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Google News Introduces Fact Check Feature -- Just In Time For the US Election (thenextweb.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Next Web: Google today introduced a new feature that will tag and help find "fact checking in large news stories." Tagged articles will show up in the new story box on news.google.com, as well as in the Google News and Weather app for iOS and Android in the US and UK. There's a two-pronged approach to detecting fact checking. First Google looks for actual markup in the site's source code. Then Google looks for pages "that follow the commonly accepted criteria for fact checks." You can learn more about the process here. To be clear, the tags show up in small grey text above the article links -- Google itself isn't passing judgement, nor does it tell you the source article's conclusion in search results. It's merely a sign that says "hey, read me to find out the truth." Still, it's a nice way to make sure readers are at least forming opinions based on fact rather than fiction.

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  1. Yeah. Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google will check with Hillary's campaign to see if it's okay to repeat the lies or just substitute their own. Credibility and truth will little to do with it.

    1. Re:Yeah. Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Oh look it's a Politifact shill. Totally not biased! Much neutral!

    2. Re:Yeah. Right by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful
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  2. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing like letting a group with publicly declared political affiliation put in automatic links to "TRUTH".
    I wonder how they'll rate the AP, the "news" org that tried to declare that Assad was an ISIS ally?
    Or NBC, which declared that Hillary did nothing wrong with her email server, because she used no "corrosive chemicals" to destroy evidence?
    Or Google, when they declared they were not cooperating with the NSA to deliver email content? Oh, wait...

    captcha: "erasable"

  3. OK but misses a larger problem by CQDX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    which is the burying of critical stories. All these released tapes and allegations of sexual assault should have come out long ago, at least before the RNC primary. Instead they were intentionally held to benefit HRC.

    1. Re:OK but misses a larger problem by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Informative

      which is the burying of critical stories. All these released tapes and allegations of sexual assault should have come out long ago, at least before the RNC primary. Instead they were intentionally held to benefit HRC.

      Actually it's just a case of what-goes-around-comes-around. Some of the women have explicitly stated that they were motivated to come out by his denials during the second debate.

      Poetic justice, IMO, after featuring Blll Clinton's accusers as the centerpiece of his strategy last weekend. He's outraged that anyone would be interested in the same accusations against him.

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    2. Re:OK but misses a larger problem by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I applaud these women. The vast, vast majority of women, sexually assaulted on a fucking airplane full of people by a goddamn billionaire would have immediately screamed bloody murder and filed lawsuits resulting in multi-million dollar settlements. But no, these brave, strong independent wymynz stoically held their silence for 30 goddamn years to all release their stories on the same day 4 weeks before an election for God and cuntry. There's nothing at all fishy about this to anyone except those who hate strong independent wymynz what don't need no man.

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    3. Re:OK but misses a larger problem by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Things were different 30 years ago. A woman who screamed bloody murder and filed lawsuits would have been slut shamed mercilessly. And she said that she expected that it would cost her her job in the meantime.

    4. Re:OK but misses a larger problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      https://i.sli.mg/iBUuJ9.png
      https://i.sli.mg/jbe6G3.png
      https://i.sli.mg/2jvEeE.jpg

      nothing fishy at all

    5. Re:OK but misses a larger problem by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The vast, vast majority of women, sexually assaulted on a fucking airplane full of people by a goddamn billionaire would have immediately screamed bloody murder and filed lawsuits resulting in multi-million dollar settlements.

      Do you believe Juanita Broderick? She waited twenty years to come forward.

      I can only imagine the frustration of being a Trump supporter and realizing that you have the one candidate who makes Bill Clinton's creepy sexual history meaningless. All you had to do is find a candidate who wasn't a skeeve, and yet you flocked to the self-professed skeeve like ants to a piece of rotting fruit.

      Donald Trump will never be president. Mark it down. Learn from your mistakes. And for chrissake, stop your whining.

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    6. Re:OK but misses a larger problem by Orgasmatron · · Score: 4, Informative

      She was scared to accuse the Attorney General of the state (who already had a body count). Also, in 1978, inviting a man up to her room could plausibly be taken the wrong way. Remember what Hillary had already done to Kathy Shelton a few years earlier. If Juanita had formally accused Bill of rape, she'd have been on the receiving end of all that, and probably much more.

