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Xiaomi Can Silently Install Any App On Your Android Phone Using A Backdoor (thehackernews.com)

Xiaomi, the Chinese smartphone manufacturer many refer to as the "Apple of China," can silently install any app on your device, according to a Computer Science student and security enthusiast from the Netherlands. Thijs Broenink started investigating a mysterious pre-installed app, dubbed AnalyticsCore.apk, that constantly runs in the background and reappears even if you try and delete it. The Hacker News reports: After asking about the purpose of the AnalyticsCore app on the company's support forum and getting no response, Thijs Broenink reverse engineered the code and found that the app checks for a new update from the company's official server every 24 hours. While making these requests, the app sends device identification information with it, including the phone's IMEI, Model, MAC address, Nonce, Package name as well as signature. If there is an updated app available on the server with the filename "Analytics.apk," it will automatically get downloaded and installed in the background without user interaction. Broenink found that there is no validation at all to check which APK is getting installed to a user's phone, which means there is a way for hackers to exploit this loophole. This also means Xiaomi can remotely and silently install any application on your device just by renaming it to "Analytics.apk" and hosting it on the server. Ironically, the device connects and receives updates over HTTP connection, exposing the whole process to Man-in-the-Middle attacks."

97 comments

  1. Not actually an example of irony. by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ironically, the device...

    I think you mean predictably.

    1. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      I would have gone with "stomach churningly" but...

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    2. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by mspohr · · Score: 1

      That's not irony. That's stupidity.

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    3. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't worry. It's in a directory called /speedtest.

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    4. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Irony is like coppery, but harder.

    5. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Kvasio · · Score: 5, Interesting

      exactly! I'm concerned if regular LED bulbs (not the wifi-enabled ones) don't have hidden functionalities, such as sending sound or images over wireless network or becoming bricked on command from China.
      So any router, smartphone, security cam etc are even more suspicious.
      Sure, "Western" brands also produce in China, but at least - theoretically - they control their products. In case of chinese brand + chinese design + chinese manufacturing option of "bricked on command" may be quite viable war scenario.

    6. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds paranoid... BUT, is it paranoia if they really are out to get you?

      We dismiss such issues with hand waving commentary about economic interdependence, but we know that it is possible. How far in advance would a country prepare in order to win a war?

    7. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But they aren't out to get you. They want it to monitor Chinese citizens or defectors. Possibly they will be pleasantly surprised if some Japanese politician gets one.
      The Chinese government doesn't care about some little citizen in the west, just like the US government doesn't care if Chinese citizens live or die.
      If you are European or American you get a Chinese phone and the Chinese will hold on to you information, just to piss off the US government if nothing else.
      If you are Chinese you get an American phone for the same reason.

      You can't get a fully functional one without spyware but you can get one where the spyware is from someone that isn't interested in spying on you specifically.

    8. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      So many Chinese-made IoT ("Internet of Targets") devices do this it's not funny. It seems like very single webcam, Internet-enabled lightbulb, and magic dingus we check on phones home to half a dozen random servers all over China for who-knows-what purpose. It's not malicious, it's just sloppy programming: It's so much easier to manage and maintain the whatsit you've sold to customers all over the world when it's phoning home and checking in all the time. The fact that the capability can be hijacked by anyone who wants to isn't even considered. Both the coding and the mentality is like Microsoft circa 1992.

    9. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by sabbede · · Score: 1

      No no no, it connects ironically. Then it sends null strings, plays some old vinyl it doesn't actually like, and transfers the file via gopher.

    10. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, Citizen Chen. I'm sure non-Chinese users have nothing to worry about.

    11. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah! I got that joke!

    12. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is actually useful. The thing "phones home", and blindly downloads stuff. Now, many manufacturers don't let you install a new firmware easily. But this is the way in! Just impersonate their server with a very local MITM attack - and you can install anything interesting on your phone or other device.

    13. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      exactly! I'm concerned if regular LED bulbs (not the wifi-enabled ones) don't have hidden functionalities, such as sending sound or images over wireless network or becoming bricked on command from China.

