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Future iPhones Could Fold In Half (geek.com)

Apple has just received a patent, titled "electronic devices with carbon nanotube printing circuits," that suggests future iPhones may be foldable -- at least to some degree. Geek reports: Based on the language in the patent, it doesn't sound like Apple is specifically talking about a device that has a fully bendable display. It mentions one that can bend "along edges of touch sensors or displays." The carbon nanotube PCBs provide flexibility for some of the phone's internals, but not all of them. Those other parts will likely be covered by other patents if Apple is genuinely working on a seamless foldable device. The usual caveats apply here. For now, this is simply yet another patent padding Apple's already massive portfolio. Could they be planning to release an iPhone that folds in half? Definitely.

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  1. Thanks Apple by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    Uh, we already HAD flip phones.

    1. Re:Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you didn't, this is NEW, it's Apple, and only a brave and original company like Apple could ever be crazy enough to think of a phone that folded in half because it's Apple and Apple is awesome and ...

      * inhales *

      And that's why Apple is getting patents on folding phones, because they're so creative and they're going to have patented rounded corners, wow, how creative is THAT, huh, Samsung could never compare to Apple which has phones that fold in half and rounded corners! /sarc - I think

    2. Re:Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Courage" you jackass. Why the fuck can't you nerds remember a simple word.

    3. Re:Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "See there? See that line just in the middle of the phone? That's where it folds together.

      We call that the Bend-Gate."

    4. Re: Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He said courage without saying it. That's pretty impressive.

    5. Re:Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "only a courage and original company"? Why the fuck can't you trolls speak English?

    6. Re:Thanks Apple by unixisc · · Score: 1

      "Courage" you jackass. Why the fuck can't you nerds remember a simple word.

      He decided to show courage by not saying it, instead of saying it

    7. Re:Thanks Apple by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      I don't think this has anything to do with flip phones or even bendable devices. I'd bet that this is all about creating components that can be more easily bent and squeezed into tiny spaces, such as you find in many of today's consumer electronics devices. Think about the advantages of being able to roll your circuit board up and stuffing it into a pen-type device.

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    8. Re:Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, we already HAD flip phones.

      I still have one. I chose it specifically because it fits in my pocket.

      The people a the office with smart phones tend to use them as desk phones. Leave them on their desk when out, so that when they ring, the entire office gets interrupted.

    9. Re:Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer non-flip but that's the same.
      Micro-USB on non-smart phones solved the power supply problem. I could finally order a phone, new and unlocked and keep it for many years rather than look for some decade old piece of junk in other people's drawers and bags, pay 10€ at a shop to get it unlocked, and cling to one or two specific chargers religiously.
      Now I have something unkillable, more efficient, with FM radio and a small white LED.

      I would like to "upgrade", if a similar phone came out with USB 2.0 instead of 1.1, but it should be as good and still not have internet access. Might be fun if the display is 1.8" 160x128 OLED instead of 1.8" 160x128 TFT.

    10. Re:Thanks Apple by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      And that's why Apple is getting patents on folding phones, because they're so creative and they're going to have patented rounded corners, wow, how creative is THAT, huh, Samsung could never compare to Apple which has phones that fold in half and rounded corners! /sarc - I think

      Apple is in for a surprise when they arrive at the patent office. Samsung has already patented folding phones.

      http://www.digitaltrends.com/m...

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    11. Re:Thanks Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still have one, a burner for ATT when I need it.

    12. Re:Thanks Apple by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      And that's why Apple is getting patents on folding phones, because they're so creative and they're going to have patented rounded corners, wow, how creative is THAT, huh, Samsung could never compare to Apple which has phones that fold in half and rounded corners! /sarc - I think

      Apple is in for a surprise when they arrive at the patent office. Samsung has already patented folding phones.

      http://www.digitaltrends.com/m...

      Yeah, and I applaud them for demoing that by putting a sheet of paper into a plastic case and then folding that.

      But back to to the real point: this isn't about patenting "a foldable display" as in "all possible foldable displays", it's about a technology to make a foldable display. And Samsung uses "a metal thin film", Apple uses "a carbon nanotube flexible printed circuit". Notice the difference?

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    13. Re:Thanks Apple by myth24601 · · Score: 1

      iFlip ?

