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Twitter Plans To Cut About 300 Jobs As Soon As This Week: Bloomberg (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: Twitter Inc. is planning widespread job cuts, to be announced as soon as this week, according to people familiar with the matter. The company may cut about 8 percent of the workforce, or about 300 people, the same percentage it did last year when co-founder Jack Dorsey took over as chief executive officer, the people said. Planning for the cuts is still fluid and the number could change, they added. An announcement about the job reductions may come before Twitter releases third-quarter earnings on Thursday, one of the people said. Twitter, which loses money, is trying to control spending as sales growth slows. The company recently hired bankers to explore a sale, but the companies that had expressed interest in bidding -- Salesforce.com Inc., The Walt Disney Co. and Alphabet Inc. -- later backed out from the process. Twitter's losses and 40 percent fall in its share price the past 12 months have made it more difficult for the company to pay its engineers with stock. That has made it harder for Twitter to compete for talent with giant rivals like Alphabet Inc.'s Google and Facebook Inc. Reducing employee numbers would relieve some of this pressure.

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  1. 8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If 300 people is 8% of the workforce, that means there are something like 3700 people working at Twitter. That seems pretty ridiculous. What in the world do those 3700 people do?

    1. Re:8% by rudy_wayne · · Score: 5, Funny

      What in the world do those 3700 people do?

      Certainly not anything that generates any profit.

    2. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need for 300 people to block tweets that the company ownership and investors deem are related to a certain unsavory presidential candidate.

      I would speculate this is likely due to the fact the national election is the week after next.

      Expect all the other Social Media platforms to follow suite.

    3. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No shit. If I had a goal, "I want to build Twitter, every feature, and I want it in 30 days" I can't conceive of needing more than 50 employees. That isn't just developers and UI people and sysadmins, it includes the janitors, HR people, a few accountants, the marketdroids, and enough suits to manage them all. Double the team to have it running at Twitter scale with an NOC manned 24x7. Double the team again for something I'm overlooking entirely, and then tell me what the heck those other 3,500 bodies are doing in chairs every day at Twitter HQ...

    4. Re:8% by sittingnut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What in the world do those 3700 people do?

      engage is sjw activism under orders?

      problem with twitter is, its leadership does not seem to know what it does.
      if it is a facilitator for expressing and communicating( a micro blogging site, media site, or whatever, it calls itself), it should not be putting any limits on any of that unless specifically asked to do so by courts after due process. instead, irrationally, its leaders seem to think expressing and communicating will be helped by a creating a "safe space" where some people's feelings and sensibilities will be privileged over others.

      depending on 'delicate' people who must be protected from words( who are by definition spongers on more robust people), for profits, inevitably leads to ruin. this was predicted by many and will happen.

    5. Re: 8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Picking through tweets to ban anyone expressing views contrary to the Ministry of Truth.

      That does not, incidentally, include anyone who wants to murder Jews, and only includes those who want to murder gays if they aren't Muslim.

    6. Re:8% by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      They have 2000 engineers. I find it hard to imagine what twitter needs 2000 engineers for.

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    7. Re:8% by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      SOMEONE has to automate the creation of TPS reports...

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    8. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something tells me they have 0 engineers, unless the physical plant at their corporate campus is really demanding.

    9. Re:8% by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 5, Informative
      Empire Building

      A managers salary is based on how many people they have under them, so if they are greedy, they'll hire as many people as they can. It doesn't matter if they do anything or not.

    10. Re:8% by AmazingRuss · · Score: 1

      Because if they have more engineers, they win.

    11. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hire their buddies. Now they get to fire their buddies!

    12. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > where some people's feelings and sensibilities will be privileged over others

      Why do some find the idea that treating everyone with some amount of respect, by minimizing harassment and brigading campaigns from trolls who don't seem to have anything constructive to do, isn't worth doing?

      Obligatory XKCD reference: https://xkcd.com/1357/ .

    13. Re:8% by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

      There's no really need to look beyond, "They're haemorrhaging money," in this case.

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    14. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit. I seriously thought they could get away with 2 engineers...for redundancy.

