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Samsung Galaxy S8 Screen-To-Body Ratio Could Surpass 90%, Near Bezel-Less Design (hothardware.com)

MojoKid writes: There aren't many phones on the market currently that can boast an edge-to-edge display with minimal or no bezel on top and bottom, save for perhaps Xiaomi's recently unveiled Mi MIX. However, word on the web is that the field will expand by at least one more next year, and specifically with Samsung's Galaxy S8. This runs contrary to a previous rumor that the Galaxy S8 might only come with a curved edge display. That would be surprising since Samsung needs to sell as many Galaxy S8 phones as possible after the Galaxy Note 7 debacle. Only offering a curved edge model could be counterproductive to that goal, though offering an edge-to-edge display could be the spark Samsung needs. Park Won-sang, a principal engineer at Samsung Display noted the division would roll out a full-screen smartphone display with a "display area ratio [that] reaches more than 90 percent next year," during the iMiD 2016 display exhibition in Seoul last week. The engineer added that Samsung may even extend the display area ratio to 99 percent in the years ahead, which would mean virtually the entire front of the phone would be the screen. In case you're wondering, most of today's smartphones utilize a display area to bezel ratio of around 80 percent.

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  1. Tablet please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can we get a high end tablet please? 12 inch - 15 inch, Android, with a stylus, a super fast processor and as many pixels as you can shove in it??

    Really, now we officially have multi-windows, you can do it and make it work with all existing apps (none of that 'only for enabled apps' crap that Google are doing). Fix Google's shortcomings, particularly the idea that the person should rotate the screen to suit the app, instead of the app rotating to fit the user. With multi windows now you can make portrait windows sized to suit phone apps. So when you start phone apps, they don't force the tablet to be a 15 inch portrait fake phone, it can run multi phone apps side by side.

    Also Google Android team are making multi-windows that split up full screen, which is probably the correct thing. Whereas Chrome OS/Android team are making desktop windows more suited to a desktop PC with mouse, complete with movable bars, resize zones and so on, using unfriendly drag operations from WIMP days.

    Samsung can do it right, they don't have a CEO who keep trying to shove his Chrome crap into everything, so aren't stuck with the need to slap ChromeOS style windows around everything. They can official do a proper multi window Android on a tablet now.

    Likewise, Google won't put in flash cards, because they're Cloud dicks, you can.

    Likewise Google won't make it work with local network printers, only cloudy printers, again because they're cloud dicks, but you can fix that.

    Likewise, why close every app, and shut every background service (as if the tablet is a small battery phone), like Google do. It's f*ing annoying, why can't I pin an app to stay loaded!?

    Windows tablets are a meat market to run legacy apps, Android tablets are an untapped opportunity at the high end. Google are clueless, Samsung could get a clue.

  2. What about accidental drops?! by itsme1234 · · Score: 2

    I do like the current trend of getting more and more display real-estate on the same phone, I really do. Plus getting the buttons outside the screen, Samsung is on the right track here.

    BUT the fact that there is so little give means you can break your 600$/EUR phone just with a drop from the nightstand. Plus it's harder to hold it properly without touching the screen. I haven't had a phone with a case since pre-iPhone era, when Windows Mobile PDAs with large displays would crack even without while looking at them. It was all fine with 2010-2015 phones, stairs or concrete drops would just leave some small marks but nothing special. Now I've seen with the new S6/S67s so many cracked displays AND/or backs (glass back, really?!) that I had to think better and go back to using a case. And that defeats the whole purpose.

    1. Re:What about accidental drops?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've got a very thin case with a glass screen protector, something that would work well even if it were 98% screen.

      I accidentally throw my phone on the ground once or twice a month, usually pretty hard. It's been six years and I have never had any problem worse than shattering a $5 screen protector.

      I have no idea how people manage to actually break their phones. At some point it has to cross over into complete negligence.

    2. Re:What about accidental drops?! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thinner bezels are nice. Thinner phones are nice. Lighter weight is nice. They're all relatively minor things though.

      I'd rather a slighter heavier larger phone with a bezel that has a better battery life.

      I'd put Performance, storage, battery life, and a headphone jack above bezel size, thickness or weight. In reality, in 2016, most phones are thin and light enough already with small enough bezels. Whereas improving those things are nice, they're chasing diminishing returns on improvement by improving them.

