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American 'Vigilante Hacker' Defaces Russian Ministry's Website (ksat.com)
An anonymous Slashdot reader quotes CNN Money:
An American vigilante hacker -- who calls himself "The Jester" -- has defaced the website of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in retaliation for attacks on American targets... "Comrades! We interrupt regular scheduled Russian Foreign Affairs Website programming to bring you the following important message," he wrote. "Knock it off. You may be able to push around nations around you, but this is America. Nobody is impressed."
In early 2015, CNN Money profiled The Jester as "the vigilante who hacks jihadists," noting he's a former U.S. soldier who now "single-handedly taken down dozens of websites that, he deems, support jihadist propaganda and recruitment efforts. He stopped counting at 179." That article argues that "the fact that he hasn't yet been hunted down and arrested says a lot about federal prosecutors and the FBI. Several cybersecurity experts see it as tacit approval."
"In an exclusive interview with CNNMoney this weekend, Jester said he chose to attack Russia out of frustration for the massive DNS cyberattack that knocked out a portion of the internet in the United States on Friday... 'I'm not gonna sit around watching these f----rs laughing at us.'"
In early 2015, CNN Money profiled The Jester as "the vigilante who hacks jihadists," noting he's a former U.S. soldier who now "single-handedly taken down dozens of websites that, he deems, support jihadist propaganda and recruitment efforts. He stopped counting at 179." That article argues that "the fact that he hasn't yet been hunted down and arrested says a lot about federal prosecutors and the FBI. Several cybersecurity experts see it as tacit approval."
"In an exclusive interview with CNNMoney this weekend, Jester said he chose to attack Russia out of frustration for the massive DNS cyberattack that knocked out a portion of the internet in the United States on Friday... 'I'm not gonna sit around watching these f----rs laughing at us.'"
I mean: Russian's federation policy *is* pretty disgusting. Nobody likes Putin. But still: how stupid is this Jester. (S)he should be taking down IoT manufacturer's websites instead, because we *know* those are involved somehow, and Russia... pfeh. Could be, could not be.
If that's all the "free world" can muster, we're doomed. Ugh.
The FBI will probably investigate these hacks as soon as the victims come forward and cooperate with the investigations.
Which, considering that they are violating various US laws themselves, doesn't seem very likely.
It's lousy pro-jihadist/pro-Russian propaganda to suggest that the FBI should investigate various random crimes, by someone of only self-described nationality, targeting non-US people using servers in unknown jurisdictions, when there's no clear nexus to US jurisdiction.
Trump is the best candidate that can ease these US/Russia foreign relations and bring peace between our tremendous countries.
November 8 can't come soon enough before these bad linux hackers start World War 3 with their antics.
I put very little faith in the FBI nowadays. They have proven themselves to be just a political weapon of whoever is in power. Their shiny reputation is somewhat tarnished. I doubt they'll ever be trusted again to be impartial and nonpartisan.
I don't think anybody should go to jail for defacing a website, but somebody should give him a slap on the wrist.
I used to follow some of what The Jester wrote. There are a number of people out there who think he's overrated, more brag than anything else. Still, I saw some pretty clever things out of him. For example, at one point he was going after some other hacking collective (I don't recall which one), and he announced a successful attack against them and posted a list of all of their names and real IP addresses. Only, the list wasn't real. Instead, anyone who tried to download the list had their connection logged and probed, an exploit used to trigger the computer to make a (real) TCP connection back to one of his computers, and a number of automated attacks launched against targets it considered particularly suspect (for example, if there was evidence of being logged into a known member twitter account). I.e., it wasn't actually a list of suspects, it was bait to build a list of suspects. I think he did the same trick with QR codes later.
"99 dead duelists of Dios on the wall. 99 dead duelists of Dios! Take one's ring, pass it around..."
They play a prank like this every October 23. It's like your April Fools day jokes. This one was poking fun at your average American, but now that your news sites are reporting it as real, it just got a hundred times more funny.
Will he be extradited, like people who do the same get send to the US?
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/932/
WW3 started by people still in their PJs?
Dude is fucking lost in the sea of propaganda! He will attack ANYTHING that his TV says is against America. Its sad really.