    15. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Then explain to me please why certain women can cry #killallmen and aren't banned but a scientist making a joke about women and men falling in love at the lab can have his positions terminated? I think you missed the OP's point that SOME people's feelings are protected and others are trampled.

    16. Re:8% by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Informative

      sales people.
      "important bloggers".
      "influential people".

      you have to look at twitters history from inception to today.

      first off it was hacked together on pretty shitty codebase, which made scaling the service EXTREMELY expensive. they've since moved to different codebase that for some reason seems to be just as expensive to run. even back in the day when similar sized irc networks(to what size twitter was back then) were ran for _pennies_ twitters network was 100x more expensive to run. it's kind of amazing how they managed to do that and not have anyone tell them that their ideas were stupid and that they could have saved a lot of money.

      basically, twitter _technical_design_ from day 1 was such that it could not scale to be profitable - which is kind of amazing since there were off the shelf products even back then that would have done it way, wayyy cheaper and with way, way more features.

      actually part of twitters early rise was tied solely to american telcos way of screwing over it's customers. namely that you buy text messages as a package _and_ that incoming messages are part of said package, which let twitter send you info kind of free (for them anyways).

      I think another thing that happened was that they hired 2000 sales people without thinking what they were going to ask those 2000 sales people actually sell (and if they had something to sell why the fuck they would need sales people to sell it anyways).

      another big fuckup from twitter was that they missed their sales window - being unable to scale to profitability would not have been such a problem if they had sold out to ms or someone else 5 years ago, though even then it might have been hard to get a sum out to pay the previous investors - what happened between 5 years and today? well everybody knows already that twitter is just.. twitter. it's not the next facebook - it's the next myspace - and even dimmer buyers know that twitters tech is worth shit ALL NOTHING. for example, if their tech would scale at pennies then all the limits about message lengths and content, client apps and all that would be understandable - but it has all the downsides of a highly optimized system without any cost benefits of such a system.

      and well.. another reason to the high headcounts is simply this: the more people work under you the more money you will get paid (out of the investors money). it was just a way to pump out the cash from the sinking ship. ...or to put more simply: it began as a fucking one liner message wall script for bloggers by bloggers who never bothered to learn anything else because blogs. it was just links to blogs with couple of comment lines. made with _blog_ technology. by people who for some reason ignored _all_ cheap off the shelf scalable methods to achieve the same fucking thing when they made it. and it got popular enough that said bloghipsters could manage to get enough funding to run it for a decade burning money all the way(and pocketing a lot of it in the process).

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    17. Re: 8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people are special. Accept it. Get over it. Above all else, do not ever criticize or call it into discussion. Ever. Your life depends on it.

    18. Re:8% by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's kind of amazing how they managed to do that and not have anyone tell them that their ideas were stupid

      I have no doubt that plenty of people have told them exactly that. It would not surprise me to learn that they fired anyone who did so, though.

      If Twitter were an engineering-driven company, they wouldn't be lousy with SJWs.

      -jcr

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    19. Re:8% by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Obligatory XKCD reference

      Here, let me fix that for you.

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    20. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Takes a lot of people to censor and ban views they don't agree with.

      Like dilbert creator scott adams.

    21. Re: 8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't matter. One useless social media darling down. Now if we can just get the big one (Facebook) the world will be a massively better place.

    22. Re:8% by fche · · Score: 1

      "that treating everyone with some amount of respect"

      motte & bailey, nice try pal

    23. Re:8% by sittingnut · · Score: 1

      that xkcd has very little to do with my point.
      twitter is free to ban people they subjectively deem trolls/racists/whatever, but twitter has to accept the consequences (such as ruin and lay offs) of limiting robust contentious intellectual diversity (which is preferred by anyone who achieves, or try to achieve, anything in real world) to protect sensibilities and privileges of sponging snowflakes offended by politically incorrect speech.

    24. Re:8% by Chas · · Score: 1

      And freaking out because nobody in their right mind would buy them and bail them out financially.

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    25. Re:8% by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      It's weird whenever a company expands, alters its technology, or merges, they have redundant employees, and so eliminate a small chunk of the workforce (I mean, 5,000 at Dell where they have 100,000 employees is only 5%), and Slashdot loses its shit and goes on about how we should all pay higher prices to keep these people in useless jobs instead of moving that money to buy other products supporting other jobs.

