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GNOME 3.22 Desktop Environment Officially Released (softpedia.com)
Reader prisoninmate writes: Today, September 21, is a big day for Linux users, especially those who love the GNOME desktop environment, as the next major release is now officially available. Yes, that's right, we're talking about GNOME 3.22, dubbed Karlsruhe after the German host city of the annual GUADEC (GNOME Users And Developers European Conference) event, which took place last month between August 12-14, 2016. Prominent features of the GNOME 3.22 desktop environment include batch rename functionality and support for integration of compressed files built directly into the Nautilus file manager, a new Week View, support for alarms, and the ability to drag and drop events to the GNOME Calendar, as well as an updated GNOME Music app that supports handling of music libraries with thousands of tracks. There are lots of improvements for the GNOME Games app as well, as it now offers support for numerous retro gaming consoles. Among other improvements, we can mention Flatpak integration, photo sharing, revamped GNOME Software app with support for firmware updates, redesigned keyboard settings and a brand new GNOME Control Center panel, and a redesigned dconf Editor. A video overview of the new features of GNOME 3.22 is available on the official website.
Wot? They added features to Nautilus? That is unpossible.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
When I first saw Gnome 3 I thought it was a great time to try tiling window managers. Four years later, I'm still using i3.
I've slowly watched the GTK3 toolkit get more and more horrible.
Who's funding Gnome today anyway?
Imagine if they'd spent the last decade making Gnome better, refining it, finding the annoying details, instead of spinning in circles. It would be the best desktop out there right now.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
dubbed Karlsruhe after the German host city of the annual GUADEC (GNOME Users And Developers European Conference) event
Instead of Karlsruhe, they should name it "Pyongyang", as the GNOME team's mentality towards their users is far more similar to that country.
I was a major GNOME hater when they transitioned to v.3 and I stuck with MATE. I just recently tried the beta for 3.22 though and honestly it's not so bad. The default configuration sucks though, you need to install a bunch of extensions and gnome-tweak-tool for it to be usable. But it looks very nice on a HiDPI screen, and I very much appreciate that the keyboard shortcuts to any GNOME app can be displayed with Ctrl+?. Also I didn't experience any crashes or bugs in my time of using it, so it seems pretty stable.
I just wish it was more lightweight like Xfce and MATE, and the defaults didn't require so much tweaking. But overall it's fairly good right now.
None of the aforementioned were forced on anybody. But actually, bringing them up shows how different the free software ecosystem is compared to Windows'. On Windows, you have to use unsupported software to avoid bad changes, like the spyware in Windows 10. If you preferred GNOME2 to Unity or GNOME3, you can use MATE; all the major distros support it. And if you don't like systemd, some distros still support the other inits, and Slackware and Gentoo still by default don't use it.
Free software is awesome because of the choice and liberty at your disposal.
Declining user base. I'm sure that when the Free user base has no choice, they'll choose gnome, until then redhat will push the ball of crap up hill. Sisyphus had it easy, I wouldn't want to be rolled over repeatedly by gnome.
Today, September 21, is a foul pox upon mankind in this foul year of our lord 2016 for Linux users, especially those who love seizure-inducing lensflares and widgets lifted straight from the rough draft of Minority Report, as the next iteration of a cautionary tale in software development is now officially available. Yes, that's right, we're talking about GNOME 3.22, dubbed Karlsruhe after the German demon that feasts on the remains of the QC team whom it slaughtered, which took place last month between August 12-14, 2016. Prominent features of the GNOME 3.22 desktop environment include batch rename functionality in the hands of those least qualified, and support for integration of compressed files built directly into a system that will grind to a halt upon their encounter, a new Week View, support for alarms other than segmentation faults, and the ability to drag and drop both your once unbroken pride and self respect to the GNOME Calendar, as well as an updated GNOME Music app that supports handling of music libraries with thousands of tracks until it inexplicably cant, or wont. There are lots of improvements for the GNOME Games app as well, as it now offers support for numerous retro gaming consoles whether you wanted them or not. Among other improvements, we can mention Flatpak integration for chinstrap hipster code camp junkies vaping salvia, photo sharing that youve been doing in the browser for 5 years now, revamped GNOME Software app with support for firmware updates which sounds important but means nothing, infuriatingly redesigned keyboard settings and a marketing-driven reskin of the GNOME Control Center panel, and a redesigned dconf Editor we call windows registry simulator 2003 thats guaranteed to provide your own personal hell from which the only escape you once called linux now lays before you a corrupt degenerate called GNOME. A video overview of the new features of GNOME 3.22 is available on the official website titled "where is your god now."
Good people go to bed earlier.
Hey there buddy, I was expecting someone to trot out this old 'you can choose on Linux' argument.
Please answer the following questions:'
How many distros use Gnome or one of its mutant strains as the default DE?
I dunno, there's too many distros to count.
