WikiLeaks Publishes Cryptic UFO Emails Sent To Clinton Campaign From Former Blink 182 Singer (gizmodo.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: The former lead singer of Blink 182, Tom DeLonge, has publicly admitted to his obsession with UFOs -- but that still doesn't explain why he was sending two cryptic messages about alien spacecrafts to Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta, as the Wall Street Journal reported earlier today. The former rockstar's UFO emails became public in the latest Wikleaks dump, published earlier this month. DeLonge, who is best known for his shitty guitar riffs and vocals in songs like "What's My Age Again," emailed Podesta at least twice from his personal account, urging him to meet in person so he could introduce Podesta to high-level officials (presumably with info about UFOs). Here's a small taste of one of the messages: "I would like to bring two very 'important' people out to meet you in DC. I think you will find them very interesting, as they were principal leadership relating to our sensitive topic. Both were in charge of most fragile divisions, as it relates to Classified Science and DOD topics. Other words, these are A-Level officials. Worth our time, and as well the investment to bring all the way out to you. I just need 2 hours from you." In another email, DeLonge said he's been working with someone named General McCasland, and explained some of the General's public comments. The email is rather strange, given that there's no specific request made or really any context at all for the message: "He mentioned he's a 'skeptic,' he's not.... He just has to say that out loud, but he is very, very aware -- as he was in charge of all of the stuff. When Roswell crashed, they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. General McCasland was in charge of that exact laboratory up to a couple years ago." It's unclear if Podesta ever responded to the messages, but he has shown interest in UFOs in the past. When he stepped down from his role as a senior advisor to President Barack Obama, Podesta tweeted, "Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the UFO files. #thetruthisstilloutthere cc: @NYTimesDowd." The famous tweet now appears under the name of Obama's new senior advisor Brian Deese.

Comments

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[Anonymous Coward]

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[Black Parrot]

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[meta-monkey]

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[Applehu Akbar]

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[Z80a]

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[Maritz]

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Yep. Mysogynist too. You forgot that one.

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[epyT-R]

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[neoritter]

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[david_thornley]

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[Mashiki]

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Re: Build A Tremendous Dyson Sphere!

[JustBoo]

But Hitler nazi trump xenophobic racist

Yep. Mysogynist too. You forgot that one.

Yet not a mass murderer or psychopathic compulsive liar that kills people who leak DNC emails. Funny how the left project what Killary actually is onto Trump. The uneducated (by design) Demo voters lap up the lies like they have time and again over 60 years. They never learn, by design.

That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Anonymous Coward]

Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"? Afterall, they probably accomplished more in their lives than the shill who wrote this article.

Captcha: Frigid, just like Hillary.

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Anonymous Coward]

Holy shit, me too! I read "shifty" a couple of times, but after AC's comment I checked and it actually does read "shitty". The thing is, though, that in the original Gizmodo article it *also* reads "shitty".

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Anonymous Coward]

Additionally, "What's my age again?" is one of the few Blink 182 songs not to feature his horrible vocals.

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[cloud.pt]

Being a huge fan of Blink 182 (in my top 10 bands), I can say the riffs are simple, which some might define as shitty if what they appreciate is sheer technical ability. And if have you ever seen them live, be it in person or on through a TV show where they actually singing and playing, you wouldn't even thought of writing that comment. I have actually seen them live and it's worse than shitty, especially Tom. One of the worst live bands ever, Sex Pistols-level. Mark's instrument being the bass and his low tone might be more forgiving, but Tom is buttfck bad bad live. Travis is decent, after all he's one of the best punk drummers of all time and any genre overall (for obvious reasons, punk might be one of the hardest genre's for the drums).

Yet I love their songs for sheer production, melody and the silly, comical, yet awkwardly logical lyrics. And most things in life are silly. Many internet trolls have higher IQ or even academic credentials than some PhDs, yet they love to be stupid. Art, beauty, taste are very subjective, and that's part of life's charm. The trolls are just people with different interests than ethical/moral-abiding people.

In any case, I'd still take a live ticket in my country (where they rarely come/came) than a rare CD/vinyl release any day (unless it comes with concert tickets, or I can resell it to the price of 20 tickets). Not only cuz I love them and the opportunity to see them live is rare, but also because of the comedy in their concerts, in which their shitty live act plays a big part.

