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WikiLeaks Publishes Cryptic UFO Emails Sent To Clinton Campaign From Former Blink 182 Singer (gizmodo.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: The former lead singer of Blink 182, Tom DeLonge, has publicly admitted to his obsession with UFOs -- but that still doesn't explain why he was sending two cryptic messages about alien spacecrafts to Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta, as the Wall Street Journal reported earlier today. The former rockstar's UFO emails became public in the latest Wikleaks dump, published earlier this month. DeLonge, who is best known for his shitty guitar riffs and vocals in songs like "What's My Age Again," emailed Podesta at least twice from his personal account, urging him to meet in person so he could introduce Podesta to high-level officials (presumably with info about UFOs). Here's a small taste of one of the messages: "I would like to bring two very 'important' people out to meet you in DC. I think you will find them very interesting, as they were principal leadership relating to our sensitive topic. Both were in charge of most fragile divisions, as it relates to Classified Science and DOD topics. Other words, these are A-Level officials. Worth our time, and as well the investment to bring all the way out to you. I just need 2 hours from you." In another email, DeLonge said he's been working with someone named General McCasland, and explained some of the General's public comments. The email is rather strange, given that there's no specific request made or really any context at all for the message: "He mentioned he's a 'skeptic,' he's not.... He just has to say that out loud, but he is very, very aware -- as he was in charge of all of the stuff. When Roswell crashed, they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. General McCasland was in charge of that exact laboratory up to a couple years ago." It's unclear if Podesta ever responded to the messages, but he has shown interest in UFOs in the past. When he stepped down from his role as a senior advisor to President Barack Obama, Podesta tweeted, "Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files. #thetruthisstilloutthere cc: @NYTimesDowd." The famous tweet now appears under the name of Obama's new senior advisor Brian Deese.

205 comments

  1. Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    And Make The Aliens Pay For It!

    Trump 2016!

    1. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'll be yuuuge!

      (literally)

    2. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      I wonder if anyone has told Trump that the human & drug smugglers already use tunnels.

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    3. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Mashiki · · Score: 0

      Likely, though a lot of that is easy to detect if you have the sensors for it. Keep in mind that the US border across Mexico doesn't, and the Obama administration heavily leans on ICE to stop guards from actually doing anything.

      Anyway, what I find interesting is how this is a story on /. but something like the NYC election commissioner coming out and saying that there's serious voter fraud going on, with groups busing people around and that voter ID is a good thing isn't up.

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    4. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Yes, which is why the new wall will have seismic sensors to detect tunneling.

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    5. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny then that everyone is calling Trump literally Hitler, then.

      Democratic God-king FDR put Japanese Americans--US citizens mind you--into fucking concentration camps. Talk about hypocrisy.

    6. Re: Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both Hillary and Obama voted in 2006 to build a wall between us and Mexico.

      They built it. It's there.

      But Hitler nazi trump xenophobic racist racist raaaaciiissssttttttttt!!!

    7. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      A fact you never hear news on is Mexico's concern with its northern border. Mexico may be happy to export its poor across it, but it is deeply concerned that in return it's importing American guns.

    8. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Z80a · · Score: 1

      Well, some of the "exports" they have are also quite awful for mexico, like women trafficking, "brain drain", people that come from other countries and frak up mexico before moving on to the US...

      Mexico would love this wall as long they had control over it.

    9. Re: Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, wrong, wrong, wrong. Trump did not say that. He specifically said that if aliens exist he will grab them by the ...

    10. Re: Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Maritz · · Score: 1

      But Hitler nazi trump xenophobic racist

      Yep. Mysogynist too. You forgot that one.

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    11. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it'll happen again. After the 2018 riots, a mosquito-borne form of ebola will spread like wildfire. This will give the CDC the authorization to activate the FEMA concentration camps.

      You can vote one of two ways. While Clinton was elected in my worldline, I've received some data that there are worldlines within the Stein's limit where Trump is elected. Clinton managed to somewhat contain the disease, but frustrated Trump supporters undermined her efforts after BRICS switched away from the US dollar, weakening US forces, mostly the National Guard. The National Guard was preoccupied with quelling what may have become the short-lived Second American Revolution in the worldline Titor reported. Under Trump, the scenario is somewhat different but the end result in the same. Trump is unable to effectively contain the disease. He uses the CDC's authority to activate the FEMA concentration camps, but then he blames the disease on Moslems and Mexicans. The Battle of Anchorage still happens on schedule while hospitals overflow with the sick and dying.

      The world will be cleansed in fire. The walk to the gas station will be for your own good.

    12. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyway, what I find interesting is how this is a story on /. but something like the NYC election commissioner coming out and saying that there's serious voter fraud going on, with groups busing people around and that voter ID is a good thing isn't up.

      It's not on Slashdot because it's not news. Everyone who lives anywhere near a major city knows it goes on, Chicago doesn't even make any effort to hide it. The people who live there are not concerned with making political decisions themselves, they just like complaining about things and blaming Republicans for everything. So the lazy residents of those cities can avoid the burden of voting, knowing that some beggar is being paid in dangerous, addictive substances to vote the "proper" way at least once in each and every voting district the city has.

      The people who are against voter IDs hold that stance and blatantly lie about the voter fraud when asked because it benefits them directly. The most common such benefit is that they know someone else is taking the responsibility of outvoting the "backward" residents of the rest of the state, freeing up at least half an hour for more of their own plans.

    13. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Make The Taxpaying Working Class Pay For It!

      Hillary 2016!

    14. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by epyT-R · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think your optical drive needs realignment.

    15. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail

    16. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We spared no expense.

    17. Re: Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ARF ARF ARF ARF

    18. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ouch! That's nasty of Veritas to out someone like that. That election commissioner is embedded in the Democratic power structure. He privately reveals that he is secretly ethical, and Veritas videos his admission and puts it up on Youtube. Well, his career is dead and over.

      Outing crooks being crooks is one thing. Outing honest people for being honest, when that will surely cost them their careers, is something else.

    19. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by neoritter · · Score: 1

      Yes, Trump has mentioned building the wall into the ground...

    20. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Sounds like something that would be easy to break up with a little law enforcement intervention, and would be generally likely to run into felony-level problems. If the police and precinct workers are turning a blind eye, there's bigger problems than voter ID would solve.

      I'm not necessarily against voter ID. I'm against every implementation of voter ID I've seen in the US, which usually comes with ways to prevent people from voting, either built into the proposal (the Minnesota proposed constitutional amendment would have made absentee ballots very difficult to do legally) or in other actions (like shutting down places to get licenses in areas that might vote Democrat).

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    21. Re: Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is an awesome and surprisingly comprehensible rant! +1 mod up if I was in the correct universe

    22. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Outing crooks being crooks is one thing. Outing honest people for being honest, when that will surely cost them their careers, is something else.

      If he's unwilling to push for reform while being at the top of his position and in a position of power. He's no different then a crook, or in truth he has no problem with it because it supports his ideology(and that of his party in power).

      Keep in mind that several states have now on-going investigations. Probably the largest right now is Indiana, which is investigating every county and fraudulent voter ID's have been linked to democrat linked or backed organizations.

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    23. Re: Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by JustBoo · · Score: 1

      But Hitler nazi trump xenophobic racist

      Yep. Mysogynist too. You forgot that one.

      Yet not a mass murderer or psychopathic compulsive liar that kills people who leak DNC emails. Funny how the left project what Killary actually is onto Trump. The uneducated (by design) Demo voters lap up the lies like they have time and again over 60 years. They never learn, by design.