      Twitter cuts 300 jobs in a desperate attempt to save money, with a statement of "We can't pay for this anymore" instead of "we don't need these people," and Slashdot is jumping up and down demanding to know why Twitter even has all these jobs in the first place.

      What?

    26. Re:8% by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Interesting

      That comic deliberately mis-interprets and contradicts itself to make a point.

      For example, it quotes Mill's comments on the necessity of protection against the "tyranny of prevailing opinion." However, that doesn't mean freedom from consequences, it means that anonymous speech must be possible and protected.

      It mentions "liberty of circulation" and "access to infrastructure" for minority opinions. That doesn't mean that Twitter has to host your bullshit, it means that the government shouldn't ban you from using public roads to deliver your controversial newsletter. If Twitter were part of the government you might have a point, but it isn't. At most, you could argue for net neutrality giving everyone equal access to the network in order to host their own material.

      You can also argue that public infrastructure should not be privately owned (WARNING: socialism!) because private companies are not the government. So it sounds like the comic is arguing that Twitter should be nationalised and run as a government service.

      The last two panels argue that minority opinions should be considered. I agree, as does Mill. However, that doesn't extend to being require to give them a platform. The "responsibility" to extend free speech rights to others only goes as far as not not silencing them through the government (e.g. with laws), it doesn't mean you have erect a platform for them to speak from in your garden.

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    27. Re:8% by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      That comic deliberately mis-interprets and contradicts itself to make a point.

      This coming from the person who deliberately misinterprets and contradicts their own points and the points of others to try and make themselves seem morally superior? Right. Let me know when you figure out the whole "yes people should be treated equally, and not attacked for having a differing opinion" that you're so up in arms against. After all, you're quite happy to see people attacked for "freedom of consequences" as long as they're on the opposite side of the ideological isle. While I'm quite happy to see nobody attacked for such. You however, believe my view to be fascism.

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    28. Re:8% by dasgoober · · Score: 1

      You need only team players for a pump n dump scheme

    29. Re:8% by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Just det!

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    30. Re:8% by sootman · · Score: 1

      What in the world do those 3700 people do?

      Certainly not anything that generates any profit.

      Citation needed.

      Oh wait, here it is:
      https://twitter.com/dcurtis/st...

      Profit per employee, 2015:
      Apple: $464k
      Facebook: $290k
      Google: $250k
      Microsoft: $102k
      Yahoo: $54k
      Twitter: -$129k

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    31. Re:8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Twitter cuts 300 jobs in a desperate attempt to save money, with a statement of "We can't pay for this anymore" instead of "we don't need these people," and Slashdot is jumping up and down demanding to know why Twitter even has all these jobs in the first place.

      What?

      Twitter should not have had those jobs in the first place unless there was work to be done that would bring in enough money to pay their salaries. Twitter is a trivial service to implement. Having more that 50 engineers is clearly a silly thing to do. If you disagree, please explain why the layoff is necessary.

  2. ok and you need to go one the H1B black list by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    ok and you need to go one the H1B black list

  3. Companies that never made money and never will by HBI · · Score: 1

    should be firing all their employees and going bankrupt.

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    1. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Companies that never made money and never will

      I'm old enough to remember when people said that about Google.

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    2. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      I'm old enough to remember when people said that about Google.

      I remember when Google came out with text ads, and people laughed at the very idea of an ad that didn't blink garishly, have eye-gouging animation, or invite you to punch a purple monkey. After they made 73 kabillion dollars off of those ads, people stopped laughing.

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    3. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by Xenographic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's because idiots thought Google gave away free search and didn't know it was raking in money with AdWords because they never looked at any financial statements.

      Twitter is a pure money sink that is trading on their fame. I'm not even sure how they would monetize it and I don't think they know either.

    4. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Twitter is a pure money sink that is trading on their fame. I'm not even sure how they would monetize it and I don't think they know either.

      I'm old enough to remember when people said that about Facebook.

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    5. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by nine-times · · Score: 1

      I'm not even sure how they would monetize it and I don't think they know either.