How many distros use systemd?
See above.
What percentage of the Linux user world gets Gnome or system forced down their throat in the default, out of box loadout?
Couldn't tell you what percentage of Linux users use a distro with GNOME or systemd as the default, see above. But as to how many of them are being forced, zero. All of them can download Slackware or CRUX or Debian or an older still-supported version of other distros if they want to.
Really, I don't understand why you're so vehement about these two particular projects. I don't see you complaining about how the Linux kernel and the GNU coreutils and vi and X.org are tyrannical defaults and they're forced on you. They're even more prevalent than GNOME and systemd are. I guess the difference is there's no herd of sheep to follow in neverending complaints for those others like GNOME and systemd have.
How many users of those distros change their DE away from Gnome or try to strip out the systemd cancer?
See the above.
How many distros use Gnome or one of its mutant strains as the default DE?
How many distros use systemd?
What percentage of the Linux user world gets Gnome or system forced down their throat in the default, out of box loadout?
How many users of those distros change their DE away from Gnome or try to strip out the systemd cancer?
Gentoo user here. One answer for all those questions: Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
2.x and then MATE are the real Gnome.
For every problem, there is at least one solution that is simple, neat, and wrong.
Most distros offer you a choice of DEs, which you can select during installation itself: if you choose an advanced installation, you can select which DEs you don't wanna install, and that includes Gnome. I would think most, if not all, Linux users had to install Linux over an existing Windows partition, and had that choice. If someone just went w/ the default and the default happened to be Gnome, one can't claim that it was forced on him. Myself a PC-BSD user, but when I first installed PC-BSD, I did it w/ KDE and LXDE; next time I install it, it would be w/ Lumina if it is TrueOS, and Razor-qt/LXQT if it is a Linux distro
I don't care if you like or don't like GNOME or systemd. There's things I like about them and things I don't as well. If you want to boycott them, power to you. Do whatever it takes for you to get your work done.
What I take issue with are the people who smear free software by saying that anything was "forced" on them despite the fact that alternatives exist. What's the point of using free software if you're going to crawl into a fetal position and weep yourself to sleep whenever something you don't like is the default?
Firstly, if I'm shilling for anybody it's Ubuntu. Go through my posting history, whenever somebody asks for a Linux recommendation I've always said Ubuntu MATE.
But I'm not a shill for anybody. Just a promoter of free software. I don't care what DE or init you use. Just don't spread insane lies about FOSS while you're at it.
I'm a Gentoo user too, but I do gave a damn. I can use Gentoo on my home desktop and my work laptop. It's great. But what about servers?
For a distro I want to use in a production environment, I don't have any real non-systemd choices. My best bet is to package everything in docker containers, so it's easy to redeploy them on anything.
Systemd does solve the full process management problem. That is a real problem. But it also does a bijallion other things it doesn't need to and a GUI/desktop layer certainly shouldn't depend on it.
So far Gentoo and Slackware are the only two major distros without it (Gentoo it's optional, as it should be in all Linux distros!).
It might not affect me or you, but it affects our decisions on what to use to deploy stuff on severs.
PS: I am a typist that uses CLI all the time. Heck, why do I need a GUI if I'm going to launch by typing?
Slackware's the most stable Linux distro I've ever used. Why don't you deploy that for your servers?
Slackware has a package manager: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
and just like gnome, the link is broken...
Free software is awesome because of the choice and liberty at your disposal.
The problem is that people don't want choice and liberty, then want to spend $$$ on stuff from one of two giant, dominating corporations, and then bitch and complain when it's broken and doesn't work to their liking.
But actually, bringing them up shows how different the free software ecosystem is compared to Windows'. On Windows, you have to use unsupported software to avoid bad changes, like the spyware in Windows 10. If you preferred GNOME2 to Unity or GNOME3, you can use MATE; all the major distros support it. And if you don't like systemd, some distros still support the other inits, and Slackware and Gentoo still by default don't use it.
Free software is awesome because of the choice and liberty at your disposal.
Yeah but there is something about consistency. Sure if you do your work on one computer and have the time to tweak and spin until you get it right OK. But if work on a multitude of computers and support even more it is a pain. I really wish Gnome stuck with the Gnome2 theme and polished it to shine. They missed a window of opportunity when MS released the bastardize Win8 Metro interface... unfortunately they both seem to coordinate GUI screwups.
It doesn't have automatic dependency resolution, but it does tell you what a package depends on and if you already have it installed, so it's just adding one additional step for the user.
The Slackware devs prefer it that way since they want to keep track of what they're installing.
You're doing Unix wrong. When slapt tells you what dependencies you need, pipe it into your next command, don't manually type everything in.
I use Gentoo on my servers.
Oh please, what's our alternative for systemd(icks)? We can switch to BSD, I guess, or Gentoo. That's about it at this point.
What, all four days of it?
