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Microsoft Reproduces Google's Battery Life Test To Show Edge Beats Chrome (venturebeat.com)

Earlier this year, Microsoft said that its Edge browser was more power efficient than Google's Chrome, a claim that Google refuted with its own findings. But the debate isn't over. An anonymous reader writes: Microsoft is at it again -- touting Edge as the most battery-efficient browser on Windows 10. The company has rerun its battery tests from the previous quarter using the latest versions of the major browsers, open-sourced its lab test on GitHub, and published the full methodology. But this time, Microsoft says it also replicated one of Google's tests to show that Edge lasts longer than Chrome, Firefox, and Opera.

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  1. Re:Sure by neoritter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or instead of resorting to logical fallacies you could look at the published information to determine if they are right. You know, by reading the released methodology and looking at the published lab test code.

  2. Well, yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hum... so the browser with the most limited set of features requires less power... go figure..

  3. Re:Sure by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    A test specified, run and controlled by a party with a huge vested interested. And one that has been convicted for criminal behavior twice. Yep, that inspires confidence.

    While I share your concern when it comes to Microsoft, the test has been Open Sourced. Please point at the bad part. Explain also why you trust Google.

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  4. Edge by dontbemad · · Score: 5, Informative

    Say what you will about M$FT or IE or whatever, but Edge is surprisingly fast and efficient.

    I bought a tiny $80 Windows 10 tablet with around 2gb of ram and a minuscule atom processor, and Chrome will choke at just about everything (especially gmail). Edge opens quickly, browses quickly, and utilizes very little memory.

    Not shilling for Edge or Microsoft by any means, but for what its worth, they definitely improved their web browser pretty substantially.

    1. Re:Edge by SQLGuru · · Score: 2

      Edge now has extensions (https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/extensions/). It's just a matter of NoScript providing the extension. [Ad-Block is there, but it'll be less useful very soon.]

    2. Re:Edge by Curate · · Score: 2
      Ad-Block is there, but it'll be less useful very soon

      Argh!! I just installed it. Why will it be less useful soon?

  5. Pointless by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Battery life isn't the be all and end all browser test. For me - on mutliple systems - Edge just stalls and stops randomly at the most annoying times - even if I've only got 2 or 3 tabs open. Chrome pretty much never does this.

    What good is extra battery life if I spend 20-50% more time in the browser waiting on it to do something?

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  6. So Edge is the best browser on Windows 10 by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great. It's a bit like being the top dog in the dump.

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  7. The Microsoft Problem Is Never Performance by alternative_right · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft products generally perform well under the hood. The problem is the other stuff. The interface shows the signs of design by committee, and applications are configured in such a way as to manipulate us into using other Microsoft products and services. That is what we hate, because both of these interrupt the process of work, and replace it with the process of working-around-Microsoft.

    1. Re:The Microsoft Problem Is Never Performance by zapadnik · · Score: 2

      I don't know if "performing well under the hood" includes programming to the Microsoft APIs, but I find the Microsoft APIs to be hideous (after suffering connecting to them for 20 years). Even when they went to dotNet they couldn't resist stinking the interfaces up with pseudo-Hungarian notation on their interfaces. Yukk. I'm sure many Slashdotters who have never worked with cleaner designs will FEEL that Microsoft has the be-all and end-all of API design. I beg to differ, and I know I'm not alone.

      Personally, I find Microsoft's ecosystem vastly less reliable than alternatives. The one area they are still ahead is graphic drivers. But in the browser space Edge is still not a pleasant experience with stutters and trying to convince me to use Bing and other Microsoft junk I don't want.

  8. Re:Who cares? by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Battery life is at best a distant second in my books on browser performance. Edge just isn't very good. I've tried a couple of times to use it, but it's like some really awkward late alpha early beta project. It's also easily broken, which is why we basically abandoned in at my office.

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  9. Adblock by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unless your browser supports some kind of adblocking it is going to lose a battery life test.

    1. Re:Adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  10. Chrome has made a giant leap. Bravo! by lophophore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I say "bravo!" for the Chrome team. Their results are significantly better than the prior test.

    in the last test, Edge lasted 70% longer than Chrome. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    in this test, four months later, the laptop with Edge lasted only 11% longer than Chrome. If I were the Edge team, I'd be watching my back and not crowing so loudly.

    Note that they only tested on Windows 10, because Edge only runs on Windows 10.

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  11. Re:Sure by SilentTristero · · Score: 3, Informative

    Isn't the whole thing missing the point?

    I mean, really, when's the last time you were concerned about which browser to use because you only had 6 hours of battery left if you used Chrome to surf, instead of 7 if you used Edge?

    Um, no. In previous Chrome builds (<53) it would spin laptop fans endlessly even when nothing was going on and use at least 50% CPU, at close to max freq. Battery life was significantly worsened just by having Chrome open. So when was the last time I was concerned about battery life due to which browser? A couple of months ago it was a real problem. Now they're close enough that Chrome is usable, because it's so much better as a browser and only a little worse on the battery.

