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Teenagers In Macedonia Launch Fake Pro-Trump Sites To Earn Money (buzzfeed.com)

"In Macedonia the economy is very weak and teenagers are not allowed to work, so we need to find creative ways to make some money," one 17-year-old told BuzzFeed News, which reports on a "strange hub" of over 140 political sites, all being run in the same small town in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. These sites have American-sounding domain names such as WorldPoliticus.com, TrumpVision365.com, USConservativeToday.com, DonaldTrumpNews.co, and USADailyPolitics.com. They almost all publish aggressively pro-Trump content aimed at conservatives and Trump supporters in the U.S... The young Macedonians who run these sites say they don't care about Donald Trump. They are responding to straightforward economic incentives... The fraction-of-a-penny-per-click of U.S. display advertising -- a declining market for American publishers -- goes a long way in Veles. Several teens and young men who run these sites told BuzzFeed News that they learned the best way to generate traffic is to get their politics stories to spread on Facebook -- and the best way to generate shares on Facebook is to publish sensationalist and often false content that caters to Trump supporters... Most of the posts on these sites are aggregated, or completely plagiarized, from fringe and right-wing sites in the U.S...
Earlier this year they experimented with fake sites supporting Bernie Sanders, "but nothing performed as well on Facebook as Trump content," according to the 16-year-old who operates BVANews.com. The largest Macedonian sites now have hundreds of thousands of followers on Facebook, and sources close to one site say it earns $5,000 per month, and has even earned $3,000 in a single day.

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  1. Just stop by rebelwarlock · · Score: 1, Informative

    If it's from buzzfeed, it's trash. I'm very comfortable using an absolute here, because even if it's verifiable and posted on other sites, buzzfeed will find a way to fuck it all up.

    1. Re:Just stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So you're trying to tell me that Buzzfeed is lying and all of these websites are totally legit source for factual American political news?

      365lifetimenews.co.uk, allforusa.com, americafans.com, angryamericanpatriots.com, berniemyhero.com, bigbluedimension.com, bigbluevision.com, bigbluevision.org, bluevisionnews.com, bvanews.com, christiantimesnewspaper.com, conservativestate.com, daily-politics.com, hardnfasttruth.com, globalnews4u.com, helping-mothers.com, magseriesusa.com, newscenterusa.com, openmedianews.com, press24.us, politicsbreaking.com, politicsintheusa.com, politicsinusa.com, spinzon.com, theamericanrevenant.com, usconservativetoday.com, usadailyinfo.com, usafreshnews.us, usalibertynews.com, usanewsflash.com, usanewslive365.com, usapoliticsnow.com, usapoliticstoday.com, usapowernews.com, usatodaypolitics.com, worldpoliticus.com

      These and more are being spammed all over Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit, trying to get clickbait money for someone.

    2. Re:Just stop by hey! · · Score: 2

      Well, and The Guardian, which broke the Snowden leak story.

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    3. Re:Just stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I've actually run into sites from Veles, Macedonia already, from people posting links to their bullshit on reddit. So stfu.

  2. I could have told you that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fastest way to make a buck if you don't care about anything in the way of integrity, is to tell people what they want to hear.

    It's an almost guaranteed way to enrich yourself, and if there are no consequences, some people will do it.

    And let's face it, the Pro-Trump crowd wants to hear what they've been told, and hear it more, and more, and nothing else.

    That is how he got their votes. No surprise somebody else is skimming off the chum.

    1. Re:I could have told you that. by JimMcc · · Score: 5, Informative

      “It may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS. The money’s rolling in and this is fun.” - CBS CEO Les Moonves
      http://www.newsweek.com/blame-...

    2. Re:I could have told you that. by FudRucker · · Score: 1

      RE:"The fastest way to make a buck if you don't care about anything in the way of integrity, is to tell people what they want to hear."

      The fastest way to get elected president of the USA if you don't care about anything in the way of integrity, is to tell people what they want to hear.[in your campain speeches]

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    3. Re:I could have told you that. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that might get you the Presidency, but REAL power comes from selling your access inside the Government for big money. Then you can use that money AND the knowledge of the sales to pull the strings of whomever occupies the Oval Office.

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    4. Re:I could have told you that. by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

      The fastest way to get elected president of the USA if you don't care about anything in the way of integrity, is to tell people what they want to hear.[in your campain speeches]

      Are you talking about Trump or Hillary — or both ?

    5. Re:I could have told you that. by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      That's not power, that's simply slavery. At that point, you're the servant of those with the money.

      Real power comes from being able to impose some degree of control even on those with money.

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    6. Re:I could have told you that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh please. Don't even try to make that false equivalency.
      Hillary's lies are typical politician fudging of the truth. Trump's lies are so stratospheric that we've all become numb to it. He gets away with such a constant avalanche of falsehoods because everybody who cares about truth has given up keeping track.