Is this clown (sorry clowns!) still around? Mark or something, the ex-Dell dude? He's mostly hot air and self-congratulatory nonsense. Love how Russia smacked down his defacement in a matter of hours. The dummy thought the Russians would all be asleep at 4 kin the morning and the 'hack' would be up until Monday. bwahaha.
Says a lot that the FBI or whoever haven't arrested him over his past actions on Twitter. Still, he only has his own bravado to keep him popping up from his bunker of paranoia and anti-"anything but the US OF A" pro-military bullshit.
I'm sure the Russians and anyone else who can remember it are still laughing at him :)
When Russians attack, they make your Internet go down and fuck up your elections.
When Americans attack, they spray some graffiti on your site.
How nice.
> An American vigilante hacker -- who calls himself "The Jester" -- has defaced the website of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
The Jester will soon have to decide between two gifts offered to him by Putin: a teabag of polonium-210 isotope or a nice icepick (with ornamental rosewood handle)?
Eh, come on. I do agree with you in that the FBI doesn't really have anything to go on; it's not like Russia is going to turn over server logs, and Russia hasn't shown any interest in stopping their own hackers. Still, I heavily disagree with your justification; you're essentially using Putin's very same justifications, but of course you act upset in return. He's posting very pro-US messages, he appears to be doing so in English, and there are rumors connecting him as a former soldier no less. That obviously doesn't prove anything for certain, but it would be good will of the FBI to provide some assistance given that he appears to be linked in multiple ways. no? If this very same hacker posted in Russian, posted Russian propaganda, and was rumored to be a former KGB agent, you would think it's justified to assume he's Russian, yes?
Secondly, if you know exactly where a hacker is located, there's no need to investigate him any farther because you've already compromised him at that point, the law hasn't really caught up to that yet. It'd be the same if the police demanded to have an eyewitness and video proof before they opened a case; if the FBI demands he's already compromised, they may as well refuse to help at all.
Now, whether I think he should be investigated is a different story altogether, I don't mind the Russians getting a taste of their own medicine, but you may as well say straight up it's in return for their lack of cooperation - don't try to pretend it's anything else.
"Set a man a fire, he'll be warm for the rest of the night. Set a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
A disinclination to prosecute people just because they don't happen to agree with your politics *is* impartial and non-partisan. This is not a bug, but rather, a feature.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
When one considers Russia has an office in St. Petersburg out of which it pays an army of online trolls to spew Russian propaganda or muddy the waters by making false statements and outright lies about Russia's invasion of Ukraine, one person from the U.S., doing this on his own without government backing, doesn't quite rise to the level of nuisance.
Sure, Putin is probably miffed this has been done and is looking for payback, but when one is spending millions of dollars every year to pay people (not to mention their vodka allotment) to do your bidding, and providing them the equipment to do so, one person isn't going to make a difference.
Had he instead posted pictures of the unmarked graves of Russian soldiers who have died during the invasion of Ukraine, that would have been different and had a greater impact. Not that Putin cares about the over 2,000 soldiers who have so far died during the invasion, including colonels within the Russian military who are working to support the invasion, but it would have been a nice touch to rub Putin's nose into how badly Russia miscalculated and is suffering because of Putin's ego.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Defacing a website that they put up is just as impressive as painting a building with graffiti. When they start leaking documents that embarrass Russia's politicians, then and only then will you have people's attention.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Considering the stuff that's come out from leaked emails including stuff like Hillary knowingly ordering the destruction of data even after demands for the data under law? You can take the link as you want, it does have backlinks to all of the previous leaked emails, previous statements and so on. That means she/they was lying, ignored official requirements, or simply believe they're so big they can avoid prosecution. So that leaves us with: Either the FBI is incompetent, turned a blind eye, or someone was holding a sword over their head in recommending prosecution.
This isn't even touching the pay-for-play stuff including the 12m payment to the clinton foundation while she was still sec. of state for her to come speak to the king of morocco. Or the enlistment of journalists/columnists to attack political candidates using her talking points.
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Maybe NSA/Cyber Command was aware of the insecure server - maybe it was even their direct link into the servers in Kremlin.
Now the Ruskies will be patching the server (and maybe other insecure servers) like crazy.
good luck with that as you can tell they have a bit more security.....the only leaks would have to come from paid for spies and they want to keep those going ya know.....
