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US Believes Hackers Are Shielded By Russia To Hide Its Role In Cyberintrusions: WSJ (newsmax.com)
According to a report from The Wall Street Journal (Warining: may be paywalled), U.S. officials are all but certain that the hacker Guccifer 2.0, who hacked the Democratic National Committee in June, is connected to a network of individuals and groups who are being shielded by the Russian government to mask its involvement in cyberintrusions. Even though the hacker denies working for the Russian government, the hacker is thought to be working with the hacking groups Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, which have ties to the Russian government. The Wall Street Journal reports: Following successful breaches, the stolen data are apparently transferred to three different websites for publication, these people say. The websites -- WikiLeaks, DCLeaks.com and a blog run by Guccifer 2.0 -- have posted batches of stolen data at least 42 times from April to last week. Cybersecurity experts believe that DCLeaks.com and Guccifer 2.0 often work together and have direct ties to Russian hackers. Guccifer 2.0 said in a Twitter direct message sent to The Wall Street Journal that he wants to expose corruption in politics and shine light on how companies influence policy. The hacker said he also hopes to expose "global electronization." "I think I won't have a better opportunity to promote my ideas than this year," Guccifer 2.0 added in a long exchange with a Journal reporter. The Journal cannot verify the identity of the person sending messages on behalf of Guccifer 2.0, but the account is the same one that was used to publish personal information about Democrats. A posting on a blog run by Guccifer 2.0 says he is a man who was born in Eastern Europe, has been a hacker for years and fears for his safety. "I think u've never felt that feeling when u r crazy eager to shout: look everyone, this is me, this is me who'd done it," the hacker wrote to the Journal. "but u can't." WikiLeaks officials didn't respond to requests for comment on whether Russia fed them the stolen files published by WikiLeaks in July. A representative for DCLeaks.com asked the Journal to submit questions via email but hasn't responded to them. Last week, U.S. intelligence chielf James Clapper said it "shouldn't come as a big shock to people" that Russia is behind the hacking operation. While Russia has tried to interfere in U.S. elections since at least the 1960s by spying and funneling money to particular political groups, "I think it's more dramatic maybe because now they have the cyber tools," he said.
Doesn't matter who is doing the hacking, what matters is how serious the USA takes with it's security measures to protect computers/devices from being hacked to begin with. And to be quite honest, the USA Government doesn't take it's computer security serious at all. That you can tell from letting Clinton off with her mismanagement of her server and the fact that our Government wants back doors in everything even though they keep being told that is how you get hacked.
Let's not even get into the encryption bullshit.
Be seeing you...
Nothing but PR=B$, news at eleven all citizens of a country have ties to their government. They have ties to the government at Federal level, ties to the government at state level and ties to their government at municipal level. Look a whole article about immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... So US spies have immunity when they break other countries laws and are safe from extradition, not just computer crimes but even rape and mass murder and no matter how public those crimes have been those American criminals are still be protected. Even an entire war based on lies, the criminals behind that, are still being protected, hence the desperate bid to corruptly elect another guaranteed not to prosecute high crimes, criminal is being elected. Remember those hacking stories about hacking of state electoral roles and patches to security, now were those patches to fix or to break security and is the electronic fix in. I'd bet a substantial amount of the Russian hacking is actually the CIA and it's private for profit contractors pretending to be Russian, keeps the NSA and FBI off the backs and drives more CIA contractor revenue (NATO command is screwing about in there as well, separate from the US government, collusion between US/UK/German/French corrupt players).
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
We are cyber!
- and many other amazing tales that they are taught.
Given that Clapper directly lied to Congress before, how can anyone accept anything he says at face value now?
It seems that in the U.S. everything is being blamed on Russia right now, and U.S. media consistently fails to mention all of the aggressive actions that the U.S. is performing against Russia. So Russia may or may not be behind some of the things that have been happening, but you definitely can't trust the U.S. government to tell the truth about things they know let alone the things that are really just speculation.
So, I think a lesson must be taught to Russia:
That interfering with the voting processes of a democracy is close to a declaration of war. (and no Mr. Trump I don't think, and neither do the various three letter agencies, think that the hacking of the DNC and voting machines was done by a 400 lb. woman sitting in her basement).
