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The FBI Spent Two Years Investigating An Online Cult That Didn't Exist (muckrock.com)
A two-year FBI investigation apparently centered on the satirical web site "GodHatesGoths". Long-time Slashdot reader v3rgEz writes:
In 2005, the FBI launched an investigation into the "Church of the Hammer," a fundamentalist Christian sect which called for the wholesale slaughter of practitioners of the goth subculture. Two years later, the investigation was closed, on grounds that the Church didn't exist.
The FBI's threat assessment detailed "an extremely right-wing Christian group that adheres to a Middle Ages Catholic text called the 'Malleus Malificarum.'" But MuckRock.com reports that "The Bureau's main source on the case was a goth who had engaged with members of the Church via their Yahoo Group...trying to dispel their misconceptions about the relationship between the subculture and Satanism." After two years of scouring through crime databases and making phone calls to the Salem police department, FBI investigators actually visited the GodHatesGoths web site -- which turned out to be a parody.
which is what they wanted them to think
IDIOT
Is incompetent.
This is a Catholic text about witchcraft, after all. What better cult to investigate than Catholicism? If the leader of a cult like FLDS molest children, he rightly ends up on a most wanted list and eventually in prison. Warren Jeffs absolutely belongs in prison and all forms of LDS are creepy cults. But Catholicism seems to get a free pass, where clergy molest children and then are shielded by bishops or even by the Vatican. The clergy are shuffled around while allegations by victims are hushed. If the allegations get too loud, the clergy get recalled to the Vatican, where they can avoid foreign prosecution. Catholicism is a really big and really nasty cult that needs to be investigated and shut down. We'd solve a lot of the world's problems just by ridding ourselves of dangerous cults like Catholicism and Islam.
Next, pastafarians and the church of the flying spaghetti monster.
Well, what did you expect from a bunch of government workers who into the bargain are working for an organization that is reported to be a veritable nest to Trump voters... intelligence?
Maybe they should investigate teh Catholic Church.
Perhaps this isn't wasted time.
Any time spent on this activity was time that was not available for activities such as persecuting people like Aaron Swartz.
The FBI has been a corrupt organization since its founding. Any real criminals caught by the FBI are perhaps an aberration rather than the FBI performing its primary mission.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Based on many years of infrequent information, I agree. The FBI is EXTREMELY badly managed, as are all the secret or mostly secret U.S. government agencies.
Consider the situation: If a secret government agency does something destructive or stupid, the agency managers have many ways to hide their incompetence.
even fake stuff can have consiquences look at slider man.
... of somewhat crazy people that waste time and money. An overly powerful, overly funded cult. As with many cults, I don't think I would want to work with/for an organization that gets in the news for so many ridiculous things so often.
Hey America, why not vote for someone who's smart enough to do a cost-benefit analysis on the FBI and make changes? I don't know who, but it's probably not Trump or Clinton.
and support the rump.
They also investigated the Kingsmen's Louie Louie for 31 months for obscenity before deciding the lyrics were indecipherable.
The FBI called me up asking about some website I had visited, thinking that it was related to Columbine. It turned out, they were investigating a website related to the tabletop RPG "Teenagers from Outer Space," which apparently the Columbine kids played and wrote about in one of their journals.
In between gales of laughter, I told the agent that if he had any more leads on threats from role playing games that he should feel free to give me a call and I'd be happy to help out as best I could.
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Lot's of people are migrating for freedom to New Hampshire to take part in a movement to end tyranny and the state (short term goal is not secession, as that's more complicated, but rather to have an undue influence on politics via an over-active minority in the state- which should and has already led to more people liberty-loving folks migrating for the cause and a lot of positive impact on state and local politics; people are doing it and they live in New Hampshire):
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http://www.shiresociety.com/
I talked to a homosexual once and got the AIDS. Now I cant stop sucking dick.
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They're BOTH. Why does it have to be one or the other?
Mr Thiel, this is not the time nor place.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Sounds like just another day in the life of the Clintons.
This article has been posted to discredit the FBI, the revelation of the Democratic party's "Spirit Cooking" scandal, and the Clinton corruption investigations.
The burden of proof is on the accuser and the only things that have been documented are accusations.
You might want to look up Watergate/rat-fucking and Lee Atwater to get a hint of why Hillary has the reputation she does today but you probably won't.
a "2 year investigation" could easily just be somebody at the FBI keeping tabs on them to make sure it really is just harmless trolling. That's sorta what an investigation is. And befor you ask yes, I do want my law enforcement to keeping tabs of folks who go around advocating violence. It's not too hard to do it without violating anybody's rights and if we'd done a bit more of that perhaps that whole Sept 11 fracas coulda been avoided.
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... of investigating none existing crimes.
Just saying.
A vast right wing Russian, KGB/FSB, FBI conspiracy to steal the election from Clinton.
Good thing there is 3 days to go.
Oh join me fellow Comeyites, to give the iPhone a holy back door like God has asked of his followers, per Galatians 8:12. For God needeth space ships and God needeth back doors.
Table-ized A.I.
>Hillary fed the FBI tons of false leads so they wouldnt notice her corrupt deals.
Fortunately, an email by a tech saying he was part of the Clinton coverup operation was ruled a joke by the FBI.
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/09/24/20160924%20-%20Hillary%20Coverup%20Operation.jpg)
I wonder why it took them so little time to decide that was a joke, but took two years on these guys.
Yup, just the FBI honouring its founder - looking for monsters under beds and, when they don't find any, trying to create them. Helluva make-work project.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
You too, huh? Umm, wanna meet?