      I'm concerned if you're not using encryption on your network. If you are, those devices aren't doing anything of the sort. If you're extra-concerned about it, open them up and see what kind of chips are in there. There is probably nothing in there that is complex enough to do what you describe. It's not that it's impossible, it's more about why bother? Most people are using encrypted networks (I'm doing it and I don't even have neighbors) so there's little to no point.

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    14. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by sentiblue · · Score: 1

      Actually I dont give a damn what the purpose is... it's straight up theft and the phucking Chinese have been doing it in a recognized pattern...

      Lenovo installs malware into its own computer in the same manner... they got blasted and now they removed it... XiaoPhuck installs a backdoor that can install anything else... same phucking stealing method... Other than stealing.. what did they "innovate"?

    15. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by martinfb · · Score: 1

      Stupidity for phone users. Stupidity for developers to think it would not be discovered.

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    16. Re:Not actually an example of irony. by Kvasio · · Score: 1

      > I'm concerned if you're not using encryption on your network. If you are, those devices aren't doing anything of the sort.

      I do use it, and I'm not telling about wifi.
      But ... if they made custom stack (not 802.x whatever), even not tcp/ip but completely obfuscated p2p protocol - it they sell billions bulbs, theoretically they could send "delayed command of death" and suddenly large chunk of Europe/USA comes to dark ages. (Or even a special wave shape in AC power supply may be such signal).

      Also think about controls in power grid and power plants in scenario similar to Stuxnet action in Iran. Think about controls of the dams. These would be isolated from internet; but may wait for the right signal eg. transmitted on FM/AM or from satellite.

  2. And google can't? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This "backdoor" they talk about is called "priv-app" system. Basically it can bypass the system's dialog that asks whether an app can be installed. Smartphones with play store should be affected just as well.

  3. change "can silently install" by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    to "already has installed"

  4. Shocker... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... who would expect something like that from a company in china... also Google can do the *exact* same thing...

    1. Re:Shocker... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... who would expect something like that from a company in china... also Google can do the *exact* same thing...

      It's not the same. Try reading the summary again.

    2. Re:Shocker... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It IS the same. Google can update Play Store, GMS etc, without the user noticing. If they can do that, they probable directly upload apks. And if not, they can upload a patched Play Store that can do it...

    3. Re:Shocker... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... who would expect something like that from a company in china... also Google can do the *exact* same thing...

      Apparently Apple can only do this with U2 albums.

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    4. Re:Shocker... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, at least one big difference is the encryption... if Google's updated app is served via an encrypted request, it's much more likely that only they can send the updated apk to the target's phone.

      With Xiaomi's implementation, anyone between the target and the server can send the apk of their choice.

      Who should be able to update software? The company your're already relying of for various services, or _anyone_?

    5. Re:Shocker... by ITRambo · · Score: 1

      I have notifications turned on, on my LG K8 Android 6 phone. Google has not installed any of the apps you mentioned, without providing me with a notification. There is an option to uninstalled the update, if it isn't desired. Google is far more upfront about what they do then you are letting on.

    6. Re:Shocker... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Not to forget that M$ can do exactly the same thing with compulsory windows 10 upgrades and do factually do it, including firmware hacks, hell they can do it via targeted upgrades for windows 7 on and up. Although with windows 7-8 you could skip the upgrades so it takes some time for them to load them up for the NASA, CIA or NATO (need to separate those hacks from those organisation because they keep secrets from each other, you could actually get hacked by all three individually and as a foreigner by your own because of all the interest) et al and some time to clean it off to minimise exposure of the hack (although technically say you are already being monitored for what ever reason those monitoring you would could watch that hack live and steal those tools, although they would be committing a criminal act for not reporting the other criminal act).

      Why is it when end users do the tiniest bit wrong it is prison but when corrupted government organisation and corporations do massive amounts, nobody does nothing to stand up for justice or the right of privacy (the free person right, keep in mind only slaves have no right to privacy).

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    7. Re:Shocker... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, for ALL PHONES, a carrier or handset manufacturer or software provider.. SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE USER has root on them.. ALL OF THEM... hell, in most cases, even the user doesn't have root...

      so technically, ALL PHONES could have apps or other unwanted software installed without their knowledge or permission.

      further, ALL PHONES have tracking shit installed on them. the only difference in this one particular case is that one particular, chinese, company got caught reinstalling the same shit.