    24. Re:Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it'll happen again. After the 2018 riots, a mosquito-borne form of ebola will spread like wildfire. This will give the CDC the authorization to activate the FEMA concentration camps.

      You can vote one of two ways. While Clinton was elected in my worldline, I've received some data that there are worldlines within the Stein's limit where Trump is elected. Clinton managed to somewhat contain the disease, but frustrated Trump supporters undermined her efforts after BRICS switched away from the US dollar, weakening US forces, mostly the National Guard. The National Guard was preoccupied with quelling what may have become the short-lived Second American Revolution in the worldline Titor reported. Under Trump, the scenario is somewhat different but the end result in the same. Trump is unable to effectively contain the disease. He uses the CDC's authority to activate the FEMA concentration camps, but then he blames the disease on Moslems and Mexicans. The Battle of Anchorage still happens on schedule while hospitals overflow with the sick and dying.

      The world will be cleansed in fire. The walk to the gas station will be for your own good.

      I don't know if you're being facetious or not, but I find a lot of what you've postulated disturbingly probable. Any mosquito borne plague is probable given the right circumstances.. which wouldn't so likely be riots but environmentally induced flooding from tsunamis, which I firmly believe (well, know, but for sake of agument will limit myself to "believe") will occur in the next year or two. The stagnant pools of water in the heat of late spring/summer are a disaster if a mosquito borne pathogen is present...Let's pray it does not happen, for something like this can simply not be stopped by human endeavours, at least none I am aware of. Perhaps genetic engineering will look like a much more desirable option to folks then. Or not. Who knows?
      Sorry bout peeing in all yer cornflakes!

  2. That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"? Afterall, they probably accomplished more in their lives than the shill who wrote this article.

    Captcha: Frigid, just like Hillary.

    1. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Pascoea · · Score: 0

      I read that three times, first time I read "shitty", second time "shifty", then after your comment I went and ready it again... it definitely says "shitty". That's funny as hell.

    2. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Holy shit, me too! I read "shifty" a couple of times, but after AC's comment I checked and it actually does read "shitty". The thing is, though, that in the original Gizmodo article it *also* reads "shitty".

    3. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A summary in a discussion website is not the right place to insert colorful qualifiers. That entertainment is for the comments to provide. --Editor 101, chapter 13.

    4. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Additionally, "What's my age again?" is one of the few Blink 182 songs not to feature his horrible vocals.

    5. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, nothing like trying to be edgy by calling what was at one time a very popular band "shitty". Now, I'm not going to say their music was objectively good, but I was a fan, and thought they were okay. And typically when people go off talking about other peoples musical tastes are shit, they're usually in to non-mainstream music which most sane people just refer to as noise. But most other people at least understand the adage "different folks, different strokes" and though I may not care for it, I can respect other people that do.

      And yes, calling them shitty is disrespecting people who do like them.

    6. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by cloud.pt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Being a huge fan of Blink 182 (in my top 10 bands), I can say the riffs are simple, which some might define as shitty if what they appreciate is sheer technical ability. And if have you ever seen them live, be it in person or on through a TV show where they actually singing and playing, you wouldn't even thought of writing that comment. I have actually seen them live and it's worse than shitty, especially Tom. One of the worst live bands ever, Sex Pistols-level. Mark's instrument being the bass and his low tone might be more forgiving, but Tom is buttfck bad bad live. Travis is decent, after all he's one of the best punk drummers of all time and any genre overall (for obvious reasons, punk might be one of the hardest genre's for the drums).

      Yet I love their songs for sheer production, melody and the silly, comical, yet awkwardly logical lyrics. And most things in life are silly. Many internet trolls have higher IQ or even academic credentials than some PhDs, yet they love to be stupid. Art, beauty, taste are very subjective, and that's part of life's charm. The trolls are just people with different interests than ethical/moral-abiding people.

      In any case, I'd still take a live ticket in my country (where they rarely come/came) than a rare CD/vinyl release any day (unless it comes with concert tickets, or I can resell it to the price of 20 tickets). Not only cuz I love them and the opportunity to see them live is rare, but also because of the comedy in their concerts, in which their shitty live act plays a big part.

    7. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"? Afterall, they probably accomplished more in their lives than the shill who wrote this article.

      Captcha: Frigid, just like Hillary.

      Because, unlike UFOs, we can substantiate the shitty guitar rifs

    8. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"?

      Yes

    9. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being a huge fan of Blink 182 (in my top 10 bands), (...).

      Oh, boy, millenials [rolls eyes] . Oh, What a lucky man I was to live in the time of Led Zeppelin [And ELP too].

    10. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      And if have you ever seen them live, be it in person or on through a TV show where they actually singing and playing, you wouldn't even thought of writing that comment. I have actually seen them live and it's worse than shitty, especially Tom. One of the worst live bands ever, Sex Pistols-level. Mark's instrument being the bass and his low tone might be more forgiving, but Tom is buttfck bad bad live.

      Man, that's the funniest fan written description ever!

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    11. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      I can tell you're stuck in the past, grandpa, cause millenials aren't generally interested in Blink 182, whose most successful years were in the late 90s. You don't see toddlers listening to punk rock, and when they're of the age to start getting interested, they'll usually go for something current.

    12. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you mean ELO (Electric Light Orchestra) or ELP (Emerson, Lake and Palmer)?

    13. Re: That's a nice smoke screen you got there by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      It's the sort of comment which should be removed by the Slashdot edito... never mind

      For the last couple of days the stories have been covered by an ad on my phone, has anyone else been seeing this?

    14. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      I am reminded again of why music reviewers love video game reviewers. (Because up until video game reviews, music reviews were the lowest form of journalism.)

    15. Re: That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have seen that randomly. I just refresh and the ad goes back to it's normal spot.

    16. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you mean ELO (Electric Light Orchestra) or ELP (Emerson, Lake and Palmer)?

      ELP, but ELO used to be ok too.

    17. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      By what standards? The standards of a society that saw fit to reward blink 182?

      I think it's the standards we should question..

    18. Re: That's a nice smoke screen you got there by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I messed up the link in the previous post: this sort of thing.

    19. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DeLonge, who is best known for his shitty guitar riffs and WHINY vocals

      FTFY

    20. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yes, calling them shitty is disrespecting people who do like them.

      So you feel micro-aggressed. Poor you.

    21. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Captcha: Frigid, just like Hillary.

      That's "Mrs. President", to you.

    22. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, Hoppus has a decent voice. DeLonge not so much.

    23. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being a huge fan of Blink 182 (in my top 10 bands), I can say the riffs are simple, which some might define as shitty

      e=mc2 is simple. What would he call that?

    24. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by rainmouse · · Score: 1

      A summary in a discussion website is not the right place to insert colorful qualifiers. That entertainment is for the comments to provide. --Editor 101, chapter 13.

      Agreed.

      It would be more useful to keep personal opinions in a summary away and instead perhaps provide some links to the actual emails in question instead rather than an article talking about someone elses opinions on them; But hey reading and forming your own opinions is so unfashionable these days.

      https://wikileaks.org/podesta-...
      https://wikileaks.org/podesta-...
      https://wikileaks.org/podesta-...

    25. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can tell you're stuck in the past, grandpa, cause millenials aren't generally interested in Blink 182, whose most successful years were in the late 90s. You don't see toddlers listening to punk rock, and when they're of the age to start getting interested, they'll usually go for something current.

      Millennials are those who came of age in the mid-late '90s, i.e. were in or entering their teens. So they weren't toddlers.

      Actually, I recall Blink 182 playing a surprise gig in the early 2000s at The Casbah in San Diego, and commenting that the 21-year-olds there were "the oldest audience we've played for in years."

