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Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 Phone Catches Fire on Southwest Plane (theverge.com)
After learning about faulty battery issues in its Galaxy Note 7 smartphone, Samsung said it will offer its existing customers a safe, replacement unit. It appears the replacement unit also suffers from the same issue. Jordan Golson, reporting for The Verge: Southwest Airlines flight 944 from Louisville to Baltimore was evacuated this morning while still at the gate because of a smoking Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphone. All passengers and crew exited the plane via the main cabin door and no injuries were reported, a Southwest Airlines spokesperson told The Verge. More worryingly, the phone in question was a replacement Galaxy Note 7, one that was deemed to be safe by Samsung. The Verge spoke to Brian Green, owner of the Note 7, on the phone earlier today and he confirmed that he had picked up the new phone at an AT&T store on September 21st. A photograph of the box shows the black square symbol that indicates a replacement Note 7 and Green said it had a green battery icon.A spokesperson for Southwest Airlines said, "prior to the Southwest Airlines Flight 994 departing from Louisville for Baltimore, a customer reported smoke emitting from an electronic device. All customers and crew deplaned safely via the main cabin door. Customers will be accommodated on other Southwest flights to their final destinations. Safety is always our top priority at Southwest and we encourage our customers to comply with the FAA Pack Safe Guidelines."
just put it out with one of the snakes.
Table-ized A.I.
Samsung marketing must be on fire after every US airline on every flight asks passengers to put away their Galaxies. You couldn't possibly increase brand awareness and establish lasting image more than that.
Somehow Apple is to blame for all of this, I can feel it in my Android phone.
Never were tested for operation at full power running multiple things in fast-changing environments where the signals keep changing rapidly.
Stresses the battery, which reacts differently due to the reduced cabin pressure at higher elevation.
Basic physics. Or at least it was during my Engineering Physics courses this year.
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Green’s Note 7 is in the hands of the Louisville Fire Department’s arson unit for investigation. He has already replaced it with an iPhone 7.
on commercial aircraft!
Your devices must be off at all times in flight and in the provided fire proof box
What?
One smoking phone battery and:
* The plane is evacuated.
* The flight is cancelled.
What?
How would it not be enough to fling the phone out the door and carry on?
do people have cameras ready, and immediately photograph something that caught fire, and the box it came in which was curiously brought along on the flight, for immediate publishing on the Internet? It seems as if the whole idea was to create even more bad press for the biggest foreign competitor in the U.S. phone market.
Any chance that these failures were caused by nefarious activity on a nearby roof? Lets get Elon Musk and his crack team of Twitter followers on the case.
Won't be long until devices are not allowed on planes due to being a fire hazzard....
While we're at it can someone please pin a bunch of phone fires on the lack of a microSD slot and 3.5mm jack? Please?
This should be seized as an opportunity to lobby for mandatory removeable/replaceable batteries. "Think of the children!"
Really though it would just be great to force these companies to make maintainable, repairable, expandable devices.
Samsung won't be able to confiscate and hide the phone now. It will go straight to the NTSB.
The phone was putting out a goodly amount of smoke, the smell of which would have to be professionally cleaned from the whole plane or most of the people in the SEALED CABIN would have gotten really sick from it.
Not to mention the carpet AND subfloor were charred, further contributing to residual smell and smoke.
Also how exactly would *you* have chucked it out the "door" - the emergency door which means the plane is not flying anywhere anyway? What door exactly????
What no-one ever told you is the magic smoke is also toxic...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If someone in a trench coat inside an alley offers to sell you a Samsung Toilet for an amazing price, run away. You do not want to own an exploding toilet.
Owner: New phone who d-OH GOD IT'S ON FIRE!
Friend: Frank? I told you not to sleep with that floozy but nooOOOooo. Well now you got the herp.
Owner: IT'S MELTING MY FLESH!
Friend: Welcome to the club, buddy.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
non-smoking now?
NSA contractor read, "We need a Samsung explode". NSA still waiting for it's exploit.
Let's see, to delouse is to remove lice from hair. To decapitate is to remove the head (latin: capit). To defoliate is to remove leaves (latin: follium). But to "deplane" is to get off of a plane. Did we derun of sayoids in the English speakism? Or are the previous sayoids de-languaged by some thinly-neurated jargon multiman?
I had a flash back of Indiana Jones throwing a poor Nazi out of a blimp... saying "No ticket!"
Just replace with "He had a Note 7"
It has the worst record of (im)proper aircraft maintenance since Jet Blue or ValuJet so I would expect this to happen. Expect more. Many more. These things will blow you . . . out of the sky!
Buy Apple. Fly United. And Be safe!
I'm not really interested in Samsung phones - I've always thought them thoroughly lacking in some important areas (design, UI) - but I have to say this whole batteries-on-fire thing is some spectacular PR disaster for the only true competitor to Apples iPhone line.
Kinda makes me feel sorry for this company. AFAIHH the entire nation of South Korea is suffering with them.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
All commercial aircraft should have a strengthened, heat-sinked, airtight metal pouch that can be used to snuff out burning mobile devices when lithium batteries go rogue.
that airplanes avoid. seems they don't want the seams and rivets to corrode, for some silly reason.
you can pull a car over and get out if it starts falling apart. not so an airliner. no curb.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
People carry too much crap on flights. Laptops, Phones, Tablets, etc.
People need to declutter.
You don't need your phone everywhere you go, just rent a phone at your destination for a small fee.