My justification for the FBI not investigating these attacks is only that the there's no obvious US jurisdiction, and none of the victims seem likely to ask the FBI to investigate while providing information that could establish US jurisdiction. Why do you disagree strongly with that?
The rest of your beef seems to be that I have different standards for thinking the FBI should formally investigate a computer crime from other people have for attributing nationalities to the perpetrators of computer crimes. Do you think there should be just one standard for those two different things? If so, why?
ZeroHedge and DailyCaller are not reliable sources for anything.
So actual documents, actual statements, and actual sources aren't reliable? Nice media bubble you're living in. I bet mediamatters is good though.
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Nop
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So when a Russian, allegedly, does it to the DNC it's because Putin.
When an American does it to Russia it's "Oh, look at that vigilante that we don't condone at all".
Martha Stewart went to federal prison for much less than Hillary Clinton and her cronies did, and with much less firm evidence against Stewart. Clinton benefited from a grotesque double standard that you have to be mindless not to see.
As long as nobody in the 'Mainstream Media' says it happened, it didn't happen. No matter what evidence might exist.
In Russia in the 1950's, as long as it wasn't published in Pravda, it didn't happen.
Jester, the ol' "patriotic" lamer is back folks! The same idiot who made shit tier tools, is a skid, has his ''''''ub3r hacking laptop'''''' in a museum, and whose site is just crap propaganda. WEWLADS.
The guy is a joke, assuming its a guy, and not a made up persona by some military folks. jester can kiss my ass
There's people sitting in leavenworth for doing less then what she did.
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I thought it was Wikileakians, not Russians, who took USA down?
At least, so it was written on the internets.
Looking at the screen grab of the so-called hacked RMFA page, it looks nothing like a RMFA webpage. The screen grab shows no web address, and is nothing like the RFMA website. Only the gullible will believe this propaganda.
"when there's no clear nexus to US jurisdiction"
That has never stopped them in the past. This time, the targets of the hacks are "the bad guys" so who cares, right?
"Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
Since this Jester fellow is looking for attention & publicity for his deeds, he'll get caught. The best hacks are the ones you never hear about because those guys are smart enough to never speak about it and they DON'T SEEK YOUR APPROVAL.
> This guy isn't a friend to American democracy. He's just appalled at Trump for selling out to the commies.
What a beautifully twisted propaganda narrative you have there.
It's like you're posting from 1985? The only commies these days are in the Democratic party and they are out in the open.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
There is no proof that Russia caused the DNS attacks. Why would they? This dumb shithead starts acting on behalf of his whole country according to himself, and what's worse is that his government just lets it happen. This is how they say to all Americans, hey if you can attack Russians somehow, go and do it, because we will let it slide.
Ah yes, the next hacker will be called "Anonymous Coward," of course with two spaces and a comma just to confuse people. Let's demonize all them Rooskies out there on the other side of the world so that we can blame them for the upcoming economic collapse. Or them Rooskies hate Illery so much they're going to rig the elections, so you should vote for Illery. So let's get US veteran to lone wolf hack all of Rooskies and get 'em to ICBM themselves and we can say all "OOOOOOOOOOhhhhh RRRAAAWWWHHHH" and wave American flags because them Rooskies just newked themselves and we got Illery in office because them Rooskies wanted Trump in office because Illery says so. Remember, Trump is backed by them Rooskies, and Illery, and ONLY Illery, will ensure that we go to nuclear war with them Rooskies and come out the victor of the, uh, new world order? Ooooohhrrraaaawwwhhhhh!!!!
Come to think of it, we haven't seen Steve Miller lately...
True, we just nab people when they're at tech conferences, like Dmitry Skylarov.
Seems like a lot of knee-jerk reactions going on to something that nobody can really explain with any certainty, we can't decide who's responsible but let's lash out in a very predictable way. This will only incite more random rage, and that's not helpful.
Is this what we want? A cyberwar that will just end up with everyone erecting barriers and limits on worldwide internet access, not to mention more monitoring and pushes for user identification and authorization? Only ones who want this is the government, thanks for making it easier for this to happen, asshats.
> Why not? What's so hard to believe about a foreign power doing something to influence an election in a way that has direct benefit to them, followed by a vigilante doing something very minor in return?
If they wanted to influence American politics, they could donate to the Clinton Foundation like everyone else.
I know a few of you guys are here, trolling the site.