I am hoping that the tens of billions of dollars spent yearly on the NSA and it's being the largest supercomputer and employer of mathematicians in the world hasn't been to waste. I'm hoping that the fact that Americans (or their close allies) having INVENTED and OWNING most of the basic technologies that run our technological world (the internet, Microsoft OS, Mac OS, Android, iOS, Facebook, Google, Twitter, SAP, Amazon, Cisco, Intel, AMD, ARM, MS Office, Exchange, telephone switching networks. trans-oceanic cable companies) gives the American security agencies an incredible advantage when it comes to planting backdoors/exploiting vulnerabilities that other nations don't have. That's not to mention American establishment (and control?) of some of the key financial networks which govern them movement of money around the world.
So I'm hoping that in no uncertain terms the U.S. is sending/has sent a clear warning to Putin and his barbaric regime. Perhaps some of his overseas banking account just "disappears". Perhaps some of his most intimate e-mails (or even recorded telephone calls) are sent to his (few remaining) opponents. Otherwise I'll begin to think that the U.S.is just a overpaid, bloated, toothless cyber-tiger. Unfortunately, the only way us average citizens will probably ever know if our government has hit back effectively is if the Russian attacks cease. Then we'll know they got the message.
I hope we send it.
So the mainstream press really never did come up with a way to spin the DNC Leaks.
They've repeatedly shown they had NO answer except to try to ignore the real story (like with Snowden), and pretend that the source of the info is more important than the fact that the DNC was nothing but a branch of Hillary's campaign, colluding to push Bernie to the side at all costs.
It appears as if the US government does not understand the use of proxies in spite of several from Fort Mead, Maryland. Many, many proxies are for sale and rent in Russia. A Russian proxy does not mean a Russian actor.
"US Believes Hackers Are Shielded By Russia "
Well duh, it's obviously Snowden. Sheesh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
The same James Clapper that lied under oath about NSA spying and has this fancy website http://www.hasjamesclapperbeen....
... makes it sound really scary.
Sure it matters. If it's just some random Russian geek hacker, and the KGB simply sniff her traffic to gain their DNC intel, then I'm pretty sure that is what the NSA defines as "Hunky Dory 7th party collection" or something like that. Whereas if it was a KGB agent doing the hacking, then that is 1st or 2nd party data collection, which would obviously be illegal, immoral, and wrong.
This is why I run an IP filter list that includes all of Russia and most of Ukraine on the sites that I manage. Sure there are a couple of honest Russians that just want some information, but 99% of their traffic is attacks.
When 90+% of an entire nation is hack attempts and attacks, it's just easier and better for me and my clients to deny them access.
Since we're hating on Russia again, are the gays off the list? Can we allow them to get married and live in peace?
--- Keep the choice with the user..
What was said:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07... (July 27, 2016)
""Perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be an interesting moment some people may have egg on their faces."
That sounds like the classic US insider going to the press. The Pentagon Papers, Watergate, a person with information going to the media who can give a lot of information due to their access.
Now the media is pushing ever more about some nation who can access data, look over the data, stay in a distant network, get the data in plain text, move the data out and not get caught.
Once US security experts look over the vast amounts of litter left on the network its some "Bear" code they all know about and tell the press about.
The code and method of access is so well understood that easy to find logs, code, ip details go to the waiting press.
The same very early private sector security experts talking points to the media then get picked up by gov and other media and reported as some long term gov investigation...
The origins of what was found and how it was traced become forgotten only that an existing well understood method was left to be found.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Does it make democrats any good?
This is also why I run an IP filter list that blocks all of Russia and most of Ukraine from every site I maintain. 99.9% of their traffic is hack attempts and attacks. If 95+% of a nation's users are up to no good, then it is in my and my client's best interest to ban the entire nation. Nothing personal, and nothing against the Russian people, but 99.9% of their internet traffic is shit.
It doesn't matter that Russia wants to "interfere" with our elections. What matters is how they go about it. If they go about it by dumping what is actually going on- the hidden truth- who could argue against that?
