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4chan Is Running Out of Money and Martin Shkreli Wants To Buy It (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: The infamous message board 4chan is struggling to stay afloat and will have to make changes to reduce costs, the site's owner wrote in a post on Sunday. "4chan can't afford infrastructure costs, network fee, servers cost, CDN and etc, now," writes Hiroyuki Nisimura, who bought the site from its founder last year. Nisimura says ads haven't been effective enough to support the site, nor have subscriptions offering additional features. "We had tried to keep 4chan as is. But I failed," Nisimura writes. "I am sincerely sorry." There are three options for 4chan to survive going forward, as far as Nisimura sees it: sell more subscriptions, include "much more" -- and potentially even malicious -- ads, or cut traffic to the site in half. That might be done by closing message boards, slowing down the site, or reducing the size of images that can be posted. Nisimura makes it sound bad (his post is titled "Winter is coming"), but he also proposes changes to save the site. Meanwhile, another infamous name -- Martin Shkreli -- says he's interested in buying 4chan; he's in touch with Nisimura, so maybe we'll see how that remarkably bad combination turns out. Martin Shkreli tweeted: "I'm open to joining the Board of Directors of 4Chan. @4chan." Not too long after, Hiroyuki Nisimura replied: "I have replied your DM. Thank you for supporting 4chan @MartinShkreli twitter.com/MartinShkreli/...."
4chan could go from being cancer, to selling cancer drugs. How about that.
8chan seems to be getting by and they have twice as many chans.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Is that the site where people post pictures of cats with clever captions? This is a critical piece of Internet infrastructure and must be kept afloat at all costs.
Because shutting down a site that has controversial and illegal (and borderline-illegal) material has always been a good way to stop the bad behavior? /b/ in particular) existing. If you're familiar with the SomethingAwful forums, 4chan is like a FYAD board in that it gives trolls and idiots someplace to go and get the stupidity out of their systems.
On the contrary, I think the internet is better for 4chan (and
And where do you think many of the great net memes first came from? Hint: it's not Slashdot.
I'm not worried about 4chan. It will survive or it will die and then rise again. It's done it before.
1 post = $700
Notch now looking into buying 4chan Anonymous 10/03/16(Mon)19:51:42 No.56909338â->>56909384 >>56909411 >>56909683 >>56909721 >>56910005 >>56910058 >>56910195 >>56910297 >>56910483 >>56910593 >>56910655 >>56910945 /b/ got quads, summoning Notch to look into buying 4chan.
A lucky anon on
"Assuming it's not too expensive, and assuming I don't have to do any actual work myself, I'm in."
Who here would work for notch maintaining the 4chan codebase ?
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>entire website will be Java based
>everything inside one
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Because shutting down a site that has controversial and illegal (and borderline-illegal) material has always been a good way to stop the bad behavior?
No, it's not a good way to stop bad behaviour, but if said bad behaviour causes the site to implode, then why should we help them stay afloat?
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I thought most of the userbase of 4chan had long ago migrated to 8chan after moots administration behaviour changed and people thought 4chan had been sold out to SJW values.
How is the health of 8chan looking?
why should we help them stay afloat?
Lets hope 4chan stays afloat, because otherwise 4chan posters will be dispersed throughout other sites and communities. Like a cyst bursting into bloodstream.
Hi everyone, 4chan here. His name is Hiroyuki Nishimura, not Hiroyuki Nisimura. I will now prove the authenticity of my post by sharing a beloved 4chan meme.
EDIT
Wow, thanks for the gold! I can't believe my most-upvoted post ever is about the owner of a bankrupt Vietnamese goat-herding newsgroup!
A match forged in the deepest levels of Hell I guess?
4chan board of directors: Martin Shkreli, Palmer Luckey, ...
I would guess >90% of 4chan users block the holy hell out of anything that might've once gone to school with an ad.
He's somehow not telling the whole story, he shut down the site's ads without warning, complaining about ad serving costs and urging people to buy 4chan passes. My guess is that he wants to be done with the site, causing a surge of subscriptions before claiming it's unsustainable and closing the servers. Moot was very clear about leaving the site with a solid foundation so this wouldn't happen, yet a year later the site is apparently on the verge of collapse. With Hiroyuki's track record, this seems highly suspicious and there might be something shadier going on.
