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People Who Use Facebook Live Longer, Study Finds (www.cbc.ca)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CBC.ca: Study after study has demonstrated a link between strong social connections and reduced mortality risk. But does that hold true as our social interactions increasingly take place in online spheres? A new study out of Yale and the University of California suggests that it does. The study, published today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that people who use Facebook live longer than those who do not, and that certain types of Facebook activities -- like posting pictures and accepting friend requests -- are associated with a lower risk of mortality. "There's a big debate about online social media. There are people that worry that worry it substitutes for healthy social interaction," co-author James Fowler, a social scientist from University of California, San Diego, told CBC News. The researchers started with 12 million Facebook profiles, then narrowed it down to four million people whose identities could be verified through California's voter registration list. Then they used data from the California Department of Public Health to compare those people to voters who don't use the social networking platform. They found the risk of dying in a given year was 12 per cent lower for Facebook users than non-Facebook users. That doesn't mean Facebook is necessarily good for you, Fowler cautions. Correlation does not prove causation, so it's impossible to say whether being on Facebook makes you healthier, or whether healthy people are more likely to be on Facebook. Still, Fowler said the study does help debunk some of the negative associations people have with social media. "The fact that we found such a strong positive relationship between health and social networks speaks against the hypothesis that they're making us unhealthy in some way," he said.

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  1. Yeah, they are 12 year olds. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I imagine they would live a fairly long time.

    1. Re:Yeah, they are 12 year olds. by MobSwatter · · Score: 1

      Unless of course the NSA finds your dick picks offensive.

    2. Re:Yeah, they are 12 year olds. by no1nose · · Score: 1

      Plus 650k emails between your soon-to-be-ex wife and Hillary.

    3. Re:Yeah, they are 12 year olds. by ET3D · · Score: 1

      I didn't know 12 year olds were on California's voter registration list.

  2. No by twistedcubic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Facebook is too young to do such a study reliably, unless, of course, by "people" you mean mice. A properly done study would take a group and randomly assign members to a control group (no social media) and an experimental group (mandatory social media), and then wait for people to start dying.

    1. Re:No by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      People are just too willing to swallow this one.

      This is like a study that purports fat steaks and good whiskey are the new secrets of longevity.

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    2. Re:No by uncqual · · Score: 2

      The summary makes it clear that it only determined a correlation between Facebook usage and longer life, not a causal relationship. One doesn't need a control group to reach that conclusion reliably. For example, I can reach a reliable conclusion that Male humans are, on the average, taller than Female humans just by looking at a representative population.

      (Of course, the reason may be that people who are unhealthy just don't have the energy to use Facebook or are spending their time on medical sites instead of engaging on Facebook).

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    3. Re:No by magarity · · Score: 2

      Facebook is too young to do such a study reliably.

      Yep; that's why I exclusively haunt this site instead of that newfangled thing. Someone should do an identical study with users here.

    4. Re:No by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 1

      It also doesn't take into account that some people, like myself, are introverts. We tend to want small groups of good friends over dozens or hundreds of people we 'know' as 'friends' like facebook deals in. Much like a lot of medical and diet research this assumes everyone is perfectly identical and there are no differences.

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    5. Re:No by mukinrestak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Those may not be key to a long life, but they're key to a good one.

    6. Re:No by doom · · Score: 1

      Studies show a positive correlation between studies of social media and junk science--

    7. Re:No by rickyslashdot · · Score: 1

      Actually, the results of my RickySlash survey DO have an indication of this nature - - - but it's ONLY because they SEEM to live longer, because of all the time spent / wasted / invested in keeping up their Facebook pages, comments, links, etc.

      Remember the story about the old codger that quit smoking, drinking, and running around?
      He didn't actually live longer, it just SEEMED like a MUCH longer time -lol-

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    8. Re:No by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Don't forget.... You can only count the deaths if they are the result of NATURAL CAUSES. Just because your test subject dies because he was hit by a bus doesn't mean that facebook is responsible for the living....

    9. Re:No by rmdingler · · Score: 2
      In the same vein: With virtually all the catalogued knowledge of mankind at your fingertips, how can people still debate arguments from a belief set that exists in contrast to the evidence?

      Turns out, it is easier than ever to scroll down until you find an opinion that reinforces what you already suspect.

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    10. Re:No by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Just because your test subject dies because he was hit by a bus doesn't mean that facebook is responsible for the living....

      Making unwarranted assumptions. One could easily make a case that walking while distracted by social media make you more likely to be hit by a bus, thus such deaths should be counted in determining the effects of it.

    11. Re:No by Horus1664 · · Score: 1

      Absolutely true. Utter b*llocks.

  3. Stupid, stupid, stupid pseudo-science? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, intentionally dishonest advertisement?

  4. Strong social connections? Sure. by sinij · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Strong social connections are real-life meaningful relationships of people who are willing to help you in time of need. This is not the same thing as Facebook "friends".

