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Apple, Facebook, IBM, and Microsoft Sign White House Pledge For Equal Pay (fortune.com)
In honor of Women's Equality Day, an anonymous reader shares with us a festive report from Fortune: More than two months after the White House first announced its Equal Pay Pledge for the private sector, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft and other major industry players have signed on. By taking the pledge, which was first introduced at the United State of Women Summit in June of this year, companies promise to help close the national gender pay gap, conduct annual, company-wide pay analyses, and review hiring and promotion practices. The new signees were announced in a White House statement on Friday -- which also happens to be Women's Equality Day, the anniversary of the ratification of the 19th amendment, which gave women the right to vote. Apple, which announced earlier this year that it has no pay gap, released a statement promising to dig even deeper into compensation. "We're now analyzing the salaries, bonuses, and annual stock grants of all our employees worldwide. If a gap exists, we'll address it," the company said in a statement. Twenty-nine companies signed the pledge on Friday, bringing the total number of signatories to 57. The pledge is part of a $50-million, White House-led initiative to expand opportunities for and improve the lives of women and girls. The consortium members issued a statement via Whitehouse.gov's press release: "The Employers for Pay Equity consortium is comprised of companies that understand the importance of diversity and inclusion, including ensuring that all individuals are compensated equitably for equal work and experience and have an equal opportunity to contribute and advance in the workplace. We are committed to collaborating to eliminate the national pay and leadership gaps for women and ethic minorities. Toward that end, we have come together to share best practices in compensation, hiring, promotion, and career development as well as develop strategies to support other companies' efforts in this regard. By doing so, we believe we can have a positive effect on our workforces that, in turn, makes our companies stronger and delivers positive economic impact." The consortium members include: Accenture, Airbnb, BCG, Care.com, CEB, Cisco, Deloitte, Dow, Expedia, EY, Glassdoor, GoDaddy, Jet.com, L'Oreal USA, Mercer, PepsiCo, Pinterest, Rebecca Minkoff, Salesforce, Spotify, Staples, Stella McCartney, and Visa.
Fine, as long as it works both ways. There are two women on my team who earn more than me with less qualifications and are on my team solely because they are women. Diversity! I should expect a raise right?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
What stops you from giving up your job so that the oppressed can work? Why does the progressive left always require other people to suffer to make up for suffering their policies have caused? I'll bet if your livelihood was threatened to support the narrative you would change your tune real quick. Strange how that works Comrade.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
I suppose it depends on how you measure "hard".
If you mean "hard" as in "put in my own personal maximum effort", you've got a point. A five year old girl can "work as hard" as a 35 year old man, if they're both trying their best. Hell, a five year old girl can work even *harder* than a 35 year old man, if he's just slacking.
If you mean "hard" as in "actually performed an objectively measurable feat of strength", then, yes, there are some inherent sexual differences, and you can clearly see this in the over-representation of men in objectively hard, dangerous, physical jobs. Your "hard working" five year old girl might be putting 100% maximum effort to lift that 10 pound bag, and the "slacking" 35 year old man might only be putting in 10% effort moving around a 40 pound bag, but the 35 year old man is doing harder work.
I only point this out because GP didn't use the word "effort", which you seem to have interpreted into their comment.
In my experience, there is a significant difference in productivity for men and women, across quite a number of professions. Claiming that there is no difference in the productivity is quite misandrinistic. It's also false.
I think if you read the actual agreement, I suspect it says "We promise to pay women just as much as we pay our male H1-Bs."
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Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
When will people wake up and stop eating up this stuff? The entire notion that there isn't equal pay for equal work is pure crap. If it wasn't crap, all these companies would have been hiring women all the time for every position because they could pay them less.
Lets do a little common sense here, I am a hiring manager and just interviewed two people with very similar qualifications, backgrounds, and work ethic, but one of them I can save ~20% on pay/benefits.... Wow, I wonder who I am hiring...
Wait, but you mean to say that the market doesn't work in this case, that all the financial market theory, best practices, etc., all cease to function once someone introduces the gender of an employee. Go back to college if you still think that (or more to the point go to college in the first place, just make sure you study a STEMS field, apparently we need more of them to drive costs down because we can't hire enough, and thus need more H1Bs, and yet wages are still mostly stagnant...).
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
Feminism nonsense isn't very popular here, but it brings in the comments.
Trolling its readership has been how Slashdot operates for years. Since it's all about the comments, I don't think it's as bad as you make it.
The worst workers, as identified by small businesses are: Smokers, Women with children, other women. I can attest to that. I was an ISP from 1998 to 2004, and
smokers took out 10-15 out of every hour to go outside to smoke. Women with children: "Oh, I can't make it to work, I have to go to the school teacher conference", or "My babysitter did not show up" etc. Women in general do not have a good work ethic because to THEM, family and kids come first, and twice as many women are smokers as compared to men.
You do realize that the often reported "pay-gap" doesn't control for qualifications, workload, or responsibility, right?
The pay-gap exists because men and women make different choices, and these choices have consequences even when everyone is paid identically based on qualifications, workload and responsibility.
Now, if you really want to talk about equal pay, hows about union shops where seniority drives pay, rather than qualifications, workload and responsibility. Two people, both working the same job, both producing the same results, and one gets paid more simply because they have been there longer. Now that's a sticky wicket.
The "Gender pay gap" is not because two equally skilled and experienced people are getting paid different amounts based purely on their genitals, the pay gap is the result of men and women being different, and because they're different they choose different types of work and working hours which affect their income (ie stockbroking vs nursing). Therefore the averages are different, ie on paper there it appears to be a gap when there isn't
The ironic part is that the feminists are too angry to figure this out, thus contributing further to the problem.
Note: If anyone cares, I've worked on payroll systems, with access to real numbers. Some men get paid more than other men for the same job, and some women get paid more than other women. And sometimes women get paid more then men, and other times men get paid more than women. And in even more cases they all get paid about the same. Most of the time it's down to the individual and their ability to negotiate (and most likely not cry like a bitch when they don't get the job/promotion/pay rise).
You sound tired. When you get some rest, have another look and see that the article you cited was an op-ed. Opinion. Commentary.
When they WSJ reports the news, there's a wage gap. When they give their feels, there isn't. Do you see a pattern here?
You are welcome on my lawn.
The myth that women don't have agency and aren't capable adults needs to die.
It is a choice to have children and the full consequences of doing so aren't a secret.
It is a choice to listen to people who try to tell you what you can and cannot do in your own future.
It is a choice to ask for a lower pay raise when you ask for a raise, as it is a choice to not seek a new job if your company doesn't appreciate you.
The last statement doesn't make any sense without more context.
What I find somewhat hilarious are the legions of resentful male developers who will complain for years that they are not hired or underpaid or overworked or not promoted or criticized or whatever, inconsistent with their true worth, because: (a) workplace politics, (b) human resources are idiots; (c) their boss doesn't like that they're smarter than them; (d) nepotism; (e) they don't have the right degree even though they're smarter than the PhDs they work with; (f) their coworkers undermine them; (g) etc..
But, the second a woman complains that she is unfairly paid less than them, these developers suddenly develop massive cases of amnesia and insist that their companies are true meritocracies where talent is universally recognized and rewarded, so obviously the accusations of discrimination against women are unwarranted.
It's only a meritocracy if the merit it recognizes is yours.
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