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I can't imagine a more perfect match for 4chan than Martin Shkreli. They absolutely and completely deserve each other forever.
I would like to see one month with Shkreli leading 4chan. Purely for the entertainment value. Then when we've had a good laugh, then let it fold.
First, everyone should always block ads.
Second, I'm pretty sure all of 4chan knows this.
Third, 4chan is... lets just go with "special". I think it's pretty charming that you refer to them as "customers", too.
Containment forums are a proven good
Ad blockers happened?
One more reason to be in favour of ad blockers. ;)
Precisely. When Reddit shut down the /r/coontown white supremacy forum, its users flooded into the rest of the site spewing hatred everywhere. Now most of them have regrouped in /r/The_Donald, where the majority of the site's users don't have to see them.
I can't think of a more perfect person than Martin Shkreli to buy 4chan. It's ideal, really.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I read "Skillrex" when I was skimming message title. Very odd.
But, at least he has more money than Shkreli to fund 4chan.
It's the beginning of October, not April.
And can the fine structure of spacetime even withstand Martin Shkreli and 4chan being in the same place simultaneously?
what about /r/blacklivesmatter? was that also shut down? of course not.
Lets hope 4chan stays afloat, because otherwise 4chan posters will be dispersed throughout other sites and communities. Like a cyst bursting into bloodstream.
>Implying we're not already here
Boogiemanposting aside, a lot of the boards are pretty useful. /g/, /fit/, /diy/, etc.
Then everyone can exit the site for the exciting new 4.1chan.
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One wouldn't expect all containment measures to breach simultaneously.
Keep friends close and enemies closer? It could be argued the site is a relatively easy way to keep an eye on a lot of people who engage in that borderline illegal behavior. Shut it down and they'll scatter to who knows where. The problem won't disappear, you just won't know where to find it as easily.
Tin foil hat time. The powers that be want this shut down. That FBIanon shit was not going to go unpunished.
Where do you even find ads appropriate for 4chan? As sleazy as all advertisers are, I still don't think you can find one for dickgirls with a yeast infection or similar fare.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
If you want to help keep 4chan the way it is and not have it all crapped up with ads, a crowdfunding campaign has been set up here.
That was pretty amusing, also an accurate picture of what /qa/ looks like: autists spamming for /pol/ to be deleted.
If someone behaves like an asshole, online or offline, he is an asshole. Any further distinction is irrelevant.
Donations, mostly. It has shut down a few times in the past due to using all the goddamn bandwidth. They refuse to accept donations now though. Not really worrying though, something will just pop up to take its place, like every other time a popular website has closed.
Martin isn't buying it, neither is Notch. Both of them were just trolling.
Nobody really knows what is going on. Hiroshamoot isn't really explaining, and even when he does post his English is lacking, at best. He refuses to take donations as well.
Either way, I don't see any reason to be worried. I doubt it will shut down, and even if it does it won't change anything (Though it has died a few times in the past).
Whenever a popular website shuts down, something rises to take its place. &TotSE died from it because the community was already dwindling, but 4chan is still fuckhuge. The bigger issue is increased shitposting and lack of janitors.
4chan died years ago when Christopher Poole started censoring and collecting data for the FBI. SJW's donned its skin and have been dancing around in it ever since. And fuck the Verge for repeating lies.
Yeah, because /b/tards only shitpost to /b/
They have already metastasized to the rest of the Internet.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
People behave like assholes on 4chan to drive away the overly-sensitive. Many are refugees from other forums, where you get banned for diverging from the groupthink/using the wrong pronoun/supporting the wrong presidential candidate. They created an environment where people who complain about their feelings getting hurt by words on the internet get laughed out the door. Personally, I find its honest abrasiveness more refreshing than the passive-aggressive politeness of other forums.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
I'm sure there's many dildo and douche companies that would love to advertise to the dildos and douches that frequent 4chan...
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
If someone behaves like an asshole, online or offline, he is an asshole. Any further distinction is irrelevant.