    7. Re:I could have told you that. by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      That editorial says news orgs should shape up and focus on accuracy over profit by focusing on Trump's deeds rather than just his entertaining antics, but acknowledges the Internet is eating their lunch. They would shrink more, leaving the antics-oriented orgs and sites to take away their market share. They are stuck between a rock and a hard-place.

      You can't ask an organization to kill itself for the sake of the greater good. It may be a nice thing to do, but not a realistic expectation.

    8. Re:I could have told you that. by Altrag · · Score: 1

      Trump obviously. Hilary does as much as she can to not talk about the things people want to hear -- because most of what we want to hear about her is details of her numerous scandals.

      Trump lies to your face. Hilary schemes behind your back. Hard to say which is worse. Great time for US politics.

    9. Re:I could have told you that. by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      If the Republicans had been able to field a more moderate candidate they would have almost been guaranteed a win.

      They got Hillary. She's a moderate republican... They needed Trump to scare people into voting for her and draw attention away from any alternatives. As long as power is shared exclusively between republicans and democrats, everybody's happy.

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    10. Re:I could have told you that. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      I find it amusing to read that "The young Macedonians who run these sites say they don't care about Donald Trump" because the whole thing feels very Trump-ish/right-wing/laissez-faire to me. Unregulated free market decides to buy (and therefore provide) Trump news instead of Bernie news? Check! They don't care what they're doing as long as it yields the biggest buck? Check! Fake low-quality news pulls money out of the pockets of hapless poor suckers? Check! No repercussions for that? Check!

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    11. Re:I could have told you that. by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      Oh please. Don't even try to make that false equivalency.
      Hillary's lies are typical politician fudging of the truth. Trump's lies are so stratospheric that

      I don't know a single person who would prefer to be lied to in a subtle way than in an obvious way. From a mathematical perspective, sure, a bigger lie is more false than a small lie. From a trustworthiness perspective, an obvious lie is not actually a lie at all. I do not know a single person who, when Trump fails to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, would say "you tricked me".

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    12. Re:I could have told you that. by Pulzar · · Score: 2

      That's not power, that's simply slavery. At that point, you're the servant of those with the money

      While I get your point about having control over those with money, calling it slavery is a bit far fetched. It's just good ol' employment -- someone pays you, and you do what they say.

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  3. Nothing spreads as well as anger by guises · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's a rule that anger is the most effective way to spread a meme - people are more likely to talk about something which makes them mad than something which makes them happy.

    1. Re:Nothing spreads as well as anger by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Interesting
  4. Thank you. by freeze128 · · Score: 2

    This is news that we could have used A YEAR AGO! What's the point in revealing it just days before the election?

    1. Re:Thank you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You gotta be joking. Since the first day of his campaign there has been a non-stop deluge of stories about all the ways its a con. This story wouldn't have made a difference no matter when it was published. That's the thing about cons - at some level the victims want to be conned. They simply ignore any contrary evidence no matter how strong, and focus on the any story that reinforces their beliefs no matter how far-fetched.

    2. Re: Thank you. by bestweasel · · Score: 1

      Well the Guardian story linked in the article is from August.

    3. Re:Thank you. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful

      DAMN that is a horrifying indictment of the Hillary campaign. She's been exposed repeatedly as a corrupt pol, her top aide Huma has turned against her to save her own skin from jail, and Wikileaks, hero of the Left, has been ceaselessly attacking her for well over a year. Who could possibly vote for her at this point?

      Trump is like an emetic for the American republic. He's the best thing that could happen. Just think of all the positive effects. Under Hillary, the press will remain a government lapdog, submitting their stories for vetting before publication. Under Trump, investigative journalism will wake form its odd 8 year slumber that started under Obama. Under Hillary, the Constitution will be further shredded by her Supreme Court appointees until it means nothing. Under Trump, the Left will bizarrely find meaning in this document drafted by whites and use it to bash the government by whatever means necessary. We really don't realize just how destructive it is to our Republic for the press to be working hand in glove with the government like it has been for the past 8 years. It's high time they were in opposition again.

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    4. Re:Thank you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      DAMN that is a horrifying indictment of the Hillary campaign. She's been exposed repeatedly as a corrupt pol, her top aide Huma has turned against her to save her own skin from jail, and Wikileaks,

      Thanks for demonstrating my point. You so desperately want to believe that she's corrupt that you bought into the con about Abedin "turning against her." You are literally the exact kind of sucker I was talking about. Furthermore because you are so desperate to find comfort in lies this reply will be like water off a duck's back to you. At least you will be a cautionary tale for some readers.