    8. Re:Shocker... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Well, at least one big difference is the encryption... if Google's updated app is served via an encrypted request, it's much more likely that only they can send the updated apk to the target's phone.

      That's not the point. The point is that users are giving the keys to the digital equivalent of their house to random third parties, and 99% of them don't even realize they're doing it.

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    9. Re:Shocker... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not so much a problem with windows. You don't have to run windows on a PC. There are alternatives like linux readily available - if you don't like what MS does. And nothing prevents you from using such alternatives.

      With a phone, you usually have no alternative os. If you are lucky, then perhaps cyanogen provides an alternative. The manufacturers takes measures to prevent you from changing the sw - even if it is just "security through obscurity". Fortunately, they screw up with security holes like this, giving the hackers among us some control of our own devices.

      If you don't want the thing to "phone home", just get a firewall that prevents the connection.

    10. Re:Shocker... by Wulf2k · · Score: 1

      But it really is on the honour system.

      The last few generations of software have removed the user as the final decision maker.

      Imagine we're in a crappy movie where everybody in authority has gone made with power. The user can no longer prevent Microsoft from forcing malware on their machine through windows update. They can no longer prevent their phones from spying on them by Google.

      Sure, none of those companies will be stupid enough to take it to the extreme, but if they decide you get something, then you get something.

  5. Shcoker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What a shocker, another Chinese hardware manufacturer with crap security and built in backdoor and/or spyware!

    If you don't like these buy your computer hardware from some other country... oh wait, everything is made in China.

    1. Re:Shcoker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh wait, everything is made in China.

      Not everything.. I think we have a cottage industry around picking horrible political leaders and to my knowledge they are NOT made in china...

    2. Re: Shcoker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct.

      Controlled by China.

      There is a difference. Not much, but still.

    3. Re: Shcoker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump is controlled by Russia, not China.

  6. Funny by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    So I can run an free wifi network and man-in-the-middle anyone with a Xaiomi phone who connects to it and install anything I want on their phone.

    1. Re:Funny by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      yup.
      Only question is just how popular are they?

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    2. Re:Funny by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      Check out this article from Feb 2016 The Future Of Xiaomi: China’s Most-Valuable Startup Is Looking Well Beyond The Smartphone

      Xiaomi, which was founded just six years ago, sells its smartphones in just nine countries, but China is far and away its biggest market, accounting for the vast majority of the 70 million smartphones it sold in 2015.

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  7. Is anyone surprised? by macs4all · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's what you get from a wholly-Chinese company.

    And no, using Chinese Contract Manufacturing is NOT the same. Contract Manufacturers don't control the firmware, nor have the signing keys or software distribution abilities.

    1. Re:Is anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, have you heard anything about what a guy named...something Snowden or other has been releasing to the public for the past few years? You know, about how American tech companies are collaborating in one of the most massive surveillance dragnets in human history?

      Yeah but not Apple, right? I mean they have closed source firmware and software that we can't verify, that is put into hardware that is built in China and includes software from various other vendors like radio chipset companies but this is Apple. It's not Microsoft or Google, it's Apple and it comes down to one word: courage. If you're using Apple products and being spied on maybe you're just holding them wrong.

    2. Re: Is anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you build the hardware, you can own the system. At some point all that fancy encryption has to be decrypted for the end user. When this happens, if you control the hardware level, then you effectively have compromised the system. Why do you think the NSA intercepts so many firewalls and PCs while they are being shipped? So yes, if it is manufactured in China, and you are a big enough target, you can be sure its compromised.

    3. Re:Is anyone surprised? by Kvasio · · Score: 1

      how naive ...
      This is not about racism. Whether you accept it or not, China and Russia have now real motivation to go into some sort of conflict with USA and UE. Just read recent RAND Corporation's "War with China".
      Now, China remotely turning off everything they could in USA and UE: from PCs, routers to controls in power plants it reasonable and possible scenarion if war happends. And NSA turning these off in USA simply makes no sense.

      As written earlier: I'm not 100% sure that Chinese led bulbs don't have some hidden "features".