I agree, but that opinion is incredibly rare. Not only that it seems to go both ways. I've been a member of a forum which had a significant AFK presence. An awful lot of people appeared to consider the online and offline personas as completely different people. You'd get people saying things approaching "oh yes, I mean sure he is a known thief, a vandal, has a toothbrush moustache and is actually literally Hitler in person but he posts nice cat pictures".
WTF?!
SJW n. One who posts facts.
I think there is a much better financial model that no website or newswebsite is using. I've recommended it and suggested it and even advocated it to the point of offending people, but as far as I know, it remains untested. I'd even put some of my own money behind it if the opportunity existed, but as things stand, I feel entitled to sit back and laugh. Doubtless it's unjustified, but I guess we'll never know, will we?
Fortunately, I don't care about 4chan and won't miss it.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Because shutting down a site that has controversial and illegal (and borderline-illegal) material has always been a good way to stop the bad behavior?
Yes. 4chan was a central location for orchestrating campaigns of trolling, harassment and other obnoxious behaviour. Not only did it facilitate this behaviour but it normalized it, encouraging others who might not normally participate to do so. If the site is gone then it obviously becomes harder to conduct attacks on such a large scale.
I'm sure some of the more determined trolls might gravitate to smaller sites but in so doing their ability to be assholes is diminished too.
> My guess is that he wants to be done with the site
This makes a lot of sense. It feels like he's very eager to throw the towel into the ring.
I predict- this will fix the internet!!
Another consultant who stuck it out.
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An asshole buying a site filled with assholes?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
That's exactly what would make it hilarious. Can you imagine the 4chan crowd doing their worst to destroy their own "home" out of spite?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The questions is why that piece of garbage is still alive.
That's one of those people whose only reason to survive is that he ain't worth a nanosecond of jail time.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Nobody said anything about shutting it down except you. If a business goes bankrupt because they can't generate enough profits to cover expenses - there is nothing oppressive happening. It can often be a sad event - for the owners who invested in the business, the workers who are losing their livelihoods -even the customers who are losing their access to the product, but it's not an *evil* event.
There are plenty of evil forms of business bankruptcy - but this is literally a textbook example of the non-evil kind.
Shutting down implies some nefarious outside power forcing it to shut down. The only outside power involved here is the cost of bandwidth and infrastructure so unless you have some information that proves the ISP was charging 4chan more than they would charge any other site with similar traffic, there is no 'shutting down' being done.
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He is the sewage big gulp to their turdburger.
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I'm sure those stupid online t-shirt companies fit the 4chan demographic. That and cheap-ass alcohol ads. Red bull, Mountain dew. Geek-culture ads. Anime and cartoon network paraphanalia. Whatever the 21st century equivalent of Spencer's gifts is.
Plenty of things that would probably work for 4chan.
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what about /r/blacklivesmatter? was that also shut down? of course not.
I'm quite disgusted that this has been modded up. There is definitely an element of blacklivesmatter that is subversive and just looking to stir up trouble, but they were formed as a counter-measure to several famous cases of cops shooting young black males when there were other and better courses of action. The point of BLM is equality, not racism. You can't piss on the whole movement because of a few asshats who align themselves with it.
It is not accurate to compare a white supremacy to blm.
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This isn't necessarily a bad thing. They just need to make sure they hold out for enough punches in Shkreli's face to make it worth it.
When someone says, "Any fool can see
Erh... context?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
And they will release an edu version that only runs on Windows 10
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
People behave like assholes on 4chan to drive away the overly-sensitive.
That doesn't make them not assholes. If the only way you can come up with to stop people from complaining about what you're saying constantly is to ante up on being a fuckhead... you're an asshole.
Personally, I find its honest abrasiveness more refreshing than the passive-aggressive politeness of other forums.
And personally, you like assholes. That's OK, but don't pretend something else is true.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
They started it, but the baton has been passed. I don't think there's a site which causes more people to be doxxed nowadays than Reddit for instance. Getting rid of 4chan won't accomplish anything.
It's hardly a hive of illegal content either, 4chan is a honeypot.
A site full of self-entitled brats that block everything remotely close to an advertisement and are against any kind of subscription can't find a way to even cover maintenance costs?
This is what all websites will face eventually.
Jesus, how do you read that?
Threaded forums were invented for a reason. Flat threads don't scare well to a lot of users. Fark ran into the issue. Usenet ran into the issue. E-mail lists ran into the issue.
