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Teenagers In Macedonia Launch Fake Pro-Trump Sites To Earn Money (buzzfeed.com)

"In Macedonia the economy is very weak and teenagers are not allowed to work, so we need to find creative ways to make some money," one 17-year-old told BuzzFeed News, which reports on a "strange hub" of over 140 political sites, all being run in the same small town in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. These sites have American-sounding domain names such as WorldPoliticus.com, TrumpVision365.com, USConservativeToday.com, DonaldTrumpNews.co, and USADailyPolitics.com. They almost all publish aggressively pro-Trump content aimed at conservatives and Trump supporters in the U.S... The young Macedonians who run these sites say they don't care about Donald Trump. They are responding to straightforward economic incentives... The fraction-of-a-penny-per-click of U.S. display advertising -- a declining market for American publishers -- goes a long way in Veles. Several teens and young men who run these sites told BuzzFeed News that they learned the best way to generate traffic is to get their politics stories to spread on Facebook -- and the best way to generate shares on Facebook is to publish sensationalist and often false content that caters to Trump supporters... Most of the posts on these sites are aggregated, or completely plagiarized, from fringe and right-wing sites in the U.S...
Earlier this year they experimented with fake sites supporting Bernie Sanders, "but nothing performed as well on Facebook as Trump content," according to the 16-year-old who operates BVANews.com. The largest Macedonian sites now have hundreds of thousands of followers on Facebook, and sources close to one site say it earns $5,000 per month, and has even earned $3,000 in a single day.

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  1. I could have told you that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fastest way to make a buck if you don't care about anything in the way of integrity, is to tell people what they want to hear.

    It's an almost guaranteed way to enrich yourself, and if there are no consequences, some people will do it.

    And let's face it, the Pro-Trump crowd wants to hear what they've been told, and hear it more, and more, and nothing else.

    That is how he got their votes. No surprise somebody else is skimming off the chum.

    1. Re:I could have told you that. by JimMcc · · Score: 5, Informative

      “It may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS. The money’s rolling in and this is fun.” - CBS CEO Les Moonves
      http://www.newsweek.com/blame-...

    2. Re:I could have told you that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh please. Don't even try to make that false equivalency.
      Hillary's lies are typical politician fudging of the truth. Trump's lies are so stratospheric that we've all become numb to it. He gets away with such a constant avalanche of falsehoods because everybody who cares about truth has given up keeping track.

    3. Re:I could have told you that. by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      That editorial says news orgs should shape up and focus on accuracy over profit by focusing on Trump's deeds rather than just his entertaining antics, but acknowledges the Internet is eating their lunch. They would shrink more, leaving the antics-oriented orgs and sites to take away their market share. They are stuck between a rock and a hard-place.

      You can't ask an organization to kill itself for the sake of the greater good. It may be a nice thing to do, but not a realistic expectation.

    4. Re:I could have told you that. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      I find it amusing to read that "The young Macedonians who run these sites say they don't care about Donald Trump" because the whole thing feels very Trump-ish/right-wing/laissez-faire to me. Unregulated free market decides to buy (and therefore provide) Trump news instead of Bernie news? Check! They don't care what they're doing as long as it yields the biggest buck? Check! Fake low-quality news pulls money out of the pockets of hapless poor suckers? Check! No repercussions for that? Check!

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    5. Re:I could have told you that. by Pulzar · · Score: 2

      That's not power, that's simply slavery. At that point, you're the servant of those with the money

      While I get your point about having control over those with money, calling it slavery is a bit far fetched. It's just good ol' employment -- someone pays you, and you do what they say.

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  2. Nothing spreads as well as anger by guises · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's a rule that anger is the most effective way to spread a meme - people are more likely to talk about something which makes them mad than something which makes them happy.

    1. Re:Nothing spreads as well as anger by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Interesting
  3. Thank you. by freeze128 · · Score: 2

    This is news that we could have used A YEAR AGO! What's the point in revealing it just days before the election?

    1. Re:Thank you. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful

      DAMN that is a horrifying indictment of the Hillary campaign. She's been exposed repeatedly as a corrupt pol, her top aide Huma has turned against her to save her own skin from jail, and Wikileaks, hero of the Left, has been ceaselessly attacking her for well over a year. Who could possibly vote for her at this point?