      If the rest of the web is any indication, it'll be by shoving advertising down our throats.

    6. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because idiots thought Google gave away free search and didn't know it was raking in money with AdWords because they never looked at any financial statements.

      To be fair, Google was a private company with no financial statements to look at, until the government essentially forced them to IPO in 2004.

    7. Re: Companies that never made money and never will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoa! You haven't killed yourself yet?

      Cut out your eyes, castrate yourself, and hang from the ceiling fan.

    8. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by Xenographic · · Score: 0

      > I'm old enough to remember when people said that about Facebook.

      Well, Facebook was founded on February 4, 2004, so welcome to the over 12 crowd, I guess? :) That'd also imply that you got that username at age one, though.

      Anyhow, Facebook has a lot more user data to sell to advertisers, but most people tell me the ads convert like crap. Marketers love just how fine you can tune your targeting, though.

      Don't get me wrong, Twitter does monetize its users to people who datamine the stuff and such, but they haven't been making enough money off it.

      Right now, they're just cutting costs so their financials don't look so bad, they can probably stay afloat for quite a while just by being so big. I mean, Yahoo has a NEGATIVE value if you take out their stake in Alibaba and they haven't imploded.... yet.

      Don't be too surprised if they get sold at fire sale prices if the economy goes south, though.

    9. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Youtube was 'breaking even' up through a year ago: http://www.wsj.com/articles/vi...

      After paying for content, and the equipment to deliver speedy videos, YouTube’s bottom line is “roughly break-even,” according to a person with knowledge of the figure.

    10. Re: Companies that never made money and never will by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Whoa! You haven't killed yourself yet?

      Cut out your eyes, castrate yourself, and hang from the ceiling fan.

      You would miss me. Admit it.

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    11. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      That'd also imply that you got that username at age one

      My Slashdot profile bio explains the nickname in great detail and it preceded the Nazi pontiff by many decades.

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    12. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by Cramer · · Score: 1

      I very highly doubt that. How many "youtube millionaires" are there? If youtube ads are generating that kind of cash for uploaders, it's making A LOT more for youtube. The only way they can be "breaking even" is by accounting tricks to hide money. (i.e. "buying" services from other parts of the company.)

    13. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like payroll services? Bandwidth?

    14. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by Cramer · · Score: 1

      *cough*Google Datacenters*cough*

    15. Re:Companies that never made money and never will by Raenex · · Score: 1

      Twitter is a pure money sink that is trading on their fame. I'm not even sure how they would monetize it and I don't think they know either.

      They reportedly get somewhere between $2 to $3 billion per year in advertising revenue. They are probably an extremely bloated company geared for growth. It looks like they are starting to trim the fat. Just how much money would it take to run Twitter on a budget? My guess is not much.

  4. Further Evidence by bengoerz · · Score: 1

    that Facebook's greatest achievement wasn't how it many users it gained, but how it turned them into profit.

  5. All Hyped Up and No Where To Go by muphin · · Score: 2

    I never really understood twitter, how can you make money off a 160 character message? there are billions of tweets, people arent glued to each tweet and miss a lot thats out there and usually just focus on the big trends .. unless they link products from tweets and get comissions on sales ... people arent really going to advertise.
    again .. nice idea .. but where to go from here?

    Facebook i understand, it allows people to share in your life, Instagram makes people jeleous of your life, or you want to share part of someones experience .. but twitter is just more like an announcement.... move on.

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    1. Re:All Hyped Up and No Where To Go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      140 characters. 20 characters of the SMS are for "commands."

      But anyway, some more simple math: if 300 employees is 8% of the workforce, that means Twitter has 300*0.08=3750 employees.

      What the FUCK are they doing with 3,750 employees?!

      I've heard that apparently Twitter makes quite a bit of money from ads, it's just that they have so many expenses. Such as having 3,750 employees to provide a service for posting 140 character messages. Somehow.

    2. Re:All Hyped Up and No Where To Go by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps they haven't discovered strlen() and they have to manually check that they don't go over the limit?

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  6. Really? by HBI · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's idiotic. Google made money early and often. 5 years in, it was profitable.

