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What Jonathan Coulton Learned From The Technology Industry (geekwire.com)

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In a new article on GeekWire, Jonathan Coulton explains why he left a comfortable software development job in 2005 to launch a career as an online singer-songwriter. But he also describes the things he learned from the tech industry. "These guys were doing this thing they wanted to do, this thing they felt competent doing. They didn't chase after things, and they worked hard, but it was a business they created because they enjoyed it. They tried to minimize the things they didn't want to do. It wasn't about getting rich; it was about getting satisfied...

"I wanted to a set a good example to my children. I wanted to be the person I wanted to be, someone willing to take chances -- a person who didn't live with enormous regrets..." Within the first year, he had not replaced his software salary, but had enough success to cover his babysitter and to keep food on the table.
When he was younger -- in the pre-internet days -- "It was very unclear how to become a musician," Coulton explains. But somehow rolling his own career path eventually led to a life which includes everything from guest appearances on radio shows to an annual cruise with his fans (this year featuring Aimee Mann, Wil Wheaton, and Redshirts author John Scalzi).

88 comments

  1. I'm making a note here by thecombatwombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    huge success.

    1. Re:I'm making a note here by sittingnut · · Score: -1, Troll

      all the mediocre 'artists' with no accomplishments other than 'working' at it , are to get their stories here.
      yay! how far /. has come!

    2. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think we have a woosh situation here.

    3. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Since you say 'woosh' to yourself.

    4. Re:I'm making a note here by Salgak1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Mediocre" Artists who have written the theme song (and geek anthem) of two of the biggest puzzle games of all time ? Who is a regular at geek events ? And who is pretty much the model for Indie Music Publishing ?

      Seriously, if you don't recognize Jonathan Coulton, you need to turn in your geek card. . .

    5. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      if you don't recognize Jonathan Coulton, you need to turn in your geek card

      Dear Snowflake - Sorry to break this to you, but your little corner of the internet doesn't interest most people.

    6. Re: I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait a minute - I thought Slashdot was news for nerds, not garbage for geeks?

    7. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's kind of why he said turn in you 'geek card' and not your 'mainstream card'. Most people don't interest geeks.

    8. Re:I'm making a note here by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Life is like D&D.
      If you work hard add + 3
      If you have passion add + 2
      If you have advanced education + 1
      If you have gotton education in that area + 1
      Are you willing to make additional sacrifices to your life (you will get a chance to reroll after each sacrifice)

      Now roll the dice. 10 or higher you succeed. 18 or higher you are successful, natural 20 Critical success you roll a natural 1 you automatically fail badly.

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    9. Re:I'm making a note here by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      And most people don't interest me, so we're equal, Herbert. . .

    10. Re:I'm making a note here by west · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I like that analogy a lot. There's a careful balance between inculcating into my children that hard work, study, etc. is necessary, but also letting them know that it's not a guarantee. You also need some luck, but less of it, the harder you work. Hopefully it means that they won't feel betrayed in areas where they "do all the right things" but don't get the appropriate reward.

      Or as I've told them:

      Most of my success has depended on luck, but it's amazing how the harder I worked at something, the luckier I was.

    11. Re: I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Geeks don't know of every geek niche.

      For the record, I've played and beaten both Portal games twice, and still don't know who this guy is. I don't care to read the credits at the end.

    12. Re: I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The credits are one of the best highlights of the games (well, Portal 1 specifically).

      Shit the credit sequence in Portal 1 is pretty damn famous, famous enough to have several YouTube recordings of it. How you missed this I don't understand. I suspect you just don't care enough about the games you play. Treat them as disposable, not the art they often are, eh? Fuckwit.

    13. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your little corner of the internet doesn't interest most people.

      Then get the fuck off his lawn.

    14. Re:I'm making a note here by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: -1

      Eh, being a "geek" means liking computers a bit more than you like people. I liked it back when you didn't have to know the "geek anthem" or the "geek events" or what Wil Wheaton's beard style is currently. I knew it was all over when girls started to wear fake nerd glasses as fashion. There weren't even geek cards, you just had to be a person who liked learning.

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    15. Re: I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "not the art they often are"

      If you have to tell me that something is art, then it most likely is not.

