Windows 10 Now On 400 Million Active Devices, Says Microsoft (thurrott.com)

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Windows 10 Now On 400 Million Active Devices, Says Microsoft (thurrott.com)

Posted by msmash on Monday September 26, 2016 @05:25AM from the dominance dept.

Microsoft announced today that Windows 10 is now running on over 400 million active devices. This is up from 300 million as of May, and 207 million as of end of the March. The company says that it deems devices that have been active in the past 28 days as "active." Microsoft added that this 400 million active devices figure include tablets and phones as well as Xbox One consoles, HoloLens, and Surface Hubs running Windows 10. Paul Thurrott adds:Microsoft last provided a Windows 10 usage milestone on June 29, when it said that there were 350 million active Windows 10 devices. At that time, I noted that the Windows 10 adoption had accelerated from the previous milestone, hitting an average of almost 29 million new devices per month. But 50 million additional devices over three months is a much slower pace of about 17 million per month. This is the slowest rate since Windows 10 was first announced. Again, no surprise there: Windows 10 was free for its first year, and over that time period it averaged roughly 31.25 million new devices per month (if you assume a figure of 375 million after one year, as I do). Does this mean that Windows 10 will see fewer than 20 million new devices each month, on average, going forward? No, of course not. There's no way to accurately gauge how things will go, given that most future devices will be new PCs purchased by businesses or consumers, or business PCs upgraded to Windows 10.

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How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:28 · Score: 5, Insightful

willingly?
1. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:31 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Word on the street is that the majority of devices running it have become inactive so the numbers may be much better for Microsoft.
2. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 05:36 · Score: 0
  
  willingly?
  EXACTLY what I came here to say...
3. Re:How many of those... by Shortguy881 · 2016-09-26 05:42 · Score: 0
  
  350 Million are those surface tablets written off by Microsoft.
  
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4. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:01 · Score: 0
  
  What is the adoption rate in China?
5. Re:How many of those... by hairyfeet · 2016-09-26 06:12 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Does this count the huge numbers that took the free upgrade, found they didn't like it (or just wanted to lock in the upgrade) and then went back? Does this count units sold to stores but not through to end users?
  This is why I don't buy the numbers put out by companies, there is just too many ways they can manipulate the data to make it look bigger than the actual figures indicate.
  
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6. Re:How many of those... by Penguinisto · 2016-09-26 06:14 · Score: 1
  
  willingly?
  Precisely.
  At the rate things are going, W10 will become the most successful and rapid malware spread since the old "I love you" email virus of 1999...
  (no really, I'm fully willing to wager that, say, at least 50% of the installs were pushed onto an ignorant public who would not have otherwise bothered, 10-20% more were shoved onto machines whose owner consciously wanted no such thing, maybe 10-20% from people who actually wanted the thing, and the rest just showed up on new computers.)
  
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7. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:30 · Score: 0
  
  Count mine as "unwillingly". I woke up to a beep at 2am to see my computer at "17% Done installing Windows 10". I'm not ignorant, so I knew when it was done I could go back to Windows 7 for 30 days.
  As it turned out, I just left it on there. Nice little Operating System if all you do is Web browsing and e-mail, especially as long as you realize your Android cell phone is giving out more information to Google than Microsoft could ever HOPE to glean from you.
8. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:31 · Score: 0
  
  Apple tried to force iOS 10 on my iPAD as well if you do update there is no way back without jailbreaking due to them using their own version of secure boot. and in Linux land they add timebombs if you don't upgrade as well.
9. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:40 · Score: 0
  
  if you have the philosophy of build a wall
10. Re:How many of those... by FatdogHaiku · 2016-09-26 06:44 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  Here is a different take on the story:
  http://www.computerworld.com/article/3032976/microsoft-windows/there-s-something-fishy-about-those-windows-10-market-share-numbers.html
  
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11. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:46 · Score: 1, Interesting
  
  My Android phone doesn't have any Google account on it. I've never installed a Google Play app, just F-Droid apps.
  What information is it giving out to Google?
12. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:50 · Score: 0
  
  willingly?
  This.
  Bought my wife a new laptop because she smashed her old one.
  Got Windows 10.
  Don't like it. We'd rather have 7, or XP because that's what she's used to.
13. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:16 · Score: 0
  
  ^^^This.
14. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:30 · Score: 0
  
  and there will be one less the minute I can afford a new mac book.
15. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:41 · Score: 0
  
  Something positive about M$?? NO!! It must be a conspiracy, they are evil and everything they do is bad, even when they do the opposite thing!
16. Re: How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:44 · Score: 0
  
  Whar search engine do you use ? Do you have cookies enabled ?
17. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:52 · Score: 0
  
  And, the sad thing is the vast majority of my coworkers and friends that want to upgrade, can't since you're not allowed to upgrade certain editions and most versions of Windows. At work, we're all still running Vista due to a bug with a .NET framework and our inventory software, and even though it was fixed in June, we weren't allowed to upgrade. If Microsoft wanted people to use 10, they would allow us to upgrade.
18. Re:How many of those... by gweilo8888 · 2016-09-26 08:00 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Exactly. Speaking personally, of the four machines (three laptop, one desktop) in my house that were eligible for the upgrade, only one has been upgraded, and that solely as a hedge against needing to use a Win10-specific app in the future. That machine has only even been booted three times in the last year, and is switched off 99%+ of the time. The upgrade was intentionally blocked by me on every other machine in my household. I don't doubt for a second that Microsoft is counting me as a success in its reporting, however, even if it claims not to be. They've simply been caught lying, cheating and trying to screw over their own customers too many times to think otherwise.
19. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:10 · Score: 0
  
  This exactly. Google has no access to my real life contacts and if they have them, they stole em.
20. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:34 · Score: 0
  
  Apparently there must be well over 1 billion people in Asia who either use an old version of Windows or Linux.
  Is Microsoft even targeting users outside of the USA and Western Europe?
  Considering that we are not engaged in a thermonuclear war, I'm guessing the answer is "NO".
21. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:44 · Score: 0
  
  I know right?! These fuckers are always copying Apple ! I can't find a way to run the latest Xcode on Snow Leopard. (Meanwhile everything runs on Win7). iOS constantly nags you (with no option to decline) to update. And updates slow down the device to the point where you are forced to throw it away. Like seriously Microsoft, stop fucking copying Apple !!!!
22. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 08:44 · Score: 0
  