You don't need you laptop everywhere you go, just rent one at your destination for a small fee.
Every phone already has cloud storage, I don't see why people can't simply arrive at their destination, pop in their SIM card, and have all their files downloaded to a secure rental phone.
People already essentially rent their phones, this just carries the concept further.
Same with PC's. They are commodity devices. Just rent one at your destination for a small fee.
Battery supplier claims the problem is an outside heat source, not the battery. Samsung has not made public any testing. To "fix" the issue Samsung blamed the battery and released a software fix to reduce the heat. My guess is it is a design flaw where they eliminated heat shielding to save weight and cost. A board redesign would be a substantial cost. Unfortunately, I have no proof. Battery supplier is Amperex Technology Limited (ATL) Headquartered in Hong Kong, Manufactured in China. Samsung phone manufacturing is in Korea.
Samsung should just go into military contracts... imagine if all their washers/dryers/phones/TVs/etc exploded at the same time. You could win a war easily...
We call it "Campfire!"
and they will need to reinstall seat back tv's. On UA they have wifi with lot's of free movies and tv shows
you can't open the door in flight the presser is to high
some airports have the auto seat cover rolls. Like ORD
... when Steve Jobs was CEO.
You can now play GTA V using the Samsung Note 7 as an improvised hand grenade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Jobs umbrage at Eric Schmidt for Google adapting iOS ideas in Android
What ? Because Apple actually managed to bring something new which wasn't in countless predecessors in the PDA space ?
I'm genuinely curious. I remember the big noise Apple made around the iPhone, but all I could personally think was "well, somebody has bolted a phone/modem to my Palm. Big deal".
The only details I found of note is that the iPhone went for a capacitive touch screen - similar to laptop's touchpad, enabling multi-touch, but making impossible to make precise strokes [thus no graffiti/handwriting, no sketching, etc.] - whereas any of the other keyboard-less PDA of the time where all resistive touch screens - only one finger at a time to push the button, but if you use a stylus, you can draw extremely precise sketches, or use handwriting-/drawn symbols- based input.
I couldn't in fact any other thing that the iPhone provided that wasn't provided already on PDA.
Was rather the opposite: back then the iPhone wasn't very open to hacker/devs/community (at the beginning, it was "webapps" only).
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Fact is, more than 6,000 kids died in the eight years before lawn darts were banned. Now, is it worth banning just to save 763 lives a year?
Out of which population, what are the other causes of death and at which rate ?
In a big enough sample you could even find significant deaths caused by "improper use of handkerchief".
So put those death in relation with the rest.
If you reach the conclusion that "at 20% of all kids' death, this is the third most dangerous activity in this age group" (similar to deaths by car crashes or cardiovascular disease in adults) - yes, introducing a ban, or at least imposing new security regulations would be a nice idea leading to improvement.
If you reach the conclustion that "this only represent 0.1% of all deaths, and is number 143 in the list of all death causes" (similar to deaths by lightning strike or terrorism in developed western countries), you're just wasting resources (though it sucks for those 0.1% kids, there are definitely more urgent matters)
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Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is Apple sabotage.
Waiting for the next fire after the next replacement.
Well, for starters, just how much does it cost to ground an airliner, find alternate airliner, repair and fix airliner?
How much will it cost in sales?
Though, it's cheap compared to the lives that might have been lost.
Should people bring lithium batteries on a plane at all?
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
Opening, maybe (if the safety is defeated). Closing it again without getting thrown out may be more difficult.
I was on a domestic flight on Japan Airlines yesterday and they specifically called out the Note 7 before takeoff.
the old "but something else is worse" fallacy.
It's not a question of "worse". It's all about deaths. You can't be "worse dead than dead". The issue is the same: you're dead.
It's a question about numbers and "should I give a fuck about them".
There's a difference between something that has claimed less than 10 deaths since the dawn of humanity, and something that is likely to claim the life of nearly 50% of all people you've met in your life.
For the people themselves, it's all the same : they're dead anyway. No one is worse than anyone else, they are all in the same situation, as bas as it can gets.
It's for organising something.
If you're going to introduce drastic measures that will require people to completely change their habits and lifestyle, and will prevent them from doing some activities for ever, it'd better be worth.
It's a "cost" vs. "benefit" analysis.
If the cost is high (making some everyday task unbearably annoying, banning for ever some activities, etc..) the benefit ought to be a bit more significant than "prevents 1 death out of trillion" (e.g: chance of dying following a direct meteor impact)
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There's a difference of design and purpose of these object.
Lawn darts are basically like scissors.
Lawn darts have a pointy bit, that might get dangerous when use unsupervised.
But they have a use: they are toys, designed for play. Most of people will use it to play, most people will be successful at playing without getting hurt.
(Just like scissors have a sharp edge that could get people hurt. But scissors are extremely useful tools, so they won't get banned)
A kid with a bazooka doesn't serve any purpose. A bazooka is a weapon designed to bring destruction and/or death.
Though some extremely creative (or deranged kid) might be succesful at designing a fun game around one, that's not their typical use.
(Same also why some people, specially people living in the safer parts of the world like me, don't really see the point of needing to own guns).
That's why you're likely to find very few people complaining about the ban on giving their kids bazookas, whereas you'll constantly see people complaining when some random toy they've used to play with when they were kids is suddenly considered too much dangerous and gets banned (like Kinder Suprise chocolate eggs).
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