    26. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"?

      I actually quite like the opening riff from "What's My Age Again?"

      But that's probably only because they stole it from The Primitives' "Crash."

    27. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      Clearly he meant schwifty but for some reason had autocorrect on.

    28. Re: That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol punk is not considered a difficult genre for drumming

    29. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Personal attacks are how you distinguish real journalists from the wannabes like Anonymous Coward, bloggers, and cable news channels.

    30. Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      An Anonymous Coward fight! Get the popcorn!

  3. his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by OzPeter · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Biased much?

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    1. Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "peaking at number two on Billboard's Modern Rock Tracks chart for ten weeks" -Wiki

      Is shitty the new word for cool?

    2. Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well they couldn't spend the entire article talking about how he's a mouthbreathing maniac who believes he's in touch with "A-level" military personnel from Roswell. There's too many of those out there as it is.

      Might as well throw in that he's a shitty musician as well, otherwise the guy just seems so one-dimensional. The article could just have easily been titled, "Hack Musician Needs to Give Up the Hallucinogens."

    3. Re: his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not then throw in a reference to Hillary needing to be in jail?

    4. Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah, I read shifty the first time round!

    5. Re: his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep crying about bias, Trump.

    6. Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Typically, what's considered cool and popular by the majority is insipid to those with half a braincell.

    7. Re: his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it wouldn't be on topic.. However, it is a good topic to discuss.. She's guilty of things that would land the rest of us in federal pound-us-in-the-ass prison..

    8. Re: his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      an unbiased media is in all of our interests, even if we don't agree politically.

    9. Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals by Barny · · Score: 1

      I am so sorry to hear you only have half a brain-cell. Although it is promising to see you able to post comments to slashdot.

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  4. moral of the story.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't email presidential candidates when you're stoned.

    1. Re:moral of the story.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for clearing that up, Mr. DeLonge. I think we've all learned a valuable lesson.

  5. Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

    make so many people lose their grip on reality? Whether it is thinking we all live in a computer simulation or UFOs are scouting the planet, or that the earth is really flat, there seems to be a connection between making too much money and losing your mind.

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    1. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by CODiNE · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They either believe they are so much better than everyone else and they've got it all figured out, the universe loves them and they're blessed, or just incredibly lucky.

      None of those is exactly a recipe for great mental health.

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    2. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Gilgaron · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think needing to concern yourself with money to fulfill your basic needs grounds you in reality a bit compared to living off of some giant nest egg managed by your accountant.

    3. Re: Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can prove the Earth is not flat.
      But, how can you prove something has never been seen? And where's the proof that we aren't in a simulation? As soon as you got proof or even later a restore from an earlier snapshot would undo your work.

    4. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by RandomSurfer314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It really doesn't, you're just a victim of selection bias.

    5. Re: Why does being rich and famous... by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      We can prove the Earth is not flat. But, how can you prove something has never been seen? And where's the proof that we aren't in a simulation? As soon as you got proof or even later a restore from an earlier snapshot would undo your work.

      Same place as the proof that I'm not really a space baby and you're all part of my dreams and when I wake up I'll go back to munching on stars. You can't prove a negative.

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    6. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      make so many people lose their grip on reality?

      It's likely drugs or medications, it's the only reasonable explanation. Ask yourself, what's the most insane thing you thought has been true while on some pain medication or hypnotic drug for whatever. Now consider you've got lots of money, and can afford to grease a doctors palms to get you a steady supply of something that'll make you feel great, all the time. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

      Anyone who's been on pain meds at a high dose will tell you all the fucked up stuff that they've either done or thought of. And anyone who's taken some form of barbiturate(was the drug of choice until the 80's when coke became popular) will tell you the same thing.

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    7. Re: Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because of all the drugs and anti-ageing craps that they pay vast amounts for.
      Mixing un-tested chemical cocktails in the human body is not a good idea,but at least most of their intake is self inflicted..
      The rest of us just have to put up with the chemical mix of rubbish that we are conceived surrounded by and then have inflicted on us for the rest of our lives...

    8. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by RandomSurfer314 · · Score: 0

      Wow, you've really taught me a lesson here. Such a smart and witty reply! Is there a newsletter I can subscribe to?

    9. Re: Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have really lame dreams, space baby.

    10. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assorted reason. First off as someone else said, selection bias. Crazy poor people don't make the news, not do sane rich people. Secondly, free time, rich retired people have way too much free time and resources which can lead to something turning into an obsession. Thirdly, vultures, rich people with a well know interest will attract more confidence men and such. Take the "general" from the email, i would assume he milked tens of thousands out of Tom. The volume of people wanting to share a story will re-enforce the forming obsession.

    11. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Gilgaron said!

    12. Re: Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could be drugs. Or the drugs could be there because they always had problems. Wanting to be rich and famous seems like a mental disorder to me. Insecurity and paranoia to be specific.

    13. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      You stated nothing, you offered no information. You just claimed I was biased. How is that intelligent or meaningful? Please, at least pretend you have something meaningful to say.

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    14. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      They did no such thing, you just interpreted their comment as a personal attack for some reason. You feel like being rich and famous makes "so many people" lose grip on reality, but the truth is that most people who're rich and famous are normal and fine, it's just that you don't hear about them. Hence, selection bias.

    15. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know plenty of anti-evidence people who aren't rich and famous.

    16. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by imatter · · Score: 1

      Tom DeLonge has a documentary project called Sekret Machines, so it is probably less about losing your mind and more about making money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    17. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 0

      Well, considering how many stories there have been about rich people showing signs of delusion, I am sticking with my point. You can't say I have selection bias based on no information whatsoever. That is off topic completely and you know it. Now Musk and Bezos say they are going to have a personal race to Mars. Again, it sounds delusional to me. Oh, sorry, that must just be selection bias. There is a strong tendency among some posters at /. to complain about the commenter, and bring up selection bias or the Dunning Kruger effect rather that sticking to the point of the discussion. I know it makes some people feel superior to say such things, but it is just a soft form of ad hominem, and it shows you have nothing to say about the actual discussion..

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    18. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      And considering how much information is out there about how money affects people's behavior and rationality, I think my case is strong.

      http://www.livescience.com/112...

      https://www.researchgate.net/p...

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      http://nymag.com/news/features...

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    19. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by sootman · · Score: 2

      Plenty of people are nuts and you don't know them. You know about the famous nuts BECAUSE THEY'RE FAMOUS. There are literally thousands of famous actors, musicians, and athletes, and it only takes a few visible nuts to make it seem like there are a WHOLE LOT of nuts.

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    20. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they are overwhelmingly democrats.

    21. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      Citations please. The research I have read indicates that lots of money makes people less empathic, less social and more irrational. And I was not talking about mental illness as you know, I was talking about delusional thinking. But go ahead and defend wealthy people without offering any information or citations.

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    22. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      make so many people lose their grip on reality? Whether it is thinking we all live in a computer simulation or UFOs are scouting the planet, or that the earth is really flat, there seems to be a connection between making too much money and losing your mind.

      Good drugs cost money.

    23. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      As others have said, selection bias. You hear about the rich people who are delusional, you don't hear about the non-rich people who are delusional.

      I had a close friend who suffered from delusions of some kind. (I would guess paranoid schizophrenia, but i'm not a doctor.) At the start it was just that she thought people were spying on her (or at least that was all she would admit to at the time.) Eventually this developed into a belief that the government was bouncing signals off of tesla coils on the moon to put thoughts in her head. She tried telling people about this on the web and calling people she thought might listen to her, and tried to get me to help her in those endeavors. But she wasn't rich or powerful so no one except her close friends listened to what she had to say so her voice wasn't amplified so you never heard about it.

