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The FBI Spent Two Years Investigating An Online Cult That Didn't Exist (muckrock.com)
A two-year FBI investigation apparently centered on the satirical web site "GodHatesGoths". Long-time Slashdot reader v3rgEz writes:
In 2005, the FBI launched an investigation into the "Church of the Hammer," a fundamentalist Christian sect which called for the wholesale slaughter of practitioners of the goth subculture. Two years later, the investigation was closed, on grounds that the Church didn't exist.
The FBI's threat assessment detailed "an extremely right-wing Christian group that adheres to a Middle Ages Catholic text called the 'Malleus Malificarum.'" But MuckRock.com reports that "The Bureau's main source on the case was a goth who had engaged with members of the Church via their Yahoo Group...trying to dispel their misconceptions about the relationship between the subculture and Satanism." After two years of scouring through crime databases and making phone calls to the Salem police department, FBI investigators actually visited the GodHatesGoths web site -- which turned out to be a parody.
which is what they wanted them to think
IDIOT
This is a Catholic text about witchcraft, after all. What better cult to investigate than Catholicism? If the leader of a cult like FLDS molest children, he rightly ends up on a most wanted list and eventually in prison. Warren Jeffs absolutely belongs in prison and all forms of LDS are creepy cults. But Catholicism seems to get a free pass, where clergy molest children and then are shielded by bishops or even by the Vatican. The clergy are shuffled around while allegations by victims are hushed. If the allegations get too loud, the clergy get recalled to the Vatican, where they can avoid foreign prosecution. Catholicism is a really big and really nasty cult that needs to be investigated and shut down. We'd solve a lot of the world's problems just by ridding ourselves of dangerous cults like Catholicism and Islam.
Next, pastafarians and the church of the flying spaghetti monster.
They also investigated the Kingsmen's Louie Louie for 31 months for obscenity before deciding the lyrics were indecipherable.
As I suspected this is an FBI hit piece, related to the election.
Is incompetent.
No, they're CORRUPT.
As in "no reasonable prosecutor" BULLSHIT to let Crooked Liar Felon Hillary! off.
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They're BOTH. Why does it have to be one or the other?
Mr Thiel, this is not the time nor place.
You are welcome on my lawn.
This article has been posted to discredit the FBI, the revelation of the Democratic party's "Spirit Cooking" scandal, and the Clinton corruption investigations.
So what you're saying is, the FBI is in like, the sweet spot of corruption, where they're corrupt enough to not prosecute her, but not corrupt enough to have not investigated in the first place? How convenient.
And what about prosecuting Crooked Asshole Trump? Hate speech, death threats, conspiracy to commit crimes, fraud, tax evasion... just when you think the man couldn't get any more stupid, racist or misogynist, he opens his mouth again... Or a recording surfaces of him opening his mouth in the past... But OMG! Crooked Hillary sent and received emails, burn her on the spot!
The douche himself says he could murder someone in broad daylight and his supporters would still vote for him; it's true, redneck white trash KKK members don't know any better, in fact they'd be more supportive of him if the victim were black, Hispanic, Muslim, female, democrat or gay. Meanwhile, Hillary could use her "God given right" to bear military assault rifles and shoot up an Orphanage for Cute Children, Puppies and Kitties, and her supporters would still vote for her because she'd still be the least worst option compared to Trump (but the NRA would love her too!).
And Americans are too stupid in general to consider any other candidates because they all complain about how no one else will vote outside of those two, so it's just "throwing away my vote".
They let Rove, Cheney, and the RNC get away with all kinds of things like running a private mail server, leaking classified information to the press, facilitating bribery, etc. Were they corrupt then?
The Obama administration is one of the LEAST corrupt and MOST competent in American history.
You know, I literally learned this from watching conservatives. When you can't challenge facts, challenge the reasoning of the facts.
I'd say to send some cruise missiles,
I prefer the idea of strapping Tom Cruise to a missile - no matter what the target, as long as it's launched.
It's surprising how slow they are in real life. The guys on Criminal Minds would've wrapped this up in a 1 hour episode and had enough time left over to read all of HRC's emails.
If you're talking about the Waukesha, WI case, the girl actually survived even though she was stabbed 19 times. Being from the area, it wasn't surprising. Most of the people around there practically get their news from internet memes. Ask any random stranger in a gas station here what stood out the most from the incident, they'll say, "It's really scary that Slenderman is still out on the streets".
a "2 year investigation" could easily just be somebody at the FBI keeping tabs on them to make sure it really is just harmless trolling. That's sorta what an investigation is. And befor you ask yes, I do want my law enforcement to keeping tabs of folks who go around advocating violence. It's not too hard to do it without violating anybody's rights and if we'd done a bit more of that perhaps that whole Sept 11 fracas coulda been avoided.
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... of investigating none existing crimes.
Just saying.
A vast right wing Russian, KGB/FSB, FBI conspiracy to steal the election from Clinton.
Good thing there is 3 days to go.
Oh join me fellow Comeyites, to give the iPhone a holy back door like God has asked of his followers, per Galatians 8:12. For God needeth space ships and God needeth back doors.
Table-ized A.I.
>Hillary fed the FBI tons of false leads so they wouldnt notice her corrupt deals.
Fortunately, an email by a tech saying he was part of the Clinton coverup operation was ruled a joke by the FBI.
