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Television Needs To Be Reinvented, Says Apple SVP (businessinsider.com)

Eddy Cue, Senior Vice President of Internet Software and Service at Apple, isn't happy with the current state of how people watch TV. He said we currently live with a "glorified VCR," the interface of our current TV is the problem and we need to reinvent it. Cue pointed out a number of other issues he has with today's TV:"It's really hard to use [a cable box or satellite TV]. Setting something to record, if you didn't watch something last night, if you didn't set it to record, it's hard to find, it may not be available. There may be some rights issues," Cue said. "It's great to be able to tell your device, 'I wanna watch the Duke basketball game, I don't care what channel it's on.' I just want to watch the Duke basketball game. Today you got to bring in the TV, go through the guide, find which sports programs or whatever -- it's just hard to do."

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  1. I wonder... by slapout · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...if Apple has a new product to help with that

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    1. Re:I wonder... by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Unless they're buying out TiVo, they're already second to market... I haven't cared in a LONG time what channel or time my show is coming on, I just use the TiVo app on my phone to search for what I want and magically it appears on my screen. Want to watch a series? Not a problem! My TiVo will assemble all the episodes of that series on the DVR from any source it can get it from including recording it from air, netflix, amazon prime, hulu, etc. Full disclaimer: I have no affiliation with TiVo in the slightest... except I own one and it obviates the problem described above.

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    2. Re:I wonder... by praxis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unless they're buying out TiVo, they're already second to market...

      You're right, Apple being second to market has always left them as a loser in that market. iPod: "Less space than a nomad. Lame."

    3. Re:I wonder... by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      Bad news. I just invented time travel, and rather than do something worthwhile like kill Hitler (or, in some other way, ensure he never gains power) I've decided to cause minor annoyances for other Slashdotters.

      I'm going to go back in time, suggest to Steve Jobs he adds a scroll wheel to the iPod, and change history so it becomes the most popular MP3 player of all time, and Creative becomes an also ran rather than the inventor of the cPhone!

      That'll make the comment you just wrote look ridiculous!

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    4. Re:I wonder... by amxcoder · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The problem with I see with how they described it is a big one... "I don't care what channel it's on, I just want to watch xyz". However, over the years, whether I had DirecTV, UVerse, or cable, is that the same show is duplicated on a variety of channels, some of which are in the "Guide" but that a user might not get. For instance, with DirecTV, if you wanted to watch Big Bang Theory as an example, the show would be populated on half a dozen channels in the Guide and different times.

      For instance, it would show up on West Coast local channel (which I would get) standard definition, it would also show up on Central Local channel (which I don't get due to regional restrictions), and same for East Coast Local channel... Then all 3 of those same channels are duplicated as HD channels in the Guide as well. All 6 of these would be the current latest episode, and all 6 were at different local times due to time zone differences, however only 2 of those are a channel I get, and I prefer recording in HD when avail, so only 1 is the 'correct' channel/time. If the DVR recorded the wrong one, I would be greeted with a blank recording. That's why I think most DVR systems make you select the show and channel you want to watch, and it will stick with that.

      Another issue, is when you add in the complexity of syndication for shows that have current episodes on major networks, and older syndicated episodes on various other extended channels (sometimes playing more than one episode per day for those syndicated episodes), and what you would end up is the DVR trying to 'guess' which is the correct version of the show you want to record out of a possible 6-12 different possibilities on various channels, time-slots, resolutions, and new episode/re-run episodes.

      The cable companies don't make it easy, and neither do the channel networks. Depending on the DVR/Set-Top-Box you use, sometimes the guide is customizable to eliminate channels, but this takes hours to go through and setup on each receiver. Some, like ATT UVerse, won't let your customized list be used as the default, so it takes like 3-6 button presses to get to your customized guide list instead of the "All channels we serve from all packages" monolithic channel guide, which is horrible. Why cable companies still serve you SD channels when you subscribe to HD package is something I've never been able to figure out, other than it makes it LOOK like you are getting twice as many channels as you really do. All of this is frustrating from a human perspective, DVR's can only make it so easy before they start guessing at what you want.

      Maybe the example given is easy to do, when you are talking about live sports games (all though, those get blacked out locally many times as well) that don't get reruns, are usually broadcast on single channels who have the contracts... But I don't think a DVR can know what you're intentions are by just saying, "I want you to record Big Bang Theory" are, just as another person wouldn't understand your intentions either without a bit more specific information, like SD/HD, what is your current channel package, new episode or rerun, it's playing in an hour, but you have another recording already scheduled, which show is more important to you? etc...

    5. Re:I wonder... by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

      Eh, Kodi's just a front end. I use mplayer over SSH sometimes. There are dozens of other front ends people can use.