    16. Re: I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are too busy staring at glowing rectangles and gorging yourself with junk food to recognise ANYTHING as art.

    17. Re:I'm making a note here by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

      We can't all ID all of the one-hit-wonders.

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    18. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the negative modifiers...
      If you are poor/from a poor background subtract 1
      If you are a disadvantaged minority -1
      If you are a woman -1
      If you get sick -3

    19. Re:I'm making a note here by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the negative modifiers... If you are poor/from a poor background subtract 1 If you are a disadvantaged minority -1 If you are a woman -1 If you get sick -3

      "Disadvantaged minority" isn't what most think. In fields with very few of X, where X is a government sponsored class, you definitely get a +5. Although we hear about white privilege the reality is that the ever hated white male gets exactly zero help while the rest get some form of advantage. The most extreme case I heard of first hand was a black speech therapist that a friend worked with. Not many of those I can assure you. She was able to openly sit and do nothing at work with zero consequence and only had half the case load of everyone else. The most extreme example of her incompetence was when she was caught at her lie of speaking spanish. She was adding an 'o' to the end of words as if that made them Spanish. No she wasn't fired nor even demoted and she does still work for that district. You can get away with a lot if you're a protected class.

    20. Re: I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have to tell me that something is art, then it most likely is not.

      Objectively wrong.

    21. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A very cute & barbed comment, but fifteen years late- so no score for you.

      If in this day and age of information overload, someone remains completely unaware of 'programs' or benefits to help them.... they are choosing to remain blind & complain. This rage against the system is only that, emotional rage. And while I'll admit it can feel good to fight when you feel painted into a corner the truth is people paint themselves there. There are PLENTY of vehicles out of victimhood.

      Now if the person's social circle will be supportive of them leaving it, well that is another situation entirely.

    22. Re:I'm making a note here by sootman · · Score: 1

      > it's amazing how the harder I worked at something, the luckier I was.

      My favorite saying: "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." (Seneca the Younger) The more you think about it, the more you realize how true it is. Short of finding cash or winning the lottery, almost all "luck" is when something good comes your way and you're in a position to take advantage of it.

      Or, if you're a fan of Under Siege 2: Dark Territory (1995) (or Louis Pasteur), "Chance favors the prepared mind."

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    23. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you just want to enjoy some good music of his, get his live CD, "Best. Concert. Ever.". It's actually fantastic and has some great audience participation. Most of the songs are quite kid friendly, except for 'First of May', which starts off sounding like a kids song and veers off quite hilariously.

      My kids love the rest of that CD and we listen to it all the time in the car.

    24. Re:I'm making a note here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are born into an extremely rich family, put away the dice, you already won.

    25. Re:I'm making a note here by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I would say give it A plus 10 modifier.

      You can still ctritically fail. Rich family will not give you any money. Spend your childhood/young adult on a hedonistic drug bender and get disowned by the family.

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  2. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol guest appearances on radio shows. Whaat the fuck is this shit? Who the hell is this guy? What a load of shit. Fucking ad.

    1. Re: Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Be nice, Meanie.

    2. Re:Who cares? by pezpunk · · Score: 1

      is there any article that Slashdot commenters can't turn into a shitshow of ignorance? no? ok. what a pathetic hole this place has become.

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    3. Re: Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Cut it out with your SJW code of conduct.

    4. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no u

  3. Hmm by Hognoxious · · Score: -1, Troll

    Did he learn that he should probably have stayed in software developing?

    He's like that Australian guy with the eye-shadow, apart from being not funny and not as good a musician.

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    1. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The songs he wrote and performed for Portal 1 and 2 were excellent. I know you are aiming for humor, but he's a genuinely talented musician and songwriter.

    2. Re:Hmm by Hognoxious · · Score: -1, Troll

      I'd never heard of the fucker, and the first few things google dredged up didn't really motivate me to look for more.

      What's Portal?

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's Portal?

      GTFO.

    4. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      He still probably has more money than you and could retire comfortably (even if not a life of luxury). How does that compare to you, and your soon to be training your dothead replacement, cubicle dweller life?