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  2. no inputs or screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    but it won't have any inputs and the screen won't be visible without a $25 dongle you add to your $600 iGlasses that have to be connected to your iWatch (something has to tell this thing the time) because they think that is the next great thing

  3. Cook's newest invention by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 0

    The iFlipPhone. With a display on one part, and an innovative 12 button keyboard on the other that allows you to use a combination of strokes per key (1, 2, or 3 presses in succession) to enter text one character at a time!

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    1. Re:Cook's newest invention by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      You joke but I'm seriously thinking about going back to my old w995.

    2. Re:Cook's newest invention by The-Ixian · · Score: 0

      It will also have rounded corners like nobody's business....

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    3. Re:Cook's newest invention by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      And they'll make it thin. I mean, THIN thin. Really thin. Like super thin. Unbelieveably thin. Like thin as a razor. So thin you can't even use all the letters to describe it.

      The Apple iPhone Razr.

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    4. Re:Cook's newest invention by c · · Score: 2

      And they'll make it thin.

      That's why Apple will never produce a foldable phone... those filthy, uncouth users might choose to fold it in half, instantly doubling its thickness.

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    5. Re:Cook's newest invention by future+assassin · · Score: 0

      Wait till they discover slider phones. Its amazingly fantastic slide out keyboard.

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    6. Re:Cook's newest invention by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Patent Logic 101:

          X via human hand: not patentable

          X via robot hand: patentable

          X via Internet: patentable

          X via phone screen: patentable

          X in the cloud: patentable

    7. Re:Cook's newest invention by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Slide out keyboards require extra thickness so they won't go for that. Besides the virtual keyboard already slides up from the bottom of the screen.

    8. Re:Cook's newest invention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This week I recharged, popped in a 3G SIM that had been in an original HTC Desire (bravo) and switched on my old Nokia 8310.
      Registered to the network (with a hilariously old operator logo of One 2 One) and worked just fine. Lasted 3 days before the battery gave in, and I can't remember how good the battery used to be on that.

    9. Re:Cook's newest invention by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      I used to get well over a week out of a charge on some of my old Motorola flip phones. Yes, there aren't too many cases where I can't charge my phone on a daily basis, but it was nice to not have to care about always plugging in your phone without having to worry about your battery life the next day.

    10. Re:Cook's newest invention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still use my VE66. It's the best phone I have ever used and that includes modern smartphones.

    11. Re:Cook's newest invention by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      And they'll make it thin.

      That's why Apple will never produce a foldable phone... those filthy, uncouth users might choose to fold it in half, instantly doubling its thickness.

      They already make a foldable phone. Of course, you can only fold it once...

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    12. Re:Cook's newest invention by kuzb · · Score: 1

      Apple: the courage to shave.

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    13. Re:Cook's newest invention by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Wait till they invent and patent slider phones. Its amazingly fantastic slide out keyboard.

      FTFY

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    14. Re:Cook's newest invention by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      But it won't be a Dollar Shave Club. No sir! This is Apple! It will be a $29.95 Shave Club, only need 3 dongles ($19 retail each), and so shiny!

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    15. Re:Cook's newest invention by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      "The 3 dongle shave club"... Sounds dongly

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  4. They invented the flip-phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What will they think of next?

    1. Re:They invented the flip-phone? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Maybe they will add an external antennae!

    2. Re:They invented the flip-phone? by quenda · · Score: 2

      Maybe they will add an external antennae!

      Its the obvious solution to all those idiots who are holding it wrong.

    3. Re:They invented the flip-phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've already way passed that having already shit all over NeXT a long time ago.

  5. Pushing courage to its limit by chrism238 · · Score: 1

    Get rid of those last few pesky ports, and we'll be able to fold Apple's laptops into quarters.

    1. Re: Pushing courage to its limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, professionals need that, just as badly as emoji bar

    2. Re:Pushing courage to its limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't know the Jetsons drive an iCar! https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  6. Wow, such brave! by yuriklastalov · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now you can roll your phone up and shove it up your ass!

    1. Re:Wow, such brave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would make them easier to smuggle into prison.

    2. Re: Wow, such brave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if someone will jailbreak the "iBend over" version

    3. Re:Wow, such brave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The more veteran Apple users wouldn't need to roll it up.

