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Hacker Who Aided ISIS Gets 20 Years In Prison (softpedia.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Softpedia: Ardit Ferizi, aka Th3Dir3ctorY, 20, a citizen of Kosovo, will spend 20 years in a U.S. prison for providing material support to ISIS hackers by handing over data for 1,351 U.S. government employees. Ferizi obtained the data by hacking into a U.S. retail company on June 13, 2015. The hacker then filtered the stolen information and put aside records related to government officials, which he later handed over to Junaid Hussain, the then leader of the Islamic State Hacking Division (ISHD). Hussain then uploaded this information online, asking fellow ISIS members to seek out these individuals and execute lone wolf attacks. Because of this leak, the U.S. Army targeted and killed Hussain in a drone strike in Syria in August 2015. Before helping ISIS, Ferizi had a prodigious hacking career as the leader of Kosova Hacker's Security (KHS) hacking crew. He was arrested on October 6, 2015, at the international airport in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, while trying to catch a flight back to Kosovo. Ferizi was in Kuala Lumpur studying computer science.
From Kosovo, arrested in Malaysia, and now jailed in the USA.
Is every justice system in the world subservient to the American system?
It seems more reasonable to return him to where he committed the crime (Kosovo?) and have him dealt with there, doesn't it?
If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
This is reality, crimes have consequences
Not when committed by the US government.
20 years is a little bit much for hacking, if I can say so myself.
Is every justice system in the world subservient to the American system?
Yes, well, no, not *every*. For instance not North Korea, but (as a result, therefore) everybody seems to hate North Korea.
And of course North Korea will have not right (to nuclear weapons) to defend itself against 'the American System'.
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
'meeting a drone' would have constituted extra-judicial killing. It's appalling that people here seem to condone that.
I bet you are also against president Duterte of some far-off Asian country extra-judicially killing drug traffickers because the judicial system just doesn't work?
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
It would help your point if you knew the country - it's not hard to understand the Philippines and why Duerte gained power. His former province under his governorship became the one of the most attractive sites for new business because of increased security. Certainly there are issues with methods but the Phillipines is sovereign and it doesn't matter what a random person on the internet thinks of it.
And of course the proper response to such crimes is to commit more crimes against more innocents in retaliation.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Because god hate trash, enjoyment, life and people and like everything which is bad and dull.
You have a better recommendation?
Just what should someone in Afghanistan do when a US drone strike kills her sister? Fucking celebrate?
Kosovo is a dysfunctional pseudo-state that exists in limbo between two states that don't really want that mess to be integrated into their polities: Serbia and Albania. Serbia is Orthodox Christian and Albania is an extremely moderate predominantly Muslim country. Neither of them are comfortable with ISIS supporters in their backyards. Malaysia sure as heck doesn't want ISIS supporters either. So what you call subservience is rather simply all of the parties involved except Kosovo effectively saying "this guy targeted the US Government, the US Government wants him and we sure as hell don't want him. Let the US Government spend the time and resources to clean this guy's clock."
"ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies... to fight to the death against Hezbollah." ref
Sheesh, after all this time you still don't get that everyone in the MidEast is chewing gum and walking at the same time. They all have multiple agendas. Calling something over there this or that in its entirety is simply Western hubris, i.e., if we think this way, everyone thinks this way.
and trump may of been the one to pull the switch on old sparky
fpmita prison and he's lucky that it's not death row
I think you're the clown that you want to put aside the legal protections that made it sure only the guilty get punished, and not everybody that is a suspect.
You are innocent until guilt is proven. Not 'guilty because some unknown government employee thinks you are', and then comes to kill you, family and friends included.
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
My point?
My point is that the whole world seems to have problems with Duterte's death squads, in a souvereign country indeed, but don't blink an eye if Obama makes up his weekly kill list.
Of people in *other souvereign countries.
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
Yeah, that's been one of the issues w/ US policy. Opposed to some Jihadi movements, like the Taliban, al Qaeda, ISIS, Hizbullah, while being supportive of Jihadi governments, like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar. It blows a hole in the war on terror argument. Which is why I prefer the alt Right, that recognizes ALL of Islam as the enemy!!!
Kosovo's people are the ones who have problems w/ not just Serbs, but Macedonians as well. It's not like Serbia is the lone bully there. Also, Serbia is expected to part w/ Kosovo on ethnic/religious grounds, but in the meantime, Serbs in Bosnia's Srpska region, which borders Serbia and who wanna join Serbia, can't b'cos the 'international community' is supportive of the Muslim peoples of the region - Albanians and Bosniaks.
Ironically, all the Jihadi attacks we've seen since 9/11 - had there been attacks from Serb terrorists, I wouldn't call it justified, but they'd at least have had more of a rationale than the Jihadi ones. However, the Serbs have never reacted that way against the US, despite being at the receiving end of a racist, anti-Slavonic campaign by primarily Western Europe, and the US as well. In the US war against Saddam, they supported the US, and in return, the US voted for the independence declaration of Kosovo. When one looks at things in this light, Russia did the only sensible thing by walking into Crimea - there's no way the US or Europe would have supported the aspirations of the Russkies there. But back to my point - one would have expected Serbs to be doing this stuff like hacking US sites in retaliation for the ugly way Serbia has been treated throughout this millenium. Instead, it's a Muslim Kosovar, who has every reason to thank the US but whose Islamic duty of hating the Infidels trumps all that, who does it.
