don't like it.

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    3. Re:Original source: by houghi · · Score: 1

      Because they have the law on their side due to more expensie lawers.

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    4. Re:Original source: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, this is what? a counter-Streisand Effect ?

    5. Re:Original source: by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I could believe that, Sony is really wacked when it comes to marketing. Who can forget the whole mysoginst B$ of ghost busters to drive free advertising, that failed and most everyone is pretty hacked off with Sony

      I have no idea what you're talking about. In what way was Sony misogynistic about the new movie?

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    6. Re: Original source: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony was deleting comments in the

  12. Re:Video games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought homosexuals were busy fucking.

    Are you sure you have your terminology correct?

    CAPTCHA: explicit

  13. Re: Video games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donald Trump is gay and a gamer.

  14. Completely ineffective by el+americano · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Naturally, their tactics have been completely ineffective at stopping the reporting. I have to wonder if they were hoping for the Streisand Effect, where angry gamers would share the PS4 Slim photos to get 'revenge' on Sony. People don't seem to care very much about this iteration of the Playstation, and why should we?

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  15. Re:Video games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But posting on Slashdot whining about what other people do is the pinnacle of life.

  16. Already bought Xbox One S instead, next! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Decided to move from my PS3 to an Xbox One S. I will miss Gran Turismo but that's about it.

    1. Re:Already bought Xbox One S instead, next! by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

      Get Forza 6. Let me know how much you miss GT.

  17. Drunk due to Sony takedown notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If any one asks, the reason I'm catatonic is because I am trying to wipe all my memories of the Playstation 4 Slim that I happened to see yesterday.

    Will keep drinking until all those memories are gone.

  18. So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all the fiasco of PS3, is anyone still interested in sony consoles? do they offer any significant benefits over competitors?

    Sony has been a pain in the ass of gamers, scientists, music lovers, movie lovers and basically anyone who uses technology, I see no reason to buy anything from them.

  19. It's very effective by Otis_INF · · Score: 1

    as a marketing strategy. Think about it: it leaks weeks before the announcement. Every day articles pop up, people talk about it for hours on forums, social media, IRL... No-one talks about the XBox One S anymore. Then the announcement comes, and as it looks like the eurogamer article is based on a stolen item, it can very well be the Slim is available immediately: which is the right time because the hype built-up has been going on for weeks.

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    1. Re:It's very effective by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      Heh, I agree, my first thought was "Hey, I want to get a look at that!"
      Not that it matters, I stopped buying consoles ages ago, they keep getting stolen, except the Wii, they never steal that.

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  20. Boycott any litigious vendor by ruir · · Score: 1

    How about boycotting any vendor that does not show any sign of even trying to respect their customer base?

    1. Re: Boycott any litigious vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck. You would end up buying nothing and you know it's not possible. Even if it were, you would be only one against many and would never make any difference. Why make your own life miserable for the sake of a lost cause?

    2. Re: Boycott any litigious vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have no plan to buy anything more from Sony. It only takes one to get something started. Anyone else?

    3. Re: Boycott any litigious vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check all electronics you use before saying you're not buying from Sony or any associates. Check all of your belongings very well. You may be surprised and more than a little hurt, but the price of growing up is discovering how insignificant we are.

    4. Re: Boycott any litigious vendor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been avoiding Sony since at least the RootKit. I wasn't planning on buying an XBox either, but I might now just because of this.

    5. Re:Boycott any litigious vendor by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      How about boycotting any vendor that does not show any sign of even trying to respect their customer base?

      ^^^ This.

      Sony does business like every market is Japan where they are the darling nationally subsidized pet corporation. Why someone would opt for Sony over MSFT because their console had some negligible performance edge is beyond me.

  21. Re:Video games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are an adult and you play video games, you are doing life wrong.

    Video games are quite literally the gayest shit imaginable. Squirted out by homosexuals for homosexuals.

    You should have stopped playing video games when you were 17 if not earlier.

    Please grow up.

    I guess we can spot who always got the greasy shit pad and never won so much as a game of mario kart while growing up. I bet this guy's out drinking it up every night and trying to fuck all the chicks like a real man....right? Probably goes nuts for the superbowl too.

  22. Sony, nuff said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its Sony, so who gives a ....
    I haven't even put fingerprints on a sony music cd in the $3 bin at walmart since one of them bricked a 2 week old dvd writer when they were new and selling for prices in the hundred dollar range. Scrooooem, and the camel that rode in on them.

  23. Re:"VR Ready" is why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quote:"A member of the public bought this unit on the open market and Eurogamer sent a photographer over to capture it. They have every right to publish."

    the box of this real PS4slim allegedly had the statement "VR Ready" (presumably PSVR ready for Sony's headset) and perhaps the current PS4 doesn't have the "VR Ready" capability?

  24. The beautiful thing about this internet.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is always a copy of everything archived somewhere. Sometimes you just have to dig for it.

  25. Re: Video games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saints fan here. Don't lump us in with that dolt.

  26. Re: "VR Ready" is why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No...That's just advertising on the box. All PS4's support PSVR.

  27. Re:Bottes Timberland Pas Chers Homme by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    It gets modded down. I am not sure why the person thinks they are doing anything. Perhaps they don't realize that all -1 posts aren't indexed by Google and are hoping to raise the Google ranking of the URL?

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  28. Re:Video games by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    http://www.statista.com/statis...

    Only 27% of gamers are below 18. Perhaps you should rethink your life, many people enjoy video games and derive pleasure out of beating the latest video game.

    What I find more odd though is the >50 demographic. They didn't grow up with video games, but are a huge demographic.

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