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4chan Is Running Out of Money and Martin Shkreli Wants To Buy It (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: The infamous message board 4chan is struggling to stay afloat and will have to make changes to reduce costs, the site's owner wrote in a post on Sunday. "4chan can't afford infrastructure costs, network fee, servers cost, CDN and etc, now," writes Hiroyuki Nisimura, who bought the site from its founder last year. Nisimura says ads haven't been effective enough to support the site, nor have subscriptions offering additional features. "We had tried to keep 4chan as is. But I failed," Nisimura writes. "I am sincerely sorry." There are three options for 4chan to survive going forward, as far as Nisimura sees it: sell more subscriptions, include "much more" -- and potentially even malicious -- ads, or cut traffic to the site in half. That might be done by closing message boards, slowing down the site, or reducing the size of images that can be posted. Nisimura makes it sound bad (his post is titled "Winter is coming"), but he also proposes changes to save the site. Meanwhile, another infamous name -- Martin Shkreli -- says he's interested in buying 4chan; he's in touch with Nisimura, so maybe we'll see how that remarkably bad combination turns out. Martin Shkreli tweeted: "I'm open to joining the Board of Directors of 4Chan. @4chan." Not too long after, Hiroyuki Nisimura replied: "I have replied your DM. Thank you for supporting 4chan @MartinShkreli twitter.com/MartinShkreli/...."
8chan seems to be getting by and they have twice as many chans.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Because shutting down a site that has controversial and illegal (and borderline-illegal) material has always been a good way to stop the bad behavior? /b/ in particular) existing. If you're familiar with the SomethingAwful forums, 4chan is like a FYAD board in that it gives trolls and idiots someplace to go and get the stupidity out of their systems.
On the contrary, I think the internet is better for 4chan (and
And where do you think many of the great net memes first came from? Hint: it's not Slashdot.
I'm not worried about 4chan. It will survive or it will die and then rise again. It's done it before.
Notch now looking into buying 4chan Anonymous 10/03/16(Mon)19:51:42 No.56909338â->>56909384 >>56909411 >>56909683 >>56909721 >>56910005 >>56910058 >>56910195 >>56910297 >>56910483 >>56910593 >>56910655 >>56910945 /b/ got quads, summoning Notch to look into buying 4chan.
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"Assuming it's not too expensive, and assuming I don't have to do any actual work myself, I'm in."
Who here would work for notch maintaining the 4chan codebase ?
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Because shutting down a site that has controversial and illegal (and borderline-illegal) material has always been a good way to stop the bad behavior?
No, it's not a good way to stop bad behaviour, but if said bad behaviour causes the site to implode, then why should we help them stay afloat?
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why should we help them stay afloat?
Lets hope 4chan stays afloat, because otherwise 4chan posters will be dispersed throughout other sites and communities. Like a cyst bursting into bloodstream.
A match forged in the deepest levels of Hell I guess?
4chan board of directors: Martin Shkreli, Palmer Luckey, ...
I would guess >90% of 4chan users block the holy hell out of anything that might've once gone to school with an ad.
It's just a different spelling for the same name.
Wikipedia says his name is ... um, Slashdot doesn't like Kanji - look it up here.
The most commonly used transliteration in English is Nishimura Hiroyuki, according to the Hepburn system of romaji. It's Nisimura when written using the Nihon-shiki or Kunrei-shiki system.
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He's somehow not telling the whole story, he shut down the site's ads without warning, complaining about ad serving costs and urging people to buy 4chan passes. My guess is that he wants to be done with the site, causing a surge of subscriptions before claiming it's unsustainable and closing the servers. Moot was very clear about leaving the site with a solid foundation so this wouldn't happen, yet a year later the site is apparently on the verge of collapse. With Hiroyuki's track record, this seems highly suspicious and there might be something shadier going on.
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I can't imagine a more perfect match for 4chan than Martin Shkreli. They absolutely and completely deserve each other forever.
Containment forums are a proven good
I can't think of a more perfect person than Martin Shkreli to buy 4chan. It's ideal, really.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It's the beginning of October, not April.
And can the fine structure of spacetime even withstand Martin Shkreli and 4chan being in the same place simultaneously?
what about /r/blacklivesmatter? was that also shut down? of course not.