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Anonymous Coward]

Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"? Afterall, they probably accomplished more in their lives than the shill who wrote this article.

Captcha: Frigid, just like Hillary.

Because, unlike UFOs, we can substantiate the shitty guitar rifs

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Anonymous Coward]

Not that I am a huge fan of Blink 182 or anything, but is there really a need to call their riffs "shitty"?

Yes

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Gr8Apes]

And if have you ever seen them live, be it in person or on through a TV show where they actually singing and playing, you wouldn't even thought of writing that comment. I have actually seen them live and it's worse than shitty, especially Tom. One of the worst live bands ever, Sex Pistols-level. Mark's instrument being the bass and his low tone might be more forgiving, but Tom is buttfck bad bad live.

Man, that's the funniest fan written description ever!

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Nemyst]

I can tell you're stuck in the past, grandpa, cause millenials aren't generally interested in Blink 182, whose most successful years were in the late 90s. You don't see toddlers listening to punk rock, and when they're of the age to start getting interested, they'll usually go for something current.

Re: That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[bestweasel]

It's the sort of comment which should be removed by the Slashdot edito... never mind

For the last couple of days the stories have been covered by an ad on my phone, has anyone else been seeing this?

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[RobotRunAmok]

I am reminded again of why music reviewers love video game reviewers. (Because up until video game reviews, music reviews were the lowest form of journalism.)

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[epyT-R]

By what standards? The standards of a society that saw fit to reward blink 182?

I think it's the standards we should question..

Re: That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[bestweasel]

Thanks. I messed up the link in the previous post: this sort of thing.

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[rainmouse]

A summary in a discussion website is not the right place to insert colorful qualifiers. That entertainment is for the comments to provide. --Editor 101, chapter 13.

Agreed.

It would be more useful to keep personal opinions in a summary away and instead perhaps provide some links to the actual emails in question instead rather than an article talking about someone elses opinions on them; But hey reading and forming your own opinions is so unfashionable these days.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-...
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-...
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-...

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[ravenshrike]

Clearly he meant schwifty but for some reason had autocorrect on.

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Darinbob]

Personal attacks are how you distinguish real journalists from the wannabes like Anonymous Coward, bloggers, and cable news channels.

Re:That's a nice smoke screen you got there

[Darinbob]

An Anonymous Coward fight! Get the popcorn!

his shitty guitar riffs and vocals

[OzPeter]

Biased much?

Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals

[Anonymous Coward]

"peaking at number two on Billboard's Modern Rock Tracks chart for ten weeks" -Wiki

Is shitty the new word for cool?

Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals

[epyT-R]

Typically, what's considered cool and popular by the majority is insipid to those with half a braincell.

Re: his shitty guitar riffs and vocals

[epyT-R]

an unbiased media is in all of our interests, even if we don't agree politically.

Re:his shitty guitar riffs and vocals

[Barny]

I am so sorry to hear you only have half a brain-cell. Although it is promising to see you able to post comments to slashdot.

Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

make so many people lose their grip on reality? Whether it is thinking we all live in a computer simulation or UFOs are scouting the planet, or that the earth is really flat, there seems to be a connection between making too much money and losing your mind.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[CODiNE]

They either believe they are so much better than everyone else and they've got it all figured out, the universe loves them and they're blessed, or just incredibly lucky.

None of those is exactly a recipe for great mental health.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Gilgaron]

I think needing to concern yourself with money to fulfill your basic needs grounds you in reality a bit compared to living off of some giant nest egg managed by your accountant.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[RandomSurfer314]

It really doesn't, you're just a victim of selection bias.

Re: Why does being rich and famous...

[stealth_finger]

We can prove the Earth is not flat. But, how can you prove something has never been seen? And where's the proof that we aren't in a simulation? As soon as you got proof or even later a restore from an earlier snapshot would undo your work.

Same place as the proof that I'm not really a space baby and you're all part of my dreams and when I wake up I'll go back to munching on stars. You can't prove a negative.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Mashiki]

make so many people lose their grip on reality?