    4. Re:Is anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey dumb-ass, your Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Apple iPhone, Apple Mac etc. can do exactly the same, and it does, as part of transparent "security" updates. This does not make Xiamoi devices less secure, nor other devices more secure.

    5. Re:Is anyone surprised? by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Hey dumb-ass, your Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Apple iPhone, Apple Mac etc. can do exactly the same, and it does, as part of transparent "security" updates. This does not make Xiamoi devices less secure, nor other devices more secure.

      I agree that they COULD do stuff like that in league with nefarious forces (and in the case of Windows 10, it seems all but a known fact); but at least in the case of Apple, they have such an intense, longstanding, core, distaste for such activities, that I must insist on credible proof of same.

  8. China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course they can, and are probably mandated by their assigned CCP official.

  9. Totally non-shocking clickbait scaremongering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFA and TFS both conveniently neglect to mention that Xiaomi Can Silently Install Any App On Your Android Phone... if your Android phone is from Xaiomi.

    Which is something like 5% of worldwide share. Focused primarily in China.

  10. So, uhhh.. by bhcompy · · Score: 1

    does Android have a hosts file?

    1. Re:So, uhhh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, it does.
      Should have root then use file explorer that support text editting or other editing app to edit hosts file (/system/etc/hosts).
      Adaway ad blocker for android also works with the hosts file.
      I'm not certain if you need root for this but you can also push and pull the hosts file using adb.

    2. Re:So, uhhh.. by wikdwarlock · · Score: 1

      Great advice. Next question is, what are the actual addresses that should be added? I can't find that information.

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    3. Re:So, uhhh.. by Rexdude · · Score: 1

      I'm not certain if you need root for this but you can also push and pull the hosts file using adb.

      You do, the root and system partitions aren't accessible by default without a root shell.

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  11. Xaomi is easy to root and Analytics is the first a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Xaomi is easy to root and Analytics is the first app I delete

  12. News at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Chinese firm predictably acts without integrity or honor, and this is considered news?

    1. Re: News at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These are shifty Chinamen were talking about, not noble Japaners...

    2. Re: News at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Business dishonesty has no mother land.

  13. *My* Android Phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Xiaomi, the Chinese smartphone manufacturer many refer to as the "Apple of China," can silently install any app on your device

    No, they can't. They might be able to silently install any app on devices they manufactured, but my Android phone doesn't know who or what Xiaomi is. Samsung might be able to silently install something on my phone, but Xiaomi sure as hell can't.

    Clickbait trash title and the same phrasing repeated in the summary.

    1. Re:*My* Android Phone? by Kvasio · · Score: 2

      surely you control firmware. But do you control electronic components? Sure, that there are no "hidden few hundred lines of code" in electronics, that would overlay whatever there is in firmware or software?

    2. Re:*My* Android Phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think my point was lost. The article title says "Xiaomi Can Silently Install Any App On Your Android Phone Using A Backdoor." No they can't, because Xiaomi did not manufacture any part of my Android phone. The article title insinuates that any Android phone from any manufacturer is vulnerable to this problem, which isn't true at all. Only some phones manufactured by Xiaomi are vulnerable.

    3. Re: *My* Android Phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop being autistic.

    4. Re: *My* Android Phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about being able to understand English? It's kind of a thing if you're speaking or writing it and want to be understood.

  14. Because others can't? by Nikademus · · Score: 0

    So you are telling me that xiaomi can silently install apps, while google, HTC, Sony, Samsung,... can't? Wake up and follow the white rabbit.

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    1. Re:Because others can't? by cdsparrow · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure the issue here is that they do no signing of the binary installed. Sure google can do that through the play store, but you probably don't have to worry about the guy sitting in the corner at Starbucks tricking your phone into installing a root kit and backdoor to your phone.

      Any centralized update mech (and there are tons) has this capability. Just imagine what happens when somebody finally hacks wordpress' servers and keys and gets 80% of the wordpress installs out there to update to a nice new version that now controls the site from Estonia.

  15. Just like Samsung, AT&T, Apple, Verizon, LG, S by ebunga · · Score: 3

    And anybody and anything that half-way looks at your phone. Why doesn't the CFAA apply to these companies forcibly installing unwanted software on my pocket computer and making it impossible to uninstall that software?