My main problem with 4chan is that that board software sucks. It's ugly, difficult to follow a thread, images often just get in the way, difficult to track who's saying what. Reddit at least has a clean interface.
Cutting traffic means cutting ad revenue. Is this guy retarded? trolling? What is going on?
also server cost? Are they running on node.js or something?
>network fees
>or reducing the size of images that can be posted
why the hell are you self hosting images then? let imgur or other cancer take care of that (and the money from ads they inject because apparently you are incompetent).
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
It does seem to be a marriage made in hell doesn't it?
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No it won't.
4chan is one of the roadblocks for a completely commercialized gentrified filtered internet, where you can get kicked out of it for badmouthing the wrong corporation.
You don't act like an asshole to drive away the overly sensitive, you ignore them. Eventually they get fed up that no one is listening to them whine and move on. This is the tactic we use on the boards I moderate and it works really well. Being an asshole drives away regular people too.
the posters are as nasty as they are because 4chan not only allows but encourages it. Notice how the Hot Grit & Greased Yoda Doll posts are 99% gone? It's not perfectly possible to filter out the trolls. Heck, I don't even see the GNAA "frosty piss" posts anymore. If anything lossing 4 chan will probably mean they don't have a place to organize their (admittedly harmless) large scale troll operations (like when they made Donald Trump win the last debate in the online polls).
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Ad revenues have plummeted in the last few years as everyone has ad blockers. From what I understand it was a pretty steep, sudden drop. When he talks about more intrusive ads he's talking about ones that make it past ad blockers whether you like it not. Google, Yahoo, and all the major ad networks can easily bypass an ad blocker. They choose not to.
He probably bought 4chan expecting ad revenues to match viewership/bandwidth usage without realizing it. Honestly ad blockers had been around ages so he probably wasn't expecting the sudden uptick in their usage.
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"Now then, Savage, I want to talk to you about some charges that you've been bringing lately. I think that perhaps you're being a little over-zealous."
"Which charges did you mean then, sir?"
"Well, for instance this one: 'Loitering with intent to use a pedestrian crossing.' Savage, maybe you're not aware of this, but it is not illegal to use a pedestrian crossing, neither is 'smelling of foreign food' an offence."
"Are you sure, sir?"
"Also, there's no law against 'Urinating in a public convenience or 'Coughing without due care and attention.'"
"If you say so, sir..."
"Yes, I do say so, Savage! Didn't they teach you anything at training school?"
"Erm, I'm sorry, sir..."
"Some of these cases are just plain stupid: 'Looking at me in a funny way' - Is this some kind of joke, Savage?"
"No, sir."
"And we have some more here: 'Walking on the cracks in the pavement,' 'Walking in a loud shirt in a built-up area during the hours of darkness,' and 'Walking around with an offensive wife.' In short, Savage, in the space of one month you have brought one hundred and seventeen ridiculous, trumped-up and ludicrous charges."
"Yes, sir."
"Against the same man, Savage."
"Yes, sir."
"A Mr Winston Kodogo, of 55, Mercer Road."
"Yes, sir."
"Sit down, Savage."
"Yes, sir."
"Savage, why do you keep arresting this man?"
"He's a villain, sir.""A villain...""And a jail-bird, sir."
"I know he's a jail-bird, Savage, he's down in the cells now! We're holding him on a charge of 'Possession of curly black hair and thick lips.'"
"Well - well, there you are, sir."
"You arrested him, Savage!"
"Thank you, sir."
"Savage, would I be correct in assuming that Mr Kodogo is a coloured gentleman?"
"Well, I can't say I've ever noticed, sir."
"Stand up, Savage! - Savage, you're a bigot. It's officers like you that give the police a bad name. The press love to jump on an instance like this, and the reputation of the force can be permanently tarnished. Your whole time on duty is dominated by racial hatred and petty personal vendettas. Do you get some kind of perverted gratification from going around stirring up trouble?"
"Yes, sir."
"There's no room for men like you in my force, Savage. I'm transferring you to the S.P.G. "
"Thank you very much, sir."