  12. Re:Sure by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2

    Explain also why you trust Google.

    Who says I do? All other things being equal, I never trust any company when it claims that its junk is much better than the competitor's. This is about a particularly despicable company, not about another not yet quite as particularly despicable.

  13. Re:Don't care, won't use it by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

    First, because Chrome has a track record of complying with standards. Microsoft IE does not

    Edge is a completely standards complaint browser, written from scratch. In fact, it technically is more compliant than Chrome. (The delta is in edge cases no one cares about.)

    Chrome has become the de facto standard at this point

    It depends on your audience. If you want an executive at a Fortune 500 company to read your site (from the office), it will work in IE and Firefox, then you test Edge, then Chrome if you have time (spoiler, you don't).

    Microsoft has shown a patter of screwing their partners and their customers, and I have no interest in providing them with any more influence or power than I'm forced to.

    While I agree with you, I feel the same about Google. Actually, I think Google has been worse. Microsoft will support the framework you built on forever. Google kills projects and leaves devs high and dry. Google spies on me. Microsoft just wanted my money (pre-Windows 10, I don't know who's winning on this dimension anymore.)

    In any case, the fact that I want neither one of those two to win means I want whoever is doing worse to pick up steam.

    Chrome has a community of developers making various extensions

    So does Edge. I think they're paying developers to port them over? Anyway, you can get some important ones (ad blockers, etc.) so that's good.

    Finally, I can log into Chrome with my gmail account, and my settings and extensions sync to whatever device I use.

    One man's killer feature is another's feature that kills interest. I like my data on my machine.

    Although the really reason I won't use Chrome is it seems to use tons of memory and crash all the time. And it's really hard to control JS on a page/source level.

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  14. Re:Does Edge do tab isolation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Microsoft has done the same since IE 8. FireFox is the only "major" browser that considered threaded browsing too difficult to implement.

  15. Re:Who cares? by darkain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually YES. It is called "Market Competition", ya'know, that thing we bitch about lacking in the ISP industry? With there being Webkit, Blink, Gecko, and Trident all competing for top dog right now, us, the users all win. Each of the engines are trying to be the fastest, most accurate and complete HTML5/CSS3 representation, and now the longest battery life for mobile devices. So while *YOU* may not use Edge/Trident, Microsoft is still forcing Google, Opera and others to up their game in specific benchmarks that do matter to quite a few users. So yes, in the end we all win, and should care about the competition between these products.

  16. Microsoft Edge’s industry-leading efficiency by khz6955 · · Score: 2

    Microsoft tweaks the OS to give the impression Edge uses the battery more efficiently and this gets translated into industry-leading efficiency? A better test would be to compare browsers on another Operating System.

    Microsoft Edge now gets even more out of your battery

  17. Re:Who cares? by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to HTML5 Test we see the following...
    Edge 14 460
    Chrome 52 492
    FireFox 48 461
    Safari 9.1 370

    I guess Edge is getting there. It is on Par with FireFox and beats safari... However chrome has a strong lead.

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  18. Re:Who cares? by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Our dev team recently spent an entire iteration enhancing the performance of our online products. They involve lots of resource loading, WebGL rendering, HTML5 canvas rendering, etc. Our benchmarks showed Edge was far and away the best performer of our supported browsers (Chrome, IE, Edge, Firefox, OSX Safari), particularly when it came to loading time. We develop using Chrome and only do compatibility testing on Edge, but all the times I've used it I was impressed.

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  19. Re:Who cares? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Informative

    >They involve lots of resource loading, WebGL rendering, HTML5 canvas rendering, etc

    I already hate your website and I haven't even used it yet.

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  20. Re:Who cares? by Daltorak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to HTML5 Test we see the following... Edge 14 460 Chrome 52 492 FireFox 48 461 Safari 9.1 370

    I guess Edge is getting there. It is on Par with FireFox and beats safari... However chrome has a strong lead.

    HTML 5 Test has made some questionable decisions about what specs should count towards the totals. Edge, for instance, is docked 4 points for not supporting Shadow DOM, but this spec is still in draft form and nowhere near completion. Same story with Web Animations.... still an Editor's Draft, but is worth 3 points. Same with MediaStream Recording..... 2 points. Same with window.requestIdleCallback..... 1 point. Same with Credential Management Level 1.... 3 points. Same with Speech Recognition..... 3 points. Same with WebGL 2 ..... 5 points.

    Do you really think it's wise to give credit to a web browser for implementing something that is in draft status and is likely to change? That's bad for web compatibility, not good. Right? Chrome loves implementing these features early, but web developers can't really take advantage of them because they're at risk of some future browser upgrade breaking their site.