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Comcast Sues Nashville To Halt Rules That Give Google Fiber Faster Access To Utility Poles (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Comcast yesterday sued the Nashville metro government and mayor to stop a new ordinance designed to give Google Fiber faster access to utility poles. Comcast's complaint in U.S. District Court in Nashville (full text) is similar to one already filed by AT&T last month. Both ISPs are trying to invalidate a One Touch Make Ready ordinance that lets new ISPs make all of the necessary wire adjustments on utility poles themselves instead of having to wait for incumbent providers like AT&T and Comcast to send work crews to move their own wires. The ordinance was passed largely to benefit Google Fiber, which is offering service in Nashville but says that it hasn't been able to deploy faster because it is waiting to get access to thousands of poles. Nearly all the Nashville utility poles are owned either by the municipal Nashville Electric Service or AT&T. Because Comcast has wires on many of the poles, it has some control over how quickly Google Fiber can expand its network. When Google Fiber wants to attach wires to a new pole, it needs to wait for ISPs like Comcast to move their wires to make room for Google Fiber's. The Nashville One Touch Make Ready ordinance "permits third parties to move, alter, or rearrange components of Comcast's communications network attached to utility poles without Comcast's consent, authorization, or oversight, and with far less notice than is required by federal law and by an existing Comcast contract with Metro Nashville," Comcast's complaint said. Comcast asked the court to declare the ordinance invalid and permanently enjoin Nashville from enforcing it. The pre-existing Make Ready process "seek[s] to ensure that all providers can share available pole space cooperatively and safely, without interfering with or damaging any provider's equipment or services," Comcast said. The new procedures mandated by Nashville "are so intrusive that, tellingly, Metro Nashville has wholly exempted its own utility pole attachments from the Ordinance's coverage." Even though Google Fiber announced yesterday that it will pause operations and cut 9% of its staff, the ISP said it would continue operations in Nashville.
The world would be such a better place if Comcast wasn't an ISP.
This is the second time today I've ask "If not even Google can compete w/ Comcast what chance to mere mortals have?"
Nashville Electric Service is a fascinating entity. It is technically owned by the Metro Nashville, which is the merger of old Nashville city proper and Davidson County, yet it serves areas outside Nashville. For example, I was on NES despite living in an adjacent county when I lived in the area. I did not know at the time it was owned by the city, with a board appointed by the mayor and confirmed by the metro board (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville_Electric_Service). That makes a lot of sense in this context, since the city then technically "owns" all the NES poles in the city as well. The status of AT&T (previously BellSouth, previously AT&T) poles would be debatable, since utility poles are somewhat...odd...assets. They can be owned by the locality outright, owned by the utility outright, owned by the locality but leased by the utility, etc... I'm curious to see how this plays out for the legal aspects, far more than because it involves Google Fiber.
Nashville could Use It to take over the poles
- the last time somebody tried taking over the poles like that the entire world went to war for 5 years or so, not the greatest idea...
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It's not nice to mess with another utility's stuff.
"permits third parties to move, alter, or rearrange components of Comcast's communications network attached to utility poles without Comcast's consent, authorization, or oversight, and with far less notice than is required by federal law and by an existing Comcast contract with Metro Nashville,"
That's just not done in the utility business. You simply don't "move, alter, or rearrange" another utility's lines. If you cut a line of any kind or interrupt service without calling first, you pay. Google needs to learn how to get along with everybody else. They have to play by the rules, too.
You didn't address the question of what happens when you have a utility not acting properly, which is the reality here.
Funny, Comcast never seemed to be particularly concerned about their service being interrupted before Google Fiber arrived in Nashville.
A year ago, my Comcast service would often drop out dozens of times a day (confirmed by my modem logs). Calls to Comcast service got me nowhere. You know what finally fixed my Comcast service? When Comcast ran brand-new cable throughout my neighborhood while in mortal fear of Google Fiber.