The RPG.net forums list in its guidelines a set of banned topics, including Westboro Baptist Church, homosexuality, transgender people, spanking children and male circumcision. That's probably the most ban-happy place I've frequented, but there's plenty of others.
I was banned from Facebook for three days, for mentioning "Ten Little Niggers", in a thread about old books that had their title changed for political correctness.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
I think it makes perfect sense for a business troll to own a board that spawns online trolls. They can synergize their core competencies and raise trolling to new, unheard of, levels.
this seems highly suspicious
Well duh, some people would view this as an unfavorable outcome and human brains have evolved so well to quickly recognize patterns and relationships that they often equate coincidence or even completely unrelated events as conspiracy and this is being debated...on the internet! Of course it "seems" suspicious.
I mean, it's a cesspool and I don't care for it, but it's literally an image board and you want to make it more about text.
Lets hope 4chan stays afloat, because otherwise 4chan posters will be dispersed throughout other sites and communities. Like a cyst bursting into bloodstream.
Do you really think 4channers aren't already at sites like Slashdot? When I see the odious behavior of some ACs here, I generally assume it's another bored kid with no social skills.
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>line eater food
There are extensions that do threading and all sorts of stuff. For chrome and Firefox.
>Usenet
>Threaded
Only if you turn it on in your newsreader.
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/ b/ and /pol/ are containment boards. Moot tried getting rid of /pol/ and the results were less than optimal. You don't want them to go away.
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Hey, Whipslash, maybe you guys should get in on this one!
Yeah they're here alright.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
As long as blacks are more likely to resist arrest and commit crimes they will get shot more.
The way I use statistics is laughably naive.
FTFY.
The point of BLM is equality, not racism. You can't piss on the whole movement because of a few asshats who align themselves with it.
It is not accurate to compare a white supremacy to blm.
Equality means people can indeed piss on the whole movement because of a few asshats who align themselves with it.
That is what mainstream politics and the press do to these sorts of political movements. That's what they did to the Tea Party, Occupy Movement, and now Black Lives Matter. Guilt by association is a pretty transparent tactic by parties aligned with various factions to undermine competing factions. And guilt by association in particular is the inherent weakness of populist movements because populist movements by their nature are going to include many many more people with a wider range of backgrounds including racists, criminals, gang members etc etc. There is simply no way to defend the integrity of a populist movement based on the integrity of all of its members.
It is also the weakness of BLM in particular because the movement has no simply stated achievable goals and relies on a shared sense of oppression and persecution for an ongoing sense of purpose. And there has been, a now exposed, cynical conspiracy by the democratic party elite to co-opt black lives matter into a vehicle to drive turnout on election day without actually delivering any achievable policy... Keep it supportive yet vague was the directive.
Again the cynical democratic party elite has tried to make sure BLM has no clear achievable agenda other than being a vehicle for discontent. The implication being that any actual policy agenda will either be too divisive within the democratic party or will be agreeable to all sides and won't allow for a contrast between parties that would help drive turnout.
It simply doesn't serve the party to achieve anything before election day other than black voter turnout. And then the next election is just two years away... It is up to BLM leaders to get some agenda on the table that most people can agree to and to stop being used for petty partisan politics. BLM itself needs to keep the focus on the things that can actually work to make things better.
Are these stats real? Can anybody confirm?
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tin foil hat time!
All joking aside, I'm honestly curious if a site that fosters 'socially denigrated values' can actually encourage people to flee farther into their niche or if it just gives their inside voice a place to vent in isolation. Basically, if 4Chan never existed, would there be more trolling, 'obscenity', shaming, harassment, etc.. online or is having them all in voluntarily isolation actually of some sort of social benefit?
Bye!
4chan is an internet plague. It deserves to die, and then to have a parade of it's users shit and piss on the grave.
No, 4chan (and these days 8chan) serves a purpose: containment.
If you close down the site, the patrons will go elsewhere. Like here.
Threaded forums were invented for a reason.
Threaded forums are a poor clone of Usenet.
Sadly, Usenet has two issues:
Usenet was a one-stop location for every kind of threaded discussion imaginable; no need to visit a different forum for a different subject, and the interface was always the same from one group to the next.
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4chan is an imageboard, not a forum. It centers around sharing images and short video, which are the main point of the site. The discussion is merely incidental.