      The real 'TV reinvented" is the auto downloaders like sickbeard and couch potato. I haven't known when my shows air since I went to college in 2001. Now it's add the show, I get notified when a download is done.

  2. This is dumb by HBI · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The rights holders are the problem and will never allow this.

    The fragmentation of media into smaller entities is a good thing and while the complexity goes up, the result is a buffet of entertainment for any mildly skilled geek due to the broken technologies that resulted from this lack of coordination. Apple can talk and talk about fixing the brokenness but nothing is going to happen. Mainly because no one can figure out how to make money off of it except Apple.

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    1. Re:This is dumb by bluegutang · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The rights holders are the problem and will never allow this.

      That's what they said about iTunes, and Apple found a way. So I wouldn't count them out here...

    2. Re:This is dumb by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The recording industry has had a broad royalty scheme for a long time where any radio station can pay fees into the system and then play pretty much any recording ever made. The TV and Movie industries need to adopt a similar scheme to enable the next giant leap in home entertainment. You pay a fee to an aggregator and then freely choose from any entertainment product ever recorded.

  3. Apple is using cable wrong. by downright · · Score: 2

    Your cable DVR uses voice commands for that stuff... You just call Comcast on your phone, press 0, then just keep saying "Duke basketball game" until it appears on your TV.

  4. Alternatively... by nickovs · · Score: 2

    Alternatively, you could just ditch the TV altogether and go read book.

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  5. already been reinvented by ecorona · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Netflix already reinvented it, at least for many of us. You're not going to pull another iphone success story this time around.

  6. blackouts, lack of channel choice, forced hardware by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    sports blackouts, lack of channel choice, forced to use and rent there hardware or pay outlet fess.

    Are the real things that need to be fixed.

    Also the pay TV distributors that cram ad's on each F* page of the guide need to go as well.

  7. It's not about needing to re-invent, its 'control' by mozkill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't buy the theory that TV needs to re-invented and that it is the reason for driving change. The powers that be wan't people to believe that though. I think its probably more about being the first to introduce new technology and whoever does that (as seen by Google and Facebook) will 'control' the new distribution model. That is what its really about.

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  8. Re:Hollywood loves reboots by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    I'd be a lot happier with Hulu if they didn't plaster the local station logo in the corner of the screen, which is somewhat distracting for me.

    Other than that, I feel that TV has already been rebooted just fine. I have a massive on-demand selection that I can watch at any time for a reasonable price. And no commercials at all, as I value my own time. I cut the cable a decade or so ago, and don't miss it at all. You can sign up for half a dozen streaming services and still you're probably paying equal to or less than basic cable. Of course, you do have to factor in internet connection costs, but most people want that service anyhow.

    If Apple wants to create a compelling streaming service, they'll have to compete with existing services out there. I'm happy to take a look and see if it's worth a subscription. But since I have consoles that run any streaming app just fine, I can't imagine myself wanting any hardware they could possibly offer.

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  9. I have no problems at all by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    I just go and grab the torrent if I missed it.

    What needs to change is BULLSHIT copyright laws.

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  10. Clueless Apple SVP by JustNiz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >> "It's great to be able to tell your device, 'I wanna watch the Duke basketball game, I don't care what channel it's on.' ...which is exactly what I've already been doing for years (and for $0.00 give or take a few watts) with my Linux-based media PC that is running MythTV and plugged into an OTA antenna.

  11. Re:First thing that's gotta go by acoustix · · Score: 2

    I don't think Apple wants to use proprietary connectors. In the past, they have fully embraced standard connectors, when those connectors were good enough. They ditched ADB when USB came out, and they ditched FireWire when USB got fast enough to transfer video.

    What they won't do is use a standard connector if they feel that all standard options are compromises. When they felt the need to move away from the 30 pin iPod connector, they felt that the USB options were insufficient (not fast enough, not enough power for charging tablets, and most importantly, not reversible), so they developed Lightning to solve those shortcomings. I think if USB-C had existed at the time, Lightning might never have been developed.

    Except that lightning has transfer issues as well. It cannot send 1080p video at 30FPS, let alone the 4K video that it's camera can shoot.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with multiple ports on a device. I love having separate micro USB, micro HDMI and audio jacks so that I don't have to buy overpriced adapter cables. Hell, put all three ports on the bottom so that it can be docked the same way.

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  12. Well duh get to work! by TheSync · · Score: 2

    If only Apple made something to change the interface to television, oh I don't know, an Apple TV...

    Stop complaining and start coding!

    BTW Comcast X1 is gaining a lot of useful features, such as "Team Reminders" for sporting events, "People Also Watched", Custom Playlists for DVR, etc.

  13. Re:First thing that's gotta go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think Apple wants to use proprietary connectors.

    LOL. My office is all Apple and every workspace is a mess of proprietary adapters and the only purpose they serve is to connect Apple products to other Apple products.