Don't publish this too much further - the FBI is already embarrassed by/about the Clinton investigation.
Revealing this would make them laughingstocks of law enforcement for a decade to come.
And we are relying on them to determine about Hillary's emails and Donald's links to Russia? jesus christ help us all.
I'd honestly doubt many man hours were spent on this. Probably just forgotten till someone noticed. They check the site see its fake and close it. The only reason we are hearing about this is because of the whole #SpiritCooking thing. Plus this author has just been submitting muckrock.com links for 2 years dozens and dozens. Not sure if human or bot to be honest.
If you (and I suspect, many of the people who gave you karma) had actually read the article, which contains excerpts from files of the investigation, you would know that it was not the FBI keeping tabs on anyone, it was a "threat assessment". From one of those files: "Writer could not locate via open sources (Internet, [etc]) any information to substantiate the existence of Rev. Green or the church." From a subsequent file dated 2 years (I think muckrock typoed the year) after the writer was assigned to it: "Writer went to godhatesgoths.com, the website produced by "Rev. Green"..."
Knowing about something before talking about it is sorta what common courtesy is. And before you ask, yes I do want people in the forums I visit to read articles before commenting on them. It's not hard to do it (or simply keep your mouth shut if you haven't) without making a fool of yourself. If you and people like you, and the FBI do a bit more of it perhaps stupid posts, irrelevant assumptions about what other people may or may not ask, rights and Sept 11, as well as wasteful investigations could be avoided.
If you (and I suspect, many of the people who gave you karma) had actually read the article, which contains excerpts from files of the investigation, you would know that it was not the FBI keeping tabs on anyone, it was a "threat assessment". From one of those files: "Writer could not locate via open sources (Internet, [etc]) any information to substantiate the existence of Rev. Green or the church." From a subsequent file dated [b]2 years[/b] (I think muckrock typoed the year) after the writer was assigned to it: "Writer went to godhatesgoths.com, the website produced by "Rev. Green"..."
Knowing about something before talking about it is sorta what common courtesy is. And before you ask, yes I do want people in the forums I visit to read the articles before commenting. It's not hard to do it (or simply keep your mouth shut if you haven't) without making a fool of yourself. If you and people like you, and the FBI do a bit more of it perhaps stupid posts, irrelevant associations about what other people may or may not ask, rights and Sept 11, as well as wasteful investigations could be avoided.
Fixed that title for ya.
Back in the late 80s or mid 90s, I forget exactly when, police and the FBI spent years assembling a massive chart of where, when, and how Satanists met, stole, and ate human babies. Guess what: that never happened either. And that whole thing was pre-Internet-as-we-know-it. They had to come up with that shit based on verbal rumor and wishful thinking.
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There's a reason the local police often have nicknames like the above for the FBI, and it isn't all jurisdictional jealousy...
They should investigate the Ordo Malleus, I hear they do racial cleansing and such. Really nasty stuff.
Reminder that the FBI start an investigation of the notorious Gamergate roughly two years ago as well. Perhaps its time for Muckrock to submit another FOIA on the status of the investigation.
see Podesta emails SpiritCooking? lady gaga, J-Z, plenty at the white house partake in unsavory ceremonies. those who try to daylight them suicide=murdered
In today's news: FBI Agent Suspected in Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead in Apparent Murder-Suicide http://denverguardian.com/2016/11/05/fbi-agent-suspected-hillary-email-leaks-found-dead-apparent-murder-suicide/
Obama is in it too! He is leaning on Dept of Justice Not to Dig! Anthony VVeiner and Donald Trump= two pricks who saved us from the Hildebeast :)
"do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" { Aleister Crowley's Book of the Law = how to do rituals drink elixir to 'bring forth the Bohemoth
I checked the spelling Bohemoth: LooK what someone posted in wikipeda on Nov4th: " World government in fiction
scurrilous novel New Shoes, RD Le Coeur has the president of earth as BernadoBohemothBeelzebub who the alien visitors come seeking on Earth. ISBN978-1-84923-882-3
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Now we know why after talking in private to Pope Francis John Boehner quit being Speaker of the House!
WHO SUPPORTS HILLARY CLINTON IS ON THE SIDE OF EVIL - WHETHER THEY KNOW IT OR NOT IS A QUESTION WE NEED TO ASK
At one time the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA), a medieval reenactment group, was tracked by the FBI because they thought it was "The Society for Creative Anarchy" instead. Considering that the messages going back and forth among members often invite involved plotting against other "kingdoms", waging war, building medieval war machines, swords, armor, etc. you can maybe appreciate where they were coming from :-) Fortunately, one of their agents was a member or had kids that were members.
And this is a bad thing, why, exactly?
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
READ the wikileaks e-mails they might find the one of John Podesta going to a satanitst/wiccan (sorry, cults are not my thing and I forget which it was) ceremony and THAT might be what it takes to get those idiots to look at the REST of the content and start counting all the felonies that they would pursue with a fervor if committed by Hillary Smith or Hillary Jones.
Who knew that it would be crazy religious nonsense that get them to spend time and manpower "investigating"... of course, then we get to the secondary issue of COMPTENECE and I'm afraid we're all screwed...
Either they were real thorough or they're really slow.
From someone named Nathan Poe.
You don't prove claims false, especially something posted without evidence. Assert without evidence, expect to be dismissed without evidence. Go on then, off you fuck.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
With results like this, it's NO WONDER they were about to examine over 650,000 emails in under 690,000 seconds.
I have to say, I feel safe knowing such solid and intelligent investigators are out there looking out for our best interests.