    5. Re:Thank you. by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      DAMN that is a horrifying indictment of the Hillary campaign. She's been exposed repeatedly as a corrupt pol, her top aide Huma has turned against her to save her own skin from jail, and Wikileaks, hero of the Left, has been ceaselessly attacking her for well over a year. Who could possibly vote for her at this point?

      Please provide evidence that Huma Abedin has, in any way, "turned" on Clinton. The latest news is that she was supporting Clinton at a private fundraiser in DC the other day. Doesn't sound like someone who has "turned" on her best friend. Sounds like another conspiracy theory.

      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hu...

      I would suspect that she would be assisting the FBI in the investigation of her husband. But there has been NO evidence or even leaks from the FBI that they have found anything new in their email investigation. In fact, it's quite likely that anything they find is just duplicates of what they already have.

      Under Hillary, the Constitution will be further shredded by her Supreme Court appointees until it means nothing. Under Trump, the Left will bizarrely find meaning in this document drafted by whites and use it to bash the government by whatever means necessary. We really don't realize just how destructive it is to our Republic for the press to be working hand in glove with the government like it has been for the past 8 years. It's high time they were in opposition again.

      And threatening to lock up your opposition and appoint a "special prosecutor" isn't trampling all over the constitution and the separation of powers between the legislative, executive, and judicial branches?

    6. Re:Thank you. by quax · · Score: 1

      It's hard to decide what's the least informed tidbit in your comment. But if I had to chose, it would be the laughable contention that the corporate owned media would change its MO in the least under a Trump administration.

      He already announced that he'd go after them by strengthening libel and defamation laws. So if anything they'd be streamlined even further.

    7. Re:Thank you. by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      no, ya dingus, the news that you can make $5000 a day reposting trump memes on facebook.

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    8. Re:Thank you. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I would have gone for his strange claim that the constitution was 'drafted by whites.' It's true, the writers of the constitution were all white, but what significance does that fact have on the arguments presented?

    9. Re: Thank you. by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Nice to see you quoting their material

    10. Re:Thank you. by quax · · Score: 1

      Pretty sad, isn't it?

      If anything can make me uncomfortable in my (white) skin it's this insidious racism of these Trumpkins.

    11. Re:Thank you. by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      And threatening to lock up your opposition and appoint a "special prosecutor" isn't trampling all over the constitution and the separation of powers between the legislative, executive, and judicial branches?

      Yes, it is, but I think the argument put forth is that Clinton's trampling will be subtle efforts that will go unobserved and result in a death of a thousand cuts, while Trump's trampling will be grand, obviously wrong, attempts that both sides will come together to stop.

    12. Re:Thank you. by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      Trump is like an emetic for the American republic.

      I think you 're confusing an emetic with what an emetic causes.

    13. Re:Thank you. by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      AAAaannndd now he's president.

  5. "Publish sensationalist and often false content" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Said Buzzfeed
    What was that thing about pot and kettle?

  6. Fake? They are not fake! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Teenagers in Macedonia Launch Fake Pro-Trump Sites

    Why are they named fake? Do they pretend, maybe, being a website but, in reality, don't work? Much like a wooden fake toy airplane, maybe?

    Those sites look like every common news outlet these days.

    Better headline:

    Pro-Trump sites generate income for their creators, worldwide.

    There you are.

    1. Re: Fake? They are not fake! by tuxgeek · · Score: 1

      Wrong! Not even real news. I went to one of the sites and found National Enquirer grade garbage.
      Sensational clickbait bullshit aimed at trump trolls. Nothing of value, just entertainment for stupid people with nothing better to do.

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  7. Trump supporters less able to identify a fake site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If this worked best on Trump supporters, is it because they're the only group who is incapable deciphering a fake news site from a real one?

  8. Re:Trump supporters less able to identify a fake s by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 1, Troll

    Consider the audience. These are the people who scream that Snopes is "rigged," and whose primary source for news (Breitbart) is published by someone on their candidate's payroll, for fuck's sake. There's not too terribly much objectivity or critical thinking taking place in that world.

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  9. Re:It's FYROM by hey! · · Score: 1

    The dispute is over cultural appropriation of Alexander the Great; however given the phenomenon of pedigree collapse nobody really has much of a claim to a culture that existed 2300 years ago unless they practiced very strict endogamy (e.g. the Jews) over all that time. It's a bit like the Italians going after Cincinnati for appropriating Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.

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  10. List of domains? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

    Is there a list of these domains that I am not seeing? I'll happily just block all of them.

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    1. Re:List of domains? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 3, Informative

      So an AC posted above 36 Domains: https://politics.slashdot.org/...