    5. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not put some skin in the game, and tell us which games and musicians you genuinely like, Mr Hognoxious?

      Or are you the average troll who gives out plenty of abuse, but cries like a baby when somebody does it to you?

    6. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's Portal?

      Portal

    7. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      More importantly, he doesn't hate his job. Whereas I stuck with my IT career and am completely miserable, but have a very safe income.

      Problem with stories like Coulton's is that for every one like him who found some measure of success, there are dozens of failures living on a couch in a dank basement just a hairs breadth from homelessness and starvation. The "follow your dreams" crowd suffers significantly from survivor bias.

    8. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's Portal?

      GTFO.

      Newsflash: not all geeks like the same things. To those who don't have much taste for puzzle games Portal is just plain overrated.

    9. Re:Hmm by TheSunborn · · Score: 3, Informative

      In case you are serious:
      Look up the following coulton songs on youtube/spotify/whatever

      re: your brain
      code monkey
      skullcrusher mountain
      Still alive
      (And for something sweet and cute: drinking with you, his most underrated song ever).

    10. Re:Hmm by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Various combat flight sims. Have a soft spot for TA:Kingdoms though it's a bugger to get it working on anything newer than XP.

      New Model Army, Pink Floyd, Ayreon.

      Don't know how relevant it is to the fact in hand, though. Are you going to tell me they're mainstream or something?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    11. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand not liking Portal. I understand Portal not instantly coming to mind. I certainly understand not knowing the name of the person who wrote the songs. I do not understand not knowing what Portal is. That's like asking "who is Madonna?" on a pop music board.

    12. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, kudos for giving me something to take aim at. My compulsion to rant has subsided, so I will bid you a pleasant day.

    13. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fear based on his grammar he may be the dothead replacement.

    14. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ... Ayreon

      Never heard of the fucker. Must be irrelevant to everyone, everywhere.

    15. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True that. I left my comfortable developer job in 2002 for reasons similar to Coulton's. In the process I almost lost my house and it took many years to get back to a position of financial stability.

      Now I work a day job where I show up, do my thing and get paid. I'm a lot more creative when I'm not worried about how the bills will get paid. YMMV

  4. So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    have a single achievement to his name besides being the worst pre-Neelix character in the history of Star Trek?

    *checks his wiki page*

    Wow, how can someone do so much yet accomplish so little?

    1. Re:So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's H'wil H'wheaton

      And what the fuck was wrong with Nelix? Or H'wes?

      Now, if you want hate, the wife of the irish transporter/once-chief engineer guy, she deserves it. She had bitch down pat! Hot, sure. Bitch, absolutely!

    2. Re:So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm firmly of the belief that Wil Wheaton is Wesley Crusher ("Wil" isn't even a real name, ffs!), and not the other way round.

    3. Re:So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of the persons listed in the last sentence only Scalzi is someone I think is famous enough to NOT require an introduction.

    4. Re: So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wil Wheaton has had multiple guests appearances on one of the world's most popular sitcoms. So that's what's he's famous for.

    5. Re: So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Trek isn't a sitcom, you oaf!

    6. Re:So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what the fuck was wrong with Nelix?

      "Oh noes, we're in the middle of a hopeless battle with the Borg and we'll all most likely be dead in a half hour. Let's have a karaoke party in the mess hall to boost morale! And then if there's time left and/or we're still over budget we can throw in some angsty shit with Kes, the *second* worst character on this tokenist catastrofuck of a waste of a good series concept."

      At least that's how I remember Neelix/Voyager.

    7. Re: So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      remember a little movie called stand by me

    8. Re:So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He used to be the most famous person who posted on Slashdot ..... says something about the rest of us, unfortunately.

    9. Re: So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ensign Wesley Crusher***

      Beverley looked dick deprived. Poor girl, surrounded by men. I always thought her and Jean would bump buggies when the second shit crew took over.

    10. Re: So does Wil Wheaton... by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      No, but the Big Bang Theory is.

    11. Re: So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ensign Wesley Crusher***

      Beverley looked dick deprived. Poor girl, surrounded by men. I always thought her and Jean would bump buggies when the second shit crew took over.

      1) Who says they didn't.
      2) It explains why Picard allowed that kid on the bridge.