  That is because you are a Mac fanboy who shills for Apple no matter what feces they shovel our for the people. I don't know why you are so biased, but I'd be embarrassed to be you. Now hopefully you get paid for your shilling... otherwise, you are a really sad person.
  Apparently not as sad as someone who is so fearful that they feel the need to attack someone from the sanctity of an ANONYMOUS COWARD.
23. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 08:51 · Score: 0
  
  Does this count the huge numbers that took the free upgrade, found they didn't like it (or just wanted to lock in the upgrade) and then went back? Does this count units sold to stores but not through to end users?
  This is why I don't buy the numbers put out by companies, there is just too many ways they can manipulate the data to make it look bigger than the actual figures indicate.
  I'd love to answer, Mr. Feet; but according to some snot-nosed AC, I'm an Apple shill, and so cannot have an opinion on Windows 10 (even though I spend my working-hours employed writing WINDOWS Application Code). (rolls eyes)
24. Re:How many of those... by Rhipf · 2016-09-26 09:20 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Microsoft is only counting machines that have been turned on (and I assume connected to the Internet) in the last 28 days as active devices. So the number of devices that have Windows 10 installed could be significantly higher than the number stated. If you haven't had your Windows 10 machine on the Internet in the last 28 days it wouldn't have been counted in the 400 million (so all those systems that had Windows 10 installed just to register the machine then returned to a previous version also wouldn't have been counted).
25. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 09:22 · Score: 1
  
  I know right?! These fuckers are always copying Apple ! I can't find a way to run the latest Xcode on Snow Leopard. (Meanwhile everything runs on Win7). iOS constantly nags you (with no option to decline) to update. And updates slow down the device to the point where you are forced to throw it away. Like seriously Microsoft, stop fucking copying Apple !!!!
  Actually, AC, I was fearful of upgrading my Ancient iPad 2 and my sort-of-ancient iPhone 4s to the last-possible OS (iOS 9.3.5), because I was convinced it would slow them down to the point of uselessness. But, since they were both pretty far behind, OS-wise (the iPad was on iOS 7.1.2, and the iPhone was on iOS 8.something), and iOS 10 was about to come out in a few days (and which was not compatible with either device), I figured I'd better just grit my teeth and do it while I still could.
  
  However, not only are they NOT any slower, they might be just a touch snappier overall. Not a whole lot, and I did have ONE third-party App that got Orphaned (SampleTank, but that's on them); but it certainly wasn't ANYTHING like the horrorshow of "unusability" that many people (falsely?) reported. I continue to use the iPad 2 several hours each and every day. The iPhone 4s has been "in retirement" for quite some time.
  
  As for running the latest XCode (XCode 8!!!) on SL (which came with XCode 3 or 4)? Seriously? And besides, there are PLENTY of Applications that won't run on a 32-bit version of Windows 7; so don't give me THAT crap!
  
  If you want to run XCode 8, depending on your Mac, you could likely install El Capitan (or Yosemite) on an external Drive, and boot from it to do XCode 8 Development. Time DOES march on. SL came out in June, 2009. It really IS time to move on to a newer version of OS X/macOS. ESPECIALLY if you are doing DEVELOPMENT, FFS!!!
  
  As for iOS "Constantly" Nagging you: Fortunately, there IS a way to stop it. And albeit a not-very-intuitive solution, but it is very simple. By the way, that took exactly 1 second to Google; so you MUST not have been TOO annoyed, eh?
26. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 09:32 · Score: 1
  
  Sorry to reply to my own post; but...
  
  And besides, there are PLENTY of Applications that won't run on a 32-bit version of Windows 7
  I meant 64 bit (only) versions of Windows (which came pre-installed on a lot of machines). That is a barrel of incompatibility!
27. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 09:35 · Score: 0
  
  Umm your nick name is the first clue that paints you as a shill.
28. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 10:30 · Score: 0
  
  However, not only are they NOT any slower, they might be just a touch snappier overall.
  Dude. This is a flat out lie. I _FUCKING DARE_ you to post a side by side video comparing basic things like launching apps, loading websites, playing music on iOS 5 vs 9 on a iPhone 4S. You know how I know? Because I fucking have one. Apple bent me over and fucked me. Hard.
  
  As for running the latest XCode (XCode 8!!!) on SL (which came with XCode 3 or 4)? Seriously?
  Seriously. Visual Studio 2015 doesn't have any problems running on Windows 7. Also WTF do you mean by 'seriously'? Are you even a developer? Do you know the pain that is the Apple Treadmill? Yeah?! Fuck you.
  
  ESPECIALLY if you are doing DEVELOPMENT, FFS!!!
  No. I don't have to drop thousands of dollars each year to run a compiler. ESPECIALLY a compiler. FFS!! Its a compiler. All it does from the OS perspective is open files and close files. FFS !! wizened up and switched away from Xcode.
  
  As for iOS "Constantly" Nagging you: Fortunately, there IS a way to stop it. And albeit a not-very-intuitive solution, but it is very simple. By the way, that took exactly 1 second to Google; so you MUST not have been TOO annoyed, eh?
  I tried that. It only deletes it once. iOS keeps re-downloading the update whenever you connect back on WiFi. You have no fucking clue what the hell you're talking about, buddy, because you're the kind of person that bends over with a smile every-time Apple comes at you with a shiny spiked dildo to fuck you over with.
  OK but to be honest, yes, there is actually a way to block iOS updates. I had to setup an IP block on my network's firewall that blocks the update server. But you know what? Apple still managed to fuck me over because thanks to the _terrible_ quality of iOS (as seen repeatedly by complaints in Apple Forums, asking techs in repair shops and speaking to anyone who is not a professional Apple flag waver) my 6s shat the bed and iTunes only allows you to restore to the latest iOS version. You can't get back the version you want. So they still manage to fuck you again while they were already fucking you with their shitty iOS quality.
  You should have kept your pretty mouth shut. Great. Now everyone knows you're full of shit.
29. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 10:33 · Score: 0
  
  Want to buy my MacBook Pro? Apple just dropped support for it arbitrarily, but not not other Macs configured with lesser hardware. But if you're naive enough to think a Mac Book is your salvation from Windows 10, I'm sure you'll happily pay a fair price it. I've used Macs for almost 30 years now, and they're NOT what they used to be. It takes a fool to think Apple is any better than Microsoft now days.
30. Re:How many of those... by gweihir · 2016-09-26 11:17 · Score: 0
  
  As this is MS, it will include anything they can stick in there without being too obvious. They need to have success with this one, so they are cheating, coercing and lying as far as they think they can go without being slapped down too hard. Better strategy would have been to actually make a good product, but hey, this is MS.
  