      The only differences i expect that being wealthy makes is:
      1: You're not likely to end up homeless on the street shouting at passers-by
      2: If you want you can pay to have your voice amplified.
      3: Even if you don't pay people will gossip about what you say, probably snickering about it the whole time
      4: You're probably a little less likely to believe in a grand conspiracy about the rich and powerful secretly being in control of everything. (Cause if you think you're rich and powerful it probably makes it harder to believe in a conspiracy about your peers being in charge of everything.)

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    24. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was all UFO before they got rich and famous. Even wrote a song about it. (I'm guessing it was a the Drugs)

      Called "aliens exist" I think

    25. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by SmokeyRobot · · Score: 0

      You must be the only person in the entire world that can get a grip on reality. Everyone else has to rely on their brain's ability to perceive it. Have you told others about your extraordinary ability?

    26. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Ask yourself, what's the most insane thing you thought has been true while on some pain medication or hypnotic drug for whatever

      I can't think of anything "insane" I ever thought while being on pain meds. In fact, I never noticed much effect at all from pain meds when I've taken them. Similarly, I've never noticed any kind of mental effect or "buzz" from drinking alcohol. Maybe I'm weird...

    27. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      Again, ad hominem. Not one word about the topic. You clearly have nothing of substance to say. But that is not surprising. Can't wait for your next, off topic ad hominem.

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    28. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by g01d4 · · Score: 2

      I'll bite. There's likely a little craziness correlated with the drive that's required to become rich and famous. Multiply this with a little craziness often correlated with 'artists' and then combine this with the ability that wealth provides to shield oneself from the reality checks that the rest of us would otherwise face. Then finally I think you might add a touch of selection bias due to the celebrity that wealth and fame bring and voila.

    29. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Yes but are they in the news?

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    30. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by SmokeyRobot · · Score: 0

      Again? This is my first comment.
      Your original comment is an ad hominem attack on the "rich and famous people" who engage in discussion about ideas you seem to deem unworthy. Seems like you don't like being judged the same way you judge others. That is a double standard.

    31. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      You and the others have provided no proof for your statements. I already gave links, and could give many more that show that money affects people's thinking, their behavior towards others, their empathy and their decision making. These effects are well documented. You and the others only comment was that I had selection bias. You will never win a debate with that approach. You certainly haven't won this debate. So instead of talking about me, how about you talk about the effects or lack thereof of money on people's behavior and reasoning? Nah, you ain't got nothing. Prove me wrong and show me all those citations you have lined up that indicate that money does not have any deleterious effects on people's brains or behavior.

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    32. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 0

      Finally! On topic and useful input. The lack of reality checks is probably key. Rich people are surrounded by yes men and women, and don't get challenged like most people do on a regular basis. Even some people here at /. don't want anything bad said about rich people. So between the lack of being challenged on stupid or crazy ideas, along with the narcissism and egos, you have a recipe for delusional or irrational thinking. I don't think they are crazy, I think their thinking abilities have been skewed by too much money, too much power, too little honest input from those around them and too much free time. Like Musk's hyperloop. It just isn't practical for sending people from one place to another, just to get their a little faster. What is so horrible about sitting on a high speed train for 2 or 3 hours.

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    33. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drugs, isolation, and confirmation bias.

      Drugs tend to knock down inhibitors that our brains have. There is a reason they call vodka liquid panty peeler.

      Isolation because you are 'famous' every time you step out the door there is a fleet of people trying to get a picture of you. So you hide in your bus or put a few guards between you and them on an estate with 15ft walls and a half mile walk to the nearest sidewalk that is in front of your property. So now you are not very inhibited and start coming up with wild ideas because you are not really talking to people anymore. "I think the ants are trying to tell me something in their structure of their habitat". We as people tend to look for pasterns and will find them wherever we look.

      Confirmation bias. So now you have this wild idea you came up with. "Aliens are visiting large ant mounds in the area and controlling where they eat to encourage the earth fauna that they are going to harvest in 1000 years". So you see a picture of a meteor it becomes a possible alien. Some dude comes out and says 'It moved like nothing I have ever seen and I have been a pilot for 20 years' You feel it could be aliens. You surf the net and find a group of people who do the same thing as you! You are not alone anymore!

      That is how you go down that rabbit hole.

    34. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I was on morphine in the hospital once, and became convinced that the hospital was actually operated by tiny gnomes, and that the humans were just there as a cover.

    35. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are not uncommon either but pushing forward an idea you are not totally informed on either.

      My wife was helping one of her friends who had a boob job. The girl was totally jacked out on pain meds. You could tell her something and 2 mins later she would ask the same question. It actually hurt their friendship. The girl thought my wife had not fed the girl for 3 days, disappeared for hours at a time, held her hostage, and stole all of her meds. When the truth was my wife made sure the girl was eating takeout steaks and lobster (I delivered them) and was helping her with everything, and not leaving (hence me helping deliver food), and the meds were taken or she wouldn't have been jacked out. The girl was so blitzed she couldn't remember anything. Our brains will start making things up to fill in the gaps.

      I've never noticed any kind of mental effect or "buzz" from drinking alcohol
      Take a few pills and you *might* feel a bit 'good' and that's it. Take a handful and you will be geeked out. Drink a beer and you might get a buzz. I used to get one from a single beer. Now it takes 3-4 hard drinks to get the same effect and I drink a little maybe once or twice a year. My body changed at some point. I'm not worried about it as it was not a big thing in my life in the first place. Trust me if you dump enough alcohol into someone they will sometimes act oddly but not always. Others can act a cool and collected as they normally are another person will spill every emotion they ever had. My dad is a functioning alcoholic. One day he is fine the next day he can barely get around in the house. Both times drinking just as much. According to him everything is fine and he only drinks 'once and awhile'. When I have the stack of receipts to prove otherwise.

      Now take my sister. She takes one pain pill and she is ready to throw up her lunch and feels like shit the rest of the day. People react differently to drugs. Doctors are not sure why either.

      Drugs and alcohol are readily available to people with money. As both of those habits are not cheap. They are isolated from 'normal' people and thrown in with a group of people where it is normal to go to work completely coked out drunk. Long term usage of any drug will change who you are. Even something as lightweight as weed will long term change you. Your brain will change for the environment it is in. You can not really trust the people who are taking it to say "no problems" as they do not have a proper reference to evaluate what is going on for them. Our brains will lie to use to tell us everything is fine. Celebrities have a real problem as they usually surround themselves with a cadre of yes men. The yes men may even have the same issues. So it is hard for most celebrities to get a real perspective on things. They have basically hit the lottery in life and now have to hide socially from the rest of us.

    36. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by SmokeyRobot · · Score: 1

      Clearly I can't debate you because you have already debated both sides of the story in your head and with others who are not me. The point of my sarcastic original response is that you have no more grip on reality than others who are rich and famous. Consider a reduction of what we know about ourselves and reality.

      From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
      There is a chain of events to follow, Sherlock Holmes-like, from the red rose you gave your beloved, beginning with everyday reality and reducing it, step by step, to get to the source:
      The sight, smell and texture of a rose (i.e., the experience), reduce to...
      The brain assembling the picture of a rose from various regions dedicated to sight, smell and touch. This reduces to...
      Neurons in each region specifically processing raw data into the qualities of a rose (known technically as qualia). These reduce to...
      The supporting molecular structure that keeps a neuron alive. This reduces to...
      The atoms that compose those molecules. These reduce to...
      The subatomic particles (quanta) that structure atoms. These reduce to...
      The quantum field that gives rise to quanta.
      Science cannot yet explain what happens past this point and where the the source of this quantum field comes from.