Listen, your boy is imploding. He's already done much worse than shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, but he still has a whole bunch of really, REALLY stupid people following him.
His campaign supporters DB is going to be SCAMMER. SOLID. GOLD. It will be full of the political equivalent of "stump broke mules".
People that can be misled into doing ANYTHING.
Basically, prime scam targets.
Don't let this opportunity go to waste, eh?
> This guy isn't a friend to American democracy. He's just appalled at Trump for selling out to the commies.
What a beautifully twisted propaganda narrative you have there.
It's like you're posting from 1985? The only commies these days are in the Democratic party and they are out in the open.
Hey Ivan!
Here's one for ya!
I'm sure the FBI still has many honest employees that are proud of what the FBI is supposed to stand for and are sick of what's transpiring. The problem is, they aren't the ones with the public face or the political power to make decisions.
We can only hope that they'll do the right thing and return some honor to the organization.
He only gets his information from the Clinton News Network or affiliates. You know, the media sources that the leaked emails show that the DNC is using as surrogates for their political moves.
No better than ignoring those filthy capitalists, only taking the word of Our Glorious Leader.
Translation: The FBI didn't buy into my conspiracy theory, therefore the problem is with the FBI.
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Cherry picked and quote mined parts of vast document dumps are not reliable. We've been down this road with Climategate. You can literally make any text say anything providing you 1. freely mine it for quotes and 2. rely on those who share your prejudices won't fact check your quote mines.
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'My politics' are that politicians should be held to a higher standard, not a higher standard for conviction. Make all the excuses you want, appeal to tradition, appeal to popularity, claim that laws should only be enforced when they can be enforced 100% of the time, point at the other team and say your team is no better, call me naive because you're comfortable with a massive problem. Whatever.
The "mindless' one is about as liberal lefty looney as it gets which suits me just fine. His comments are both entertaining (in a sad way) an eye-opening as to how ignorant democrats can be at the same time.
So remind me again what she did that differs from what Powell did when he ran his private email server? Or what the RNC did when they ran a large portion of the White House email traffic on their servers and conveniently forgot to make any backups?
22 million of emails from the Bush area are still missing.
Colin Powell used a private email account (not server) only for things that the State Department didn't have a functional email server for. Hillary Clinton avoided using the State Department's perfectly functional system.
Colin Powell only used it for unclassified communications. Hillary Clinton used her email server to receive and send up to TOP SECRET communications.
Colin Powell did not hire personal staff to the State Department basically for the purposes of supporting his private email account. Hillary Clinton brought one of her techs to State so he could more easily support her email server.
Colin Powell did not affirmatively choose to delete emails were under both subpoena in private lawsuits and Congressional investigation. Hillary Clinton did.
Colin Powell did not put his name on a memo that reminded State Department staff of the department policy to avoid using personal email if at all possible, because no such policy existed at the time. Hillary Clinton did put her name to such a memo, because the policy existed before she took office there.
Colin Powell did not have staff who needed immunity agreements from the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton did, even for things that should not need such agreements, like producing a laptop.
Colin Powell was not represented by lawyers who had conflicts of interest by being potential subjects of investigation over email misuse. Hillary Clinton was -- in fact, one of her lawyers got an immunity deal while representing Clinton.
You have been led around by the nose. Stop being such a tool.
Unsurprisingly, the Republican National Committee operated an email server for White House staff to use for partisan communications and purposes. Unsurprisingly, it's illegal to use federal property for purposes like that. Unsurprisingly, there's no federal law that requires the RNC to retain its internal communications indefinitely, like there is for federal records.
Martha Stewart went to federal prison for much less than Hillary Clinton and her cronies did, and with much less firm evidence against Stewart. Clinton benefited from a grotesque double standard that you have to be mindless not to see.
"When questioned by the SEC and the FBI in the months following her trade, Stewart said she had no knowledge of Waksal’s trade and that she had sold on a standing agreement with her broker to sell if shares traded below $60. Bacanovic corroborated the story, but his assistant Faneuil eventually came forward and revealed the truth, furthering the case against Stewart. Later, Stewart’s own assistant, Annie Armstrong, testified that Stewart had tried to change a record of Bacanovic’s phone message to her about ImClone."
That's pretty firm, actually.