Comcast doesn't care if their service works or not. They certainly never seemed to care in the past 10 years, at least until Google Fiber came to Nashville. I never got a dime of reimbursement for all the times my Internet or cable TV quit working. And now they moan and groan about possible interruptions due to Google Fiber installing their own equipment? Laughable.
But here's the most important point: Nashville residents simply DO NOT CARE about the lawsuits. They expected legal action, and they still overwhelmingly told the Metro Council that they wanted Google Fiber. The Metro Council has gotten the message loud and clear, and the city is not going to back down.
All you have to do is let the incumbent monopoly move their wires themselves, for the competition, before the independent contractor is scheduled to do it. But, oddly enough, they've been dragging their feet, almost as if they want to hurt their competition. So let them have to do it quickly if they want to do it themselves.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
Damage to Comcast's lines is already covered by applicable law. This is not made explicit in this new ordinance, but because the ordinance requires the attacher to both post a bond, and to indemnify (protect from legal repercussions for damages) the pole owner, it's clearly something obvious to the lawyers who wrote it.
This law also requires notification be sent to anyone whose lines are moved, and places liability for certain costs on the one doing the moving - cost for the existing user to perform inspections, and cover the costs for any mistakes made that bring it out of spec with the pole owner. And the pole owners may require approval of the contractors who actually perform the work.
Also, the law does require that the new line owner gets permission from the pole owner, and that any work that could reasonably cause a service outage must notify the existing line owners, and must coordinate with them if they choose to do so (within a certain timeframe - if Comcast sits around for a month after being told of outage-causing work, the work may proceed without them).
> They have enough money,
No, they don't.
Today it would cost trillions in construction, labor, parts, assessments, lobbyists, bribes, etc. to build a new network of utility poles/pipes/conduit/etc. rivaling what the entrenched telecoms have near-exclusive access to.
AT&T and Comcast have both had 20 years, *two* decades, an *entire generation* to roll out their own fiber, but they didn't, because they're a monopoly and fark you, you miserable customer. And during that 20 years, the only thing they had to worry about was making sure our state lawmakers were given enough bribes, whiskey, hookers, and blow to tow the company line.
Then Google Fiber comes to town, and now that they're doing AT&T/Comcast's job better than AT&T/Comcast ever did, suddenly it's DerpCon 1. They know that as a natural monopoly, there is only going to be *one* broadband utility when the dust settles. And they're doing everything in their power (short of actually getting off their ass and running their own fiber) to stop Google.
If you look in the dictionary under "regulatory capture", it has a photograph of Tennessee's legislature. Our elected fuckwits used their usual Underpants Gnomes logic:
1) Block cities/co-ops from competing with AT&T/Comcast
2) ???
3) Vigorous competition and fiber everywhere!
By a complete coincidence, campaign contributions from ISP's increased by a factor of 100x (not 100%, 100 *TIMES*) that year.
If any of the crew from /r/nashville is here, please share our warm feelings about Comcast and Marsha Blackburn...
More accurately, a truck with a crew of four, hiding around the corner, travels half an hour, sets up for 20 minutes, works for 5 minutes and then charges for an hour and promptly drives off, to hide around the corner again. How many thousands of dollars do you think it cost and how many thousands of dollars do you thing they will charge and never forget it's you that pays for that bullshit.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
You forgot to mention that while you're suing and lobbying to even string up your first wire they are spending months lobbying on their own and improving their own network so you aren't as competitive and otherwise undercutting you at ever turn.
It's exactly how cable ISP's fight municipal broadband. Sue and cry that it's unfair competition and while it's all rolling through the courts they're busy stringing wire and servicing customers long before the municipal can, undercutting their position.
This is one of those situations where we need a strong government to seize the utility poles and mandate fair and equal access for all.
that's exactly what the ordinance prescribes - http://www.nashville.gov/mc/ordinances/term_2015_2019/bl2016_343.htm
1. The Attacher will not perform Complex Make Ready without first providing thirty (30) days’ prior written notice, which includes electronic communication, to the applicable Pre-Existing Third Party User;