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Microsoft Bungles This Week's Windows 10 Anniversary Update (zdnet.com)
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Microsoft rolled out this week the seventh Cumulative Update of fixes to Windows 10 Anniversary Update since the Anniversary version of Windows 10 began going to customers on August 2...causing installation issues for some users. I don't know how many are affected -- it's definitely nowhere near "all" -- but reports are coming in on Twitter and in Microsoft support forums from those who can't install the update, resulting (at least for some) in an endless loop of repeated attempts...
But a few of those affected have pointed out that when Microsoft first delivered this update to its "Release Preview" ring of Insider testers at the start of this week, some testers reported the installation failure/reboot issue. Despite those reports, Microsoft still pushed this update out to those not in the Insider program... Unsurprisingly, this issue is triggering a round of "What's the point of Insider testing?" questions. It looks to some like Microsoft is just ignoring Insider feedback...
Paul Thurrott reports that the problems are "widespread... Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues...it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice."
But a few of those affected have pointed out that when Microsoft first delivered this update to its "Release Preview" ring of Insider testers at the start of this week, some testers reported the installation failure/reboot issue. Despite those reports, Microsoft still pushed this update out to those not in the Insider program... Unsurprisingly, this issue is triggering a round of "What's the point of Insider testing?" questions. It looks to some like Microsoft is just ignoring Insider feedback...
Paul Thurrott reports that the problems are "widespread... Microsoft is pushing the idea that you should always patch your machine on the day the update is released as they often release security patches that fix vulnerabilities. But, until the company can get a handle on their quality control issues...it feels like every time you run Windows update you are rolling the dice."
It's finally here.
you mean kind of like systemd replacing SysVinit? </troll>
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NOT (quite) CORRECT. You can defer updates in the PRO version.
Settings-->Update & Security-->Windows Update--> Advanced options-->Defer Upgrades
Been working for me for months, whereas my one guinea-pig system that I didn't switch did upgrade eventually.
Security updates continued to come through.
Why they don't offer Defer Upgrades in the Home version is... I don't know. Cockiness. Force features on the Home-version Plebes.
Why they don't vet these updates better is... bizarre.
Apple pushed out five (I think) public betas before releasing Sierra, and the only thing I've noticed wrong is they yanked out PPTP VPN (they sent out warnings, but I didn't get the memo). Maybe the right thing to do, but it still messed me up. OTOH, I yelled at M$ through the Insider Program that their latest wasn't installing, and DID THEY LISTEN? If they'd only just do exactly what I tell them exactly when I say at all times... but noooooooooooo, 'cause we're Microsoft and we all went to Harvard we want to get into CELL PHONES 'cuz Uncle Pewterschmidt says that's where the money is!
Hey, Microsoft, if you that CEO position becomes vacant again, gimme a call. Fix everything, for 1/10 what you pay Satya. Maybe 1/3. We'll talk.
Take it easy, Charlie, I've got an Angle...
Why not just wait? If you don't surf questionable sites, have an up-to-date av program, and everything's working ok, why not just leave well enough alone and let the suckers take the hit? You don't see businesses rushing to update for a reason - and that reason is the topic of this story - it often breaks sh*t.
Come on Barbara, the only place I've received malware on a pc is while going to consumer sites. Can't figure out what's questionable about garage door openers or concrete tips (yup, both of those were spreading malware) or surfing Forbes is a malware vector as well.
As well, you buy a new computer these days - what comes on it? Yup, W10. Windows 10 downloaded without permission on computers, It had microsoft-ese on the popup screens that got people to "accidentally install it. On my W7 install, a blank screen would pop up, and anywhere you clicked in it it tried to install W10. Eventually I had to go into task manager to kill the strange blank windows that would pop up. This was an all out timeshare salesman like approach that had a lot of people install accidentally.
So please don't take the victim blaming approach here. No one should buy a computer knowing that it will get screwed up, or have an accident that installs the screwed up OS. Business is not supposed to take the Carny vs rube attitude Microsoft has taken to their customers.
Meanwhile, after abandoning W10 and staying on my W7 install, despite Microsoft trying to trick me, I've disabled updates, and approach 100 percent uptime. Life is gooder!
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Except that, Apple has rolled out OPTIONAL updates for the past 10+ years with only minor hiccups, and they have a rock solid support setup complete with Apple stores and stand by their products 110%.