It's likely drugs or medications, it's the only reasonable explanation. Ask yourself, what's the most insane thing you thought has been true while on some pain medication or hypnotic drug for whatever. Now consider you've got lots of money, and can afford to grease a doctors palms to get you a steady supply of something that'll make you feel great, all the time. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

Anyone who's been on pain meds at a high dose will tell you all the fucked up stuff that they've either done or thought of. And anyone who's taken some form of barbiturate(was the drug of choice until the 80's when coke became popular) will tell you the same thing.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

You stated nothing, you offered no information. You just claimed I was biased. How is that intelligent or meaningful? Please, at least pretend you have something meaningful to say.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Nemyst]

They did no such thing, you just interpreted their comment as a personal attack for some reason. You feel like being rich and famous makes "so many people" lose grip on reality, but the truth is that most people who're rich and famous are normal and fine, it's just that you don't hear about them. Hence, selection bias.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[imatter]

Tom DeLonge has a documentary project called Sekret Machines, so it is probably less about losing your mind and more about making money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

And considering how much information is out there about how money affects people's behavior and rationality, I think my case is strong.

http://www.livescience.com/112...

https://www.researchgate.net/p...

http://www.businessinsider.com...

http://nymag.com/news/features...

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[sootman]

Plenty of people are nuts and you don't know them. You know about the famous nuts BECAUSE THEY'RE FAMOUS. There are literally thousands of famous actors, musicians, and athletes, and it only takes a few visible nuts to make it seem like there are a WHOLE LOT of nuts.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

Citations please. The research I have read indicates that lots of money makes people less empathic, less social and more irrational. And I was not talking about mental illness as you know, I was talking about delusional thinking. But go ahead and defend wealthy people without offering any information or citations.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Daetrin]

As others have said, selection bias. You hear about the rich people who are delusional, you don't hear about the non-rich people who are delusional.

I had a close friend who suffered from delusions of some kind. (I would guess paranoid schizophrenia, but i'm not a doctor.) At the start it was just that she thought people were spying on her (or at least that was all she would admit to at the time.) Eventually this developed into a belief that the government was bouncing signals off of tesla coils on the moon to put thoughts in her head. She tried telling people about this on the web and calling people she thought might listen to her, and tried to get me to help her in those endeavors. But she wasn't rich or powerful so no one except her close friends listened to what she had to say so her voice wasn't amplified so you never heard about it.

The only differences i expect that being wealthy makes is:
1: You're not likely to end up homeless on the street shouting at passers-by
2: If you want you can pay to have your voice amplified.
3: Even if you don't pay people will gossip about what you say, probably snickering about it the whole time
4: You're probably a little less likely to believe in a grand conspiracy about the rich and powerful secretly being in control of everything. (Cause if you think you're rich and powerful it probably makes it harder to believe in a conspiracy about your peers being in charge of everything.)

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Grishnakh]

Ask yourself, what's the most insane thing you thought has been true while on some pain medication or hypnotic drug for whatever

I can't think of anything "insane" I ever thought while being on pain meds. In fact, I never noticed much effect at all from pain meds when I've taken them. Similarly, I've never noticed any kind of mental effect or "buzz" from drinking alcohol. Maybe I'm weird...

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

Again, ad hominem. Not one word about the topic. You clearly have nothing of substance to say. But that is not surprising. Can't wait for your next, off topic ad hominem.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[g01d4]

I'll bite. There's likely a little craziness correlated with the drive that's required to become rich and famous. Multiply this with a little craziness often correlated with 'artists' and then combine this with the ability that wealth provides to shield oneself from the reality checks that the rest of us would otherwise face. Then finally I think you might add a touch of selection bias due to the celebrity that wealth and fame bring and voila.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Thud457]

Yes but are they in the news?

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

You and the others have provided no proof for your statements. I already gave links, and could give many more that show that money affects people's thinking, their behavior towards others, their empathy and their decision making. These effects are well documented. You and the others only comment was that I had selection bias. You will never win a debate with that approach. You certainly haven't won this debate. So instead of talking about me, how about you talk about the effects or lack thereof of money on people's behavior and reasoning? Nah, you ain't got nothing. Prove me wrong and show me all those citations you have lined up that indicate that money does not have any deleterious effects on people's brains or behavior.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Anonymous Coward]

I was on morphine in the hospital once, and became convinced that the hospital was actually operated by tiny gnomes, and that the humans were just there as a cover.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[SmokeyRobot]

Clearly I can't debate you because you have already debated both sides of the story in your head and with others who are not me. The point of my sarcastic original response is that you have no more grip on reality than others who are rich and famous. Consider a reduction of what we know about ourselves and reality.