    Twitter has lost money every quarter of the 10 years it has existed and has no hope of ever reaching even break even status. Literally no revenue.

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    1. Re: Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They had $2.21 billion revenue last year. They still somehow managed to burn through all of that and lose money.

    2. Re:Really? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They had a great pitch - broadcast text messaging, set to become the big new communication platform. Easy for investors to understand, millions and millions of users... Throw in some ads and rake in the cash.

      Problem is ads don't pay much and people hate them. Problem is that they couldn't deal with the trolling, and their initial claim to be a more or less unlimited free speech platform was naive at best. Some of their ideas were clearly half-baked too, like becoming a platform for companies to reach their customers and provide support. Users are very sensitive to insincere marketing and will mock it mercilessly, and who wants to handle their support issues in public? Hashtags seemed like a great idea but quickly devolved into spam and trolling.

      They actually have a good platform underneath it all. The current US presidential election benefited immensely from the candidates being able to tweet and reveal their true nature, rather than just carefully scripted talking points on TV. There is just no way to make huge amounts of money from it, and they have not been able to diversify.

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    3. Re:Really? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Twitter also has a habit of changing how it works every couple of years to try and make it easier on new users instead of keeping the system the same and making better tutorials. Every time they change the system behaviour the core base that has kept Twitter around gets further alienated and part of them leaves. They created the community and were the reason Twitter was successful in the first place.

      Every change makes it seem like Twitter wants to become more like Facebook. For example, they changed the stars to hearts. People, at least that core, are on Twitter because it wasn't Facebook.

      Twitter needs it's own identity again, different from other companies. They need to make a roadmap on how they are going to get there and make it public. Finally it needs to spell out what's acceptable use and apply it equally.

  7. They might try getting rid of the censors by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    Nahh that's probably the big perk at Twitter these days. You get to censor people you don't like.

  8. The cupboard of history by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Twitter used to be free speech, but now it seems to be banning people right and left with the excuse "hate speech". In many cases the speech contains no insults whatsoever, and in many cases the speech is using clear terms in a non-insulting way to put forth a political view.

    Google has several clear examples. For example, Scott Adams was banned from twitter for no apparent reason, and apparently gets banned from periscope [streaming app owned by twitter] whenever he starts talking about Trump.

    Twitter is trying to engineer a "safe place" where no one can be insulted, and only approved speech is allowed.

    It's bad enough that wikileaks threatened to start its own Twitter in response to the ban of Milo Yiannopoulos.

    I think people are starting to realize that twitter's war on free speech makes it less interesting. When a celebrity with 9 million followers gets banned, that's 9 million customers who get put off and go somewhere else.

    And I think that wikileaks will eventually be the answer. There's been no public announcement, but it's entirely possible that wikileaks *is* working on a twitter replacement, and of course it would be completely free speech.

    By catering to the censors and thought police, twitter is digging its own grave and will get replaced by someone who's not afraid to stand up for free speech.

    In a year or two, twitter will be on the cupboard of history, alongside companies (such as Google+) that restricted and pissed off its customers.

    1. Re: The cupboard of history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn. Real story: Nobody gives a fuck about any of that. Twitter reached its operational life span and even bribing a presidential candidate to run his campaign of abominations from the platform could not save it from being thrown into the ashcan of history.

    2. Re: The cupboard of history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And Milo actually supported rump! We need a word for his kind. Gays that go against who they are needs a term like Uncle Tom.

    3. Re: The cupboard of history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More proof the first amendment needs to be repealed and replaced.

    4. Re:The cupboard of history by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 2

      "For example, Scott Adams was banned from twitter"

      --"I would regard it as treason"

      lol no. He knows about as much about the Constitution as his favored candidate knows. Treason is a capital offense from the constitution, one of few, and this is not that. It's doesn't even violate the First Amendment, although it might be censorship.

      I don't know anything either way about the trueness of his claims of being shadowbanned by Twitter, but it's not treason, and it's not a First Amendment issue, and it's not even remotely illegal. If you don't like their platform, don't use it.

      It'd be pretty funny if Scott was able to prevent the sale of Twitter, though.