    1. Re:Strong social connections? Sure. by houghi · · Score: 1

      They looked at the people in the poorest parts of the world who did not have FB and they die earlier. Clearly having FB is important. In the middle ages, people died younger and what did they not have? FB!

      Oh, the reason my great aunt died at the age of 115 as the oldest person in the world was not cancer, it was the lack of FB.

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  5. it just seems longer by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    look up and watch the world

  6. Dafuq? by Notabadguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What kind of shitty article is this?

    Facebook hasn't been around long enough to do mortality studies on those who used it and those who didn't use it throughout their life.

    1. Re:Dafuq? by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but they somehow pulled this conclusion out of nowhere:

      Still, Fowler said the study does help debunk some of the negative associations people have with social media. "The fact that we found such a strong positive relationship between health and social networks speaks against the hypothesis that they're making us unhealthy in some way," he said.

      Even if there were found some correlation between Facebook usage and life expectancy, it doesn't in any way follow that using social media is healthy. First, yes, there's the whole "correlation does not equal causation" trope and the fact that we can imagine many factors that would result in a correlation. Maybe people who use Facebook are more likely to be affluent. After all, you need money to buy electronic gadgets to take pictures and make lots of posts. You also need a certain amount of leisure time-- granted, it doesn't take long to post, but taking the time to compose your thoughts, craft an online persona and post frequently assumes some free time and emotional/intellectual energy and freedom. Or maybe there are other factors entirely. Maybe people who post frequently on Facebook are risk-averse, and putting more energy into their social media than to their real lives, but risk aversion could correlate to longer life expectancy.

      But all of that argumentation is accepting this study on its face and assuming that there is some correlation. There's a larger conceptual problem here in that, when we talk about health concerns with social media, we're almost never talking about physical health. The concerns are for mental health. It makes no sense to say, "We should drop any concern that behavior could result in mental health problems, since that behavior might correlate to longer life expectancy!" Never mind that it's one study, and a highly questionable one at that. Even if it were completely correct in its results, it couldn't possibly provide evidence for that conclusion.

    2. Re:Dafuq? by dissy · · Score: 1

      My guess is Facebook invited their subjects out for a headquarters tour, and then cut the break lines on the bus holding the control group.

      That's about the only way to get mortality results so quickly and with such a drastic difference :P

    3. Re:Dafuq? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      What kind of shitty article is this?

      Facebook hasn't been around long enough to do mortality studies on those who used it and those who didn't use it throughout their life.

      Let's zoom the lens out a bit and look at the larger problem.

      Correlation does not prove causation.

      This lone simple fact should make about 80% of statistical studies illegal because they are almost always abused to create controlling policy or manipulate government based on bullshit held together with silly string.

      They way statistics are abused today, I would rather get my advice from a self-proclaimed professional astrologist.

    4. Re:Dafuq? by Guybrush_T · · Score: 1

      While I totally agree that this article is jumping from a not-surprising correlation to a totally dubious causation, your proposition to ban such studies is I think a bad idea.

      In France, statistics based on ethnicity are banned. The reason is : we don't want statistics to say that e.g. "the majority of men in prisons are of a certain ethnicity", because some idiots may think "Then all people of this ethnicity are robbers/rapers/murderers/...".

      The issue with that approach is that you're basically making it illegal to state facts (that happen to be true). So, someone who would do a study to show such facts, and likely conclude that it is hard for immigrants (even from the 60's) to climb the social ladder and have access to good education, ... could be fined for "ethnics statistics".

      What's even worse is that everyone knows this fact, yet, no politician will ever state it, except the extreme right ... and those will be the one jumping to the conclusion that we should kick all the immigrants out. The extreme right supporters will feel that the government is trying to censor/oppress them, making them even more convinced that they are (extremely) right.

    5. Re:Dafuq? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Facebook hasn't been around long enough to do mortality studies on those who used it and those who didn't use it throughout their life.

      Not only that, such a study will never be possible, as Facebook will not be online for the entire life of any users to measure its effect.

  7. Swings and roundabouts by namgge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But is the extra time they live sufficient to compensate for the time they've wasted on Facebook?

    1. Re:Swings and roundabouts by chrism238 · · Score: 2

      Agreed; perhaps those stuck inside with their faux friends on Facebook had a far lower chance of being killed while outside enjoying themselves?

    2. Re:Swings and roundabouts by arth1 · · Score: 1

      More likely, the correlation (if it even exists) has an external cause. Like, for instance, those being wealthy enough after retirement to have decent healthcare are also those wealthy enough to have broadband.

  8. missed the actual connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    well, they missed the most simple connection, it's not that they use Facebook that it makes them live longer, it's that they are typically from richer countries, so more medical aid, etc, so lower mortality rates

  9. Bullshit by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    Facebook hasn't been around long enough for any conclusive study.

