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Microsoft Helps Develop Smart, IoT-Enabled Refrigerators (microsoft.com)

An anonymous Slashdot reader writes: Promising "intelligent food management" to help with shopping and meal planning, Microsoft is collaborating with household appliance manufacturer Liebherr to develop a refrigerator where stored groceries "can be monitored using internal cameras." The refrigerators will use Microsoft's object recognition technology to create a list of your groceries -- with photos -- accessible via an an Android or iOS app (or a Windows device).

"Microsoft is providing computer vision capability as part of this collaboration," says their web page, citing the deep-learning technology underlying the Microsoft Cognitive Services Computer Vision API, released in Microsoft's open source Computational Network Toolkit. "Using the deep learning algorithms contained within CNTK, Microsoft data scientists worked with Liebherr to build a new image processing system to detect specific food products present inside a Liebherr refrigerator..."

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  1. Pharmaceuticals by tal_mud · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I installed this on my fridge I would use the app when I went to the pharmacy. That way I could check up on which antibiotics where already growing in my fridge.

  2. Fucking Useless Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. designed to get people more used to having cameras and other sensory equipment all around them.

    1. Re: Fucking Useless Shit by Calydor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh, the sensor broke?

      The cooling element gets disabled and the refrigerator needs to be repaired.

      Same way you can't scan a black and white paper if your all-in-one printer and scanner is out of cyan ink.

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    2. Re: Fucking Useless Shit by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because eventually there won't be any regular refrigerators. Have you searched lately for a television that's not a smart tv?

    3. Re: Fucking Useless Shit by Alain+Williams · · Score: 2

      But I have directly seen printers that locked you out of everything until you replace the ink cartridges.

      If the colour cartridges are empty then how can they print the yellow dots that lets the government know which printer was used ?

    4. Re: Fucking Useless Shit by Calydor · · Score: 2

      Please try to Google for the sentence "Can't scan with no ink" and look at all the results. Then come back here and say that again with such certainty.

      The reason I specifically said 'cyan' ink was because that should never, never be needed for anything that has to do with black and white, not printing and certainly not SCANNING.

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    5. Re: Fucking Useless Shit by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

      You might have noticed that TVs are actually cheaper than comparable computer monitors. One has to wonder why...

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  3. Smart refrigerators by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A solution in search of a problem.

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    1. Re:Smart refrigerators by rrohbeck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is lack of business for MS, the solution is clearly a fridge that you have to pay SW licenses for.

    2. Re:Smart refrigerators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually there is one feature that looks handy: the camera. I've often been at the supermarket and thought "hang on, do I need milk/eggs/whatever?" The rest though? Meh. And I'm not cool with paying more that $50 or so extra for the camera either.

    3. Re:Smart refrigerators by brad3378 · · Score: 2

      It would also work much better if RFID tags were embedded in food packaging.

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    4. Re:Smart refrigerators by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      Indeed. Most IoT stuff, like his fridge, are really stupid. Like the IoT kitchen stove you can turn on with your phone... WTF??? You DON'T want the stove on when you're not home!

      Adjust the A/C with a phone? What, you're too damned lazy to walk across the room? Stupid! If I can turn off the heat with my phone, so can the FSB.

      I may have to buy a TV even though the one I have works perfectly fine, because it may not be long before you can no longer buy a dumb TV.

      It's bad enough that my computers and phone are hackable, I don't want anything else I own on the internet at all.

      People are stupid, though, "Ooh! Shiny!"

  4. And when the information gets sold by Calydor · · Score: 2

    Health insurance goes up because you're not eating healthy enough, police have free access to all these cameras to make sure no one's storing drugs in their fridge etc.

    Because writing 'Milk' on a list when you take the last carton of milk is such a daunting task!

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    1. Re:And when the information gets sold by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Quite what?

      P.S. If you put milk in coffee, you're a fucking savage.

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  5. Good by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 4, Funny

    I really need one of these

  6. I know what it will happen... by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Your fridge cannot recognize the ice cream you installed. (R)eboot fridge or (M)elt the ice cream ?"

    "Your fridge is 99% full. You can make more space with the Fridge Cleanup Tool. Proceeed ? (Y/N)"

    and at the very end:

    "I am sorry Dave, you should not eat this."
    "Open the fridge door, HAL!"

  7. Re:"Object Recognition Technology" by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    This would be much easier to do if all the items purchased in a supermarket had some kind of machine-readable label that linked to a database holding the product information and price...

    You mean like a bar code that they could scan at the checkout?

  8. You mean .. like Samsung already has?? by johnlcallaway · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok .. they don't have image detection. But they do already have a fridge that has a camera to see the inside and a neat Android interface. My wife and I played with one at a local store recently and it was kinda neat. It had a nice whiteboard function to leave notes, supported streaming video and supposedly interfaced with the SmartTVs, although I'm not sure of the functionality. Since it appears to use Android, it was pretty intuitive to us. I don't think it would be to people who haven't used Android phones though.

    I don't know how useful image detection will be without several cameras in the back and side of each shelf. But it was interesting to be able to see very clearly what was inside without opening the door. I wonder if the energy cost of the TV screen and computer hardware will outweigh the savings of not opening the door as often or as long.

    It wasn't worth to me the extra $2K more a comparable fridge costs. It might be to people with more disposable income than I have.

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  9. Re:The idiocy of the reporting by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    The same problems apply to parking spaces. People don't want to book, they just want to park.

    This is the problem with most Internet of things ideas. They require booking and planning ahead. Imagine when we're all driving Google Cars. we aren't going to just hop in and it will know where we want to go. You'll program every day's trips on your calendar app, and any changes will need to be manually done. This might be great for obsessive compulsive's who have to have a rigidly set schedule, but I might have any of 5 different work destinations, and sometimes don't know until halfway to work. So I'll be spared the inconvenience of making a quick decision with reprogramming on the fly.

    Back to the refrigerator, I see the same problem. Instead of the terrible inconvenience of a notepad and pencil, we'll be able to program the thing, then I'll be damned if we won't see advertising when the refrigerator decides we're low on something. Then it'll be just fscking awesome when in a meeting with the director, and my phone alerts me to the milk situation being both low and 1 day away from the expiration date, but before that wants me to watch a commercial for Udderly Awesome Milk, in White, Chocolate or NEW! Hazlenut flavored!!!

    There are good uses of technology, Internet connected refrigerators are not.

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  10. Re:spolier alert below by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Funny

    So would a system freeze be seen as a positive feature ?