      So when you say these people have no grip on reality. I am saying that neither do you. We understand reality through how we interact with it and thereby change it at the same time. That reality seems to exist outside of us in the same way that physicists perform experiments and achieve similar results however people aren't consistent tools of measurement.

      Lack of empathy, poor decision making and faulty can be reduced by other factors such as the assumption of intellectual superiority. I don't suppose you would know anything about that though.

    37. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most likely explanation is that it's a sampling bias. You hear about the crazy things famous people say because more people listen to what famous people say and crazy things are more likely to get repeated because nobody bothers telling their friends about the time a famous person said something completely normal and expected.

      It's also possible that it's caused by fame, as if you like bing famous you need to catch attention every once in a while and saying something crazy is one of the easier was to get some quick attention.

      It probably isn't that famous people believe disproportionately more crazy things than normal people, as normal people believe some pretty crazy things already.

    38. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      I am a neuroscientist by trade and your description of the brain functioning is not particularly accurate nor helpful for the discussion. I was talking about the growing body of scientific literature that shows that money has negative effects on human cognition, everything from risk assessment and risk taking, to empathy toward others. I also maintain that it allows people to live in a fact free bubble even more easily than it is for people of modest means to be fact free. What I don't understand is why you need to keep bringing me into the discussion. Clearly you can't just discuss something without showing your irritation with others who disagree.

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    39. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      You are not uncommon either but pushing forward an idea you are not totally informed on either.

      I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that *other* people don't have real mental effects from drugs and alcohol. I'm just relating my own personal experience that I don't seem to have any for some odd reason. (Yes, I realize this is very tangential to the discussion here.) I'll admit that I've never taken *a lot* of either one, but I've taken plenty of hard pharmaceuticals for various medical procedures: Percocet, codeine, etc. (in the recommended doses).

      Take a few pills and you *might* feel a bit 'good' and that's it.

      I've never even felt that. I feel so little (including pain) that now if I have a procedure I don't even bother taking anything. I'm starting to wonder if I'm living in a simulation...

      Take a handful and you will be geeked out.

      Yeah, I'm not going to take more than the recommended dosage of anything. If I get a medical procedure, it's because I want to get better, not screw up my body with overly-high doses of pharmaceuticals.

      Drink a beer and you might get a buzz.

      I can drink several glasses of wine and not feel anything at all. And I don't regularly consume alcohol either, so it's not from building up a tolerance. And I'm not very heavy either, so it's not from having a huge body weight. Now again, I'll admit I've never drank *a lot* of hard liquor all at once; that seems like a good way to have a really bad time. But even when my wife tried to get me a little a little drunk with several glasses of wine nothing happened. She was disappointed....

      People react differently to drugs.

      Yeah, apparently. They just don't seem to have much effect on me I guess.

    40. Re: Why does being rich and famous... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      You can't prove a negative.

      Of course you can.
      Define your terms such that A and B are mutually exclusive. Proving A proves !B.

    41. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by jxander · · Score: 1

      It doesn't.

      You just don't hear about the poor people who lose their grip on reality.

      Rich people are more visible, so their ridiculous ideas are more visible. Doesn't actually make them more prevalent.

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    42. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Why does being rich and famous...make so many people lose their grip on reality?

      Because (like beauty), having money, power, and/or fame distorts the feedback they get from other people about their ideas. When they say something oddball, they may receive encouragement, rather than discouragement, from people who want them to be attracted and friendly to them, in the hopes of receiving benefits (such as money, beneficial exercise of power, or physical intimacy). Reward their wrong and/or wierd opinions and you can expect them to become more common and more entrenched.

      Then again, there's selection bias in reporting. When somebody rich and/or famous says something ordinary, sane, and obviously common sense, it's not news. When they say something odd, it is news. So most of them may have quite ordinary ideas, but the ones who espouse odd ones get the press. (And for people TRYING to increase their fame, it may be useful to come up with some oddball stuff just to get more press, and thus more free advertisement. B-) )

      Who knows: Though most of their oddball opinions may no more than that, some particular uncommon opinion may happen to be part of how they BECAME rich and/or famous, and thus useful to others. This also makes their off-the-beaten-path sayings newsworthy. (All of them - because the newsie has no idea WHICH ingredient might be the base of the "secret sauce".)

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    43. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by SmokeyRobot · · Score: 1
      My description came from other neuroscientists as I linked so I would be happy to hear something counter to this current understanding of how brains function but for now I will take printed word over yours. I still stand by my point that you have no more grip on reality than those others. I am not entering into the discussion about the effect of money/wealth on behavior as it seems I would be already behind.

      What I don't understand is why you need to keep bringing me into the discussion. Clearly you can't just discuss something without showing your irritation with others who disagree.

      The reason why I kept bringing you into the discussion is that I assume people want to be treated the way they treat others so I was treating you accordingly. Your assumption about me is wrong. I love discussions with people who disagree with me because it opens up perspectives that I have not considered and I have no issue being wrong. Your comments however to myself and others on this thread were condescending and dismissive. That is not conducive to discussion. Maybe that was my fault, I started our conversation in a sarcastic tone which probably derailed it. I apologize for that.

    44. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      Citations please?

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    45. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      You can make your points without reference to me personally, and you know it. Yes, you did start with sarcasm and I accept your apology. I was not trying to be condescending, and I don't think I was. The topic I brought up was why do so many rich people seem to have trouble with reality. I fully understand that many regular (non-wealthy) people have a very poor grip on reality. But you would think that highly successful people with more money than God might be more rational. My contention, and you have provided no evidence to the contrary, is that they often seem to have less of a grip on reality than average people. Take a look at the book 'Dark Money" by Jane Mayer about the Koch family. Clearly, the money had a big effect on their view of the world and their thinking capabilities.

      And believe me, your description of how the brain works is not from any neuroscientists that I have read. In fact, there is no single theory of how the brain functions from a single source. You need to read many, many papers from many sources to even come to a vague notion of how the brain functions. I would be happy to have a fuller discussion with you on that if you are interested. For example, what is your take on the so-called default mode of brain activity and the circuits involved? I would be very interested to hear your opinions on it.

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    46. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citations yourself, for this "research I read"!

      The null hypothesis here is "there is no particular phenomenon of rich and famous people losing their grip on reality, beyond population norms", so isn't the onus is on you? And I don't think it's right to assert that the phenomenon exists, based on news articles that inherently focus on the rich and famous - it's a massive selection bias.

      And actually, don't we need to tie down "losing grip on reality" too? - if I said I was going to put rockets in space, it'd be ludicrous; for Elon Musk, not so crazy. The thing about "we live in a simulation" (mentioned in discussion above) and this UFO thing ... well, yeah, but is it out of normal? And the simulation thing is actually fairly reasonable, although it goes too far to put probabilities on it: was Musk being focused and literal about that? I didn't get the impression this was a serious Scientology-like belief. Is this guy's UFO thing particularly rare? - I got the impression it's common (Google says "A survey from the National Geographic Society in 2012 showed 36% of Americans (around 80 million people) believe UFOs exist."). So none of this sounds exceptional. I can imagine the "losing grip" thing being very hard to study or put useful numbers on.

    47. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by jxander · · Score: 1

      Citations on what? That poor people can be crazy?

      Spend 5 minutes in a wallmart, or check out any of the conspiracy theories on Youtube.

      Rich folks do not have a monopoly on insanity.