Given the highly political nature of the topics, and the fact that there's a lot to be gained by blaming a state actor instead of discussing the improprieties and casual ethical violations disclosed... well, even if it isn't the Bear-pair behind it, there would be plenty of people claiming that it was for personal and political advancement.
Yahoo: It's not our fault that our security sucked, and that we didn't tell anyone about it for two years. The Ruskies did it!
DNC: It's not our fault that we got caught rigging primaries - the Ruskies did it! It's not our fault that Hillary's poll results suck - the Ruskies did it!
Everybody together now: "It's not our fault - the Ruskies did it!"
Can we put that to music? Seriously, this is ridiculous. Even if it were true (which I doubt), it's still ridiculous.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
To be fair, only dumbass democrats believe anything of the sort. It is politically convenient to whip up some foreign boogeyman than to focus on more disturbing questions here at home, such as how such a failed politician as Hillary Clinton is the best their party has to offer.
You know this is karma going back at you for screwing up with other people's governments to the point of causing massive social unrest and socio-economic tragedies, don't you? Just because what the Russians are doing isn't right (it *isn't*), doesn't mean the USA doesn't deserve it in spades for doing it to others first in the first place.
Deal with it. Your election candidates are no less corrupt than anyone else's, and it is mighty fun when all their shit gets thrown around in the public to the point that it destabilizes the entire country... NOT! By now, it doesn't matter who wins the elections, the rest of the world is not going to trust them to be anything short of the sleaze-bags they really are, and take appropriate action. I expect a lot of business to migrate out of the USA (and the UK) in the next years. Not to China, since they are known to be just as corrupt, self-centered and otherwise pathological to the environment as the USA. Nor to Russia, you don't trust a country run by ex-mafia anymore than you trust one run by either saner warlords, or insaner warmongers.
A good shake-up might even save you people in the long run, as it will decrease the amount of generic anti-american hate you have collected worldwide over the last two centuries should it manage to cause you people to develop even a bit of a sense of empathy towards the others you would otherwise hassle into chaos for a little economic gain by a few of your elites.
Whatever. I will sit back, and watch. And I won't do it with a smile either, because not only I know what it means to live through this kind of crap and the human decency in me can't really appreciate it happening to anyone else even when they deserve it in spades, I also have to fear the consequences of whatever crap you idiots manage to do to in your next government, since it *always* come back to bite the rest of humanity in short order... and it looks like this time the bunch of imbeciles that makes up the majority of your voting population (again, nothing different from the rest of the world, as brexit did show) could well manage to give a major push to right-wing *extremists* world-wide and get us into a nuke-happy conflict in a few decades down the line.
and they have done more damage than anyone else. So what is different? Well here's one important difference: NSA and its intrusions and damage to foreign countries have been definitely proven, but the worn-out old stories of Russian hackers are and have only ever been accusations, made by none other than the U.S.
I am a US citizen, so I'm entitled to criticize my own government.
Quite frankly we've been messing in Eastern European elections for some time, expanding NATO to completely surround Russia, meddling with Russian opposition parties, etc. This hacker stuff is backlash. While the US should beef up it's cyber security to ensure this doesn't happen, at the same time I can't help feeling the Russian government is entitled to fire back with what they can as the US plays hardball in the Russians' backyard too.
SHIELDED now means --- any country that merely contains an Internet framework consisting of just-routers and just-links that is designed to let their population access the Internet in the most basic, streamlined and packet-passing manner possible.
Like the United States used to be before consortium ISPs started intercepting traffic, building certain 'features' into their NAT boxes, installing FBI compliance platforms. Before the NSA started installing its split-to-dark-fiber taps and 'capture and forward' rooms at and between tier 1 providers, Charter be damned.
Russia is not shielding anybody, it just lacks that Big Brother framework.
Internet, the way it used to be.
Because Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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It's interesting to see so many messages defending Russian meddling on ./ early in the morning before the US wakes up.
It seems to the MO these days on the Internet. China, Russia, etc. are doing overt and covert campaigns while the US and the West are doing SIGINT. Both are just as bad for the average man or woman.