    4. Re:Wow, such brave! by wickerprints · · Score: 1

      I think Apple's response to that would be, "You're folding it wrong."

    5. Re:Wow, such brave! by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      roll your phone up and shove it up your [body part]

      Simplify: skip the first step.

      Actually, every phone is fold-able. Whether it's still useful afterwards is another matter.

    6. Re:Wow, such brave! by malditaenvidia · · Score: 1

      At least you can't fault apple for not knowing their user base.

    7. Re: Wow, such brave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not a chance, Crook will make sure you will be allowed to smuggle it one way only

    8. Re:Wow, such brave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The more veteran Apple users wouldn't need to roll it up.

      Found the non-virgin.

    9. Re:Wow, such brave! by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Actually, every phone is fold-able. Whether it's still useful afterwards is another matter.

      Indeed.

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    10. Re:Wow, such brave! by dasgoober · · Score: 1

      Or "You're shoving it up your ass wrong."

    11. Re:Wow, such brave! by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Slashdot doesn't make me laugh often but this did. Cheers

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    12. Re:Wow, such brave! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like how this is modded interesting.

  7. Current iPhones already fold in half by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once.

  8. That's really cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I really like that idea! But, I liked it even better when it was called the Microsoft Courier.

  9. I'm holding out for an omniphone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fold in half, like a flip phone? Pfui.

    I want something like the omniphone (omni for short) described in Alastair Mayer's T-Space stories, which is based on the Nokia Morph concept. (See also the video, here.)

  10. Geez, copying Samsung now? by Solandri · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Geez, copying Samsung now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft 2009... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5X2PxtvMsU

    2. Re:Geez, copying Samsung now? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Apple can't copy Samsung, because they invented telephones.

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  11. My iPhone 7 folds in half by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, give it a try. Put some muscle in it. You'll get it eventually.

  12. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They fold in 1/2 now.

  13. Apple now patents folding things in half by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you thought rounded corners weren't patentable, you ain't seen nothing yet.

  14. So what? by Orgasmatron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Current iPhones can already fold in half, if you push hard enough. Wake me up when we can unfold them back into a functional state.

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    1. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Current iPhones can already fold in half, if you push hard enough. Wake me up when we can unfold them back into a functional state.

      You're folding it wrong!

    2. Re:So what? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      Current iPhones can already fold in half, if you push hard enough. Wake me up when we can unfold them back into a functional state.

      You're folding it wrong!

      I see what you did there - bravo!

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    3. Re:So what? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      That's the actual use-case for this tech. The iPhone 6/6S suffers from touch disease, a condition where flexing causes the touch screen controller IC to fail. By making the PCB more flexible, it is less likely to fail due to being kept in someone's pocket.

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    4. Re:So what? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Current iPhones can already fold in half, if you push hard enough. Wake me up when we can unfold them back into a functional state.

      You're folding it wrong!

      I see what you did there - bravo!

      Don't you mean courage?

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    5. Re:So what? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      This. All the wild speculation misses the really low-hanging fruit use case.

  15. That would be pretty goddamn cool by Sloppy · · Score: 2

    This wouldn't be enough to make me buy an iOS device, but I have to admit it would make me a little jealous. I miss the compactness of my old flip phone. It seems phones have been getting smaller in stupid ways (e.g. by having ever-more-anemic batteries, as if I give a fuck about its thickness) instead of getting smaller in actually-convenient ways. Most phones, you can easily get 4-8 times as thick and have it be just as good (and probably gain something useful, like battery space) so folding for 2x thickness while reducing its biggest dimension, is a good move.

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    1. Re:That would be pretty goddamn cool by Trogre · · Score: 1

      ^ This.

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  16. The phones are already foldable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, to some degree at least.

    1. Re:The phones are already foldable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recently witnessed one moment when a iDiot friend of mine was boasting how shiny and thin his iPhone was. After he took it off the awful cover, he found out that the phone was bent. I never understood what is the point of having a thin phone which then needs a thick cover and even then it is not physically fit to take normal usage.

  17. They Already Do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Folding an iPhone isn't exactly easy, but it becomes easier with each New! Thinner! World Changing! generation.