    12. Re: So does Wil Wheaton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lookit her shake dat booty! I'd hit it with phasers on full...

      Tired of Crazy Train

  5. One thing I've learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anything you really put your heart into, you're going to be at least good enough to get by. It doesn't take much to stand out from a crowd of people who only do their job. This may sound trivial, but it honestly took me a long time to understand this. I'm not a social person, so getting attention for anything I do always weirds me out, to the point where I interpret it as sarcasm. But there's definitely a pattern: Do something you really care about and people do take note, and that's all it takes.

    1. Re:One thing I've learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Interesting idea. I'd say this would be true when you are engaging with people face-to-face. On the internet, you can pour your heart and soul into something, and receive little or no reward or recognition. The last internet-based company I worked for bombed spectacularly, and I knew that no matter how much I put into my work, it couldn't help save the business.

      My life would probably be significantly more enjoyable if I spent less time on the internet. It's a lazy habit that's hard for me to break.

    2. Re:One thing I've learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Met one of those in school.
      Only wanted to get that engineering degree to get a well paid 8-5 job.
      I wouldn't hire him as long as there are other options. By graduation time everyone who had programming as a hobby and tinkered a bit at home would qualify for the "just out of school and 5 years of experience" while he would be just someone who knew some theory but completely clueless in what actually works.
      Ten years in business and all his knowledge would be obsolete. You don't get to try the things that doesn't work when you have a deadline to pass and a project that is underfunded to begin with.
      Sure, you can argue that the company should pay for keeping you up to date, but if they do, the people who tinker at home still gets ahead.

      Someone who doesn't love his job can never compete with someone who does.

    3. Re:One thing I've learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Anything you really put your heart into, you're going to be at least good enough to get by"

      Many people in the music business have ended up having to go back to their day jobs.

      Whilst to be successful putting your heart into it is advantageous doing something people want to hear and knowing how to run business (or knowing to know people to do it are pretty important too.

    4. Re:One thing I've learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, if you are self-employed and need a steady flow of money immediately to survive, then putting your heart into something won't always pay the bills.

      If you are working for someone else, however, it will give you a huge career advantage over your co-workers.

    5. Re: One thing I've learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ha, Nelix made food that nobody likes! Oh the hilarity. Whoops! Someone stole his lungs!

    6. Re:One thing I've learned by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      Anything you really put your heart into, you're going to be at least good enough to get by.

      A lot of those useless degrees we joke about (art history anyone) depend on people believing this lie, unless by "get by" you mean minimum wage.

    7. Re:One thing I've learned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps I need to clarify two things: Firstly, yes, "getting by" means you make enough that you aren't forced to stop doing what you care about and do something else instead. It does not mean leading a comfortable life, getting wealthy or filthy fucking rich. Being able to do what you want to do with all your heart is worth it to some, and I'd say to all who really put their heart into what they're doing. Secondly, "putting your heart into it" is not just doing what you feel like doing. It's actually quite a steep requirement. When advisers ask young people what they'd do if they had a million dollars, they're trying to find that one thing which the kids would do without getting paid to do it. What the advisers probably should be asking is what the kids would pay to be allowed to do. And just because it's what you want to do doesn't mean you don't have to take shit from anyone, or that you're exempt from trying and finding ways to make ends meet. But if your heart is in it, you'll go to these lengths, and it will work.

  6. Check your ads. please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just got diverted off Slashdot to some malvertizing page.

  7. Who'd he piss off? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    an annual cruise with his fans (this year featuring ... Wil Wheaton,...

    Ooof.

    1. Re: Who'd he piss off? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great. I get to cruise with goony beard Wheaton who will explain why I'm a misogynist.

  8. Who is Jonathan Coulton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, are we all supposed to know about him? A short summary about who he is, and why his opinion is relevant for us couldn't have hurt.

    1. Re:Who is Jonathan Coulton? by netsavior · · Score: 1

      The geek song performer who wrote the Portal songs, and is generally an indie music darling in geek scene,.