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31. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 11:41 · Score: 1
  
  AC is right.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
32. Re:How many of those... by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-26 11:54 · Score: 1
  
  Mac? Oh you mean that computer that runs an OS that's less than 5% marketshare? Or about 1/5th that of Windows 10? Or about 1/18th that of Windows as a whole?
  
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33. Re:How many of those... by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-26 12:01 · Score: 1
  
  Awesome video! Excellent, factual rebuttal of the shill that is macs4all...
  
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34. Re:How many of those... by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-26 12:03 · Score: 1
  
  I use PaintShop Pro 8.1 all the time. Bought it in 2003. It's 32 bit. And runs flawlessly on Windows 10. Why upgrade the program if it works great, and does what I need? Just because the OS supports 64 bit doesn't mean it cannot support 32 bit as well. Thankfully Microsoft understands the power of backwards compatibility...
  
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35. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 12:18 · Score: 0
  
  And yet you can't name just one example. Shillers are rarely equipped with the facts to back up their bullshit claims. It also must really burn your biscuits that there is so LITTLE software that actually runs on OSX to begin with.
36. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 12:30 · Score: 0
  
  OH YES! You're so brave for registering an account on Slashdot. I mean, you actually had to provide an email address to register. As we all know, that's not easy to do since there aren't any free email services available on the Internet that can be acquired without supplying verified credentials and identity verification. Now, everyone on Slashdot can see your deeply personal information like.... your email address. Oh, wait, you purposely have yours hidden. Well, still, it took a lot of courage to do what you did. Not as much courage as removing a headphone jack, but still, COURAGE!*
  *Apple patent pending
37. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 12:35 · Score: 1
  
  Umm your nick name is the first clue that paints you as a shill.
  But your nickname is the proof that you are a COWARD.
  
  And BTW, if someone wax a paid shill, they would bothe paste on a forum that actually had some influence, and would have a much mire innocuous-sounding nick.
  
  Dumbass.
38. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 13:23 · Score: 1
  
  Awesome video! Excellent, factual rebuttal of the shill that is macs4all...
  You thought that was definitive?
  
  1. Most of the things that were NOT Internet-bound were within the margin of error for humans triggering things with their fingers.
  
  2. Did the video say which version of iOS 9 they used? There was a version of iOS 9 (9.1 or 9.2?) that was specifically designed to improve performance on the 4s and iPad 2. Did they use it?
  
  3. Other than the one bit with iTunes on iOS 9 where it never displayed the thumbnails (which I think was a server-side issue), NONE of the OS versions were in ANY way "unusable".
  
  4. Since so many "tests" were Internet-based, several "tries" on each test should have been done to help negate the effects of temporary WiFi slowdowns (especially since the 4s doesn't seem to support 5 GHz).
  
  5. Since there were a number of edits in the video(s), and because this was a composite of several separate videos, in no way can this video be taken at face value.
  
  6. It simply isn't "damning", nor especially supportive of the AC's "slowdown" claims. In fact, I was fairly impressed at how even they kept the overall "responsiveness", even though almost the entire OS was replaced, framework by framework, over the course of that time.
39. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-26 13:27 · Score: 1
  
  OH YES! You're so brave for registering an account on Slashdot. I mean, you actually had to provide an email address to register. As we all know, that's not easy to do since there aren't any free email services available on the Internet that can be acquired without supplying verified credentials and identity verification. Now, everyone on Slashdot can see your deeply personal information like.... your email address. Oh, wait, you purposely have yours hidden. Well, still, it took a lot of courage to do what you did. Not as much courage as removing a headphone jack, but still, COURAGE!*
  *Apple patent pending
  Login and say that.
40. Re:How many of those... by rtb61 · 2016-09-26 14:11 · Score: 1
  
  M$ also as per their licensing agreement count multiple cores as multiple computers. So still meaningless numbers, especially as they have a history of lying, any press release with regard to sales I would only partially accept, if they were released to the SEC as made part of financial reports, in that case there is at least a legal requirement they be accurate. Other than that typical PR=B$ marketing.
  
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41. Re:How many of those... by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-26 15:14 · Score: 1
  
  And your data is... ? Nothing? Nothing at all? Hard video proof versus a mac fanboi's vapid claims?
  
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42. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 15:23 · Score: 0
  
  lol..this is pathetic. You know everyone is laughing at you right now right? You know that right??? Listen, you got called out for your bullshit. Don't fight it, just admit that you're a giant Apple cheerleader and move on. Stop digging your own grave. It's really no big deal, and it's not the end of the world. You'll be taken seriously again when you actually have a point that's not complete garbage. Here.. have a hug :)
43. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 16:42 · Score: 0
  
  I always just post as AC. Most people don't have the same trouble as you do separating the content of a post from the poster's pseudonym. You don't respond to every AC in this way, just the ones that infuriate you and you then respond as though you can't possible grok the post without a pseudonym attached. Prediction: You will do the same thing to this post.
  -ted
44. Re:How many of those... by donaldm · 2016-09-26 17:02 · Score: 1
  
  Here is a different take on the story: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3032976/microsoft-windows/there-s-something-fishy-about-those-windows-10-market-share-numbers.html
  
  I like the author's last paragraph and I quote:
  
  Me? I still rely on Linux — Mint 17.3 to be exact — for my main desktop. With it, I, and not some company, get to decide when to update and when to patch. I like having control over my desktop. If you don’t care, go and follow the Windows 10 lemmings. I’ll go my own way.
  For those of use who do use a Linux distribution as our main desktop we only need to change "Mint 17.3" to whatever distribution we are currently running and the sentence pretty much says it all.
  