So what you are saying is that both Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton should be in jail?
Good. I'm glad we can agree!
Unsurprisingly, the Republican National Committee operated an email server for White House staff to use for partisan communications and purposes.
So we are supposed to believe that the VP office did not produce emails for days on end during some of the most critical time stretches of the Iraq war?
Who has been lead around on the nose exactly?
The number of classified emails that went through Hillary's server are BTW 22. Most of them were not classified at the time, the once that were didn't have the classification in the header, they were only marked in the body.
http://www.politico.com/story/...
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/...
I hope he is taking appropriate precautions, Putin has proven he's not to be trifled with, I would be worried about a Polonium Chipotle burrito in your future.......
Considering the stuff that's come out from leaked emails including stuff like Hillary knowingly ordering the destruction of data even after demands for the data under law? You can take the link as you want, it does have backlinks to all of the previous leaked emails, previous statements and so on. That means she/they was lying, ignored official requirements, or simply believe they're so big they can avoid prosecution.
You might want to have a closer look at your source (and the actual evidence your source is using).
In Dec 2014, after delivering the first batch of emails to the FBI, Clinton decided to change the retention policy to 60-days (which would nuke all the old emails), but the sysadmin didn't actually do it.
In early March 2014 the House Committee issues a subpoena, in late March 2014 the sysadmin realized he hadn't carried out the request from back in December.
What Clinton and her team have maintained is that the sysadmin made the decision to violate the subpoena by belatedly carrying out the deletions on his own.
You may not believe it, but neither the sysadmin (who got immunity) nor the emails you're citing here, actually contradict that narrative.
This isn't even touching the pay-for-play stuff including the 12m payment to the clinton foundation while she was still sec. of state for her to come speak to the king of morocco.
Again your interpretation is contradicted by the first sentence of your source!
"Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arranged a $12 million donation from Moroccan King Mohammed VI to her family’s charity in 2014 in return for the Clinton Global Initiative hosting its international meeting in the North African Muslim nation, according to an email made public Thursday by Wikileaks."
Of course it's not entirely your fault, the Daily Caller is apparently convinced that a charity doing something for a major donor is somehow wrong.
I stole this Sig
Stop trying to hijack the thread, you hack.
... this Jester is plain stupid, I mean going against the webpage of the only people who would give (or pretend to give) at least a little shit about the DNS attacks and that is barely visited by the ministry itself instead of attacking something more noticeable. Stupid and coward, is like doing a DDoS attack on Google/Apple/Facebook ToS webpage :v
I put very little faith in the FBI nowadays. They have proven themselves to be just a political weapon of whoever is in power. Their shiny reputation is somewhat tarnished. I doubt they'll ever be trusted again to be impartial and nonpartisan.
The FBI has never had a shiny reputation. The FBI has never been trusted to be impartial. What they have been is authoritarian, and occasionally effective.
The legacy of J. Edgar Hoover lives on.
The persecution complex Trump's supporters exhibit ought to keep him business for years.
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No, what's being said is that this is a manufactured scandal
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And does that hold true for Trump?
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And does that hold true for Trump?
Yes. Now will you stop apologizing for your criminal and we can move on?
I know. Someone needs to dig up Nixon and offer an apology. The things this woman did...good grief.
I answered on point to things you raised. If anybody hijacked the thread, is was you with your original comment lambasting Hillary.
Anyhow, unsurprising that it didn't take long for you to show your true colors.
Aw, the ignorant little spouter of off-topic and factually wrong talking points doesn't like being identified as such. Guess what: Slashdot isn't a safe space, and you're going to get called on false equivalencies and falsehoods. Go away and come back when you know how any of the relevant laws work.
Well, thanks for letting me know that the current Republican director of the FBI does not know how the law works.
Anyhow, feel free to call me any names you want. Maybe that helps with your anger management so that you stop beating your wife.
Had she been charged with something?
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You do highlight more relevant distinctions between Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton, though:
Colin Powell did not forward information marked classified. Hillary Clinton did.
Colin Powell did not direct underlings to remove classification information from hard copies before sending it over non-secure networks. Hillary Clinton did.
In fact, Hillary Clinton forwarded the "marked classified but not in the header" email a year after she told her subordinate to handle information in just that manner. Of course, she still had an obligation to protect and preserve the classified information -- but you apparently bought her excuses to the contrary. In fact, she had a further obligation to report the spill and work with appropriate security officers to remedy it, and she failed in that duty as well.