Yes, statistically black people are arrested more (not going down that rabbit hole), but ultimately race shouldn't matter in the course of police work at all. If someone is resisting, they should be restrained. If restraint is insufficient and there's credible danger for the officer, they have the right to defend themselves with lethal force. Those rules should apply evenly to all suspects evenly regardless of race.
Now, one would expect that if say hypothetically black people were 60% of violent offenders who violently resist arrest. You would generally expect some 60% of police killings to be against a black person. Obviously there are variables that you wave away, but if you see a significant statistical deviation of black people being shot, there may be something to this 'systemic discrimination' of black people in the police force.
The more interesting question is if said (hypothetical) bias works amongst police of all races, or isolated to race demographics. black-on-black, white-on-black, black-on-white, white-on-white, Asian, Hispanic, etc..
Bye!
Whats the fix? Allow non commercial site owners to host their own hardware/servers/website cutting costs alot. Why should non commercial sites be punished for becoming popular? Their has to be a way to cut out the for profit middlemen in web hosting.
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facebook ban people for no reason: it's written in the Bible!
They could easily save half their bandwidth with better board software.
In all the major stories that have broken over the last year or so; half probably haven't deserved the outrage and half should. This isn't all about "blacks resisting arrest". In half the cases they haven't been resisting or doing anything wrong at all. (in the other half, they were and probably there is no right for outrage).
I think police definitely treat blacks and whites differently, part of this is self-inflicted (some black people tend to be more aggressive and disdainful towards police); but if a man isn't a danger to a cop or anyone else (black or white) lethal force should never be used. Being black should never be a reason to be shot. It doesn't matter if a cop was heckled by a group of black youth 15 mins earlier- he has no right to shoot a completely different black man at a traffic stop.
A decent percentage of these major stories the cop has been very far in the wrong. Another group of them (like the one in Fergusson that kicked this all off), time has shown that the cop wasn't in the wrong.
All police should wear body cams all the time so that we know on a case by case basis if the police abused their power.
ALL SHOOTINGS BY POLICE should go through a thorough investigation. Every single last one of them (black or white) should be investigated by an independent body.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Yeap It's written on the Bible...
So by your logic:
One US swimmer trashed a gas station and said he was robbed at gunpoint.
Does that mean everyone in America is a lying scumbag vandal?
That's ridiculous, just like it's ridiculous to claim BLM is a hate group just because there are a few members in the organization that are.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
So by your logic:
One US swimmer trashed a gas station and said he was robbed at gunpoint.
Does that mean everyone in America is a lying scumbag vandal?
That's ridiculous, just like it's ridiculous to claim BLM is a hate group just because there are a few members in the organization that are.
I didn't say it was right, just that it was equal treatment. And it isn't without some merit that a group is attacked for the actions of a few. The saying goes that a few bad apples spoil the bunch... as in if you don't exclude the bad apples, take them out, that they will spoil the rest. That goes for the police and BLM.
to serve the ads from your site. It's also just not that hard to change domains faster than the adblockers can keep up. And if google stops letting you block their ads what will you do, block google? That's fine, you're not using their service anymore (and not costing them money in bandwidth/server capacity).
Google doesn't bypass adblockers for the same reason Nigerian scammers write such dumb emails. Good leads are worth more than bad ones. Anyone with an adblocker is likely to be a bad lead.
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That's fine. But other people want the ability to discuss whatever the hell they want without being shut down. For these people, there's 4chan. For people like you, there's forums with ban-happy moderators ensuring any topics that may upset people are removed.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
The cancer went malignant years ago and has already infested most of the rest of the internet.
Online used to be my respite from the idiocy of the real world, back in the days when it was mostly college professors or at least students, and nerdy little kids like I was, on the nascent public ISPs, were the worst of the noobs. Now, most of the idiots (and definitely the worst of them) that I encounter seem to be on the internet, and more and more, the things they have in common all seem to stem from 4chan "culture" and its derivatives.
It's really all just an extension of Eternal September, plus Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. More and more, the internet is populated by the same morons who make the real world a shithole, their swarm overwhelming whatever moderating influence the indigenous population may have once had on such newcomers; and the anonymity and large audience the internet provides to them just brings out the worst in all of them.
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