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45. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 17:12 · Score: 0
  
  As this is MS, it will include anything they can stick in there without being too obvious. They need to have success with this one, so they are cheating, coercing and lying as far as they think they can go without being slapped down too hard.
  As this is MS and Slashdot this can be presented as fact without any evidence to substantiate it.
46. Re:How many of those... by donaldm · 2016-09-26 17:44 · Score: 1
  
  M$ also as per their licensing agreement count multiple cores as multiple computers. So still meaningless numbers, especially as they have a history of lying, any press release with regard to sales I would only partially accept, if they were released to the SEC as made part of financial reports, in that case there is at least a legal requirement they be accurate. Other than that typical PR=B$ marketing.
  If that is the case they must be counting each XBox1's as eight licenses per box since the machine has 8 Cores and it would be very likely that out of the 22 million XB1's most would have been switched on over the last 28 days. Not bad 160+ million computers out of say 20 million physical machines.
  
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47. Re:How many of those... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 21:00 · Score: 0
  
  A great many of us have been using Slashdot since the beginning but have never had a username. We focus more on what is written rather than who writes it. You and others want a name for yourself with the hopes of becoming revered and admired by your on-line peers. Even worse, in your quest to proselytize and troll for the Cult of Apple, you chose a name for yourself that instantly revels your zealotry. Not smart.
  Your unyielding defense of the iPhone 7 shenanigans has already tarnished the reputation you hold so dear. Hence, your time here is limited. Over the years I've seen zealots like you rise and fall time and time again much like the once infamous twitter. You'll continue to shill and troll until your account finally gets modded so low that your posts will no longer be easily noticed, and because your primarily here to be noticed you'll either create yet another account or discontinue use of this site.
48. Re:How many of those... by gweihir · 2016-09-26 22:46 · Score: 1
  
  You may have heard of the concept of a "reputation". Its value is derived from past actions and it can provide circumstantial evidence.
  But then, that idea may fly right over your head.
  
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49. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-27 03:09 · Score: 1
  
  And your data is... ? Nothing? Nothing at all? Hard video proof versus a mac fanboi's vapid claims?
  
  And your data is... ? Nothing? Nothing at all? Hard video proof versus a mac fanboi's vapid claims?
  As I said: I don't believe that is "Hard video proof" of ANYTHING, other than the OS versions are pretty close to the same, performance-wise.
  
  And of course, your "standard" is impossible for me to meet; since I cannot go backwards as far as OS installation on my personal iPhone 4s or iPad 2.
  
  Seriously, I watched the video, and it really didn't seem that different overall. And I really would have liked to see more "tests" that didn't rely so heavily on internet-speed; because the "local" operations seemed just about identical across the OS versions.
  
  And most importantly, what I DIDN'T see was a progressive slow-down across the versions. IOW, you notice they stopped putting the "1 2 3.." numbers across the top of the displays (denoting their completion-order for each "test"), because 1) There was hardly enough time to see a difference for most of the tests; 2) There was no progressive-slowdown as the OS number increased.
  
  Interesting video, though, FWIW.
  
  Now if you want to see an interesting horse-race, take a look at this video.
50. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-27 03:35 · Score: 1
  
  lol..this is pathetic. You know everyone is laughing at you right now right? You know that right??? Listen, you got called out for your bullshit. Don't fight it, just admit that you're a giant Apple cheerleader and move on. Stop digging your own grave. It's really no big deal, and it's not the end of the world. You'll be taken seriously again when you actually have a point that's not complete garbage. Here.. have a hug :)
  As I replied to LynwoodRooster, I honestly really didn't see a definitive slowdown across the OS versions in that "Definitive Proof" video. In fact, the performance was remarkably the same from iOS 5 to iOS 9.
  
  So, are you sure we were watching the same video? Because, if the performance dropped-off across the OSes, it would have been a much more confusing "horse race", as the versions got more and more "out of sync" with each "test".
51. Re:How many of those... by LynnwoodRooster · 2016-09-27 08:23 · Score: 1
  
  As I said: I don't believe that is "Hard video proof" of ANYTHING, other than the OS versions are pretty close to the same, performance-wise.
  And for anyone else who is not a dyed-in-the-wool fanboi, the differences are quite large, a factor of 3 or more in many cases. Case closed.
  
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52. Re:How many of those... by david_thornley · 2016-09-27 08:35 · Score: 1
  
  I have an Ubuntu desktop and a Windows laptop. They do different things, and I wouldn't want to get rid of either.
  
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53. Re:How many of those... by macs4all · 2016-09-27 10:30 · Score: 1
  
  And for anyone else who is not a dyed-in-the-wool fanboi, the differences are quite large, a factor of 3 or more in many cases. Case closed.
  Did we actually watch the same video? I just re-watched the video, and other than the initial boot time, and perhaps the one iTunes "test", there isn't anything that is "a factor of 3 or more" between the OSes. And even more importantly, iOS 8 seems to be the overall slowest version, which is curious; because iOS 7 seems pretty fast; so something obviously happened in iOS 8. HOWEVER, iOS 9 does beat iOS 8 in almost every case, though; so you can see the result of Apple tweaking iOS 9 to improve performance on older devices.
  
  And regardless of the exact differences between the versions, you are one spoiled little child if you call that a major slowdown across OS versions.
54. Re:How many of those... by gweilo8888 · 2016-09-27 12:49 · Score: 1
  
  No, Microsoft *says* that it is only counting those installs. Whose impartial word do we have of the truth behind these numbers? None, because the numbers are straight from Microsoft, a company which has been repeatedly caught cheating and lying for decades.
Forced adoption by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:29 · Score: 0

Is it adoption if the upgrade was forced with no option to refuse?
And how many by rossdee · 2016-09-26 05:31 · Score: 1

Are still running Win 7
1. Re:And how many by macs4all · 2016-09-26 05:36 · Score: 1
  
  Are still running Win 7
  I, for one.
2. Re:And how many by Kjella · 2016-09-26 05:49 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  And how many are still running Win 7
  Well as of last week StatCounter puts Win7 at 39.46% and Win10 at 24.33% of the desktop OS market share, of course that's not all devices running Win10. But a whole lot and after the free offer ended there's not been much migration at all. I suspect Win7 will be even harder to kill than WinXP and that wasn't easy.
  
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3. Re:And how many by A10Mechanic · 2016-09-26 06:10 · Score: 1
  
  Toral: The Duras family will one day rule the Empire! Gowron: Perhaps. But not today.
4. Re:And how many by tgrigsby · 2016-09-26 06:13 · Score: 2
  
  I've got Win7 on my main desktop machine and on a number of VMs, and there is no way in hell I'm upgrading them. Especially since the latest Windows automatic update killed my laptop over the weekend and I had to get MSI's tech support involved to get it running again (thanks guys!). Microsoft can upgrade all my machines when it can pry Win7 from my cold dead hands... bastards...
  