  16. Bought their Mi band 2 today from eBay. by him4919 · · Score: 1

    Wondering what data that their app will be sending back to HQ.

  17. Why can't you write-protect your goddamned phone!? by kheldan · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why isn't there user-controlled write-protect on phones to prevent this sort of thing? You don't need to be able to install software on your goddamned phone so often that it needs to be in read/write mode all the time.

    Of course my question is rhetorical and the answer is obvious: smartphones are just surveillance and data collection devices. Read my new sigline, it says it all.

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  18. They should call Google.. by subk · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..And collect that $200,000 bounty

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  19. I can understand them doing it by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

    I just can't understanding not doing HTTPS/HSTS.

    1. Re:I can understand them doing it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A https server has the extra effort of understanding and dealing with 'certificates'. A http server is therefore easier to deploy quickly. Easier for the engineer who hasn't done it before and only has a 2-hour budget to do it before moving onto other deadlines. Less stuff to read up on.

  20. Re:Why can't you write-protect your goddamned phon by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately you probably lost 90% of your audience at "think."

  21. So... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    So, if I understand this story correctly, Xiaomi is just doing what those benevolent western tech companies do; except their implementation is absurdly shoddy.

    The total lack of package validation or SSL is pretty amateur hour; but the fact that your phone's vendor never really loosens its grip(until the day it gets bored of providing updates and just pretends it never sold the device) isn't something that started with sinister Chinese intrigue. "Google Play Services" can probably afford better software engineers; but it has capabilities at least as expansive.

  22. Deplorable but common practice... by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

    It might not be totally silent, but eventually if you have one of recent Sammy phones, you get persistent notifications that will not go away until you update "Samsung Apps" (it's own app store). A single press of that button and the app immediately installs without any sort of permission usage description or whatever. Maybe they don't do it over plain http, but they can still do what they want server side.

    And about this particular case, I wouldn't jump all my guns, because I doubt the source can prove all his claims: code that performs all these tasks can download an apk but is it actually using an install command on it? It can just be using some form of upgrade like what is available in vanilla Android, which would prevent a lot of bad things happening such as different validation keys. Also, the apks themselves might have to be signed by the company before even running the command, preventing anyone without this private key from doing so to modified apks. All in all I believe explanations are in order, but this only goes to show the big problem that is buying ANY platform that does not provide the source of the underlying OS and preinstalled, privilleged services on the device, including but not restricted to: Sammy, Xiaomi, HTC, Apple, Huawei, Nokia, Lenovo, Motorola, Siemens, Lg, Sony, Archos, even Google. And from any country. The user simply doesn't know what's going on, but he does place his trust in the closed source by signing privacy and end-user agreements, so there's that. Unless you're buying something like a CM supported device and/or install it on your phone, there's not much you should be amazed about. It's not hacking, it's power abuse, but you do give it to them.

    For instance, I would love to see someone explain me the difference of Google itself spicing up a random Play Store apk into something the user is not expecting. What is the difference? It might even be something that fails to pass Google's validation and enters their store contaminating whoever gets their curated software. There have always been viruses in Play and we all know it, it's no novelty, nothing is perfect. What's so different from Xiaomi really? Can't we trust they won't install decent software?

    We see a lot of criticism on the tech industry to chinese companies. I believe this is highly unfounded.

  23. Re:Just like Samsung, AT&T, Apple, Verizon, LG by Shakrai · · Score: 1

    Because the licensing agreement that you didn't bother to read said they can remotely update the software on your device at any time and without notice to you.

    If it bothers you invest in a Nexus or another device with an unlockable bootloader and install the open source ROM of your choice. If you wish, you can even fly without the Google Play framework, using F-Droid and/or sideloading your own APKs. It's entirely possible to have a completely open source Android device if you so desire.