      Still, she didn't keep completely silent, she told a few people, including a nurse that found her in bed a few hours after the attack, and some other close friends. Some of those people blabbed, and word got out. People hid tape recorders when talking to her in hopes of getting her to drop her guard and talk about it. She refused to talk about it, saying "you can't get to him, and I'm not going to ruin my good name to do it ... here's just absolutely no way anyone can get to him, he's just too vicious".

      After something like seven years of trying to get her to talk, the story was openly circulating in the tabloids with her name attached, and she finally relented.

      If you've seen any of the early interviews with her, it is pretty obvious why she didn't want to talk about it for 20 years. It is still a very painful memory for her, and she is visibly shaken when talking about it.

      There are some notable elements missing from Juanita's story. Until Trump tricked them, the press wouldn't touch her story with a 10 foot pole because it is missing these elements, which apparently dictate which stories are credible:
      * plagarism from other famous sexual assault cases and/or pop songs
      * robotic monotone retelling
      * claims that her attacker had superhuman strength (to bend a solid aluminum airline seat)
      * total silence even to her closest friends until the last few weeks before an election
      * contradictory stories told to close friends at the time of the incident
      * The One Ring to become invisible to slip past guard/chaperones stationed outside the door
      * laughably public setting
      * heavy involvement with the other candidate's campaign

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    7. Re:OK but misses a larger problem by Orgasmatron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh wow. Snopes calls it "Mostly False" because some of the ancillary details aren't right. Stop the fucking presses! Someone tell the New York Times that snopes is choking on Hillary's dick again!

      Also newsworthy, Politifact studiously avoided learning any details of the case that might contradict the headline they assigned to it in advance. Consider this one example:

      She is "discussing the crime lab's accidental destruction of DNA evidence that tied (the accused man, Thomas Alfred) Taylor to the crime." Destruction that led the prosecution to seek a plea deal on a lesser charge, according to the article.

      Which crime lab destroyed the evidence? Her crime lab destroyed the evidence. The state crime lab had a match already and handed the intact evidence over to the defense, which promptly destroyed it. Then, in a move that only a lawyer could love, the defense asked that the key evidence be thrown out because after destroying it, they were unable to verify the state lab's conclusion.

      And did you catch the extreme spin they put on the polygraph statement? Every human on the planet that understands English and is more than about 5 years old understood exactly what she meant. But not snopes! Nope, snopes spun that into a general laugh about the polygraph supporting the defense instead of the prosecution, because Hillary, with her extensive first-case-ever experience "knew" that the polygraph usually helps the prosecutor. That sounds like a good reason to laugh about losing all faith in polygraphs. Right? Right?

      Snopes and politifact are Marxist political opinion sites that only pretend to be interested in facts. (We can add Google to that list.) No one but fellow Marxists actually believes them any more. You remember the one where Trump and Sanders both quoted the same figure for black youth unemployment and they scored the Sanders one true and the Trump one false? Classic.

      Oh, and mustn't forget NBC. New to this game, but catching up fast.

      But good work ignoring the bulk of my post to concentrate on the one tiny part that you imagined you already had a good answer to.

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  4. Eric Schmidt is a giant Hillary Supporter by Crashmarik · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=...

    Hell the man built a company just to help Hillary (search for Hillary, Eric Schmidt, Groundgame)

    So just who is going to be able to fact check Google's already established bias ?
    https://www.techdirt.com/artic...
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09...

    I think I am going to start rotating search engines. Variety is likely for the best.

  5. Re:Oh Goody by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But who fact checks the fact checkers?

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  6. Google Facts by bestweasel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hoping this from one of the links will lead to better-informed comments:

    Fact Check
    Google News may apply this label to your content if you publish stories with fact-checking content that's indicated by schema.org ClaimReview markup, especially round-up stories that contain multiple fact-check analyses within a single article. The (fact-checking) label helps users find fact-checking content in major stories.

    When determining whether to use this tag for your article, consider whether that article meets the following criteria, which we consider characteristics of fact-checking sites:

    Discrete claims and checks must be easily identified in the body of fact-check articles. Readers should be able to understand what was checked, and what conclusions were reached.

    Analysis must be transparent about sources and methods, with citations and references to primary sources.

    The organization must be nonpartisan, with transparent funding and affiliations. It should examine a range of claims in its topic area, instead of targeting a single person or entity.

    Article titles must indicate that a claim is being reviewed, state the conclusions reached, or simply frame that the articleâ(TM)s contents consist of fact checking.

    Please note, that if we find sites not following those criteria for the ClaimReview markup, we may, at our discretion, either ignore that site's markup or remove the site from Google News.