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    48. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Been rich and been famous is not the same thing. A lot of famous people have lost all their wealth. Some rich people are not well known.
      To keep wealth it is often good to make contact with the political class. Charity work globally, NGO's with full gov backing.

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    49. Re: Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want an underwater Hyperloop, like in the Riven.

    50. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      I said in several of my posts I was not talking about insanity. Now I know you are not reading what I wrote. You are assuming what I wrote. I am not talking about being insane or having a mental illness. I was saying that having too much money affects people's thinking and behavior in negative ways. I wanted you to provide citations that purport that having huge sums of money does not affect people's reasoning, empathy, risk taking, etc. My original question was why do many really rich people seem to lose touch with reality and start saying and believing absurd things.

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    51. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by jxander · · Score: 1

      You are correct: I have not read everything you wrote, but I've read enough here to know that you're full of shit.

      I don't need to provide citations for anything. You have made the claim that "having too much money affects people's thinking and behavior in negative ways," so the burden of proof is on you. When you make the claim, you need to support that claim.

      You need to prove that Tom DeLong being a nutter is related to his wealth, and not simply just a random nutter who also happens to have money. Or at least prove that among the wealthy, there is a higher incidence of mental issues (while correcting for wealth's ability to buy a proper diagnosis)

      Side note: I went to High School with Tom, at least until he got expelled, and he was a basket case from day 1. I have no reason to believe that his wealth caused this insanity. It only gave him a taller platform from which to be heard.

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    52. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You haven't been on the right pain meds.

      I had major surgery back in January this year to carve out a stage 4 bowel tumour. Coming out of it I was put on Fentamyl, Oramorph, shitloads of codeine, that weird anti-emetic that looks like ten minutes of LSD, and fuck knows what else.

      I can safely say that what I experienced for the first four weeks or so, until the drug dose dropped off, bore no relation to reality. It was machine elves territory all the way. And I'll say this as a person who has done a significant portion of recreational pharmaceuticals - I've never been as disconnected from the world as I was during this period.

      For instance. The ward I was in was a regular 6-bed UK hospital ward. By day it had huge vaulted ceilings like something you'd imagine out or Arkham. By night it went subterranean (don't ask me how, it was chems) and was patrolled by german soldiers with MP-5s. They were nurses, but
      I couldn't recognise this. At one stage I was convinced beyond all doubt that I was a bit actor in the 1960s Brit series "The Likely Lads" - my colour perception went for about six hours.

      The one thing I had was my experience with acid and the knowledge that it was my brain taking the piss. It grates a bit during a decent acid session (about six to eight hours). Four weeks makes it pretty hard to hang onto that thought.

      I'm not knocking you, but please be aware that the brain can do some odd things to itself.

      F_T

    53. Re:Why does being rich and famous... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 1

      You're ability to debate is abysmal. You are obviously a jerk.You can't understand what other people are saying. Wow.

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  6. Hardly worth the leak by Coisiche · · Score: 1

    I'm neither a conspiracy nutter nor a high profile public figure (does this Tom DeLonge count as both?) but I'm willing to bet that the former message the latter via all sorts of medium all the time.

    If Wikileaks have got something interesting then reveal that, not this nonsense.

    1. Re: Hardly worth the leak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wiki leaks revealed Hillary should be in jail, what more do you want?

    2. Re:Hardly worth the leak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do. Hell, I ran for some third rate shitty county level job with no power and got emails like this.

    3. Re:Hardly worth the leak by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      On the contrary, we now know...it really was aliens!!! Surely you can see this also proves all the other off-the-cuff conspiracy theories made up in the past decade. Say goodbye to your precious bodily fluids!

  7. devastating release there. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sterling work there, Mr Assange. Keep fighting the good fight against ... uh... musicians. Yes, that'll do...

    1. Re:devastating release there. by DarkLordBelial · · Score: 1

      Shitty musicians.

    2. Re:devastating release there. by gsslay · · Score: 1

      Crazy shitty musicians

  8. Re:Hillary knows about the aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right but, why would alines put Hilary in jail?

  9. Welp, that does it. by L.+J.+Beauregard · · Score: 1

    Guess I'll have to vote for the Cheeto Messiah.

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    1. Re:Welp, that does it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It ain't easy being cheesy

  10. What about Mitchell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile over in Putinland, they've been pushing stories that don't mention Blink 182 at all, but instead talk about UFO emails involving Edgar Mitchell (astronaut) and the Vatican. I have to wonder, though, if this is just standard procedure to distract public attention from their, uh, foreign policy.

  11. If you search one's trashcan you will find junk by La+Gris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Publishing one's mailbox content, it is no surprise to find junk.

    Thus I am not surprised a political figure in need for more funding is receiving frivolous solicitations from a person with questionable mental health. And guess what, when a public political figure has to smile and be kind with all ppl, even those that are disturbingly ill. This is even more important if your are in need for funding.

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    1. Re:If you search one's trashcan you will find junk by geek · · Score: 1

      Publishing one's mailbox content, it is no surprise to find junk.

      Thus I am not surprised a political figure in need for more funding is receiving frivolous solicitations from a person with questionable mental health. And guess what, when a public political figure has to smile and be kind with all ppl, even those that are disturbingly ill. This is even more important if your are in need for funding.

      It's not frivolous. Podesta is a long time UFO nut. In fact he even publicly swore once to release UFO information the government has if he held public office.

    2. Re:If you search one's trashcan you will find junk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Podesta is a long time UFO nut, thus the emails are frivolous.

    3. Re:If you search one's trashcan you will find junk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would think that if the information were so important and irrefutable, he wouldn't wait until being handed the keys to a "public office" before releasing it. It's almost as if he's more interested in either a) personal power or b) not being proven wrong, as opposed to getting the "truth" out there.

      On the plus side they could be doing another album...the world's better off with him drooling in a corner muttering about his "A-level" friends from Roswell...I mean being such a cornerstone of society as a "member of Blink-182," I'm sure he's mixed it up with the rich and famous. Probably at dive bars in Reno, after the rich and famous have been kicked out of the Vegas hotels for god knows what but hey, he's "important." He has knowledge about UFO's that nobody else has, or won't share if they do!

      Podesta isn't just a UFO nut, he's a nut. Might as well call a spade a spade. If people were stupid enough to give him a public office, he'd mount a "campaign" against the supposed conspirators to release some sealed records and failing that, he'd spend the rest of his political career pointing in their direction and shouting about censorship. He has nothing new to add to any discussion about UFOs because there is nothing new to add, plain and simple. Where are the aliens? Fucking nowhere, that's where they are. We obviously don't understand the universe to the degree that we'd like to think, because statistically we should have been overrun by alien visitations at this point. Not all of them would have been intentionally hiding themselves either, in my estimation, if they DID exist and were anything like us, you'd rather not hear from them. You're not going to hear from them anyway though, because they just aren't there to be found.

      All Podesta has to add to a discussion about UFOs is the same thing everyone else has to add to a discussion about UFOs...their own, religious belief in the objects and their pilots and (if you're really lucky) they might have known someone who served in the Air Force once. Maybe one who saw something they couldn't explain and drank the same brand of Kool Aid as the rest of them. You'll notice that neither of those things are actually useful to the discussion in any way, not even the military associations. ESPECIALLY not the military associations. I mean there's certainly never been anyone mentally unstable in the services, after all, but still...

    4. Re:If you search one's trashcan you will find junk by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      This isn't junk at all. If you go back to Julian Assange's previous announcement:

      So, those Hillary Clinton emails, they connect together with the cables that we have published of Hillary Clinton, creating a rich picture of how Hillary Clinton performs in office, but, more broadly, how the U.S. Department of State operates.