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  24. I don't see it on latest Mi4 MIUI version by Ecuador · · Score: 1

    I don't see the running process or the file that is supposed to be under com.miui.analytics/cache, I am running the latest Mi4 MIUI version 7.5.1 Global, which was released a couple of months ago. So, perhaps they changed this behavior? The forum posts at least were older than that release. In any case it's been the best (and cheapest actually) Android phone I've had so far. Now, about spying, it really doesn't make a difference to me who it is that is performing it, Xiaomi, Apple, Google whoever tracks me it is the same for me and I am sure they all do when I use their devices. The vulnerability part is of concern though, however I didn't read about anyone actually testing to see whether a random/unsigned apk can indeed be installed automatically using this process. But hopefully my device is not a fluke and indeed it does not run on the latest OS version, possibly replaced by some more elegant and secure spyware ;)
    Note that one of the advantages of Xiaomi is that they give you frequent updates to the latest Android for several years, so if such a vulnerability is found even older devices can be updated.

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    1. Re:I don't see it on latest Mi4 MIUI version by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      blackberry androids do monthly updates, and only the Canucks spying on you.

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  25. Re:Why can't you write-protect your goddamned phon by Nemyst · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1) Android's system partition is, indeed, write-protected. Users can never write to it. However, there has to be a partition with RW rights for data storage, and that's also where all userland apps reside. This is important because users do, in fact, install software regularly, and also updates are pushed out fairly consistently. Having to remount the drive every time would be way more hassle than it's worth if you wanted it to be actually secure in any fashion.

    2) All of this is besides the point because the manufacturer is doing it. They could embed that behavior in the motherboard, in a hardware chip separate from the main CPU, they could put it in the firmware, they can do anything. Your "solution" is for a problem completely orthogonal to the issue at hand.

  26. Lenovo, too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since IBM sold its PC and laptop division to Lenovo, I've wondered the same about its products.

  27. I haven't seen this app on Samsung.. by FirstOne · · Score: 1

    In the first sentence of the first linked article it mentions Samsung phones are infected with this backdoor, I'm asking why would that be?

    I've got two rooted SAMSUNG galaxy class phones. Neither of them has this app installed. Why would Samsung allow a Rival to install modules on the phones they manufacturer, sell, support, and warranty?

    1. Re:I haven't seen this app on Samsung.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the first sentence of the first linked article it mentions Samsung phones are infected with this backdoor

      Does it, though?

      While it's no masterwork, the article merely raises the subject that smartphone vendors preinstall apps.

      It then jumps directly into what one Xiaomi app seems to do. The unspoken assumption that Xiaomi apps are only loaded on Xiaomi manufactured devices was left up to the reader, which you seemed to miss

    2. Re:I haven't seen this app on Samsung.. by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      In the first sentence of the first linked article it mentions Samsung phones are infected with this backdoor

      No it doesn't.

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    3. Re:I haven't seen this app on Samsung.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your reading comprehension skills are for shit.

      "Do you own an Android Smartphone from Xiaomi, HTC, Samsung, or OnePlus?
      If yes, then you must be aware that almost all smartphone manufacturers provide custom ROMs..."

      They are not saying that this Xiaomi backdoor is installed on all of those brands of phones. They are saying that nearly all phones have a backdoor installed by the manufacturer and that on Xiaomi the backdoor involves this specific app.

  28. Cheap tablets.. by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure most cheap tablets that all kinda looks the same, have same specs, and a bunch of weird apps and processes that behave weirdly are all infected with similar stuff.

    Got myself a cheap quadcore small tablet just to mess around a bit... tons of weird apps and processes running on the background, you can't uninstall them, and if you root the device and try to do it forcibly, the tablet factory resets itself. It went into the garbage bin.

  29. Take advantage of it!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's so easy for them to install malware or other crap onto your phone, why not take advantage?

    Since it's so easy to spoof this, install something else to get rid of this crap once and for all.

  30. Roll your own AnalyticsCore.apk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have an old Dell laptop on which I naively activated CompuTrace and it can't be turned off. The BIOS CompuTrace module places 3 executable files in c:\windows\system32 which phone home. The brilliantly simple fix I found somewhere online was to replace the 3 files with empty ones. (they might be mov ax,4ch; int 21 - I forget).

    So, could you roll your own AnalyticsCore.apk? Maybe one that messes with them? Or just does nothing?

    - bobby

    1. Re:Roll your own AnalyticsCore.apk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds quite feasible. If you use a tweaked DNS server, you could have it install it for you too.

      But can you create any app and have it update any android app to a massively high version number - thus removing Google films, books etc, or do the keys need to match?