      Trump is like an emetic for the American republic. He's the best thing that could happen. Just think of all the positive effects. Under Hillary, the press will remain a government lapdog, submitting their stories for vetting before publication. Under Trump, investigative journalism will wake form its odd 8 year slumber that started under Obama. Under Hillary, the Constitution will be further shredded by her Supreme Court appointees until it means nothing. Under Trump, the Left will bizarrely find meaning in this document drafted by whites and use it to bash the government by whatever means necessary. We really don't realize just how destructive it is to our Republic for the press to be working hand in glove with the government like it has been for the past 8 years. It's high time they were in opposition again.

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    2. Re:Thank you. by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      DAMN that is a horrifying indictment of the Hillary campaign. She's been exposed repeatedly as a corrupt pol, her top aide Huma has turned against her to save her own skin from jail, and Wikileaks, hero of the Left, has been ceaselessly attacking her for well over a year. Who could possibly vote for her at this point?

      Please provide evidence that Huma Abedin has, in any way, "turned" on Clinton. The latest news is that she was supporting Clinton at a private fundraiser in DC the other day. Doesn't sound like someone who has "turned" on her best friend. Sounds like another conspiracy theory.

      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hu...

      I would suspect that she would be assisting the FBI in the investigation of her husband. But there has been NO evidence or even leaks from the FBI that they have found anything new in their email investigation. In fact, it's quite likely that anything they find is just duplicates of what they already have.

      Under Hillary, the Constitution will be further shredded by her Supreme Court appointees until it means nothing. Under Trump, the Left will bizarrely find meaning in this document drafted by whites and use it to bash the government by whatever means necessary. We really don't realize just how destructive it is to our Republic for the press to be working hand in glove with the government like it has been for the past 8 years. It's high time they were in opposition again.

      And threatening to lock up your opposition and appoint a "special prosecutor" isn't trampling all over the constitution and the separation of powers between the legislative, executive, and judicial branches?

  4. Re:Just stop by hey! · · Score: 2

    Well, and The Guardian, which broke the Snowden leak story.

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  5. Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The base of Trump support is poorly educated white men.

    They believe lots of easily disproven lies.

    It's hardly surprising that they would click on more false clickbait.

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    1. Re:Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Butt-hut Trump supporters with mod points here?

      My posting was on-topic. I can find citations to show the proof about who Trump's support comes from.

      I'll probably get modded down for this also, but it won't change the facts.

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    2. Re:Hardly surprising by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are a lot of Trump supporters with mod points on Slashdot. I mean, a lot.

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    3. Re:Hardly surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe your view from inside the fishbowl.

      But from the outside... between the two the anti-trump people are way more stupid. and violent. and abusive. and will be the first to insult while claming victim status for social credit.

      I hope he wins just to piss those people off. They seem to deserve it.

    4. Re:Hardly surprising by TimothyHollins · · Score: 2

      What the hell is a butt-hut? I'm afraid of what it might be yet at the same time morbidly intrigued.

    5. Re:Hardly surprising by Powercntrl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Butt-hut Trump supporters with mod points here?

      You'd assume Trump's rejection of science and renewable energy would discourage most of /.'s readership from fawning all over him. But the fear of becoming a laid-off IT worker is strong with this crowd (never mind Trump has used H-1B workers in his own businesses and has no problem stiffing contractors). Then you've got the basement-dwellers who want to watch the world burn, because their parents and suburban upbringing have sheltered them from any form of real strife. These are usually the people who shout "Bring on the zombie apocalypse!", but would shit their pants if their local Walmart was closed for more than a day.

      I'm sure there's also a few non-US residents who just feel we deserve Trump. Hopefully he doesn't decide to nuke your country because he had a bad day on Twitter.

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    6. Re:Hardly surprising by markdavis · · Score: 2

      Yep, which clearly invalidates the GP's trolling.

    7. Re:Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 2

      But the fear of becoming a laid-off IT worker is strong with this crowd (never mind Trump has used H-1B workers in his own businesses and has no problem stiffing contractors).

      Yes, it's not as if Trump married someone who was not only an H1-B worker, but actually worked illegally before she had her H1-B.

      Oh, wait, he did. Yeah, he is surely going to crack down on H1-Bs.

      That, plus he is still stiffing contractors: did anyone see that he is stiffing a polling company now?