  7. who owns the media, who owns the facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If something is never reported, it can never be fact checked.

    captcha: industry

  8. Re:If it's like Politifake, expect far left bias. by Jack9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess you are in the camp of "both are establishment", which makes no sense to me. They both have money and are elitist, but that's not the issue in a principate. This may literally be one of the last times (in anyone reading's lifetime) that the political arena will result in a choice between a self-appointed egoist (who basically scammed his way via celebrity) and a multinational political favorite for POTUS. This will poison that contest forever, either through his failure to win or his failure as a president.

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  9. """Fact check""" by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the type of fact checking they mean, I assume.

    They rate as "Mostly False" something where the only disputable fact is whether she "volunteered" for it, and it appears she didn't. Literally everything else in the little poster is demonstrably true, in fact they actually say the same thing below.

    Hillary Clinton volunteered to defend a rapist. False. OK, they're good there.

    Hillary Clinton alleged that the victim was lying/crazy. True. Snopes tries to be cute and claim that she's just repeating what some psychiatrist said, because.. you know.. defense lawyers never find an expert witness to say what they want. Sorry, fact is that Clinton accused the victim of being crazy. Sure, she used the "I have been told" weasel words, but as we know from Trumps similar tactic that means nothing. It's in the affidavit and she signed it.

    Hillary got the guy off a longer sentence, and laughed about it. True. Again, these are unarguable facts. You can certainly quibble over context, but the fact is that the guy got a reduced sentence, that she implied he was guilty, and that she laughed about said implication. All public record and undeniable.

    So tell me how that is "mostly false"? I might give them credit if they said "mixed" or "depends on context and interpretation". I can also see how even in the context of these facts you could say that none of it is a big deal, and that's a valid interpretation. But just "Mostly False"? No. It's isn't.

  10. Re:Expect conservative meltdown. by quenda · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its not only conservatives who ignore or deny reality when it conflicts with their beliefs.
    Liberals can have their own blind-spots to science, such as gender and racial differences.

  11. Re:Expect conservative meltdown. by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 4, Informative

    That is true. Genders and races are a real thing and there are differences between them. Not just outward appearances, but real physical or intellectual differences. On average, men are physically stronger than women, women are emotionally more stable and less aggressive than men, white people are more intelligent than black people, black men have longer ... you know, than white men.

    On average.
    But down to the level of individuals, it's unfair to judge people based on averages. Do you consider yourself an average person? On an individual level, everyone is different.
    But the key point is that, even though people are different in many ways, be it race, gender or their individual characteristics, they all deserve to be treated the same and given the same chances. Because we are all humans with our hopes, dreams, emotions and potential, regardless of physical or intellectual ability.

    In fact, many times it's the people who are at a disadvantage that perform big acts and change the world. Being handicapped in a way, but having the need for respect and recognition, is one of the strongest motivators. Short men like Napoleon and Hitler set out to conquer Europe. Physically unattractive people tend to follow intellectual pursuits and provide humanity with great innovations. Socially disadvantaged people like Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks engaged themselves politically and managed to change a nation.

    This is why I think that "fascism" as an ideology is wrong. At first glance it might sound like a brutal, but scientifically logical idea to weed out the "weak" and only breed the pure and strong. But often times it's the "weak" who accomplish great things and move humanity forward, because they are the ones who are out there to prove themselves. Not to mention that science also tells us that genetic homogeneity is a weakness whereas diversity and the mixing of genes is critical for long-term survival.

  12. Re:Expect conservative meltdown. by Pete+(big-pete) · · Score: 5, Funny

    black men have longer ... you know, than white men

    Prison sentences?

    -- Pete.

  13. Re: Expect conservative meltdown. by Entrope · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "There was no classified information on that server. None."
    "It was not classified at the time."
    "It was not marked classified."
    "I relied on others to properly handle classified information."

    Should I continue? Perhaps on transparency, or bribes, or when we should trust rape accusers?

  14. Re:You do, obviously by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is they're really just propaganda and get cited as if they're authority.

    Jeb Bush: "My name is Jeb Bush."

    Politificat: "Pants on fire! His real name is John Ellis Bush."

    When Snopes gets political they do the stawman thing. If you make Claim A, they'll restate your claim as B, which is similar to A but not actually A, then debunk B calling it "mostly false," and then at the end say "what's actually true is A..." But all the casual observer sees is that you're a liar making mostly false claims, even though your claim was entirely true.

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