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5. Re:And how many by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:17 · Score: 0
  
  This is so tiresome... From 98 to XP, XP to Win 7, Win 7 to Win 10. Why don't you simply give in now and embrace Windows 10, you're going to anyway. Then some number of odd years down the road I will not have to hear the same bullshit, "I am still running Win 10, fuck Windows 10 reloaded" or whatever the they'll call it.
6. Re:And how many by RandomSurfer314 · 2016-09-26 06:31 · Score: 1
  
  Well, Win 7 works way better for me than Win 10, so why should I "give in"? I'll be forced into Win 10 when I buy a new gaming machine anyway, although I hope it's going to be Win 13 by then.
7. Re:And how many by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:42 · Score: 0
  
  Windows 10 has an impressive lead on Steam.
8. Re:And how many by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:44 · Score: 0
  
  NetMarketShare has Windows 7 at 47.25% as of mid August, up 0.24pp from the month before. Interestingly enough, it shows that over the last year Windows 7 share has actually been slowly rising, with an occasional sudden drop of a few percent every time Microsoft tries a new forced update trick, followed by a slow, steady increase again.
  Looking back at the same stats through the wayback machine, I see that when Windows 7 was released it had the same rate of conversion as Windows 10 after the first year. The difference there was that this required virtually no effort from Microsoft (compared to Windows 10 where they went to unprecedented lengths to force conversion) and 7 managed to maintain that high rate for roughly 3 years. People actually liked it and adopted it at their own volition. If a new version of Windows came out that lacked any reason not to upgrade, people would most likely flock to that one too and leave 7 in the dust.
  You know, there are a lot of places to see market share trends, but I'm really interested in some estimation on market size too, to put it in perspective.
9. Re:And how many by Barefoot+Monkey · 2016-09-26 08:44 · Score: 1
  
  Well, for the subset of Steam users who choose to participate in the survey. In principle, that group is more-or-less representative of all Steam users unless there's some correlation between avoiding the upgrade and not participating in the survey.
  I do wish Steam that would add report the sample sizes of their surveys so we can actually draw useful statistical information from them. (If they actually do report the sample sizes then I'd be grateful if somebody were to point out where)
10. Re:And how many by doomsayerxero · 2016-09-26 09:34 · Score: 1
  
  DirectX 12
  
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11. Re:And how many by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 11:19 · Score: 0
  
  I'm not even sure that I believe the 400M number. Has MS accurately reduced the count for computers that updated to Win10 and than ran screaming back to Win7? I have 3 computers that tried Win10 and then promptly went back to Win7. I know that I am not alone as there were lots of people who woke up to find Win10 had been installed on their computers without they knowledge (that ol' "Win10 is now a "recommended" update - isn't that sweet of us?" trick). I know that many of those people rolled back to Win7 as well.
  Win7 was really where MS should have stopped. It did everything that one needed it to do and it was stable. MS should have simply put Win7 into perpetual maintenance mode and charged people $29.99 a year to keep getting updates. No more incompatible software or hardware updates required to keep one's system up-to-date (Win10 was incompatible with a bunch of Win7 software and I personally have hardware that worked just fine under Win7 that is not supported under Win10 - including my Canon printer).
12. Re:And how many by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 11:59 · Score: 0
  
  I take it you're not a Steam user. Participation is the survey is ridiculously easy. A small window pops up and asks if you're like to participate. The survey is completely automated and takes less than 5 seconds after hitting "OK."
13. Re:And how many by wkwilley2 · 2016-09-26 20:25 · Score: 1
  
  As others have said, XP is no-where near dead, and that was with Windows 7 being the shiny new alternative.
  Windows 7 will be several factors harder to kill than XP due to the platform's stability (no thanks in part to M$'s recent efforts), it's huge market share, and the ubiquitous hatred of Win10.
  
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14. Re:And how many by Barefoot+Monkey · 2016-09-27 23:52 · Score: 1
  
  I take it you didn't even read the post you're replying to.
A quick breakdown by ausekilis · 2016-09-26 05:31 · Score: 2

6 million Surface tablets, ~20 million XBox Ones, ~20 million Windows Phones (I thought that would be more like 20 total). That means a majority is desktop/laptop sales and "free upgrades".

The strange part is the 200 million in 6 months. I'm not entirely sure how that was done, nor do i have the time to really dig into it. Maybe ATM's and POS registers have been upgraded?
1. Re:A quick breakdown by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:36 · Score: 0
  
  Probably from all the aggressive "adoption" tactics employed in tricking and forcing users to update...
2. Re:A quick breakdown by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:39 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Free Azure virtual machines being handed out like candy to keep customers from Linux might help. There is probably some fine print in there allowing these to be counted.
3. Re:A quick breakdown by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:40 · Score: 0
  
  How is that strange? Microsoft forced all Win 7/8 computers to upgrade.
  Also, they're probably counting unused purchased licenses, like when a company buy 5000 licenses in bulk, but only has them on 2000 computers.
4. Re:A quick breakdown by tsqr · 2016-09-26 05:51 · Score: 1
  
  How is that strange? Microsoft forced all Win 7/8 computers to upgrade.
  I have a couple of computers that disagree. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of others as well.
5. Re:A quick breakdown by D00MSlayer · 2016-09-26 06:04 · Score: 1
  
  Not ALL of them were forced, but there was a span of a month or two where the upgrade to Windows 10 made it difficult to prevent it.
  Also, if you had Windows 7 ultimate(such as myself), you were ignored by the Windows 10 upgrade completely.
  More curious would be the number of systems that rolled back after the brute-force upgrade
6. Re:A quick breakdown by tgrigsby · 2016-09-26 06:16 · Score: 1
  
  As someone who makes and customizes retail software, I can tell you that existing POS registers will NEVER upgrade from XP. That's right, XP. Not even Windows 7. And the reason is because it just works, and the hardware requirements are so low. New ones coming out will likely have a stripped down version of 10 for retail, but there's no such animal as "upgrading POS registers to Windows 10".
  