From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
There is a chain of events to follow, Sherlock Holmes-like, from the red rose you gave your beloved, beginning with everyday reality and reducing it, step by step, to get to the source:
The sight, smell and texture of a rose (i.e., the experience), reduce to...
The brain assembling the picture of a rose from various regions dedicated to sight, smell and touch. This reduces to...
Neurons in each region specifically processing raw data into the qualities of a rose (known technically as qualia). These reduce to...
The supporting molecular structure that keeps a neuron alive. This reduces to...
The atoms that compose those molecules. These reduce to...
The subatomic particles (quanta) that structure atoms. These reduce to...
The quantum field that gives rise to quanta.
Science cannot yet explain what happens past this point and where the the source of this quantum field comes from.

So when you say these people have no grip on reality. I am saying that neither do you. We understand reality through how we interact with it and thereby change it at the same time. That reality seems to exist outside of us in the same way that physicists perform experiments and achieve similar results however people aren't consistent tools of measurement.

Lack of empathy, poor decision making and faulty can be reduced by other factors such as the assumption of intellectual superiority. I don't suppose you would know anything about that though.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

I am a neuroscientist by trade and your description of the brain functioning is not particularly accurate nor helpful for the discussion. I was talking about the growing body of scientific literature that shows that money has negative effects on human cognition, everything from risk assessment and risk taking, to empathy toward others. I also maintain that it allows people to live in a fact free bubble even more easily than it is for people of modest means to be fact free. What I don't understand is why you need to keep bringing me into the discussion. Clearly you can't just discuss something without showing your irritation with others who disagree.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Grishnakh]

You are not uncommon either but pushing forward an idea you are not totally informed on either.

I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that *other* people don't have real mental effects from drugs and alcohol. I'm just relating my own personal experience that I don't seem to have any for some odd reason. (Yes, I realize this is very tangential to the discussion here.) I'll admit that I've never taken *a lot* of either one, but I've taken plenty of hard pharmaceuticals for various medical procedures: Percocet, codeine, etc. (in the recommended doses).

Take a few pills and you *might* feel a bit 'good' and that's it.

I've never even felt that. I feel so little (including pain) that now if I have a procedure I don't even bother taking anything. I'm starting to wonder if I'm living in a simulation...

Take a handful and you will be geeked out.

Yeah, I'm not going to take more than the recommended dosage of anything. If I get a medical procedure, it's because I want to get better, not screw up my body with overly-high doses of pharmaceuticals.

Drink a beer and you might get a buzz.

I can drink several glasses of wine and not feel anything at all. And I don't regularly consume alcohol either, so it's not from building up a tolerance. And I'm not very heavy either, so it's not from having a huge body weight. Now again, I'll admit I've never drank *a lot* of hard liquor all at once; that seems like a good way to have a really bad time. But even when my wife tried to get me a little a little drunk with several glasses of wine nothing happened. She was disappointed....

People react differently to drugs.

Yeah, apparently. They just don't seem to have much effect on me I guess.

Re: Why does being rich and famous...

[sexconker]

You can't prove a negative.

Of course you can.
Define your terms such that A and B are mutually exclusive. Proving A proves !B.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[jxander]

It doesn't.

You just don't hear about the poor people who lose their grip on reality.

Rich people are more visible, so their ridiculous ideas are more visible. Doesn't actually make them more prevalent.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[Ungrounded Lightning]

Why does being rich and famous...make so many people lose their grip on reality?

Because (like beauty), having money, power, and/or fame distorts the feedback they get from other people about their ideas. When they say something oddball, they may receive encouragement, rather than discouragement, from people who want them to be attracted and friendly to them, in the hopes of receiving benefits (such as money, beneficial exercise of power, or physical intimacy). Reward their wrong and/or wierd opinions and you can expect them to become more common and more entrenched.

Then again, there's selection bias in reporting. When somebody rich and/or famous says something ordinary, sane, and obviously common sense, it's not news. When they say something odd, it is news. So most of them may have quite ordinary ideas, but the ones who espouse odd ones get the press. (And for people TRYING to increase their fame, it may be useful to come up with some oddball stuff just to get more press, and thus more free advertisement. B-) )

Who knows: Though most of their oddball opinions may no more than that, some particular uncommon opinion may happen to be part of how they BECAME rich and/or famous, and thus useful to others. This also makes their off-the-beaten-path sayings newsworthy. (All of them - because the newsie has no idea WHICH ingredient might be the base of the "secret sauce".)