You are Lennart Poetterring AICMFP.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Make GNOME great again! /ducks
Those too could be solved. And yes, it was loverly when package management became robust.
Every Linux user should know how to install a Linux Kernel.
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
I watched the video showing new features, and one of the new features is: you double-click on an archive and it automatically extracts the contents in the same directory as the archive.
I don't want that. I want it to not work that way. In fact I want it to work exactly like it works in my MATE desktop: I can double-click an archive and it opens in an archive manager app, and there is an "Extract" button in that app.
I could see putting a right-click menu option "Extract..." if it's so freaking important to extract an archive with minimal steps. But making the default for double-clicking be to extract in place? No no no.
lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
None of the aforementioned were forced on anybody.
They were very definitely forced on people. When Ubuntu 11.10 came out they removed Gnome2 and replaced it with the completely different and incompatible Gnome3. MATE didn't exist yet. There was no simple way to downgrade again either. You were stuck with a system that got completely broken duo to the upgrade and it took years before MATE made it into Ubuntu.
As fucked up as the Windows10 upgrade was, at least that one I could roll back with a few clicks. Linux package manager on the other side aren't quite clever enough to allow a system wide downgrade. Windows also has the advantage of having really good backward/forward compatibility, so it's much easier to run an outdated Windows than it is to run an outdated Linux. And before somebody says "Use LTS", those have a whole heap of problems of their own and the lack of support for third-party apps in Linux means you are stuck with two year old software or a lot of manual fiddling.
As much as I like Free Software, that Ubuntu 11.10 upgrade was easily the worst upgrade experience I ever had on any OS and Free Software is extremely lacking when it comes to software longlifety.
Slackware, Gentoo, Devuan, CRUX, the oldstable of CentOS or Debian (both still supported), Linux From Scratch, any of the minor or more obscure distros that are based on the aforementioned, etc.
I also point out that SysVinit-core is still supported on a lot of distros that use systemd by default, such as Debian.
Really, you haven't lost any choice. In actuality, now you have more choice and diversity! Before there was just SysVinit and BSD init, now there's those two plus systemd, upstart, and OpenRC. Plus somebody could port over launchd and smf in the future.
People are complaining about Gnome and systemd because they suck and cause major frustration.
So use something else then?
Watch this Heartland Institute video
Oh please, what's our alternative for systemd?
It says what the alternatives are right there:
systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart
Watch this Heartland Institute video
I gave gnome3 time to prove itself until last month. I never did like gnome 3.. stupid ass interface and even with tweaks its still lacking in functionality.. I finally jumped ship to cinnamon desktop on fedora.. agreed it uses some components from gnome 3 but its way better... cant believe gnome 3 never got better with any of the releases.. Iam still confused with the audience.. do they intend it for touch screen or keyboard.. the entire desktop space is just wasted .. no way to do anything besides a wall paper..
They were very definitely forced on people. When Ubuntu 11.10 came out they removed Gnome2 and replaced it with the completely different and incompatible Gnome3. MATE didn't exist yet. There was no simple way to downgrade again either. You were stuck with a system that got completely broken duo to the upgrade and it took years before MATE made it into Ubuntu.
You *chose* to update away from the LTS, so claiming that it was *forced* on you is total insanity. It's like saying that french fries were forced on me because they came with the burger that I got for free at a charity event.
As fucked up as the Windows10 upgrade was, at least that one I could roll back with a few clicks.
Many peoples' computers got bricked in the process, and not all of them had prepared a recovery disk/drive.
And before somebody says "Use LTS", those have a whole heap of problems of their own and the lack of support for third-party apps in Linux means you are stuck with two year old software or a lot of manual fiddling.
Literally every third party program I've ever seen either supported ONLY the Ubuntu LTS, or every supported Ubuntu version. Also, two-year old software! Lord have mercy! If you need the bleeding edge software the second it comes out, maybe you'd be happier with Arch Linux than Ubuntu.
Your claims are completely ridiculous, honestly. I'm sorry you regretted your OS update, but smearing the people who did all of the work and gave it to you for free is not the right answer.
I don't care if you like or don't like GNOME or systemd. There's things I like about them and things I don't as well. If you want to boycott them, power to you. Do whatever it takes for you to get your work done.
What I take issue with are the people who smear free software by saying that anything was "forced" on them despite the fact that alternatives exist. What's the point of using free software if you're going to crawl into a fetal position and weep yourself to sleep whenever something you don't like is the default?
I found some Gnome extensions (tweaks) to be the ice-cream on the apple pie. With the tweaks, I have tailored some of Gnome to my liking.
One that is outstanding is Taskbar by Zpydr. Its a true winner. Don't believe me, then try it for yourself.
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I don't even know the name of the desktop environment that I'm using, and I care less. I just want to not have to re-learn it at some random time in the future, chosen by someone I've never heard of for reasons I don't care about.
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