    1. Re:They Already Do by EdZep · · Score: 1

      Folding an iPhone is also easier in the full-sized Ford Transit, with the odd door pocket that becomes inaccessible when the door is closed: https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/some-people-arent-the-brightest-crown-in-the-box-15-gifs-7.gif?w=400

  18. Probably need a new connector by rkitts · · Score: 1

    And it won't work with any Mac without adapter.

  19. Rollable phone by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

    There was a series from New Zealand called This is Not My Life and they had an interesting idea of a phone (though it probably showed up elsewhere too). Take a canister that you could wrap your hand around and make it slightly longer. From there the screen is pulled out. It's about the size of a man's hand. When you done with it then you just push it back into the canister part. It's been a while since I've watch the series so I forget all of the detail of what it could do. Basically an advanced smart phone that also lets you control your home environment.

    It's also a pretty good show. They were supposed to make a second season but some company from the US bought the rights to the show and an American version was supposed to be made.

    1. Re:Rollable phone by ch0knuti · · Score: 2

      Samsung had a concept short on the sort of thing you mentioned (2013). The add is rather the stupid but the tech showcased is rather interesting.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  20. Yawn by sootman · · Score: 1
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  21. Huh? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

    Aren't printed circuits using carbon nanotubes kind of the entire point of carbon nanotubes? How can hey be awarded a patent on it?

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the problem with patents, you can patent the obvious if no one else has

    2. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not only can they patent the obvious, they can patent utter fantasy and don't even have to build it. Every patent must be accompanied with a working prototype and only then it should be deemed patentable.

  22. Apple iShave by unixisc · · Score: 1

    And they'll include a shaving app to that phone that can shave the beards of most people these days so that they don't look like ISIS or al Qaeda fighters

  23. Resistant to bending.. by willy_me · · Score: 2

    Looks like people are making this out to be more then it really is. I assume the main purpose is to allow for devices that can tolerate repeated bending - such as leaving it in you back pocket when sitting down. The described patent would eliminate the "touch disease" that was reported with the iPhone 6.

  24. wow! by bigdavex · · Score: 1

    Can I just flip it back open? WOW!

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  25. Prior art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see how Apple can possibly get a patent on this. ALL cellphone manufacturer's have been experimenting with fold-able phones for years. Many (particularly Samsung) have working prototypes with their own patents on file. Samsung's original prediction was that they would have a fold-able phone out this year. http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-flexible-foldable-phone-vidoes-2015-9 They have since pushed this out to 2017.

    I realize that Apple is talking about one particular technology (carbon nanotubes), but considering Apple's past questionable practices (lawsuits on patented geometric shapes, slide-to-unlock, etc) I believe that Apple is looking at all the competition on the cusp of coming out with a consumer model and quickly produced a weaponized patent in an attempt to tie up any competition in court.

    1. Re:Prior art? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Considering the patent office is nothing more than a rubber stamp, I fully expect this and any other patent they submit to be granted. They got a fucking patent on a black phone with rounded corners.

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  26. Please stop. Please. by Bartles · · Score: 1

    Just give me a gimmick free phone. I want blazing fast hardware, as much battery life as possible, a good looking screen, and I don't want it to break if I look at it the wrong way.

  27. Smaller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a smaller phone instead of a phablet? If they were truly innovative, they could get it into the form factor of a ball point pen.

  28. Already foldable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The iPhone is already foldable; just have to give it some effort.

  29. Ass by antdude · · Score: 1

    Poor donkey!

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  30. Unfold to Unlock by davidshenba · · Score: 2

    I am patenting that...

  31. Will they fold accidently or as a design feature? by hughbar · · Score: 1

    Just askin' as they're getting thinner and thinner.

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  32. weeeee by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    I've always wanted an iFlip

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  33. Headphone Jack by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    I'd rather have a headphone jack than a phone that folds in half.

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  34. Re:Please stop. Please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody buys an iPhone for the Phone part, buy a dumbphone

    Kyocera DurXT - fucking indestructible, a tiny bit nicer than the Samsung Gusto 2. Compact, good battery life, does what it needs to

  35. We have that already by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

    Current iPhones will fold in half. They just stop working after that.

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