      So, here's Wikileaks October Surprise. Hillary and her campaign staff are ignoring the alien invasion! The Lunar Ambassador is calling for help, and Hillary is ignoring him! Just as she's ignored the Zombie Threat!

  12. In closely related news... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    METV just started airing the X-Files from the beginning.

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  13. Doesn't explain? Yes it does by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    he former lead singer of Blink 182, Tom DeLonge, has publicly admitted to his obsession with UFOs -- but that still doesn't explain why he was sending two cryptic messages about alien spacecrafts to Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta

    Whadyamean, it doesn't explain it? It explains it perfectly. He's obsessed with UFOs.

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    1. Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But why was he sending these emails to John Podesta? Was he sending them to every presidential campaign manager, or did he have a reason to single out Hillary's? Does he know something that we don't?

      Inquiring minds want to know!

      dom

    2. Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But why was he sending these emails to John Podesta? Was he sending them to every presidential campaign manager, or did he have a reason to single out Hillary's? Does he know something that we don't?

      Because he's a UFO conspiracy theorist. That's what they do.

    3. Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 2

      Oh that's simple. If you wanted to know about an Unidentified Flying Object that may not be from the Sol system, wouldn't you want to try to get into contact with our friends the lizard people to see if they know what it is?

      I mean, that's what a UFO is. It's merely unidentified. (And also flying. And an object.) The lizard person mothership in orbit may be cloaked, but it's not a UFO.

      If Star Trek has taught me anything, they certainly must have had an adventure or two on the trip over from Thuban! I mean, it's not anywhere near as far as the Voyager went. But at warp 9.75 (927c according to Wolfram Alpha) a 308 ly trip would still take about 122 Earth days (not counting adventures). I'm sure they could be of assistance.

      Seems only logical to me!

    4. Re: Doesn't explain? Yes it does by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Data, are you operating in your defined parameters? Please stop babbling.

      Data: I don't babble sir. ... little bit later ....

      Data: I do have a tendency to babble.

    5. Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely warp 9.75 is not sustainable for 122 days. Warp 8 would be much more comfortable. That's 220 days.

    6. Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 1

      Good call. I also forgot that warp 5 is the recommended speed limit for general travel. Also jumbled up 23rd and 24th century scales. 122 days would be 23rd century warp 9.75. 24th century the velocity would be 2261c.

      So, with 24th century scale, warp 5 is 214c. So 526 days. Do you think that would work out to 1 season of adventures or should we just stick to the 1 year per season thing and go for 2 seasons?

    7. Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does by hey! · · Score: 1

      I'm obsessed with UFOs. It's kind of an issue in my house. I'll start to watch a UFO documentary on Netflix and and without fail I get too pissed off to finish it. Sure, it's a given that the filmmaker is a nut or a charlatan, but I keep hoping that for once it'll be a better class of nut or charlatan. It's the utter lack of originality that I find so depressing. I mean we're talking about putative contact with a superior alien civilization, something that if it were true would make the world even more wondrous than it already is. Is a little imagination too much to ask?

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    8. Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does by Master+Moose · · Score: 1

      Yes, Much the same here.

      Every few months I will sit down with one in the hopes that "This will be different.." I seldom finish one.

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  14. So are Kang and Kodos. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    . . . .impersonating our major party candidates AGAIN ??

    Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. . .

    1. Re:So are Kang and Kodos. . . by jodokast98 · · Score: 1

      I'm still voting for Ralph Wiggum. He's got more brains then the current two candidates. He even knows how to dress himself.

  15. SubjectsInCommentsAreStupidCauseTheSubjectIsTFA by lesincompetent · · Score: 1

    Note to self: spike your sensitive documents trove with fake news about very exciting topics to steer the reporting away from sensitive matters.

  16. Did GNAA just win? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, Slashdot editors posted an article talking about "shitty riffs" ?

  17. Tom says 5 words on What's my Age Again... by cloud.pt · · Score: 2

    ...silly. He does have horrible live performances on the guitar, but he definitely doesn't sing that song. That song is all Mark (the bassist) except the chorus, which is sang in chorus (sorry) by both Mark and Tom. I just wanted to bring some sense to this senseless article is all.

    For scientific completion, Tom says exactly 23 words of the chorus, roughly a third of the entire chorus words, 1/5 of the chorus duration:

    • "away from me"
    • "twenty three"
    • "TV Shows
    • "(hang) up on me"
    • "prank phone calls"
    • "freshman year
    • "(broke) up with me
    • "so seriously"
    • "fall in line"

    Now, on the very next album song, Tom does sing some amazing wordsmith quotes like "He's a player, diarrhea giver". We can all assume that and his likely "abuse of substance" are very good credentials for someone stating anything about the paranormal.

  18. Tom DeLonge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Donald should grab DeLonge by the pussy!!!!

  19. Re: Hillary knows about the aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because Aliens!

  20. Introducing General McCasland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the General mentioned in the article...

    http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/104776/major-general-william-n-mccasland.aspx

  21. VALIS wept by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    I think needing to concern yourself with money to fulfill your basic needs grounds you in reality a bit compared to living off of some giant nest egg managed by your accountant.

    Wow man, careful with your phrasing there.
    How about something along the lines of "having to constantly work in order to merely survive doesn't leave much time for philosophical vaporings".

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    1. Re:VALIS wept by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      It did feel a little mercenary writing it that way, but it felt accurate... having liquid assets is a basic need in society since you can't pay the tax man in bacon. Your wording is, however, much more pleasing to the ear and mind.

    2. Re:VALIS wept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      :-) Yeah, but I don't know anyone who "constantly works" so much that they haven't time for weird speculation about random stuff.

      I think the difference is that we're reading what the rich and famous say because they're rich and famous. Pretty good chance that less rich and less famous people have weird ideas too - possibly far more. We need to start getting articles that say what a million random other people think, written in the same style.

  22. Illiteracy by fnj · · Score: 1

    alien spacecrafts [sic]

    The plural of spacecraft is spacecraft, chump.

    1. Re:Illiteracy by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      No, spacecrafts is correct: aliens macrame their pressure suits, and their star charts are macaroni pictures.

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    2. Re:Illiteracy by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The plural of spacecraft is spacecraft, chump.

      Only on Earth.

  23. Drugs by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    He admitted to being high on painkillers during the entire recording session for his side project's debut album (Angels And Airwaves).

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  24. I see what you did there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In using a subject in your own comment ... It means just the opposite, clever, Very clever

  25. This is news for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idiot fires off idiotic emails to candidate.

    Please sir, I want some more

  26. October Suprise? by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

    So this is the much-anticipated Wikileaks October Surprise? UFO emails from Blink 182? Julian needs to up his game and give us something just a tad more significant, like maybe Hillary's dry cleaning list or some of her Nigerian 401 spam.

  27. Author never met a nutter?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take it this author has never met a conspiracy nut, this is all just par for the course.

    HA! Got "nuisance" for the captcha.

  28. Re: Hillary knows about the aliens by Falconhell · · Score: 1

    Wait! I see it all now, Hillary and Trump are REALLY Kang and Kodos. Dont vote for the wrong lizard. You know it makes sense.
    Kodos2016

  29. Project Mogul by number6x · · Score: 2

    This is an especially worthless leak because the documents dealing with the thing that crashed in Roswell in 1947 were already declassified back in the mid 1990's.