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2016/09/24/20160924%20-%20Hillary%20Coverup%20Operation.jpg)
I wonder why it took them so little time to decide that was a joke, but took two years on these guys.
Yup, just the FBI honouring its founder - looking for monsters under beds and, when they don't find any, trying to create them. Helluva make-work project.
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Don't publish this too much further - the FBI is already embarrassed by/about the Clinton investigation.
Revealing this would make them laughingstocks of law enforcement for a decade to come.
I'd honestly doubt many man hours were spent on this. Probably just forgotten till someone noticed. They check the site see its fake and close it. The only reason we are hearing about this is because of the whole #SpiritCooking thing. Plus this author has just been submitting muckrock.com links for 2 years dozens and dozens. Not sure if human or bot to be honest.
The FBI called me up asking about some website I had visited, thinking that it was related to Columbine. It turned out, they were investigating a website related to the tabletop RPG "Teenagers from Outer Space," which apparently the Columbine kids played and wrote about in one of their journals.
In between gales of laughter, I told the agent that if he had any more leads on threats from role playing games that he should feel free to give me a call and I'd be happy to help out as best I could.
It wasn't so funny when they actually raided Steve Jackson Games when they were making a hacking-themed game. I wonder about the FBI - surely a portion of them are actually savvy about this sort of thing. Is it just some institutional bias against asking fellow agents who might be familiar with the subject at hand?
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If you (and I suspect, many of the people who gave you karma) had actually read the article, which contains excerpts from files of the investigation, you would know that it was not the FBI keeping tabs on anyone, it was a "threat assessment". From one of those files: "Writer could not locate via open sources (Internet, [etc]) any information to substantiate the existence of Rev. Green or the church." From a subsequent file dated 2 years (I think muckrock typoed the year) after the writer was assigned to it: "Writer went to godhatesgoths.com, the website produced by "Rev. Green"..."
Knowing about something before talking about it is sorta what common courtesy is. And before you ask, yes I do want people in the forums I visit to read articles before commenting on them. It's not hard to do it (or simply keep your mouth shut if you haven't) without making a fool of yourself. If you and people like you, and the FBI do a bit more of it perhaps stupid posts, irrelevant assumptions about what other people may or may not ask, rights and Sept 11, as well as wasteful investigations could be avoided.
If you (and I suspect, many of the people who gave you karma) had actually read the article, which contains excerpts from files of the investigation, you would know that it was not the FBI keeping tabs on anyone, it was a "threat assessment". From one of those files: "Writer could not locate via open sources (Internet, [etc]) any information to substantiate the existence of Rev. Green or the church." From a subsequent file dated [b]2 years[/b] (I think muckrock typoed the year) after the writer was assigned to it: "Writer went to godhatesgoths.com, the website produced by "Rev. Green"..."
Knowing about something before talking about it is sorta what common courtesy is. And before you ask, yes I do want people in the forums I visit to read the articles before commenting. It's not hard to do it (or simply keep your mouth shut if you haven't) without making a fool of yourself. If you and people like you, and the FBI do a bit more of it perhaps stupid posts, irrelevant associations about what other people may or may not ask, rights and Sept 11, as well as wasteful investigations could be avoided.
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A blatantly-obvious setup-and-pun joke gets a '-1' on Slashdot over some PC oversensitivity?
I can see why comedians like Seinfeld won't tour colleges anymore.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Fixed that title for ya.
Back in the late 80s or mid 90s, I forget exactly when, police and the FBI spent years assembling a massive chart of where, when, and how Satanists met, stole, and ate human babies. Guess what: that never happened either. And that whole thing was pre-Internet-as-we-know-it. They had to come up with that shit based on verbal rumor and wishful thinking.
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There's a reason the local police often have nicknames like the above for the FBI, and it isn't all jurisdictional jealousy...
They should investigate the Ordo Malleus, I hear they do racial cleansing and such. Really nasty stuff.
And this is a bad thing, why, exactly?
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Either they were real thorough or they're really slow.
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Harmless historical nuts
Who wear boiler plate on their butts
Who dress up in clothes from the twelfth century
To bash on each other with sticks and debris
And make up the world's largest private army
Harmless historical nuts
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You don't prove claims false, especially something posted without evidence. Assert without evidence, expect to be dismissed without evidence. Go on then, off you fuck.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
Comey clearly dislike some of the things Clinton did, but the mail server investigation did not turn up sufficient evidence to prosecute. Clinton had clearly been negligent with classified materials, but I found no examples of such negligence involving criminal prosecution.
As far as Trump goes, I believe his fraud trial starts later this month. This is being done properly, in that the case is not publicized before the election.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Sigh. The President directs the use of vast but limited resources, and this includes which laws to emphasize for investigation and prosecution. There's nothing criminal about it.
The President can negotiate all he or she wants. A treaty isn't the law of the land until the Senate vote.
The Iran negotiation was to get something out of a deteriorating diplomatic situation, and in my judgment is more likely to keep Iran from getting a nuke than continued US sanctions. It isn't treason. It could be a mistake, but not treason.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
I've never had problems with my HMO. I have to see my primary doctor for referrals or pay Tier 3 rates, but I can see him fast, frequently the next day, and I've never had a referral I though indicated turned down. I've been having some health issues, and not having to worry about insurance has been a real help. (I belong to Healthpartners in Minnesota.)
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