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  10. No data on people who left due to depression.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Part of the reason I left facebook wasn't so much the drunken comments I may or may not regret, it was feeling so shitty seeing all the one up family photos and "my adorable kids" pics....

    If hell has a physical embodiment on the earth it would be facebook for a single/forever alone person....

  11. Longer life... by beheaderaswp · · Score: 1

    Gosh... I'm trying to disentangle myself from Facebook... ... in a sense I'm actually dying to leave....

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    1. Re:Longer life... by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      In other news, Yahoo users are jumping out of windows....

  12. Facebook required to live longer, hmmmm? by rholtzjr · · Score: 1

    If Facebook is the requirement to a longer life, I will be content with my shorter life without it.

  13. Catchy headlines make money by WolfgangVL · · Score: 1

    ....Study finds.

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  14. People who eat caviar also live longer. by laserhead · · Score: 1

    Because people who eat caviar are richer and better health care. Correlation doesn't always mean a causal relationship. This kind of research is meaningless and lazy as fuck.

  15. Better Explanation by jrumney · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only old people use Facebook.

    This study is biased in that people who die young are unlikely to reach the age where thefacebook.com is the place to move your myspace activities to.

  16. Well, I'm fucked by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Just like Betty White, I see FB as nothing more than a majestic waste of time. I should make a will in the next 40 or so years.

  17. The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's History. by Braintrust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Holy Shit.

    I've been coming here since before the turn-of-the-century.

    Whoever is responsible for this should be profoundly ashamed.

    The single dumbest thing I've ever seen here.

    Wow.

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  18. Excellent. by msauve · · Score: 1

    So, going outside less extends your life.

    This is good news for /. users - because living in a room in your mom's basement should be even safer!

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    1. Re:Excellent. by ET3D · · Score: 1

      Actually, the research showed that those who posted photos lived longer, as opposed to those who just posted statuses, and I'd say that's correlated with going out.

      So the bottom line is: going out extends your life.

  19. What a BS study! by shubus · · Score: 1

    What are they doing? Creating years of fake data to come up with this nonsense? I want to know who FUNDED that study-Facebook itself, maybe? If this crap was true, guess I won't live long because I'm not on FB, and glad of it.

  20. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by sinij · · Score: 1

    If all these gender wars articles didn't kill /. then this stupid article won't either.

    This too shall pass.

  21. Study also finds by ruir · · Score: 1

    Those who use SlashAdvertsing fuck less.

  22. did they mention that by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    the study was funded by Mark Zuckerberg?

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  23. Dead People stop using Facebook, study finds. by Tatarize · · Score: 2

    Turns out people who exist maintain their existence for longer than those who fail to exist.

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  24. They live longer? by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

    Really, it only feels longer.

  25. DUH by Holi · · Score: 1

    People who use facebook have access to technology and are on average on the wealthier side of society, thus having access to better healthcare.

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  26. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by dysmal · · Score: 1

    I'm confident /. has posted dumber shit than this... Need i remind you of the dribble that was dished out during the Dice regime?

    That being said, this is some Dice level stupid shit!!!

  27. In other news by dysmal · · Score: 1

    People who DO NOT use The Facebook live happier lives.

  28. I don't even know where to begin... by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

    I agree with the fact that strong social connections is NOT generally the same as Facebook friends.

    But there's so much more, I don't even know what to say about TFS. Basically, if they're looking at people who have a high chance of dying, they're looking at folks above the age of 70 or so, and these people likely didn't start using Facebook until they were in their late 60s. Automatically, somebody who is that old but active on Facebook (note TFS mentions things like "posting pictures") is probably more tech-savvy and thus probably in better mental health than lots of folks that age. (My experience with my parents and others in that age group is that many can barely figure out how to turn a computer or tablet on or off.)

    And then you need to consider what active Facebook participation probably means about health in general. If you're dying of cancer and have lost your hair, or if you're wasting away due to a long-term degenerative disease making you look like a skeleton, or you have uncontrollable drooling, or whatever... are you seriously going to be posting Facebook photos? Lots of people still have some sense of pride about themselves when they get old, and they get depressed and withdrawn if they deteriorate physically enough. If they're actively posting photos on Facebook, they're probably less likely to be dying of something soon.

    And then you have this nonsense:

    "The fact that we found such a strong positive relationship between health and social networks speaks against the hypothesis that they're making us unhealthy in some way," he said.

    Well, most of the claims about why Facebook is "unhealthy" has to do with things like (1) it takes up spare time so you're not as likely to do stuff like be active, do something better for your body or brain, etc., or (2) Facebook substitutes for more personal interactions like seeing and talking face-to-face, etc.