Actually I'd be surprised if he didn't since this is anything but a rare occurrence. And of course we have no idea what has been discussed in these 22 million missing emails from the Bush area.
That article doesn't suggest that either "forwarding information marked classified" or "direct[ing] underlings to remove classification" blocks/markings is at all common. Why is your reading comprehension so awful? Did you get dropped on your head as a baby?
Meanwhile, your overactive imagination is making you hear voices about what was on an email server that was required by federal law to exist and be used for specific purposes, and you're ignoring that Hillary Clinton got caught lying about what was in the emails she deleted.
Of how laws apply to some but not to others.
Funny, how this totally legal and required RNC operated email system only became known when "the White House's deputy director of political affairs, was using a gwb43.com email address to discuss the firing of the U.S. attorney for Arkansas."
To quote the wikipedia article on the matter.
Totally not government business.
Obviously, I cannot attest to how I was handled as a baby (since I was a baby) but your cognitive functions are clearly impaired by neurodegenerative partisanitis.
The point was that oftentimes classified info is sent over unsecured channels. And it happens to the best of them, to quote from the article:
A spokesman at the C.I.A., Ryan Trapani, said in a statement that Mr. Brennan had believed that the information he sent in the email was unclassified.
"When operating in a position like he was at the White House, officials often have to make spot judgments about whether information is classified or not," he wrote.
"In most cases, the determinations are correct, but in some situations, another agency may consider certain information classified that the author does not."
Or maybe the FBI doesn't investigate this case because they have better things to do? De-facing a website ranks right up there with jay walking at 2:00 AM in the morning when there is no traffic.
Now turn this case around with a Russian doing the same thing to a US website and the majority of morons on this forum would be applauding the technological skills displayed by the hacker and since it was a US site they deserved to be hacked.
. Their shiny reputation is somewhat tarnished. I doubt they'll ever be trusted again to be impartial and nonpartisan.
The FBI had a shiny reputation? Where do you live?
A. That post is completely incorrect. There are commies, ie. communists - or else Russia, China, etc wouldn't still self identify as communist.
B. Democrats appear to be less tolerant of communists these days than Republicans do. With the Republican party all sucky on Putin currently, it's certainly not the democrats who are cozying up.
So wrong in fact, and wrong in spirit. But I'll give you a C- for the random mention of 1985, which was a fun year.
Pour cela, il semble utile d’écouter celles et ceux qui portent le discours de la Silicon Valley. Andreessen Horowitz est connu pour sa capacité à anticiper le business des technologies. Early investor dans Facebook, Airbnb, Pinterest, Twitter L’entreprise de capital-risque de Menlo Park a soutenu très tôt des startups comme Lyft ou encore Local Motion. Ne prenez donc pas ce qui va suivre comme une analyse d’experts indépendants mais bien comme le point de vue d’investisseurs qui ont un intérêt direct à ce que le “marché” croit en leur vision. Cela n’enlève rien à la pertinence de leurs analyses. Surtout lorsque c’est Benedict Evans, spécialiste du business mobile chez Andreessen-Horowitz qui s’y colle. Son approche de l’automobile est par conséquent fortement teintée de sa vision des changements récents impulsés par le mobile, le cloud et les grandes plateformes technologiques. Dans un podcast intitulé “quand la voiture entre en collision avec les technologies” (à écouter ici), Benedict développe un article publié précédemment sur son blog : Ways to think about cars (à lire ici). Je vous en résume ici la vision timberland Homme .
Haven't you been following the FOIA emails? They did.
Cherry picked and quote mined parts of vast document dumps are not reliable.
So, someone saying that directly in the context of the email is quote mining and not reliable. Bet you didn't even check the emails in context did you? Nope. I bet you didn't, good on you!
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Again your interpretation is contradicted by the first sentence of your source!
Read that again. Arranged the donation in 2014, this was started in 2013. I know, it's so out there...especially in context. Also re-read the first source, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt where you missed the important part.
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Again your interpretation is contradicted by the first sentence of your source!
Read that again. Arranged the donation in 2014, this was started in 2013. I know, it's so out there...especially in context. Also re-read the first source, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt where you missed the important part.