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7. Re:A quick breakdown by Lampman31415 · 2016-09-26 06:59 · Score: 1
  
  ... Maybe ATM's and POS registers have been upgraded?
  They are all gonna be a real POS now!
8. Re:A quick breakdown by Dracos · 2016-09-26 07:06 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe ATM's and POS registers have been upgraded?
  Doubtful at this point. Many of those vendors are being targeted with Win10 IoT, which hasn't been available long enough for new systems to be developed and deployed. In 6 to 12 months we'll start to see all the old XP-based POS, ATM, and other kiosk solutions get replaced with RaspberryPi + Win10 IoT, which is the intended market of the OS (well, Universal App bootloader), not hobbyists.
9. Re:A quick breakdown by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:08 · Score: 0
  
  Maybe ATM's and POS registers have been upgraded?
  I must be a filthy guy, but I read that as ass-to-mouth and piece-of-shit registers. Both would be appropriate though I think.
10. Re:A quick breakdown by Darinbob · 2016-09-26 07:35 · Score: 1
  
  XBox One runs Windows 10??
11. Re:A quick breakdown by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:39 · Score: 0
  
  I can't accept 20m Windows Phones running Windows 10. 1) That number would most likely be every phone that ran any version of Windows phone from Day 1; and 2) most Windows Phones that are more the a year old won't run Windows 10.
  OTOH, I recently found (daughter got one) a very cheap (competitive with Android) table with keyboard running Win10. It actually works pretty well. May consider getting one, though as with other W10 portable stuff the availability of common apps is minimal.
Clippy says... by xxxJonBoyxxx · 2016-09-26 05:33 · Score: 3, Funny

Somewhere in an Italian restaurant, Clippy smiles at the 400M copies of Cortana and thinks "revenge is a dish best served cold."
1. Re:Clippy says... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:48 · Score: 0
  
  You mean "best served half-assed", which is the inevitable outcome of a "personal assistant" program.
2. Re:Clippy says... by spire3661 · 2016-09-26 05:51 · Score: 1
  
  Clippy is alive and stronger than ever. Google decided that darkening your phone screen to make sure you see some new feature was a good idea.
  
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3. Re:Clippy says... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:43 · Score: 0
  
  Clippy = Durandal
  Live in pfhor... err... fear.
4. Re:Clippy says... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 11:20 · Score: 0
  
  Cortana is Clippy with boobs and a blow job https://www.primeinspiration.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/cortana-2.jpg
Much lower rate? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:40 · Score: 0

Not sure I would classify 50 million/3 months (16.6667 million per month) as much lower than 17 million per month.
1. Re:Much lower rate? by Gr8Apes · 2016-09-26 05:44 · Score: 1
  
  Not sure I would classify 50 million/3 months (16.6667 million per month) as much lower than 17 million per month.
  It is much lower than 29 million a month. Reading comprehension helps in discussions.
  
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Emperor Nadella says: by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:40 · Score: 0

Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Microsoft Botnet!
1. Re:Emperor Nadella says: by xxxJonBoyxxx · 2016-09-26 06:01 · Score: 1
  
  >> witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Microsoft Botnet
  
  Krebs, is that you? :)
Still off Windows 10 by ADRA · 2016-09-26 05:41 · Score: 1

Thank god! (and I'm not even religious!)

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Bye!
1. Re:Still off Windows 10 by Black+Parrot · 2016-09-26 06:23 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Thank god! (and I'm not even religious!)
  Everyone is religious when it comes to operating systems.
  
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2. Re:Still off Windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:43 · Score: 0
  
  Praise teh lored jebus!
3. Re:Still off Windows 10 by WallyL · 2016-09-27 01:09 · Score: 1
  
  As long as there is Microsoft, there will be prayer in computing!
4. Re:Still off Windows 10 by david_thornley · 2016-09-27 08:37 · Score: 1
  
  W10 is flaky but mostly usable.
  
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Well, by no-body · 2016-09-26 05:48 · Score: 1

one of the x million claimed users has W10 silently sleeping on a HD somewhere laying around on the floor waiting to be used at one point, when I get around....
Got more important stuff to do.
Ah - when I try again and plug on the disk, network cable is unplugged and there is somewhere a printout of this:
http://www.howtogeek.com/22386...
which I have to read in more detail...
Just rename windows 8 ... by Maxwell · 2016-09-26 05:49 · Score: 2, Interesting

So they are calling the Xbox version of "Windows 10" the same as the phone version of "Windows 10" the same as the Surface RT version of "Windows 10"? Even though they have different interfaces, requirements, CPU's etc? Why not just rename Windows 8 and Windows 7 to " Windows 10"? They could leap another 100M+ devices that way. The delta between 8.1 and 10 can't be any great than that between Mobile and xboxone, right? rename hotmail to "Windows 10" to, pick up another 100M users there. They can hit a Billion quickly if they just rebrand everything "Window 10". It's been done before. MSN, Live, Windows10.
1. Re:Just rename windows 8 ... by D00MSlayer · 2016-09-26 06:15 · Score: 1
  
  Surface RT version of "Windows 10"
  There isn't a windows 10 version of RT, though. All they did was put in an update that inserted a half-assed windows 10 look-a-like menu into RT 8.1.
  They abandoned Windows RT after the Surface 2 came out, and before Windows 10 was released.
  Also the Xbox One does in fact have a true version of Windows 10, as well as the phone. The 10 OS was designed to be multi-platform, or what they call "Continuum," in that they can have the same OS and the same experience across console, phone and PC, all with the same code and UI.
  So it's not really just a rebranding, but it's a true OS conversion.
2. Re:Just rename windows 8 ... by bad-badtz-maru · 2016-09-26 07:21 · Score: 1
  
  Continuum isn't a cross-compiler, MS bet the mobile farm on Intel producing mobile chipsets. MS can't target ARM for crap, that's why they dropped RT and is also why they're now screwed in mobile.
3. Re:Just rename windows 8 ... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:53 · Score: 0
  
  Thats what neck beards seem to be doing by calling android as "linux". I don't see you replying to them.
4. Re:Just rename windows 8 ... by im_thatoneguy · 2016-09-26 09:06 · Score: 1
  