    Except with people who are likely to die (mostly older people), they're probably sitting around in their recliners anyway for a lot of the day, so ANYTHING that gets their brain a little more active is probably better. And for those who have difficulty moving around (again, a lot of old people), this may actually be a good way for them to have both intellectual stimulation and social contact that they might have no other easy way of getting.

    Or, to put it more starkly -- for an 18-year-old, Facebook might keep them isolated in a room doing no exercise or other mentally stimulating activity, which might be bad. For an 80-year-old, they're already stuck in a room and unable to do exercise or socialize, so having Facebook is BETTER than default for them.

    I don't know. I'm not saying social media is evil either. But even if this study found correlations, they could mean just about anything. They certainly can't be applied to "debunk some of the negative associations people have with social media," which aren't generally about its use for geriatric social therapy.

  29. Re:Facebook = Crack Cocaine by dysmal · · Score: 1

    Much like crack addicts, Facebook addicts definitely experience a more disturbing part of the world than non-Facebook/crack addicts.

  30. Damn Statistics by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

    Same can be said about owners of Rolex watches. So make sure you go out and buy one.

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  31. In other news by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    lingering in cemeteries is correlated with being dead.

  32. Thanks for the information. by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    Wow. Glad to know that. I'll get busy posting all of my personal information to Facebook right away, and start posting updates every time that I do anything. To my friends at the N.S.A., I really appreciate you letting me know this.

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  33. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

    Time to check out SoylentNews? Similar comment system but generally sane modding, more responsive editors, less clickbait, no ads, no commercial interest at forcing crap on you. Smaller community so far, but a better chance of having good comments noticed.

  34. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by freeze128 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Whoever is responsible for this should be profoundly ashamed.

    That would be Yale and the University of California.

  35. Correlation by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    This looks like correlation to me. Social active people have also a higher rate to use FB. Also if you are richer you might have time and money to do your FB stuff mobile. Did they release their data? No? Don't believe it. This is most likely p hacked beyond repair.

  36. They do? by UnixUnix · · Score: 1

    Or does it just seem that way. [c.f. stock joke, "live to be 100"]

  37. Scientifically proven true by Laxator2 · · Score: 1

    Let's review the facts:

    1) A lot more people die driving/biking/walking/taking the bus/teleporting/etc over to a friend's place than those sitting in front of a computer.
    2) Using Facebook 18 hours a day dumbs down the senses to the point that nothing will give the person a heart attack.
    3) Slow metabolism induced by the lack of physical exercise when using Facebook reduces the wear of the vital organs, hence longer life is a given.

    Now I will follow Garry Kasparov's advice from his book "How life imitates chess". That one was about articles that explain what type of food is bad for your health, but it applies here a well:

    Just wait 6 months for the next study that will prove the opposite.

  38. Indeed! by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    "They found the risk of dying in a given year was 12 per cent lower for Facebook users than non-Facebook users."

    People who are too sick to use FB die earlier than those who do.
    Science is great.

  39. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by Braintrust · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the tip.

    Cheers.

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  40. Pump and dump via sence by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

    Hmm I bet thr lead cientist on this study has a sizable porion of their mone invested in Facebook and just wanr ro bump up the calue of thst investment befor dumoing it, but I've been known to be very sceptic when it comes tu studies of facebook

  41. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by sinij · · Score: 1

    I'm confident /. has posted dumber shit than this.../p>

    Some of guest posting by WhoShallNotBeNamed was out there... but this will certainly make Top 10 list.

  42. Procrastinators!!! by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    The reason is: procrastination. They are too lazy and/or depressed to go ahead and die.

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  43. Owners of Facebook invest in research studies by mitcheli · · Score: 1

    Just saying'.

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  44. Reduced mortality risk? by UsuallyReasonable · · Score: 1

    I thought the risk of mortality was 100% . . . ?

  45. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by avandesande · · Score: 1

    ... and they continue with the shaming of introverts or people not interested in the mainstream. These are the same people that have been forcing this 'group learning' in elementary and middle school, much to the detriment of the majority of boys. 'Social Science' is nothing but rot with an agenda.

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  46. Duh by zifn4b · · Score: 1

    When you don't ever leave your residence you are automatically safer from happening. There is a new study forthcoming that asserts people who use Facebook frequently tend to have more problems with obesity and heart disease though. They also seem to have incoherent thoughts that when observed appear to be an intricately connected matrix of various memes many of which contain cats.

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  47. Re:The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Histo by zifn4b · · Score: 1

    Whoever is responsible for this should be profoundly ashamed.

    That would be Yale and the University of California.

    They should study Brawndo next. It sounds like a logical next step.

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  48. Re: The Single Dumbest Article In This Site's Hist by gwjgwj · · Score: 1

    How it is not gender-related? Women use Facebook more and women live longer.

  49. Coma Patients and The Unhealthy Elderly by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

    Turns out, coma patients and the elderly with severe health issues don't use Facebook so much.