Lets hope 4chan stays afloat, because otherwise 4chan posters will be dispersed throughout other sites and communities. Like a cyst bursting into bloodstream.
>Implying we're not already here
Boogiemanposting aside, a lot of the boards are pretty useful. /g/, /fit/, /diy/, etc.
One wouldn't expect all containment measures to breach simultaneously.
Keep friends close and enemies closer? It could be argued the site is a relatively easy way to keep an eye on a lot of people who engage in that borderline illegal behavior. Shut it down and they'll scatter to who knows where. The problem won't disappear, you just won't know where to find it as easily.
If you want to help keep 4chan the way it is and not have it all crapped up with ads, a crowdfunding campaign has been set up here.
If someone behaves like an asshole, online or offline, he is an asshole. Any further distinction is irrelevant.
People behave like assholes on 4chan to drive away the overly-sensitive. Many are refugees from other forums, where you get banned for diverging from the groupthink/using the wrong pronoun/supporting the wrong presidential candidate. They created an environment where people who complain about their feelings getting hurt by words on the internet get laughed out the door. Personally, I find its honest abrasiveness more refreshing than the passive-aggressive politeness of other forums.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
So Shkrelli wants to have one company that causes cancer, so his other company have more people to sell overpriced cancer drugs to.
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what about /r/blacklivesmatter? was that also shut down? of course not.
I'm quite disgusted that this has been modded up. There is definitely an element of blacklivesmatter that is subversive and just looking to stir up trouble, but they were formed as a counter-measure to several famous cases of cops shooting young black males when there were other and better courses of action. The point of BLM is equality, not racism. You can't piss on the whole movement because of a few asshats who align themselves with it.
It is not accurate to compare a white supremacy to blm.
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People behave like assholes on 4chan to drive away the overly-sensitive.
That doesn't make them not assholes. If the only way you can come up with to stop people from complaining about what you're saying constantly is to ante up on being a fuckhead... you're an asshole.
Personally, I find its honest abrasiveness more refreshing than the passive-aggressive politeness of other forums.
And personally, you like assholes. That's OK, but don't pretend something else is true.
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I think there is a much better financial model that no website or newswebsite is using. I've recommended it and suggested it and even advocated it to the point of offending people, but as far as I know, it remains untested. I'd even put some of my own money behind it if the opportunity existed, but as things stand, I feel entitled to sit back and laugh. Doubtless it's unjustified, but I guess we'll never know, will we?
No, we do know. We know that you haven't put your labor where your smug is and produced a website that uses this system in order to test whether it really is superior. Nerd up and write some code, or STFU
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
A site full of self-entitled brats that block everything remotely close to an advertisement and are against any kind of subscription can't find a way to even cover maintenance costs?
This is what all websites will face eventually.
I was ignoring 4chan before it was cool.
4-who? You mean that support group for sociopathic outcasts who aren't smart enough to venture out onto the real internet?
You don't act like an asshole to drive away the overly sensitive, you ignore them. Eventually they get fed up that no one is listening to them whine and move on. This is the tactic we use on the boards I moderate and it works really well. Being an asshole drives away regular people too.
Ad revenues have plummeted in the last few years as everyone has ad blockers. From what I understand it was a pretty steep, sudden drop. When he talks about more intrusive ads he's talking about ones that make it past ad blockers whether you like it not. Google, Yahoo, and all the major ad networks can easily bypass an ad blocker. They choose not to.
He probably bought 4chan expecting ad revenues to match viewership/bandwidth usage without realizing it. Honestly ad blockers had been around ages so he probably wasn't expecting the sudden uptick in their usage.
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I think it makes perfect sense for a business troll to own a board that spawns online trolls. They can synergize their core competencies and raise trolling to new, unheard of, levels.
Lets hope 4chan stays afloat, because otherwise 4chan posters will be dispersed throughout other sites and communities. Like a cyst bursting into bloodstream.
Do you really think 4channers aren't already at sites like Slashdot? When I see the odious behavior of some ACs here, I generally assume it's another bored kid with no social skills.
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Hey, Whipslash, maybe you guys should get in on this one!