    My freshman physics teacher, and undergraduate college advisor, worked on project mogul. He was part of the team that built the craft that crashed in Roswell in 1947. I learned college physics from one of the beings that built the craft that crashed in Roswell and started a UFO 'craze'! (He was a human being, but that is still a being.) New Mexico Tech was an amazing school. Professors like Charlie Moore, Sterling Colgate, and Bernie Vonnegut (Kurt's brother) made it a pretty exciting place.

    I don't really understand the purpose of the 'leak' unless it is to show that some people who work with Hillary Clinton have some pretty wacky beliefs. Has anyone been paying attention to politics for the last few decades? This is not startling in any way. Finding evidence of a rational person, without wacky beliefs, involved in politics would be a world shattering revelation.

    1. Re:Project Mogul by macs4all · · Score: 1

      I don't really understand the purpose of the 'leak' unless it is to show that some people who work with Hillary Clinton have some pretty wacky beliefs. Has anyone been paying attention to politics for the last few decades? This is not startling in any way. Finding evidence of a rational person, without wacky beliefs, involved in politics would be a world shattering revelation.

      I can tell you what this is all about:

      For whatever you think about the Clintons, they (both Bill and Hillary) do seem genuinely interested in the topic of UFOs. It is Bill Clinton, as President, that pressured the Air Force and Joint Chiefs and Congress and anyone he could pressure to come clean about Roswell, which prompted the Gummint to "declassify" the Project Mogul documents, and (supposedly) re-examine the Roswell crash "afresh".

      So, I assume that the guy from Blink 182 knew that, and thought he would try and get some "access" to what he calculated was a "sympathetic ear" while he had an email address for someone close to Hillary.

    2. Re:Project Mogul by number6x · · Score: 1

      Thanks,

      That is interesting to know.

    3. Re:Project Mogul by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Thanks,

      That is interesting to know.

      No problem. I'm actually surprised no one else here put that together.

  30. Wow its come down to this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, American's should not be surprised we have lousy leaders in government. We focus on he said, she said moments, we trash talk the other as evil. Which neither of these people are evil as I know it. It's a word like hero that is used far too often in incorrect descriptions. I think the objective people in America probably a hand full of us, who do not play political selective hearing and seeing cannot believe we have come down to Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Yes, both campaigns accuse each other of being the wrong answer for America. Truth is neither candidate can solve the problems with realistic and logical answers. The emails and video snippets are just distractions from the truth that Hillary and Donald are not capable of being leaders. Trouble is we have a nation of polarized American voters who can't be objective if they tried.

  31. CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Not sure if he's thinking of ELO, Boston had a lot of UFOs on their album covers, too.

    But surely this dude should already know the real truth.
    Because teh intarwebs tell me that that the Space People communicate to the great unwashed through the medium of Rock n Roll. David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix and dozens of other examples have met the Space Brothers.

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    1. Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure if he's thinking of ELO, Boston had a lot of UFOs on their album covers, too.

      Not as much as Yes' [alien landscapes*, UFO songs]. Even The Carpenters made a UFO song. Those were the days.

      (*) Appropriated by the producers of Avatar without credits for Roger Dean. But I digress.

    2. Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tool has a good UFO song. So did Styx.

    3. Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Not sure if he's thinking of ELO, Boston had a lot of UFOs on their album covers, too.

      Not as much as Yes' [alien landscapes*, UFO songs]. Even The Carpenters made a UFO song. Those were the days.

      (*) Appropriated by the producers of Avatar without credits for Roger Dean. But I digress.

      And let's not forget Klaatu. They had UFO/Alien-themed songs across at tleast two of their hard-to-find albums.

      "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" and "Anus from Uranus" (a HILARIOUS song, with lyrics that were recorded BACKWARDS with words phonetically-chose to sound like the words they wanted when played FORWARD). WAY cool!

    4. Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Sorry to Reply to my own post; but I want to correct the Klaatu reference:

      The song with the Backwards lyrics was "Silly Boys", on their third album, "Sir Army Suit". They LYRICS from that song are from the song "Anus of Uranus" from their FIRST album, which I believe was called :"Sub Rosa Subway", How the backwards lyrics from one song ended up on another song is explained here.

    5. Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Sorry to disappoint you, but they're not the Beatles.

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    6. Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Sorry to disappoint you, but they're not the Beatles.

      Oh, I know. I read all those things back then. But I still like a lot of their songs in small doses.

  32. The UFO Tapes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know Iâ(TM)m automatically attracted to aliens -- I just start kissing them. Itâ(TM)s like a magnet. I just kiss. I donâ(TM)t even wait. And when youâ(TM)re a super nova, they let you do it. You can do anything.

  33. The have always had alien themes by DarkOx · · Score: 1

    Consider "Aliens Exist" form probably their most popular album "Enema of the State"

    Hey mom there's something in the backroom
    Hope it's not the creatures from above
    You used to read me stories
    As if my dreams were boring
    We all know conspiracies are dumb
    What if people knew that these were real
    I'd leave my closet door open all night
    I know the CIA would say
    What you hear is all hearsay
    I wish someone would tell me what was right
    Up all night long
    And there's something very wrong
    And I know it must be late
    Been gone since yesterday
    I'm not like you guys
    I'm not like you
    I am still a skeptic yes you know me
    Been best friends and will be till we die
    I got an injection
    Of fear from the abduction
    My best friend thinks I'm just telling lies
    Alright

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  34. Wikileaks releases 2000 emails... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and this is the one that is chosen to be highlighted. Fuck you slashdot for contributing to the death of journalism and the death of democracy. Fuck your white noise.

  35. Elvis for Prez! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Just when it looked like this election couldn't get any weirder, UFO's are injected into it.

  36. Yeah, yeah, I get it. by wiredog · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is big on Privacy but let's face it, if you send whack-job email to a public figure it may leak and embarrass you. So this guy really has nothing to complain about.

  37. Let me be the first to say by boudie2 · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

  38. Drugs are bad by kimvette · · Score: 1
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  39. Comments overridden by "shitty" by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

    This is ridiculous. Why allow such bias towards someone's musicianship when you're posting an article about something completely different? The comments are plagued now, very little to do with the topic of UFOs or whatever the fuck it was. I don't remember, I saw "shitty guitar riffs" and got agitated and wanted to post a comment rebuking it. Fucking Slashdot, get it together. I've been on since the year 2000 and this blatant editorial nonsense in an otherwise "News for Nerds" story just makes you look like you're from my high school newspaper in the 90's, talking about how shitty Offspring was because they played 3 riffs over and over. You know what, they played the SHIT out of those riffs, with more rhythm than you'll ever be able to produce out of your cynical ass.

    See, now shit's turned into ass. Thanks, Slashdot!

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  40. All the small things by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Looks like WikiLeaks just did a document dump instead of checking what might be worth leaking, and what not. Although given that if they were selective about it, they'd be accused of shilling for either Trump or Clinton or the Russians, depending on which. So maybe it's good that they did it this way

  41. Uh, don't you have some contrails to clean up by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    by spraying vinegar in their general direction?

  42. Smoking gun links Putin with Trump by Martin+S. · · Score: 1
  43. DeLonge working with General McCasland? by khz6955 · · Score: 1

    "DeLonge said he's been working with someone named General McCasland"

    Can 'General McCasland' corroborate DeLonges story?

  44. Re: Hillary knows about the aliens by __1200333 · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new .... oh.

  45. positions of influence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    modern music has the power of strong influence. several well known artists have admitted this much.

    would it surprise you then to hear of alien interaction with people who are, regardless of quality, famous and in a position to create media with a large audience and influence them?

    a lot of artists, famous ones even, are honest and open with their occult activities. another reason to stop consuming popular media.