Funny how US policies of appeasing people like the Albanians, Bosniaks, Palis (pressure on Israel to eliminate settlements), Saudis, Kuwaitis (attack on Chattanooga), Qataris tends to have a blowback effect
The Russians are doing pretty good as well. Snowden is still safe from being extradited. Now everyone is hating the Russians though.
So is Ecuador, where Assange is hiding
Great idea!
Erh... umm... where should I send the nuke?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Only because he is in their embassy in London and it would be bad form to bomb the London embassy. If he would live in Equador himself he would probably already have had an "accident".
Think he meant Kuala Lumpur - the other city mentioned in the summary. I don't like obscure abbreviations either, but this is one I've heard Malaysians use.
Actually, both are right. While ISIS is al Qaeda in Iraq, it's evolved to more than that, thanks to the West getting its hands dirty in the so called Arab Spring, and happily endorsing the toppling of Ben Ali, Mubaraq, Gadaffi and then Assad. While the first 3 went easily and the West made an assumption about these peacefully transitioning into pluralistic societies - none of which happened - in Syria's case, what resulted was a civil war, since there was no way the Alawites were gonna let the Sunnis come to power, similar to Shi'ites in Iraq. That would have resulted in a revenge bloodbath.
Also, while HRC, who I fully oppose, did do her part in destabilizing the whole region, it's worth remembering that at the time, even the Republicans supported toppling Gadaffi, and only changed their views on what was going on after Benghazi. Trump however was on record as saying that removing strongmen like Mubaraq and Gadaffi just destabilized the region. In case of Egypt, they recovered by undoing the Morsi coup (or else, Egypt would have been an ISIS republic today) and El Sisi just minding their own business in putting Egypt back together, and not bothering about leadership of the Arab League, leaving it to KSA and Qatar. Libya, on the other hand, became another Somalia.
Incidentally, the Republicans (not including Trump here) are in a time warp of their own in the 80s. For them, it's still about a contest w/ Russia for influence, as well as not forgetting the days of enmity during the golden age of Reagan. Yeah, in the 80s, Gadaffi was a terrorist, and he did deserve to be bombed in 1986. But after the ouster of Saddam Hussein, apart from the mess that was Iraq, one good effect of that war was Gadaffi deciding to reform and repair relations w/ the West. He voluntarily exposed and ended his WMD program, decided to settle the financial claims of everybody who hated him due to Lockerbie, and restored diplomatic relations w/ Western countries, particularly the US and UK. Once that happened, we had no business trying to topple him.
Instead, by participating in the bombing of Libya in response to schizophrenic appeals by the Arab League (who on one hand wanted the US to destroy Gadaffi's fighting abilities but on the other, not to hurt Libyan citizens), the West created a situation where Gadaffi was savagely murdered and replaced initially by an Islamic regime, and later by something nobody can figure out. In the meantime, ISIS took over Cyrenaica, and Benghazi happened. What that's done is telegraph any dictator anywhere in the world who's hostile to the US - 'Don't bother kissing & making up - the West will have no qualms about stabbing you in the back'. Good job, Obama, Hilary, McCain, Boehner, Hannity (who supported this at the time, even if he opposed it afterwards) et al.
Just because it doesn't fit your primary school idea of war doesn't mean we must not address the actions of non-state actors threatening as a group the US and all allies, as well as in cases of Boko Haram and ISIS, etc. those targeting western civilization itself.
Happens all the time. If a person commits a crime against country A and they are in country B, country A may well ask country B to hand them over. If it happens or the details of it vary based off of the specific countries and their treaties, called extradition treaties. For example the US and North Korea? Ya not happening. There are no extradition treaties between those two, and the governments hate each other. so nobody is getting handed over. However EU nations? Extremely strong extradition treaties. If you commit a crime against Germany from France, Germany will have France arrest you and ship you over to stand trial.
The majority of nations have extradition treaties of some level with each other since they don't want criminals able to run off and hide from justice. It has been a thing for a long time.
Kuala Lumpur. I thought the context should have made it clear. Sorry if it wasn't so obvious.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Yeah, but they "totally deserved it."
This thread is going places.
Wish I hadn't already commented, this was a trolling well-constructed enough that it justifies +1, Funny.
Quit trying to cover up the fact that Al Qaeda in Iraq rebounded from the surge because Obama cut-and-ran from Iraq
The US was required to leave Iraq via the agreement negotiated by President Bush. If the US had stayed, it would have broken the agreement and been a wholesale conquering of Iraq and reduction of it to US territory status, something that both Democratic and Republican administrations had vehemently denied was the goal.
And tell me, big shot. Just how long should the US have stayed in Iraq? Another 5 years? Another 10 years? Another 20 years? However long it took to attain an unattainable goal, the defeat of terrorism? Were you going to enlist into the military to go there? Yourself? Why not, if securing Iraq was really that important to you?