YouTube Gets Its Own Social Network With Launch of YouTube Community (techcrunch.com)
The earlier reports were right when they said YouTube was working on launching its own social networking service for content creators. Instead of the "YouTube Backstage" branding, YouTube has decided to call their social networking service "YouTube Community," which allows content creators to use text, GIFs, and images to better engage viewers. Given the controversy surrounding YouTube in regard to demonetizing videos that are not deemed "friendly to advertisers," many YouTube creators have been or are thinking about leaving the site and joining competing services. These new tools are designed to help keep creators from departing to competing platforms. TechCrunch reports: YouTube has been testing the new service over the past several months with a handful of creators in order to gain feedback. It's launching the service into public beta with this group of early testers, and will make it available to a wider group of creators in the "month's ahead," it says. Access to this expanded feature set is made available to the creators and their viewers by way of a new "Community" tab on their channels. From here, creators can share things like text posts, images, GIFs and other content, which the audience can thumbs up and down, like the videos themselves, as well as comment on. Viewers will see these posts in their "Subscriptions" feed in the YouTube mobile application, and can also choose to receive push notifications on these posts from their favorite creators, YouTube says." Only time will tell whether or not this new move will be better received than YouTube's Google+ integration...
NOT.
Google will try again the same thing with a different name.
I browse YouTube to watch videos, I don't need pictures and tweets cluttering up the feed.
Can they fix the current comment section on desktop, you cannot read the comments and watch the video like you can on mobile.
Have you ever seen the "community" over at YouTube?
https://youtu.be/n8M6m5UiDaI
Enjoy the comments over there, but don't blame me if you end up drinking rat poison.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Well, we'll demonetize all your videos and you'll not be able to pay your bills anymore, but hey, here's an another pathetic Facebook wannabe/comments on steroids where you and other youtubers can mourn your imminent bankruptcy.
I recall dining out several years ago at a restaurant in which a large rat fell out of the ceiling. I conjectured that the kitchen must be full for them to have started wandering into the dining area.
Years later, the YouTube comments section is full of the worst breed of trolls that will now begin to wander over to the YouTube Community page. That's the real reason for its creation--keeping YouTube from exploding in a mess of non-sequitur vitriol and a black mire of abysmal hate speech. Think of it like a pressure valve that releases assholes instead of air.
"many YouTube creators have been or are thinking about leaving the site and joining competing services" ... ...
whos a competitor to YouTube? vimeo has limite video plays
http://www.dailydot.com/upstre... ??
It's not a typo if you understood the meaning!
YouTube Gets Its Own Social Network With Launch of YouTube Community
Is that what these goddamn alerts on my cell phone are? Jeeezus.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Dear Screwtape,
Today I expanded YouTube comments section to social network. Tomorrow I will make it mandatory to use to access any other Google service. This is all as planned, and I will finally succeed into turning Internet into private hell that is Youtube comments section.
Sincerely yours,
Wormwood
Sorry, growing up in the 80s sort of drilled that song into my subconscious...
ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
Oh, so it's not federated. Well then, up yours, Youtube.
The Internet needs another walled garden like it needs a hole in the head. Please do enjoy the inmates in your intellectual prison.
Same goes for any comments section really, but youtube has always gone to great pains to make its comments section as unusable as possible. If a video has 5000 comments, the 4900 of them that google *didn't* pick to be at the top of the pile may as well not even exist for the sheer amount of clicking it would take to ever find them.
The purpose of most comments sections on is not to promote intelligent discussion, but simply to create a (futile, pointless) way for people to emotionally "engage" with the content, which increases their loyalty to the site and the odds they'll come back. Only the thinnest pretense that their angrily-typed essay will ever be read by anyone is sufficient.
Fire the marketing guys..I like 'Youtube Backstage' WAY better. Way more 'catchy' and 'enticing'...with a flare etc. 'Youtube Community' is so.....utilitarian...sure it says what it is but really? Some marketing guy was paid good money to create that name?
Send me the money I'm sure I can do this job without much thinking.
We have just announced on the Official Google Blog that we will soon retire YOUTUBE COMMUNITY. We know YOUTUBE COMMUNITY has a devoted following who will be very sad to see it go. We're sad too.
There are two simple reasons for this: usage of YOUTUBE COMMUNITY has declined, and as a company we're pouring all of our energy into fewer products. We think that kind of focus will make for a better user experience.
Thank you again for using YOUTUBE COMMUNITY as your COMMUNITY platform.