  They all run on the exact same kernel and have the same WinRT runtime. The only difference is ARM vs x86 compiler. They're as similar as Ubuntu for ARM and ubuntu for x86.
  Xbox is a bit of a unique case in that it run's AAA titles in a stripped down VM and apps in another VM. But the Apps VM is effectively Windows 10 Desktop but with a different explorer.exe
  Windows 10 Mobile isn't running something like WinRT Mobile, like Windows Mobile 6 ran .NET Mobile it's a full WinRT.NET implementation with the full API surface as the Desktop version. The only real difference between Mobile and Desktop is it lacks Win32 and has a different explorer.exe as well. In fact in a few beta builds the mouse cursor would inadvertantly pop up. And if you turn up the DPI sufficiently apps will think they're running on desktop and switch over to the Desktop UI.
microsoft shouldnt even by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:49 · Score: 0

know how many are "active" in the last 28 days.
period.
quit the fucking spying already.
VM Copies by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 05:52 · Score: 0

I wonder if they count VM copies.
Just run it inside a VM, where it can't do much damage.
I have my desktop background set to "NO PERSONAL INFORMATION -- CONTAMINATED MACHINE" to remind me not to use it for anything critical.
The virtual network cable is unplugged, and it only sees the files I need it to see.
It does run the odd game, with qemu virtualization pass-through of the video drivers, it even runs doom 2016 nicely.
For run, I keep the Windows 7 VM around, let MSFT update it, restore, rinse, reboot, and start the cycle over again, every month, just for fun. My bandwidth is uncapped, I just like to cause MSFT a bit of trouble, and eat their bandwidth, because I can.
1. Re:VM Copies by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:07 · Score: 0
  
  Wow. Just... wow. I think I hear your mom calling you to come upstairs; it must be dinner time.
2. Re:VM Copies by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:26 · Score: 0
  
  His Mom is all alone upstairs, sitting quietly, endlessly, in a chair...
Seriously, *only* 400 million? by QuietLagoon · 2016-09-26 05:58 · Score: 2

...Microsoft added that this 400 million active devices figure include tablets and phones as well as Xbox One consoles, HoloLens, and Surface Hubs running Windows 10. Paul Thurrott adds:...
After a year of lambasting users to upgrade, at times trying to trick and mislead users into upgrading, 400 million devices, which includes tablets and phones as well as Xbox One consoles, is all that Windows 10 has garnered so far?
.
Instead of issuing a press release, Microsoft should be hanging its head in shame.
Massive distributed Botnet in 3 .. 2 .. 1 .. NOW! by aralin · 2016-09-26 05:59 · Score: 0

Security is Microsoft number one priority! They make it their priority to have no security!

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Yeah? But how many by deliberate CHOICE? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:01 · Score: 0

"We've successfully forced 400 MILLION of our customers into our mandatory data-mining implementation! Who will be first to buy us drinks?"
How many Inactive Devices? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:02 · Score: 0

You know, the one's you bricked?
I wonder... by denisbergeron · 2016-09-26 06:04 · Score: 1

If mine that i use once a month to install update is considered active?

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How many are dual boot? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:08 · Score: 0

Sure we have Windows 10 installed on three desktops, but they're also dual boot with Ubuntu Linux. The only time we boot into Windows is for gaming, all other uses are booted into Linux. When the rest of the Steam games library is available in Linux, goodbye Windows partition.
Ms makes recovery difficult by default too by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:15 · Score: 0

See what I ran into on that note regarding using System Restore Points https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9693719&cid=52949651/
* They do NOT by default let users (let alone non-admin ones) access them for quick fixes vs. malware as shown in that link above!
APK
P.S.=> Hate to say it but between THAT above & this "telemetry" bs? MS is DROPPING THE BALL badly... apk
Reading it wrong by tgrigsby · 2016-09-26 06:18 · Score: 3, Interesting

You guys are reading this wrong. This isn't a, "Wow, Windows 10 is so cool," article, this is a, "Wow, Microsoft has managed to force more people to upgrade faster than they did going from XP to Windows 7." And in that regard, yes, Microsoft has mastered that one aspect of the game much better than they did in the past.

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1. Re:Reading it wrong by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:57 · Score: 0
  
  The XP -> 7 transition usually required new hardware
The 200 million was from... by gatfirls · 2016-09-26 06:18 · Score: 1

The upgrade nag changed from "hit the x, and it stops the nag", to "hit the x and windows upgrade remains scheduled" so you wake up a few days later and windows 10 is installed.
I consider myself a hawk about those things and got caught by it, 100% not wanting to upgrade.
Yeah, well... by willoughby · 2016-09-26 06:28 · Score: 1

UPS is to deliver a machine this afternoon w/Win10 installed. I have my Debian install media right here, so I'm all set.
1. Re:Yeah, well... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:59 · Score: 0
  
  Is Debian still a thing, I thought it kind of became a redhat derivative and lost most of it's user base, go figure.
2. Re:Yeah, well... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:05 · Score: 0
  
  It would still only ever count as a Windows 10 sales figure
3. Re:Yeah, well... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:26 · Score: 1
  
  Still counts as a Win10 license sold.
  So does every OEM PC with a preinstalled Win7 or 8.1 Pro now. OEMs are forced to use "Win10 Pro with downgrade rights" licenses, which get counted - you guessed it - as a Win10 sale.
4. Re:Yeah, well... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:53 · Score: 0
  
  Is Debian still a thing, I thought it kind of became a redhat derivative and lost most of it's user base, go figure.
  Debian has never been 'a thing', it's the thing.
Just the same by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:31 · Score: 0

400,000,000 instances of crap is still just a big pile of shit.
Ya..no by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:33 · Score: 0

There's a billion other options I'd resort to before considering Windows 10.... If extended support is not pushed back @ 2020, lite it was for XP, I'd rather jump ship entirely and move to Linux, despite the major lack of commercial products. They boast about their numbers of adoption, but these are HIGHLY inaccurate considering many many people had no say at all in the matter, I can't imagine leaving my PC at night and waking up the next morning to a new Windows. Tile interface looks unprofessional and is a complete clusterfuck, one that can't even be disabled; 'Metro' ought to be called 'Homo', there was absolutely nothing wrong with Windows 7's layout, why the obsession at trying to fix something that's not broken....
Windows 10 = load of bollocks
And I am not among the counted. by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 06:47 · Score: 0

Not now, not ever.
an infection is as an infection does by epine · 2016-09-26 07:03 · Score: 1

Despite the brass ring TOS of whatever version you were previously running, an infection is as an infection does.
Also, read your antibiotic prescription carefully.
* may include systemd[**]
[**] First we keep Berlin, then we take Warsaw, someday soon we annex Prague, and eventually perhaps we'll incite the Arabs to cut Manhattan down to size.
All hail PC-BSD: the systemd-free libertarian antibiotic of last resort.
1. Re:an infection is as an infection does by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 10:49 · Score: 0
  
  Don't you mean TrueOS?
Windows 10 Now On 400 Million Active Devices, Says by Oswald+McWeany · 2016-09-26 07:13 · Score: 1

"Windows 10 Now On 400 Million Active Devices, Says Microsoft (thurrott.com) "
Shouldn't that be: Windows 10 Now on 400 Million "previously active" devices.