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    3. Re:What about accidental drops?! by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Too thin bezels are a pain because you can't effectively securely hold the phone without touching screen. So balance on your palm pretty much guaranteeing you will drop it repeatedly, so that's why they want thin bezels.

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  3. About time! by engun · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The primary interaction surface of a phone is the screen. Once a basic level of performance and functionality is met, the things that mattered the most to me is:
    1. 1. Is the thing pocketable? My limit for how large a phone can be without impeding one's movement is the original Galaxy Note - anything larger, and you have to adjust your lifestyle, clothing and gait to suit the phone.
    2. 2. Given that size limit, the next criteria is how large the screen-to-body ratio is, as bezels are mostly a waste of space as far as a user is concerned (barring a bit for gripping the phone)
    3. 3. Afterwards, the phone needs to offer a decent resolution, CPU and RAM, not have bloatware etc. Most flagships meet the latter criteria fairly well.

    Therefore, I boughthttps://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/11/02/2135240/samsung-galaxy-s8-screen-to-body-ratio-could-surpass-90-near-bezel-less-design# an LG G3 a few years ago precisely because it was perhaps the only phone that met the above criteria at the time. After the G4, LG has lost the plot and done everything except optimise the screen-to-body ratio. My next phone will likely be a Galaxy S8, provided it does not violate no. 1 above.

    1. Re:About time! by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

      If a phone only has enough disk space to install 5 custom apps, it's not very usable. If the CPU isn't fast enough to run the app you want well, it's not very usable. If you plan to use it for VR but the phone doesn't have a gryo, it's not usable. If you plan to use it for driving directions and it doesn't have GPS, it's not usable. Etc.

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    2. Re:About time! by phishybongwaters · · Score: 2

      what fucking planet are you living on where you can buy a 'smart phone' that has 3 megs of drive space, 12k of ram, no gyro and no gps? I think you are confusing a smartphone with a calculator.... from 1980.

  4. Re:Explosive news by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not if it comes to Samsung.

    But to be honest - having the screen going close to the edge causes a different set of problems - that the fingers holding the phone are touching the display causing incorrect input. A problem for us with large hands.

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  5. Why would I want this? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not a fscking TV, it's a phone, and a bezel is a feature, not a drawback. You know, an area that allows a case, (and my fingers), to have enough overlap to actually grip the phone securely - important now that the phones are so god-damned thin they bend in a gust of wind and are already hard to hold on to. Besides, it's not like anyone is making a video wall out of phones. Enough already!

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  6. Best feature by jrumney · · Score: 3, Funny

    The best feature to come out of the trend for ever bigger screens will be the death of the selfie. With nowhere left to put a front facing camera, people will have to start taking photos of things other than themselves again.

  7. Re:I want a nubile girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is Slashdot, you'll find there's still no essential difference there.

  8. Re:Explosive news by Xest · · Score: 2

    Not gonna lie, I found a certain amount of amusement in the fact a story about a new Samsung phone was coming from a site called Hot Hardware too.

    Oh Samsung, I know you want to move past this, but I think you have some work to do yet.

  9. Re:When will they publish... by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2

    I don't know, but I am burning with anticipation.

  10. Re:Easy solution. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, so that way apps that automatically scale up to the size of your display, and expect "edge swipe" gestures don't work very good because the edge is a dead zone... but only on a few phones that have hardware designed for marketing rather than function.

    Good call.

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  11. so, how do you hold the thing? by green1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have a Note 4 at the moment, it is hard enough to hold that phone without accidentally touching the edges of the touchscreen. Between Samsung's insistence on their "edge" design, and this, there's simply no possible way to hold any of these devices anymore.

    Despite my last bunch of phones all being Samsung, I've already decided my next phone won't be a Samsung, the reasons are listed below in no particular order:
    - "edge" design (hard to hold on to, distorts images and videos)
    - lack of removable battery (sure I don't change it often, but had I not been able to replace my $30 battery a couple months ago I would have needed a $1000 phone instead)
    - lack of SD card support (though in fairness they seem to have backtracked on that one a bit)
    - difficulties rooting and customizing (they've started locking things down more, and even when they don't, many root tools don't work on samsung like they do on other devices)

    Not yet sure what I will get, my Note4 probably has a bunch of life left in it, but whatever I get won't likely be from Samsung.