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Google Unveils Pixel and Pixel XL, the First Phones It 'Designed Inside and Out' (www.bgr.in)
At an event on Tuesday, Google unveiled the Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones, the first phones "designed inside and out by Google." Focusing less on the hardware, the company says the biggest selling point of the phones is Google Assistant, which will be available to users wherever they go. Both Pixels have a quad-core 2.15GHz 64-bit processor, 4GB of RAM, 32GB or 128GB of storage, a 12.3MP rear camera, an 8MP front camera, a fingerprint scanner on the back, and a USB-C port on the bottom. The major differences between the two are in size, display (5-inch vs 5.5-inch), and battery (2770mAh vs 3450mAh). The company says the rear camera on both phones is top-notch as well, scoring 89 on DxO, the highest ever for a smartphone. Both phones also come with "endless cloud storage," the company said. It will let users backup unlimited storage in full-resolution images and videos shot with the Pixel. Pricing starts at $649 for the smaller 5-inch Pixel, available for preorder today. Mark Gurman of Bloomberg shares the inside story of how these phones were conceived.
If Google is no longer shipping 'stock Android' on their own devices, will they let it rot like the AOSP browser, email client, and other bits that they don't care about anymore?
...does it have a 3,5 mm audio jack?
It's not made by Google, it's made by HTC. And they just rejiggered the HTC 10. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10...
When you read "unlimited" or any variation thereof, you should replace it in your mind with "a mystery amount of".
"a mystery amount of cloud storage"
what a great DEAL this is some real NEWS
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because i never see it and don't know anyone who does. other than doing it for safety reasons while driving this sounds like the most stupid thing ever. and i've tried Siri and Google Now and hate both
The first phone designed inside and out by Google... ... with a piece of tracing paper over an iPhone 6
Now with Unlimited Datamining!
Let's see what happens when sales remain flat. Nexus had good prices (except for the nexus 6) with decent hardware. Selling the pixels starting at 649$ seems arrogant at best. For that price most people will choose the iPhone and get a faster phone to boot (1 year old iPhone 6S even beats the Note 7)
I just hope the Nexus program lives on. If android is about choice, we should be able to have a phone with google-provided updates for 350$. I don't want to switch to Samsung, LG, or even custom roms
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No thanks. I don't want to know how anything was conceived.
Where's the Google page for this? I don't see it in the store or at /pixel.
I'm assuming it has no SD card slot, CDMA reception, or a battery that can be quickly removed for security, but I'd like to at least look. I'm really surprised it has no more RAM than my four year old phone, though.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
My AdBlock must be broken...
Holy crap, $650? Did I miss a memo, or is that outrageously high?
No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
The live stream started with a Google rep talking about how important it is for Google to be involved in both the hardware and software of the phone. I suppose the parallel being how Apple benefits from having control over both hardware and software. Yet everything in the stream after that was all about software that can run on any Android device, not just Pixel.
Did they mention any possibility of Project Fi support with these new phones, or is it time to look at the older 5x / 6p models once they go on sale?
I find it odd that this unreleased phone has received a higher rating from dxomark.com than the iPhone 7, which has not been reviewed even though it has been available for a couple of weeks now.
Wonder how much Google paid them to NOT review the iPhone 7 until the Pixel had been announced.
"89? 89 what?"
"I don't know, but you have to admit, it sounds like a lot of them."
Now at the same price bracket as Note 7/SGS7 here's the list of features you will not get:
Updates to new major Android versions will be ceased just 24 months after the release. Google is out of their minds.
Underwhelming, but don't take my word for it /levarburton.
I couldn't find anything on that. That's why you take out the headphone jack.. and also, cause you don't need it.
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Since this is Google we're talking about, can we assume there is no microSD? Overpriced internal storage and small capacities on the cheapest models, with no external storage, was the biggest failure of the Nexus line, and the main thing that turned me off. Google continued to push slow, cumbersome cloud storage while people bought scads of Samsung and other phones with expandable storage. Is this Google as usual, or have they seen the light? These new phones sound amazing, but I can't get by with 32GB and I bet the premium for the 128GB models will be high. And are these expected to be SIM-unlocked and have unlocked boot loaders, or is that changing as they kill the Nexus name?
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
unless it has a user-replaceable battery and a fucking stereo jack.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
I'd like to think if they're going to go with the "smallest addressable display element" as the name of the thing that one of the versions would actually be small, but i guess not.
It seems that i'll have to go with one of Sony's Xperia Compact phones if i actually want small size with decent hardware, but despite owning a PS4 the notion of getting computer hardware from Sony makes me a little uneasy.
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I've been using iPhones since 2008 since my work pays for them. At this point I have tons of apps that I've purchased (and that I use) that I would not want to repurchase if I moved to Android. If google was to say "if you purchase a Pixel, and if the iOS apps you own also exist in the play store, we will pay for the apps, this is a one time deal between this date and this date" then I'd jump on over.
The only phone that would've provided everything anyone could want in a phone was killed off to make room for this? I know there were technical/organizational troubles with the ARA. But come on.
I wonder if the phones will be rootable. And if they can be rooted, I wonder, (given that they're made by HTC), if users will be able to truly root them.
I rooted the last HTC phone I had, then proceeded to delete Facebook, Twitter, and the rest of the shovelware I had no use for. On the next hard reset, all the crap was back. Repeatedly. I never could find the file(s) from which they restored it - I suspect it was in an unaccessible boot location. Also, custom ROM's weren't available, because on this particular HTC phone, (among others), it wasn't possible to gain a state called "S-Off". So yes, I could do things like run a firewall that I could control, and look at system files; but I couldn't do the rest of the things normally associated with root.