'The purpose of most comments sections on is not to promote intelligent discussion, but simply to create a (futile, pointless) way for people to emotionally "engage" with the content, which increases their loyalty to the site and the odds they'll come back. Only the thinnest pretense that their angrily-typed essay will ever be read by anyone is sufficient'
For a moment there I thought you were talking about Slashdot.
I dunno. I used to have some good conversation on YouTube, pre Google+ integration. Nowadays the comment system is so unusable that only fanbois and flame lords bother posting any more than a single sentence.
Google + ?
-Dave
bye bye now
And nothing of value was gained.
Keep your eyes to the sky.
A central place for creators that are pissed off, confused, and losing money to vent their frustrations? OHHHH NO! This is going to be Reddit on steroids. They better coat the servers in fireproof gel for this one because the flame wars are going to be starting.
No. Not just "no", but "FUCK NO".
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
"Given the controversy surrounding YouTube in regard to demonetizing videos that are not deemed "friendly to advertisers," many YouTube creators have been or are thinking about leaving the site and joining competing services. These new tools are designed to help keep creators from departing to competing platforms"
Huh? No they are not. This has been in development for a long time, way before the demonetization "scandal" happened.
And somehow, I don't think YouTube is too worried about creators departing to competing platforms. They did way worse before, and no one left.
What happens again and again is the drama, bunch of people complaining about it, threatening to leave, usually not fully understanding what they are talking about, then they all realize that YouTube is the only service with such a huge audience, and then they just give up.
Which I know is bad in itself, but the top statement sounds a bit like guesswork. Did you just try to bungle together two separate things there?
YouTube Community is here because quite frankly, the current commenting system is outdated, a mess and cumbersome. Not because Google+, not because YouTube commenters are the worst, but because the system itself is horrible. You can't find anything in it, browsing through it can sometimes be impossible, the webapp is often not synced with the mobile app, you can't do much of anything other than scroll and reply to people, it's probably among the most primitive commenting systems out there. Commenters can't even see a history of their own comments. There's zero customization.
But this has been an issue and a constant complain for quite a while now, so I guess YouTube is finally doing something about it... no clue if it'll be worth anything though.
Listen, it's fashionable to hate on YouTube comments... but scanning through the comments is half the fun of a YouTube video.
Yes, lots of them are stupid. There are nuggets of comedy gold mined out that that stupid.
I remember someone posted the full sound track of The Jockey from Left 4 Dead 2. If you haven't played the game then The Jockey grabs someone's head and starts a mad laugh. The laugh gets more and more hysterical until he's basically screaming.
So, I watching this video which contains the full track that Valve recorded for the character from first grab, to full hysteria, to cool down.
Top comment on the video: "Sounds like me having sex".
As title.
peeps were hating on it before I left my comment.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Another stifled, censored social network. What more could humanity ask for?
What do you expect from those Loonix users?
I just modded you '+1 Funny', but damned if I wasn't oh-so-tempted to click on 'Insightful' instead. Well done!
While I agree that the majority of the YouTube comments are indeed "noise" (such as the redundant "I'm watching this in year ####") there is still a few that are add a useful / interesting "signal". I've seen people add meta-data such as:
* the Song Name, Band, and/or Albumb,
* Interesting links about the topic at hand
The biggest problem with YoutTube's comment section is that slow repetitive partial loading. Both /. and reddit allow you to link directly to a message, YouTube doesn't -- this makes finding a particular message extremely time consuming.
Another problem was that comments will sometimes fail to post when the generic "Error" without _any_ indication of _why_. Why are URLs sometimes allowed and other times dis-allowed??
If YouTube would actually think about fixing their crappy comment User Experience comments could actually be useful to the majority of people. Right now they are mostly useless with their brain dead UI.
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Youtube never liked G+. They didn't like the integration removing their independence and they only gave in and G-plussed themselves when Vic Gundotra put on his "I AM THE VOICE OF LARRY" [1] act and ordered them to do so. I am sure they didn't like G+ then either and were happy it failed.
This is Youtube taking control of their community services and features instead of letting the G+ guys do it, and providing better community features than Youtube had before it got G-plussed. Youtube always felt it had a separate brand image and separate community of users, and they do - that's why it's still called "Youtube" instead of "Google Video".
Of course the Youtube "community" is a sewer of rancid toxics that makes the Twitter trolls and the racist parts of Reddit look quite reasonable, so they're not improving the Internet in general by fostering it. Youtube: NEVER READ THE COMMENTS.
But they are taking more control of their own destiny and seeking more autonomy in how they interact with their users.
[1] Imagine a bad version of Alan Rickman as the Metatron in "Dogma".
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