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[SmokeyRobot]

My description came from other neuroscientists as I linked so I would be happy to hear something counter to this current understanding of how brains function but for now I will take printed word over yours. I still stand by my point that you have no more grip on reality than those others. I am not entering into the discussion about the effect of money/wealth on behavior as it seems I would be already behind.

What I don't understand is why you need to keep bringing me into the discussion. Clearly you can't just discuss something without showing your irritation with others who disagree.

The reason why I kept bringing you into the discussion is that I assume people want to be treated the way they treat others so I was treating you accordingly. Your assumption about me is wrong. I love discussions with people who disagree with me because it opens up perspectives that I have not considered and I have no issue being wrong. Your comments however to myself and others on this thread were condescending and dismissive. That is not conducive to discussion. Maybe that was my fault, I started our conversation in a sarcastic tone which probably derailed it. I apologize for that.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

Citations please?

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

You can make your points without reference to me personally, and you know it. Yes, you did start with sarcasm and I accept your apology. I was not trying to be condescending, and I don't think I was. The topic I brought up was why do so many rich people seem to have trouble with reality. I fully understand that many regular (non-wealthy) people have a very poor grip on reality. But you would think that highly successful people with more money than God might be more rational. My contention, and you have provided no evidence to the contrary, is that they often seem to have less of a grip on reality than average people. Take a look at the book 'Dark Money" by Jane Mayer about the Koch family. Clearly, the money had a big effect on their view of the world and their thinking capabilities.

And believe me, your description of how the brain works is not from any neuroscientists that I have read. In fact, there is no single theory of how the brain functions from a single source. You need to read many, many papers from many sources to even come to a vague notion of how the brain functions. I would be happy to have a fuller discussion with you on that if you are interested. For example, what is your take on the so-called default mode of brain activity and the circuits involved? I would be very interested to hear your opinions on it.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[jxander]

Citations on what? That poor people can be crazy?

Spend 5 minutes in a wallmart, or check out any of the conspiracy theories on Youtube.

Rich folks do not have a monopoly on insanity.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[AHuxley]

Been rich and been famous is not the same thing. A lot of famous people have lost all their wealth. Some rich people are not well known.
To keep wealth it is often good to make contact with the political class. Charity work globally, NGO's with full gov backing.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

I said in several of my posts I was not talking about insanity. Now I know you are not reading what I wrote. You are assuming what I wrote. I am not talking about being insane or having a mental illness. I was saying that having too much money affects people's thinking and behavior in negative ways. I wanted you to provide citations that purport that having huge sums of money does not affect people's reasoning, empathy, risk taking, etc. My original question was why do many really rich people seem to lose touch with reality and start saying and believing absurd things.

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[jxander]

You are correct: I have not read everything you wrote, but I've read enough here to know that you're full of shit.

I don't need to provide citations for anything. You have made the claim that "having too much money affects people's thinking and behavior in negative ways," so the burden of proof is on you. When you make the claim, you need to support that claim.

You need to prove that Tom DeLong being a nutter is related to his wealth, and not simply just a random nutter who also happens to have money. Or at least prove that among the wealthy, there is a higher incidence of mental issues (while correcting for wealth's ability to buy a proper diagnosis)

Side note: I went to High School with Tom, at least until he got expelled, and he was a basket case from day 1. I have no reason to believe that his wealth caused this insanity. It only gave him a taller platform from which to be heard.

((https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof))

Re:Why does being rich and famous...

[The Real Dr John]

You're ability to debate is abysmal. You are obviously a jerk.You can't understand what other people are saying. Wow.

Hardly worth the leak

[Coisiche]

I'm neither a conspiracy nutter nor a high profile public figure (does this Tom DeLonge count as both?) but I'm willing to bet that the former message the latter via all sorts of medium all the time.

If Wikileaks have got something interesting then reveal that, not this nonsense.

Re:Hardly worth the leak

[CaptainLard]

On the contrary, we now know...it really was aliens!!! Surely you can see this also proves all the other off-the-cuff conspiracy theories made up in the past decade. Say goodbye to your precious bodily fluids!

Welp, that does it.