      He generally hangs out with some pretty famous geeky icons... did the name dropping in the summary not get your attention? People attending his cruise this year: "Aimee Mann, Wil Wheaton, and Redshirts author John Scalzi"

    2. Re:Who is Jonathan Coulton? by Dzimas · · Score: 1

      Seriously, are we all supposed to know about him? A short summary about who he is, and why his opinion is relevant for us couldn't have hurt.

      The summary pretty well sums things up: "In a new article on GeekWire, Jonathan Coulton explains why he left a comfortable software development job in 2005 to launch a career as an online singer-songwriter."

  9. Attention Hipsters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We don't care about your lives. We're too busy trying to make ends meet here in the real world.

  10. Outlier succeeds, news at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, he quit his job and found success in another field, good for him. However, most who leave lucrative positions do NOT improve their financial position by following their dreams.

    A better, more realilistic article would be someone leaving the software industry, failing, but finding happiness in the pursuit anyway.

    1. Re:Outlier succeeds, news at 11 by coldsalmon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is the problem with taking advice from successful people: it's tainted by self-selection bias. It's obvious that making a lot of money doing something you love is a good way to live, but it's also obvious that this is impossible for most people. However, nobody interviews the mediocre majority, we only interview the outliers who have successfully followed their dreams. I suppose it gives us hope that we could have been happy and successful if only we had followed our dreams, without having to actually test that hypothesis.

    2. Re:Outlier succeeds, news at 11 by sootman · · Score: 1

      > This is the problem with taking advice from successful people: it's tainted by self-selection bias.

      +1,000,000. I know plenty of people who have "followed their dreams" to varying extents and they aren't doing that well.

      Meanwhile, I've given up most of my dreams and I'm getting by OK. :-/ (Only half kidding.)

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  11. Conclusion is simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Conclusion is simple. All software developers should immediately quit their jobs and work as musicians. If you don't you're a moron.

    *Waits for everybody to quit*

    So boss, about that raise...

  12. Christ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    And here I had hoped to get through life without hearing that hack Scalzi's name ever again.

  13. I had no idea who Jonathon was... by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 0

    .... and after looking him up on YouTube, I can say, if he can make a living producing music like that, then more power to him.

    Who pays to hear that crap ?

    1. Re:I had no idea who Jonathon was... by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      The same can be said for just about any music genre. It's not your mainstream pop, nor some jazz great. It sure as hell isn't classical. It's one of the comedy/social commentary genres where the interest is more in the lyrics than in the vocal prowess of the lead singer (or the ability of an engineer to autotune the lead singer into the perfection we've grown accustomed to). Go back and look at the successful social commentary singers of the 1960s to see a somewhat similar type of music. Tom Lehrer was one, Flanders and Swann another.

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    2. Re:I had no idea who Jonathon was... by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      Prefer Arlo Guthrie. Social commentary with incidental comedy a la Alice's Restaurant.

    3. Re:I had no idea who Jonathon was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add Mark Russell, Shel Silverstein, and my own modern local favorites, the Prince Myshkins

  14. Dating myself here. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    . . . .but I remember the test of the Geekiest of the Geeks: did you attend an "@Party" at a convention in the early-mid 1990s.

    @ Parties were events where everyone had an email address. LONG before the rise of USENET, the Green Card Spam, and the AOLization of the Net. . .

  15. Re:Dating myself here. . . by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

    You're not just dating yourself but also revealing your fading memory.

    Early-mid 1990s is not LONG before the rise of USENET. It's after the rise of USENET. It's the beginning of the eternal September, the peak and start of the downfall of USENET.

  16. Wrong on almost all of that by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    If you are from a poor background add 2, because you have fewer distractions, because to get cool devices or games or whatever, you have to earn money to get them, they are not handed to you...

    I know, because I grew up in a family with very little money.

    If you are a minority or woman, add three because there are SO MANY resources around now to help you specifically, and you are a guaranteed hire if you know anything at all. I have seen this in action with multiple friends and family, across many different companies I have worked with...

    Can't say you're wrong about being sick though. Stay healthy everyone, health is really the fundamental we all forget about.

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  17. Great to hear by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    As a (very) amateur musician with an IT day job, it's good to hear somebody similar made it a success. (I'm a studio guy, not a stage performer.)

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