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and it's churning out another Cold War. I'm not saying the story isn't true; I'm saying that with all the similar news we've been hearing recently, a new Cold War is being created and sold to the world. After all, the last one was immensely profitable, and built many lucrative careers on both sides. There are still many old spooks and military people hanging around, longing for the good old days and salivating over a second chance; and there are many younger, heartless, cynical pricks willing to cash in on all that angst and fear, and on the 'need' for 'security'. War, (cold or otherwise), is good for (big) business.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
As opposed to US backed hackers *cough* NSA *cough* who are sloppy enough to leave their hacking toolkit behind ?
They hack us, we hack them. It's the reality of things. Get over it.
Instead of finger pointing, maybe we should work to secure those systems that are vulnerable insteading of hoarding bugs and hacks to use.
If you're not going to bother letting the vendors know about vulnerabilities in their systems, then it's silly to feign surprise when they get compromised.
The U.S. Government has no credibility with regards to security. Its M.O. is to do stupid stuff, then to blame the messenger who tells the world just how incompetent our federal government really is. Even if, against all odds, our government is correct this one time, it is factually wrong so many times as to mask the one time it may (or may not) be right.
Trump insisted there was no evidence to that fact and that, surely, it could be a 400-lb hacker sitting in his parents' house or even Trump's 10-year-old son!
I wonder who he will appoint to the Ministry of Truth.
Snowden exposed US as a country that hacks everything and everyone, foreign and domestic, including its own allies, and now this same US is crying about other people hacking it? LOL
Cry me a river.
we wouldn't need Russian hackers.
just delete the cookies to get around the paywall...
nothing to see here - move along
Something goes wrong with a computer? Russians behind it
Someone points out that Russians probably arent behind it? They are a Russian
Stub your toe? Russians did it
Its a joke, the media cant comprehend the idea of leasing a server in a Foreign country and must assume that everyone hacks from their own IP address at home.
Stopped reading at "WSJ", epitome of journalism ethics..
It's got to the point where you should read main stream media news Soviet style to understand what is really happening here.
Suuurrrree...... Like they believed that Iraq had yellow cake uranium and Iran was building nuclear weapons. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that the Russians (just like the US, China, etc) are engaged in cyberintrusions. But the fact of the matter is that they're all doing it, its a little like one crooked politician shouting "LOOK OVER THERE, HE'S STUFFING A BALLOT BOX!" while the hand behind his back is also feeding fake ballots into another box.
speakng of govt , HI from the guy in the UHA whom bush later after 9/11 then said " OK hackers arent terrorist but can you uh uh uhuhuhuh leave the taliban website alone" , i have this to say GO FFFFFFuuuucccckkkkk yourselves stupid stupid fuckwit govt of the usa
That's why this is news. Because we NEED to wall off BAD ACTORS and ROUGE STATES from the internet.
NEED it.
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Every few days; DNC leaks are Russia!
Whatever. More MSM bullshit; muddy the water on behalf of Clinton.
Agreed.
Countries like US, Russia, China, UK lecturing about government hacking is a joke. All these countries, in particular the US and UK, violate the world's right to privacy. There used to be a time when we used to condemn communists and fascist for behaving like this around privacy. Now its politicians with names like Bush, Obama, and Cameron.
In geopolitics every government hacks every other government and corporation, friend or foe. There are no exceptions. Also, in the news, water is wet.
the russians need me.....dont ask but i know all the worlds honey pots , all the "elite proxies" hat really do not log.....
the fact is i am not arab , russian , nor american , the question then is WHAT COUNTRY AM I FROM?
The DNC leak taught the DNC and the Obama administration a lesson. They tried to ignore it, but a couple higher-ups actually apologized for their participation, ruining any chance they might have to later deny the content of the emails was authentic.
So now they are getting out in front of the next leak. They are discrediting it by planting the story that the Russians did it, and the Russians might alter or fabricate documents.
We don't know what it will be, but we know it was those damned commies.
Go back to your entertainment, citizen. Nothing to see here.
On a separate rant, why does the English language suddenly hate the hyphen?
Cyberintrusions... it looks like a German word.
No sig for you! Come back one year!
The DNC is shielded by "Russia" to hide its own wrongdoing.