[L. J. Beauregard]

Guess I'll have to vote for the Cheeto Messiah.

Re:Welp, that does it.

[Anonymous Coward]

It ain't easy being cheesy

If you search one's trashcan you will find junk

[La Gris]

Publishing one's mailbox content, it is no surprise to find junk.

Thus I am not surprised a political figure in need for more funding is receiving frivolous solicitations from a person with questionable mental health. And guess what, when a public political figure has to smile and be kind with all ppl, even those that are disturbingly ill. This is even more important if your are in need for funding.

Re:If you search one's trashcan you will find junk

[geek]

Publishing one's mailbox content, it is no surprise to find junk.

Thus I am not surprised a political figure in need for more funding is receiving frivolous solicitations from a person with questionable mental health. And guess what, when a public political figure has to smile and be kind with all ppl, even those that are disturbingly ill. This is even more important if your are in need for funding.

It's not frivolous. Podesta is a long time UFO nut. In fact he even publicly swore once to release UFO information the government has if he held public office.

Re:If you search one's trashcan you will find junk

[Bruce Perens]

This isn't junk at all. If you go back to Julian Assange's previous announcement:

So, those Hillary Clinton emails, they connect together with the cables that we have published of Hillary Clinton, creating a rich picture of how Hillary Clinton performs in office, but, more broadly, how the U.S. Department of State operates.

So, here's Wikileaks October Surprise. Hillary and her campaign staff are ignoring the alien invasion! The Lunar Ambassador is calling for help, and Hillary is ignoring him! Just as she's ignored the Zombie Threat!

In closely related news...

[Black Parrot]

METV just started airing the X-Files from the beginning.

Doesn't explain? Yes it does

[wonkey_monkey]

he former lead singer of Blink 182, Tom DeLonge, has publicly admitted to his obsession with UFOs -- but that still doesn't explain why he was sending two cryptic messages about alien spacecrafts to Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta

Whadyamean, it doesn't explain it? It explains it perfectly. He's obsessed with UFOs.

Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does

[vel-ex-tech]

Oh that's simple. If you wanted to know about an Unidentified Flying Object that may not be from the Sol system, wouldn't you want to try to get into contact with our friends the lizard people to see if they know what it is?

I mean, that's what a UFO is. It's merely unidentified. (And also flying. And an object.) The lizard person mothership in orbit may be cloaked, but it's not a UFO.

If Star Trek has taught me anything, they certainly must have had an adventure or two on the trip over from Thuban! I mean, it's not anywhere near as far as the Voyager went. But at warp 9.75 (927c according to Wolfram Alpha) a 308 ly trip would still take about 122 Earth days (not counting adventures). I'm sure they could be of assistance.

Seems only logical to me!

Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does

[vel-ex-tech]

Good call. I also forgot that warp 5 is the recommended speed limit for general travel. Also jumbled up 23rd and 24th century scales. 122 days would be 23rd century warp 9.75. 24th century the velocity would be 2261c.

So, with 24th century scale, warp 5 is 214c. So 526 days. Do you think that would work out to 1 season of adventures or should we just stick to the 1 year per season thing and go for 2 seasons?

Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does

[hey!]

I'm obsessed with UFOs. It's kind of an issue in my house. I'll start to watch a UFO documentary on Netflix and and without fail I get too pissed off to finish it. Sure, it's a given that the filmmaker is a nut or a charlatan, but I keep hoping that for once it'll be a better class of nut or charlatan. It's the utter lack of originality that I find so depressing. I mean we're talking about putative contact with a superior alien civilization, something that if it were true would make the world even more wondrous than it already is. Is a little imagination too much to ask?

Re:Doesn't explain? Yes it does

[Master Moose]

Yes, Much the same here.

Every few months I will sit down with one in the hopes that "This will be different.." I seldom finish one.

So are Kang and Kodos. . .

[Salgak1]

. . . .impersonating our major party candidates AGAIN ??

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. . .

Re:So are Kang and Kodos. . .

[jodokast98]

I'm still voting for Ralph Wiggum. He's got more brains then the current two candidates. He even knows how to dress himself.

SubjectsInCommentsAreStupidCauseTheSubjectIsTFA

[lesincompetent]

Note to self: spike your sensitive documents trove with fake news about very exciting topics to steer the reporting away from sensitive matters.

Re:devastating release there.

[DarkLordBelial]

Shitty musicians.