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    5. Re: The cupboard of history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because a guy likes to pound another guy's ass doesn't mean he has to follow everything else his group of degenerates do.

      Drop the herd mentality, and realize your sexuality does not have to define your politics.

    6. Re: The cupboard of history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Scott Adams was literally not banned, though, he just went on a paranoid rant because someone told him (on twitter) that he was (double-secret) banned (but only some of the time, so he wouldn't realise).

      He's a fucking idiot, but not one who got banned from twitter.

    7. Re: The cupboard of history by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      [a] Trump is not nor has ever been "anti-gay."

      [b] Hillary, like Obama, was anti-gay and gay marriage for decades before it became politically expedient to be "pro-gay." And her foundation routinely accepts donations not only from governments with capital punishment for homosexuality, but from some of the actual guys who have thrown the stones.

    8. Re: The cupboard of history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shadowbanning is a thing you dummy. Reddit does it. Any forum that lets posters have ignore lists does it piecemeal too.

    9. Re: The cupboard of history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your gay!

  9. Beginning of the end by fropenn · · Score: 1

    for Twitter. You can't fire your way to profitability.

    1. Re: Beginning of the end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if I run a crematorium?

    2. Re: Beginning of the end by bigfinger76 · · Score: 1

      Then you'd have to run the furnaces yourself because you fired all your employees.
      Your pedantry is poorly planned and executed.

    3. Re:Beginning of the end by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      But the monarchies, theocracies and bureaucracies like their safe product that reports and removes users.
      Cant cults, kingdoms and big gov help grow the safe brand?

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    4. Re:Beginning of the end by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You can't fire your way to profitability.

      Josiah Wedgwood did.

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    5. Re: Beginning of the end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wooooooshhhhh

  10. hashtag by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    #youregone

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  11. 3.7k Employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If 300 people is about 8% of the work force, that means that Twitter employs about 3,750 people.

    3,750 people for a 140-character-at-a-time posting system.

    What the heck do all of those people actually DO all day? Support? Moderation? Legal and Regulatory compliance?

    1. Re: 3.7k Employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's 26.79 employees per character in a tweet. Each one of those handles one letter of the alphabet. They'll start by laying off Q and Z first.

    2. Re:3.7k Employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those cat pictures don't just post themselves you know.

  12. we need more programmers! by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a programmer shortage! We need more women programmers! We can't figure out why women don't go into these careers! It's all the fault of programmers assigned the male gender at birth! FEEL GUILTY!!!!eleven!1!

    It couldn't possibly have anything to do with gaslighting asshole managers.

    1. Re:we need more programmers! by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

      ...gaslighting asshole managers.

      Had to look that one up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      "...a form of psychological abuse in which a victim is manipulated into doubting their own memory, perception, and sanity..."

  13. Twitter is dead anyway. by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 1

    It's being replaced by Gab

    1. Re:Twitter is dead anyway. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      It's being replaced by Gab

      And Gab is being replaced by Plurk.

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    2. Re:Twitter is dead anyway. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Splorf

    3. Re:Twitter is dead anyway. by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Hey man, are you on wuwu?

  14. Trust & Safety/Abuse needs to go. by sethstorm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How many from Trust & Safety/Abuse? Their Abuse/Trust & Safety department has helped cause Twitter's losses through arbitrary enforcement (or even defense of harassers such as Leslie Jones).

    Cut those departments, remove the blocking tools, and make Twitter a better company.

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  15. diversity? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    I do wonder if the people being let go are going to all be "non-diversity" individuals, meaning all white guys. If not at the time of hiring, they certainly have a case for discrimination when being fired.

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    1. Re: diversity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are white guys left working at Twitter?

  16. Time for the NY Times to buy Twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then they can extend their paywall across it and we won't have to see so many links.

    After all, they were silly enough to by Wirecutter.

  17. Its unlikely they are a sinking ship. by tlambert · · Score: 1

    Its unlikely they are a sinking ship.

    They have 258 positions currently open in sales, concurrent with laying off 300 people.

    Intuitively, that means that the people being ejected are mostly underperforming sales account managers.

    Other jobs are in machine learning, data analytics, and data scientists, which likely means that they are also having content control problems with troll and sock-puppet accounts, and they have little understanding of network effects, despite being a "social network".