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    8. Re:Hardly surprising by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your statement was probably modded down for being misleading. I too can show where Trump's support comes from:

      http://www.theatlantic.com/pol...

      voters who agreed with the statement “people like me don't have any say about what the government does” were 86.5 percent more likely to prefer Trump. This feeling of powerlessness and voicelessness was a much better predictor of Trump support than age, race, college attainment, income, attitudes towards Muslims, illegal immigrants, or Hispanic identity.

      Trump's support comes from people who feel they are disenfranchised. It should be no surprise that poorly educated white men feel disenfranchised; poor education has always reduced one's influence, and currently being white and male each mean you are openly discriminated against.

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  6. Re:It's FYROM by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would imagine that they are as genetically "Macedonian" as ancient Macedonians (who were viewed as a sort non-Greek fringe Hellenic group before they began gaining significant power under Alexander's ancestors). Language isn't bound by genetic barriers, as is evidenced by the fact that most of the English are still essentially "Celtic" in molecular terms, despite speaking a West Germanic language with heavy admixtures of Norman French.

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  7. Re:List of domains? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 3, Informative

    So an AC posted above 36 Domains: https://politics.slashdot.org/...

    365lifetimenews.co.uk, allforusa.com, americafans.com, angryamericanpatriots.com, berniemyhero.com, bigbluedimension.com, bigbluevision.com, bigbluevision.org, bluevisionnews.com, bvanews.com, christiantimesnewspaper.com, conservativestate.com, daily-politics.com, hardnfasttruth.com, globalnews4u.com, helping-mothers.com, magseriesusa.com, newscenterusa.com, openmedianews.com, press24.us, politicsbreaking.com, politicsintheusa.com, politicsinusa.com, spinzon.com, theamericanrevenant.com, usconservativetoday.com, usadailyinfo.com, usafreshnews.us, usalibertynews.com, usanewsflash.com, usanewslive365.com, usapoliticsnow.com, usapoliticstoday.com, usapowernews.com, usatodaypolitics.com, worldpoliticus.com

    Google searching for at least these domains only brings up this post and a reddit post with the same 36 domains: https://www.reddit.com/r/polit...

    Buzzfeed said "Over the past year, the Macedonian town of Veles (population 45,000) has experienced a digital gold rush as locals launched at least 140 US politics websites" and "BuzzFeed News also identified another 40 US politics domains registered by people in Veles that are no longer active"

    But the list seems nowhere to be found.

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  8. Re:It's FYROM by hey! · · Score: 2

    They probably are descended in part from the ancient Macedonians. As is practically everyone else in Europe.

    It's silly to stake a genetic claim to the heritage of a people from 2300 years ago -- if you are European. Europe had a little thing called the Migration Age which shuffled the entire continent's genetic deck. That's why you see a haplotype that's believed to have originated around the Volga River in a broad swath from the Caucuses through Greece, Southern Italy and Spain, with pockets in all kinds of odd places like Lapland. You find "Norse" DNA in the Near East too -- thanks to the crusades.

    All those 19th Century eugenic theories were based on philological reconstructions; they assumed that common language and stories meant common ancestry; ethnicity turns out to have very little to do with genetics. It's a stupid argument anyway; by that standard I'm English, even though my ancestors were from China. Or contrariwise, because my ancestors were Chinese I somehow "own" Shakespeare less than some British soccer hooligan who flunked his O levels.

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  9. Re:It's FYROM by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    The country's names is FYROM, Macedonia.

    Do they have a department of redundancy department like the United Kingdom of the UK does?

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  10. And why is it fake? by allo · · Score: 2

    Most of the web works this way nowadays. Just have a look at sites like buzzfeed. 20 Facts about fake sites you didn't know, no. 13 is a fake itself!
    There is no interest in the content, there is interest in users clicking ads. That's why the basically fuck with users, deploy malw^W anti-adblock scripts, spy on the user and so on instead of just providing good content.

  11. Nah, #spiritcooking started with /r/The_Donald by Xenographic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone ever heard of these sites before? The real news is all on /r/wikileaks.

    Sounds like they make clickbait sites they want people to share and make money off the ad revenue. There's no actual indication that people take these any more seriously than the other clickbait, so it doesn't surprise me that Buzzfeed doesn't like competition.

    People used to be able to go to Reddit, but /r/politics now bans anyone who mentions their paid "Correct The Record" campaigns, so .... yeah.