MS is throwing out shit updates that break 10% of their install base after they know there is an issue with their guinea pigs. This has been their SOP for years, but now that Windows 10 has mandatory updates, they will be driving away hordes of customers. With so much of peoples lives on the computer, it is entirely unacceptable to break a PC with a shitty update. These days it is equivalent to an automaker forcing you to update their firmware with a patch that causes 10% of their cars to stop working. With any other industry, MS would be facing a massive lawsuit (oh wait they are being sued). What MS doesn't realize is that the PC industry has matured without them, and they are driving away customers in droves.
Watch for an uptick of Apple desktops and laptops sales.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
Yes, because no one has ever pushed a malicious ad into an ad network and got the ads published on big-name sites.
Everyone knows that AV detection rates are all less than 100%.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Sure you have a choice. The forced updates require a working internet connection. Disable it in Windows 10, and either boot another version of Windows or another OS off either another partition or an external device (DVD or USB). It's not THAT hard to install Linux or BSD for when you need the net.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
It is absurd to say this when you know many Windows users (Home version) cannot "wait". Stop making excuses for Microsoft's heavy handed, tin-eared, don't give a shit about customers attitude. There is no excuse for them taking all control away from users. If they did their jobs right, no one would even be talking about this, but they botch their updates virtually every time now. When you are batting zero, you should probably consider giving control back to customers so they can actually get work done on their computers without worrying about Microsoft crashing their computer with a compulsory update... that doesn't work. Sticking with Windows 7 Ultimate. No reason to downgrade to Windows 10, and lots of reasons not to.
A brain is a terrible thing to waste... Mind? That's debatable.
Lost network sharing on all updated computers.
Printer automatically uninstalled (had Win10 drivers).
Lost most file associations.
Reboot problems.
Yup, the 1607 update was really great!
Atleast my start menu is a lot messier now.
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Why not just wait?
Because living with security holes is risky.
You don't see businesses rushing to update for a reason
Which is of little comfort to the many millions of people who have their credentials stolen due to poor security practices.
Now admittedly this won't fix everything. If anything it's fixes are minor. But the real solution is to ensure that you can roll out security updates that don't break shit and install without issue. Why is this a problem with Windows and not with Ubuntu? I've never had a security update hose an Ubuntu system or even fail to install.
When this first hit the insider forums on the 28th there were quite widespread complaints and they were acknowledge by Microsoft people in the forum. It's not just a lack of quality control, the quality control is being done but no one cares anymore. Despite Microsoft reps asking for installation logs files from the many people who were reporting problems they released it anyway.
I mean this is just getting stupider and stupider.
Yeah. I mean it's just an OS. If you have problems just [insert long winded technical details here] and then you should be all good to use your computer.
This is the shit we mocked Linux about for many years, and now it seems that doing basic things like keeping your computer running is easier on Linux than Windows 10.
I have always had my systems set to inform me about updates but let me choose which ones and when to install them. Let somebody else find out the hard way when an update screws up a system.
That's why I will never have anything to do with Windows 10. It's just too much of a risk trusting Microsoft to do anything right.
Actually no. You still get updated 3 times a month. What deferred updates do is put your pc in the previous build channel. So you would an update too for build 1577 instead of anniversary. Same fixes. If you have deferred updates enabled and you already have anniversary edition you are screwed as you will get this update.
Basically it just means you stay on previous build for 3 to 4 months. You still get cumulative updates
http://saveie6.com/
They can basically do whatever the hell they want and people still buy the stupid operating system. They're the Donald Trump of the software world.
Except that, Apple has rolled out OPTIONAL updates for the past 10+ years
Tell me more about the OPTIONAL headphone jack.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Microsoft wants everyone to pay an additional licensing cost and throw out their original Windows 10 license for the privilege of not being part of their continuous deployment
No they don't. You couldn't pay this license fee even if you wanted to. Enterprise editions aren't available for anything other than specific and large volume contracts. This isn't a money issue or they'd allow it for some pro users too since that would push home users up. It also wouldn't cripple their enterprise sales because those contracts are tied in volume licensing for an entire suite of MS software.
Say it ain't so!
This thread is about companies that abuse their users by removing their choices.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Why do people say that MS Windows is easier to use than Linux ?
Because they haven't used Linux. Or if they had, it was from like 1998, and they are forming thier wrong opinion from ancient software
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.