    Or... it means they have a tender offer, and want to reduce the PPE numbers to inflate (temporarily) the asking price for the company, in the same way that Word Perfect laid off all their people working on future product releases, prior to selling themselves to Novell.

  18. 8%? Damn, not enough by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1

    I was hoping it would be 100%.
    Since Twitter has become the mindless echo chamber of the regressive left it has no place in modern society and is in fact doing considerable damage. It needs to die as soon as possible.

  19. They won't take our money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In my business, a small media in Brussels with around 100k monthly uniques, we allocated a 2017 budget for advertising and outreach; it's not a lot (1FTE and €50k), but it's by attracting many businesses like us that a tech company can be profitable. We've pretty much ruled out "traditional" web advertising because the returns are pretty small and our FTE has been experimenting with cross-posting our content on the social media platforms and paying small amounts for premium exposure.

    With 30€, we find that we can increase our reach on Facebook by about 10x (from a baseline of 1000 followers), which increases visitors to our website by about 2k. LinkedIn is a close second. With twitter, we found that the same 30€ increases reach by 3x and brings in around 400 visitors.

    We thought the discrepancy was so huge that we must be doing something wrong. Our social media guy tried to contact their local sales team in Brussels to get advice. They never answered. He called, they told him that they weren't going to talk to him unless he spent at least 5.000€.

    By contrast, Facebook and Google have both sent representatives to give us classes on using their media tools... before we even hinted that we were thinking of spending money with them. We're going to allocate tens of thousands of Euros to each of them. It's not a lot, but it certainly was worth their time. And that's why their profitable and Twitter isn't.

    So yeah, this doesn't surprise me one bit.

  20. I'll pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm in a business that needs to have analytics on my social media users. We'll pay for these analytics. In fact, we do pay FaceBook and Google Analytics for intelligence.

    Twitter won't take our money because we're too small.

  21. And nothing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...of value was lost.

  22. What do they do? by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Retweet stuff to bring more people to twitter?

  23. Sell Twitter to Trump by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Twitter should have been sold to Trump, Inc. The man has made Twitter pretty hot - every MSM channel checks it out for his tweets, more than anyone elses. So they should just sell it to him, and let one of his family members manage it. Or make Corey Lewandowski or Steve Bannon the CEO of the operation.

  24. Trump & gays by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Since when has Trump been anti-gay that Milo owes it to anyone to oppose him? I could understand if you said that about Cruz or Huckabee, but it was never true about him even when he was a Dem (he praised Michael Huffington for leaving Arianna for a man), and it hasn't been true about him as a Republican. Trump has been attacked - sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly - for being racist or misogynist, but one thing one can't say about him - that he's homophobic. If anything, it's he who has transformed the GOP from what was perceived as a homophobic party to a party that now opens its doors to the LGBT community.

  25. layoff notices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are the notices going to be 140 characters?

  26. Twitter is Propped up by TV by mcolgin · · Score: 1

    IMHO, twitter has been propped up by the dying industry of live tv. Broadcasting companies took to Twitter as a way to engage with their audience, in realtime, as shows are aired. This helped to keep their dying business model a float with advertisers, as they could now show specific user counts (based on engagement). As a programmer, we've gotten a lot of goodies published which help to answer "twitter scale" issues. But honestly, I'll be glad when it's gone. While "web scale" is certainly a thing, there's been several years of praying towards Twitter without regard to the fact it hasn't made a profit in 10 years.

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  27. I don't trust anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *nm*

  28. Time for a classic /. style business plan! by Phil+Urich · · Score: 1
    1. 1. Restrict API usage to dissuade third-party clients from innovating and creating new features and functionality
    2. 2. Fire your own developers too
    3. 3. ???
    4. 4. Profit!
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  29. hahahaahahahaaaaaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    die fast twitter

  30. Twitter and profit... by bayankaran · · Score: 1

    Its difficult to make a profit from Twitter which will keep bean counters contend.

    Twitter should have positioned themselves as Craigslist. Then they would have been a valuable service and might have lasted. For that to happen the people behind Twitter should be less greedy.

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