  31. Sounds familiar by GrumpyNope · · Score: 1

    DT Ignite anyone?

  32. Fuck clickbait by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Xiaomi Can Silently Install Any App On Your Android Phone Using A Backdoor

    Oh really? On my Android phone, you say?

    Please stop blindly copying headlines. Stuff like this makes it look like you think us readers are dumb and can't be interested in a story unless it somehow personally affects us.

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    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
  33. Re:Just like Samsung, AT&T, Apple, Verizon, LG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it bothers you invest in a Nexus or another device with an unlockable bootloader and install the open source ROM of your choice. If you wish, you can even fly without the Google Play framework, using F-Droid and/or sideloading your own APKs. It's entirely possible to have a completely open source Android device if you so desire.

    That is a strange solutions since it is easy to both root and install a custom ROM on Xiaomis phones.
    You can also switch back to the official ROM at any time and still receive official updates.

  34. SubjectsInCommentsAreStupidCauseTheSubjectIsTFA by lesincompetent · · Score: 1

    What's the fucking surprise here?
    Good luck preventing Play Store or Play Services from doing the same to 'your' phone.
    Yes, it is a bad thing nonetheless.

  35. Cyanogen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I flash the phone with Cyanogen will this still be possible?

    1. Re:Cyanogen by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

      If I flash the phone with Cyanogen will this still be possible?

      Can someone who knows answer this question? I want to know too.

  36. samsung can do the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    google can. but you can actually block that(app updates).

    fyi, samsung has same. they only need your imei/id. its in mdm api's and "preconfigured installations" guise. same thing.

  37. not evil ... just devs being devs by fygment · · Score: 1

    likely just the devs making reaching out and touching a device easier on themselves.

    just think, the devs can push updates and instant fixes. they can also properly assess a customer complaint to see if it is their device or the customer has a crapload of malware on the device. its all just good business.

    not everything is a nefarious conspiracy.

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    "Consensus" in science is _always_ a political construct.
  38. Last posting in the forum thread.... by TheHawke · · Score: 1

    It comes from a beta team member: "No need to create unnecessary fuss about the issue."

    Heh, and how much Kool-Aid did you drink pal?

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    First rule of holes; When in one, stop digging.
  39. What idiot would buy a chinese smartphone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A person would have to be really stupid (or a chinese spy) to buy a chinese smartphone. It goes without saying (although I will say it anyway) that everything made in china is connected to the government and has backdoors for surveillance.

  40. Re:Why can't you write-protect your goddamned phon by kheldan · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure you understand. I want a hardware switch that write-protects the entire phone from anyone installing or writing anything to any of it's memory devices for any reason, working RAM excepted, of course (the OS and existing software need stack and heap space, of course). Of course, as you say, and as I've already pointed out, the whole game is rigged before you even get the phone; the manufacturer can put whatever on it and you'd never know, and the wireless company will put whatever on it, and you have no say in the matter. Really, it's enough to make me strongly consider abandoning cellphones completely and just go back to a plain, dumb, landline phone and an answering machine. Currently I have the cheapest flip-phone I could get, and even that could easily be compromised, wirelessly even, even though I've completely disabled any ability it has to connect it's minimal web browser to the Internet, AT&T I'm sure could push whatever code they want to the thing. At least I can turn it completely off, and remove the battery from it.

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    Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
  41. And the point is... by martinfb · · Score: 1

    And the point is...

    Prudence dictates that ANYONE intending to do any kind of electronic communications with intents of maintaining any sort of security, a thorough education is fully indicated before even shopping for a device.

    Otherwise, it is survival of the tech saavy-ist.

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    Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
  42. Pff. Good luck doing that to MY phone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My phone's rather on the old side; it only has roughly a 2 gigabyte capacity as far as internal storage goes, plus a 4 GB microSDHC card that I've moved parts of a lot of apps to. Despite how few apps I have on this phone, and the fact that portions of many of them have been moved to the microSDHC card, the phone's internal flash storage still has less than 200 megabytes of free space (which frequently causes certain apps to refuse to update, claiming I haven't enough free space to install the update).

    Even if I did get hacked with this thing, it wouldn't be able to install anything else to my phone.