Re:devastating release there.

[gsslay]

Crazy shitty musicians

Tom says 5 words on What's my Age Again...

[cloud.pt]

...silly. He does have horrible live performances on the guitar, but he definitely doesn't sing that song. That song is all Mark (the bassist) except the chorus, which is sang in chorus (sorry) by both Mark and Tom. I just wanted to bring some sense to this senseless article is all.

For scientific completion, Tom says exactly 23 words of the chorus, roughly a third of the entire chorus words, 1/5 of the chorus duration:

• "away from me"
• "twenty three"
• "TV Shows
• "(hang) up on me"
• "prank phone calls"
• "freshman year
• "(broke) up with me
• "so seriously"
• "fall in line"

Now, on the very next album song, Tom does sing some amazing wordsmith quotes like "He's a player, diarrhea giver". We can all assume that and his likely "abuse of substance" are very good credentials for someone stating anything about the paranormal.

VALIS wept

[Thud457]

I think needing to concern yourself with money to fulfill your basic needs grounds you in reality a bit compared to living off of some giant nest egg managed by your accountant.

Wow man, careful with your phrasing there.
How about something along the lines of "having to constantly work in order to merely survive doesn't leave much time for philosophical vaporings".

Re:VALIS wept

[Gilgaron]

It did feel a little mercenary writing it that way, but it felt accurate... having liquid assets is a basic need in society since you can't pay the tax man in bacon. Your wording is, however, much more pleasing to the ear and mind.

Illiteracy

[fnj]

alien spacecrafts [sic]

The plural of spacecraft is spacecraft, chump.

Re:Illiteracy

[Farmer Tim]

No, spacecrafts is correct: aliens macrame their pressure suits, and their star charts are macaroni pictures.

Re:Illiteracy

[Tablizer]

The plural of spacecraft is spacecraft, chump.

Only on Earth.

Drugs

[ArchieBunker]

He admitted to being high on painkillers during the entire recording session for his side project's debut album (Angels And Airwaves).

October Suprise?

[PvtVoid]

So this is the much-anticipated Wikileaks October Surprise? UFO emails from Blink 182? Julian needs to up his game and give us something just a tad more significant, like maybe Hillary's dry cleaning list or some of her Nigerian 401 spam.

Re: Hillary knows about the aliens

[Falconhell]

Wait! I see it all now, Hillary and Trump are REALLY Kang and Kodos. Dont vote for the wrong lizard. You know it makes sense.
Kodos2016

Project Mogul

[number6x]

This is an especially worthless leak because the documents dealing with the thing that crashed in Roswell in 1947 were already declassified back in the mid 1990's.

My freshman physics teacher, and undergraduate college advisor, worked on project mogul. He was part of the team that built the craft that crashed in Roswell in 1947. I learned college physics from one of the beings that built the craft that crashed in Roswell and started a UFO 'craze'! (He was a human being, but that is still a being.) New Mexico Tech was an amazing school. Professors like Charlie Moore, Sterling Colgate, and Bernie Vonnegut (Kurt's brother) made it a pretty exciting place.

I don't really understand the purpose of the 'leak' unless it is to show that some people who work with Hillary Clinton have some pretty wacky beliefs. Has anyone been paying attention to politics for the last few decades? This is not startling in any way. Finding evidence of a rational person, without wacky beliefs, involved in politics would be a world shattering revelation.

Re:Project Mogul

[macs4all]

I don't really understand the purpose of the 'leak' unless it is to show that some people who work with Hillary Clinton have some pretty wacky beliefs. Has anyone been paying attention to politics for the last few decades? This is not startling in any way. Finding evidence of a rational person, without wacky beliefs, involved in politics would be a world shattering revelation.

I can tell you what this is all about:

For whatever you think about the Clintons, they (both Bill and Hillary) do seem genuinely interested in the topic of UFOs. It is Bill Clinton, as President, that pressured the Air Force and Joint Chiefs and Congress and anyone he could pressure to come clean about Roswell, which prompted the Gummint to "declassify" the Project Mogul documents, and (supposedly) re-examine the Roswell crash "afresh".

So, I assume that the guy from Blink 182 knew that, and thought he would try and get some "access" to what he calculated was a "sympathetic ear" while he had an email address for someone close to Hillary.