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msmash by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:20 · Score: 0

nobody gives a shit. why do you assholes keep posting crap?
"Active" Devices by ControlsGeek · 2016-09-26 07:43 · Score: 1

All those devices are very active downloading updates and crap from Microsoft.
stockholders!..stockholders!..stockholders! by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 07:52 · Score: 0

stockholders!..stockholders!..stockholders!
The medical based business I work for... by fallen1 · 2016-09-26 08:04 · Score: 1

deliberately buys refurbished laptops and desktops with Windows 7 Professional on them, or buys new PCs with 8.1 Pro and downgrade rights.
We will never willingly move from 7 Professional due to the massive violation of HIPAA, Sarbanes-Oxley, and other laws that Windows 10 is both accused of AND has been verified doing. Seriously, I doubt you see any major hospital or other medical profession make the move to 10 -- willingly at any rate.
Yes, eventually, we may have to move to Windows 10 but I am hoping that day is sometime in the year 2020 when I (probably) won't be in charge of Information Services and Technology for the company.

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Live as if you'll die tomorrow.
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1. Re:The medical based business I work for... by Oswald+McWeany · 2016-09-26 08:09 · Score: 1
  
  Year of the Linux Hospital Desktop.
  
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2. Re:The medical based business I work for... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 11:39 · Score: 0
  
  The Second Coming of Christ. Just as ridiculous, but far more likely.
The Microsoft Botnet wants You by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:30 · Score: 0

Join the collective.. we will assimilate your bank account.
400 million flies cannot be wrong: by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:34 · Score: 0

Shit tastes good!
Re:Massive distributed Botnet in 3 .. 2 .. 1 .. NO by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:42 · Score: 0

You cannot compare Windows 10 to a botnet. Botnet operators don't care about legality and will not ask you to click "I agree" to a contract transfering control over your computer resources and security and personal data to the botnet operator while not accepting any legal responsibility for the resulting damage.
how many of those were voluntary Installs? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 08:47 · Score: 0

;)
what exactly does "active" mean? by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 09:17 · Score: 0

So does Microsoft count all Windows 10 devices? Including Xbox One, Windows 10 phones, plus the PC's activated with Windows 10. So what happens if someone activates Windows 10 and then goes back to a previous version? Is that activation then counted as a minus? No, it couldn't because once a device is activated you can install Windows 10 anytime. It's obvious though that adoption has dramatically slowed after the free offer period has ended. Besides doing very little to improve PC sales.
99% of all Windows 10 users... by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 10:02 · Score: 0

are unwilling participants.
The remaining 1% are bots.
400 million less N (for N1) by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 10:59 · Score: 0

I wonder how many forced installs have been replaced by something else - reverting to Win7 from the rare install media out there, or Linux. I know I have some of those to my name. N is a rapidly growing number...
MicroSoft seem to be having all kinds of problems left, right and center. Their Bing bots (far as I can tell) are knocking daily at my website door, instead of every 14 days as specified in the meta tags, etc. [joker]Why so curious?[/joker]
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Fuck Widows 10.. Fuck Microsoft.. by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 11:27 · Score: 0

Fuck Widows 10.. Fuck Microsoft..
Enough said really. Stick your Stasi spyware and your cloud right up your fucking arse.
Edge Browser by AnnonUSA · 2016-09-26 11:33 · Score: 0

In addition, 4 people are actually using the Edge Browser...
I hate windows 10 by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 12:06 · Score: 0

it sucks
blah blah blah by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 12:07 · Score: 0

I'm gonna have to switch to windows 10 if I'm gonna continue using MS products. I reinstalled Windows 7 from scratch yesterday and after updating to sp1 I continued patching the system with the rest of the 247 patches but it took 10 hours to install. After restarting the machine Windows 7 started the patch configuration and it failed so it had to revert everything back but I stopped it after 2 hours of not doing anything. It was about 3 month's ago that I reinstalled Windows 7 and the whole process including all the patches took no more than 4 hours and never got a patching configuration failure. My system started running sluggish 3 moth's ago after using ccleaner and combofix.
Either MS has bad patches or they are sabotaging the update process.
Flamebait by ChrisMaple · 2016-09-26 12:31 · Score: 1

Slashdot items on Windows OS are flamebait. Find something useful.

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...and that wasn't easy by snikulin · 2016-09-26 12:58 · Score: 1

Win XP is still alive. I saw it just yesterday in an NPO I did community services for (I got 10 hours for shooting model rockets with my kids in a CA county park).
28 days = active? by jezwel · 2016-09-26 13:00 · Score: 1

So can I use that 28 day timeframe when performing an enterprise agreement true-up on device numbers? 'Cause last time we were audited, every x86 device since the dawn of time was included, and I needed to justify the removal of every single device that had been disposed off or removed from production.
400 million minus one by cooperaaaron · 2016-09-26 14:34 · Score: 1

Just wiped out one install for Linux...
Fuck win10 by Anonymous Coward · 2016-09-26 17:22 · Score: 0

And Fuck Micorosoft. What a piece of shit this os is. Really, it is. Almost no-one likes it. My ultra gaming rig has over the last year become increasingly unstable especially coupled with nVidia. All it does is play games, period. And it is beginning to crawl. What a joke.
I want windows 8.1 back. Really. I never thought I'd say that coming from earlier versions.
Re:Windows 10 Now On 400 Million Active Devices, S by ickpoo · 2016-09-26 17:50 · Score: 1

I'm actually curious as to what their definition of active is. I have a Windows 10 / Android hybrid tablet. It pretty much just run Android, but, I have booted it into Windows a couple of times and have even let it apply the anniversary update. But, this machine is really only being used when it is running Android. So, how is it counted?

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