That state of affairs strikes me as something Google would love. Then they could say, "Yes, you can root our phones" while extending their middle fingers behind their backs.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Why is the screen .2 inch smaller than the 6P?
It has a headphone jack and Quick Charge obviates the need for a user replaceable battery (mostly) - Get 7hrs of battery from a 15 min charge.
The whole point of buying google was that their boot loader was unlocked, and the hardware was documented and relatively open, and you could install whatever the shit you wanted.
(Even full blown GNU/Linux, Open WebOS, SailfishOS... even some hacked embed Windows for shit and giggles).
If Google isn't locking the new phones, a sizeable portion of their consumer base will still buy them.
If the non-AOSP parts aren't excessively intrusive and destroying the experience, a lot of the remaining portion will keep buying them.
If they manage to paint a white fruit on it, call it "iPixel" instead and add an extra "0" at the end of the price, they'll see a giant inrush of new customer and earn more fucktons of money they've ever dreamed of, even if counting the settlement for trademark infringement.
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You can still drill one into it, if it misses a jack.
(Just don't forget to put the phone in the Microwave to recharge it's battery if it stops working while the drilling is in progress).
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It has the stereo jack. User swappable batteries are a functional feature, not a "premium" feature, so it lacks that.
Don't want no 'fucking stereo jack', thankyouverymuch. I put my phone in my pants pocket. I want it to stay there.
Quietly.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
The issue is not how fast the battery can be charged, the issue is that I can't remove it and be sure the phone is powered down.
That would be weird. But I use it all the time for general searches if I'm not going to disturb other people because it's significantly faster than typing.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Siri, remind me when I get home/to the office to...
Siri, text my wife that....
Siri, take me to home/whatever
Siri, set an alarm for 8:00am
Those are the things I do multiple times per week, there are other less common uses but those I find are the most useful and they work pretty much 100% of the time.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If your primary concern is to make sure your phone can't track things you do then the last company you want to buy it from is Google. Your issue has nothing to do with batteries.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
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Quick Charge does nothing to solve the problem of not having a user replaceable battery.
Never in my life have I swapped a battery out in the middle of the day because my first one was low. On the other hand, I'm on my third battery for my Galaxy S4 that otherwise runs perfectly. If the battery wasn't easily swappable, my 800 dollar pocket computer would be a paperweight.
"Though manufactured by HTC, both smartphones feature the âGâ(TM) logo and are touted as âMade by Googleâ(TM)."
As if this were any different from "though manufactured by Samsung, the phones feature the Apple logo and are touted as 'made by Apple'."
Asshats.
"Mark Gurman of Bloomberg shares the inside story of how these phones were conceived."
It was January 9, 2007 and I was watching Steve Jobs at Macworld....
G designed it inside and out, except it's just another Snapdragon platform. G didn't make their own ARM SoC, which is the heart of any Android device.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
So much closer to anything they have offered since the Nexus 5, but still not a suitable replacement for my Nexus 5 because of the first two negatives.
- I want wireless charging option.
- I want a reasonable price- this is too high.
I could even overlook the price if it has wireless charging. I just do not want to give up that incredibly convenient feature. Here are the positives and don't cares:
+ I want lots of battery life. This has it.
+ I want a freaking 3.5mm headphone jack. This has it.
+ I want a decent camera. This has it.
+ I want a full-powered smaller version. FINALLY, they offer it.
+ I want power/volume buttons on sides. This has it.
+ I want as pure/minimal Android as possible. This has it.
+ I want longest updates life. This will have it.
* I don't care about resolution, anything modern is good enough.
* I don't care about fashion, it will be in a case.
* I don't care about a fingerprint sensor.
* I don't care about waterproof.
Quick Charge obviates the need for a user replaceable battery
No, it really doesn't.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
As someone who's used to the Apple/iOS world where your phone isn't owned by the carriers and infected with non-uninstallable bullshit, what are the options for a stock/"clean" Android phone that actually gets security updates for more than a month? That used to be the Nexus, but now it sounds like Google is doubling down on the built-in spying. Are there other choices out there? Preferably something that I don't have to root and then become a phone sysadmin.
With such a long list of deal-breaking requirements, I don't think you will ever buy a new smartphone. Meanwhile the prices for 32GB Nexus 5X have dropped to well below 300USD since this summer, and I suspect the 6P will also drop down by the holidays.
"- I want wireless charging option."
yeah, me too. I have a great wireless charger in my car. I drop in my phone and drive. It is just so convenient. I don't know why they dropped the wireless charging feature. Looks like I'll be keeping my Nexus 5 a for another year or two.
So... the Nexus 5x and Nexus 6P are deleted? EoL? Just like that?? They're only *just* one year old, and even their cases and accessories have vanished from the Play Store along with the old Nexus devices...
Get a standalone wireless charger, and plug it on the USB port. Problem solved!
Also, Google Tax is much worse, since they've got no USP over all the other Android cell phones manufacturers.
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It would appear that not only have they abandoned the Nexus name, they've abandoned its philosophy of being a cheap, no-frills, hacker-friendly device. The new pixel phones will cost a minimum of $649 and be next to impossible to root.
No, it really doesn't.
Yes it does. This is fun isn't it?