Re:Project Mogul

[number6x]

Thanks,

That is interesting to know.

Re:Project Mogul

[macs4all]

Thanks,

That is interesting to know.

No problem. I'm actually surprised no one else here put that together.

CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD

[Thud457]

Not sure if he's thinking of ELO, Boston had a lot of UFOs on their album covers, too.

But surely this dude should already know the real truth.
Because teh intarwebs tell me that that the Space People communicate to the great unwashed through the medium of Rock n Roll. David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix and dozens of other examples have met the Space Brothers.

Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD

[macs4all]

Not sure if he's thinking of ELO, Boston had a lot of UFOs on their album covers, too.

Not as much as Yes' [alien landscapes*, UFO songs]. Even The Carpenters made a UFO song. Those were the days.

(*) Appropriated by the producers of Avatar without credits for Roger Dean. But I digress.

And let's not forget Klaatu. They had UFO/Alien-themed songs across at tleast two of their hard-to-find albums.

"Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" and "Anus from Uranus" (a HILARIOUS song, with lyrics that were recorded BACKWARDS with words phonetically-chose to sound like the words they wanted when played FORWARD). WAY cool!

Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD

[macs4all]

Sorry to Reply to my own post; but I want to correct the Klaatu reference:

The song with the Backwards lyrics was "Silly Boys", on their third album, "Sir Army Suit". They LYRICS from that song are from the song "Anus of Uranus" from their FIRST album, which I believe was called :"Sub Rosa Subway", How the backwards lyrics from one song ended up on another song is explained here.

Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD

[Zontar The Mindless]

Sorry to disappoint you, but they're not the Beatles.

Re:CHOSEN TO SHOW THE WORLD

[macs4all]

Sorry to disappoint you, but they're not the Beatles.

Oh, I know. I read all those things back then. But I still like a lot of their songs in small doses.

The have always had alien themes

[DarkOx]

Consider "Aliens Exist" form probably their most popular album "Enema of the State"

Hey mom there's something in the backroom
Hope it's not the creatures from above
You used to read me stories
As if my dreams were boring
We all know conspiracies are dumb
What if people knew that these were real
I'd leave my closet door open all night
I know the CIA would say
What you hear is all hearsay
I wish someone would tell me what was right
Up all night long
And there's something very wrong
And I know it must be late
Been gone since yesterday
I'm not like you guys
I'm not like you
I am still a skeptic yes you know me
Been best friends and will be till we die
I got an injection
Of fear from the abduction
My best friend thinks I'm just telling lies
Alright

Elvis for Prez!

[Tablizer]

Just when it looked like this election couldn't get any weirder, UFO's are injected into it.

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[wiredog]

Slashdot is big on Privacy but let's face it, if you send whack-job email to a public figure it may leak and embarrass you. So this guy really has nothing to complain about.

Let me be the first to say

[boudie2]

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

Drugs are bad

[kimvette]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Comments overridden by "shitty"

[TheDarkener]

This is ridiculous. Why allow such bias towards someone's musicianship when you're posting an article about something completely different? The comments are plagued now, very little to do with the topic of UFOs or whatever the fuck it was. I don't remember, I saw "shitty guitar riffs" and got agitated and wanted to post a comment rebuking it. Fucking Slashdot, get it together. I've been on since the year 2000 and this blatant editorial nonsense in an otherwise "News for Nerds" story just makes you look like you're from my high school newspaper in the 90's, talking about how shitty Offspring was because they played 3 riffs over and over. You know what, they played the SHIT out of those riffs, with more rhythm than you'll ever be able to produce out of your cynical ass.

See, now shit's turned into ass. Thanks, Slashdot!

All the small things

[unixisc]

Looks like WikiLeaks just did a document dump instead of checking what might be worth leaking, and what not. Although given that if they were selective about it, they'd be accused of shilling for either Trump or Clinton or the Russians, depending on which. So maybe it's good that they did it this way

Uh, don't you have some contrails to clean up

[mark_reh]

by spraying vinegar in their general direction?

Smoking gun links Putin with Trump

[Martin S.]

http://secondnexus.com/politic...

DeLonge working with General McCasland?

[khz6955]

"DeLonge said he's been working with someone named General McCasland"

Can 'General McCasland' corroborate DeLonges story?

Re: Hillary knows about the aliens

[__1200333]

I, for one, welcome our new .... oh.