Her term as Secretary of State ended in 2012.
I stole this Sig
I put very little faith in the FBI nowadays. They have proven themselves to be just a political weapon of whoever is in power. Their shiny reputation is somewhat tarnished. I doubt they'll ever be trusted again to be impartial and nonpartisan.
When did the FBI have a shiny reputation? The "war on drugs" was a conspiracy between J Edgar Hoover and the Nixon administration to harass, disrupt, and punish their political enemies. In its history, the FBI has done things in violation of our Constitution that would impress a Nazi SS officer. You have only to Google the term "Cointelpro" or "Church commission".
You should read the Podesta email dump. They're basically an arm of the DNC right now, coordinating stories with the campaign.
Had she been charged with something?
That's the point.
No, despite Comey essentially listing off all of the reasons why she broke laws and then claiming that he won't prosecute. Which brings us back to the beginning of this thread. "'My politics' are that politicians should be held to a higher standard, not a higher standard for conviction."
The entire point is that she hasn't been charged with something and found not-guilty in court, but that we the people will never get the chance to have our day in court when politicians commit crimes because they almost invariably get let off of the hook without even an investigation.
Would you care to prove that none of Powell's private email was classified? Neither Powell nor Clinton intended to have classified information on their private accounts, and while we know classified material ended up on Clinton's I don't think there's been a similar search of Powell's email.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Clinton was negligent with classified material. That did not result in a criminal prosecution in other cases I know of (one guy agreed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, but didn't have to follow through). Clinton was treated as anyone else would have been.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Would you care to prove that HRC tried to avoid using her private email server for classified communications? Evidence suggests she didn't. Powell had and used an email account on the classified State Department network ("high side"); Clinton did not. The NYTimes reports that a search of Powell's emails was done, and only uncovered two emails, sent to Powell but someone else, that were upgraded to confidential or secret after the fact -- unlike emails that Clinton sent containing information that was classified (and even marked as such) at the time, and emails on her server that included top secret information.
Actually, I tend to get my news from sources outside the US.
I don't even get CNN where I live. (Don't really miss it much, either.)
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
The Mindless One is not a member of any US political party. You should really step out of your bubble more often.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
The number of classified emails that went through Hillary's server are BTW 22. Most of them were not classified at the time, the once that were didn't have the classification in the header, they were only marked in the body.
Really? Really? Whether or not markings were on the communications, THEY WERE STILL CLASSIFIED and THEY STILL WENT THROUGH HER SERVER.
At a minimum, she should be held accountable under the "attractive nuisance" laws. No, I take that back. At a minimum, she should be held accountable for having classified email on an unclassified server. Even if she didn't send a single fucking email and only received them, she knew what she was doing was illegal and wrong.
Go ahead and keep explaining why classified emails are on an unclassified server and that somehow, nobody is fucking responsible for that happening.
Dumbass. Talk about being lead about by the nose. Really? It is okay because the Republicans did it before? How about the Republicans, Democrats, and fools like you all burn in fucking hell for being less than honest with yourselves about reality and what the fuck is actually going on. They are all criminals and useful idiots like you help them. Fuck off.
"Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
If you were to apply that standard across the board to everybody in the federal government, the apparatus would grind to a screeching halt. Clearly, you have no idea how byzantine wide-spread and at times contradictory classifications get applied.
There is a reason prosecutors look for criminal intend. It was careless. Hillary admitted as much. End of story. When has your candidate last admitted a mistake?
Anyhow, it's clear you are deep in the rabbit hole and drank heartily from the conspiracy firehose.
Liar. Laws concerning classified material require nothing like intent. They are strict liability laws. Go suck Hillary's dick.
Too bad that the Republican director of the FBI is so ignorant of the law. If only he would listen to anonymous trolls on the interweb.
Are you calling James Comey a liar?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press...
From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.
The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government e-mail accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond.
This helped us recover work-related e-mails that were not among the 30,000 produced to State. Still others we recovered from the laborious review of the millions of e-mail fragments dumped into the slack space of the server decommissioned in 2013.
With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. There were no additional Top Secret e-mails found. Finally, none of those we found have since been “up-classified.”
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Considering Powell actually turned over his emails as official records as required by law, I think by now we would know if any of them were classified, wouldn't we?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?