      365lifetimenews.co.uk, allforusa.com, americafans.com, angryamericanpatriots.com, berniemyhero.com, bigbluedimension.com, bigbluevision.com, bigbluevision.org, bluevisionnews.com, bvanews.com, christiantimesnewspaper.com, conservativestate.com, daily-politics.com, hardnfasttruth.com, globalnews4u.com, helping-mothers.com, magseriesusa.com, newscenterusa.com, openmedianews.com, press24.us, politicsbreaking.com, politicsintheusa.com, politicsinusa.com, spinzon.com, theamericanrevenant.com, usconservativetoday.com, usadailyinfo.com, usafreshnews.us, usalibertynews.com, usanewsflash.com, usanewslive365.com, usapoliticsnow.com, usapoliticstoday.com, usapowernews.com, usatodaypolitics.com, worldpoliticus.com

      Google searching for at least these domains only brings up this post and a reddit post with the same 36 domains: https://www.reddit.com/r/polit...

      Buzzfeed said "Over the past year, the Macedonian town of Veles (population 45,000) has experienced a digital gold rush as locals launched at least 140 US politics websites" and "BuzzFeed News also identified another 40 US politics domains registered by people in Veles that are no longer active"

      But the list seems nowhere to be found.

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    2. Re:List of domains? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      "theamericanrevenant.com"

      I saw a comment posted elsewhere just this morning linking to that site. I can't even remember what the article was about though, and the comment has been moderated-out. Something about the government paying black-supremacist militias.

  11. Well by rossdee · · Score: 1

    If the Macedonians want Trump as their leader, they can have him.

    I don't think he will be leading their army into battle like Alexander, in spite of his rhetoric.

  12. Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The base of Trump support is poorly educated white men.

    They believe lots of easily disproven lies.

    It's hardly surprising that they would click on more false clickbait.

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    1. Re:Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Butt-hut Trump supporters with mod points here?

      My posting was on-topic. I can find citations to show the proof about who Trump's support comes from.

      I'll probably get modded down for this also, but it won't change the facts.

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    2. Re:Hardly surprising by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are a lot of Trump supporters with mod points on Slashdot. I mean, a lot.

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    3. Re:Hardly surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe your view from inside the fishbowl.

      But from the outside... between the two the anti-trump people are way more stupid. and violent. and abusive. and will be the first to insult while claming victim status for social credit.

      I hope he wins just to piss those people off. They seem to deserve it.

    4. Re:Hardly surprising by TimothyHollins · · Score: 2

      What the hell is a butt-hut? I'm afraid of what it might be yet at the same time morbidly intrigued.

    5. Re:Hardly surprising by Powercntrl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Butt-hut Trump supporters with mod points here?

      You'd assume Trump's rejection of science and renewable energy would discourage most of /.'s readership from fawning all over him. But the fear of becoming a laid-off IT worker is strong with this crowd (never mind Trump has used H-1B workers in his own businesses and has no problem stiffing contractors). Then you've got the basement-dwellers who want to watch the world burn, because their parents and suburban upbringing have sheltered them from any form of real strife. These are usually the people who shout "Bring on the zombie apocalypse!", but would shit their pants if their local Walmart was closed for more than a day.

      I'm sure there's also a few non-US residents who just feel we deserve Trump. Hopefully he doesn't decide to nuke your country because he had a bad day on Twitter.

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    6. Re:Hardly surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apparently there are a lot of poorly educated people all around, as Hillary's supporters can attest to believing a lot of easily disproven lies, too. I'm not sure where you get off generalizing "white men" in there, though.

    7. Re:Hardly surprising by markdavis · · Score: 2

      Yep, which clearly invalidates the GP's trolling.

    8. Re:Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 2

      But the fear of becoming a laid-off IT worker is strong with this crowd (never mind Trump has used H-1B workers in his own businesses and has no problem stiffing contractors).

      Yes, it's not as if Trump married someone who was not only an H1-B worker, but actually worked illegally before she had her H1-B.

      Oh, wait, he did. Yeah, he is surely going to crack down on H1-Bs.

      That, plus he is still stiffing contractors: did anyone see that he is stiffing a polling company now?

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    9. Re:Hardly surprising by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Yes, it does, to the extent that a claim that the entire base is ill-educated white men is false. But, as has been countless times over the years, the Salem Hypothesis, with a bit of a proviso that it extends to other technical fields, shows how certain types of well educated people can support someone like Trump.

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    10. Re:Hardly surprising by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your statement was probably modded down for being misleading. I too can show where Trump's support comes from:

      http://www.theatlantic.com/pol...

      voters who agreed with the statement “people like me don't have any say about what the government does” were 86.5 percent more likely to prefer Trump. This feeling of powerlessness and voicelessness was a much better predictor of Trump support than age, race, college attainment, income, attitudes towards Muslims, illegal immigrants, or Hispanic identity.

      Trump's support comes from people who feel they are disenfranchised. It should be no surprise that poorly educated white men feel disenfranchised; poor education has always reduced one's influence, and currently being white and male each mean you are openly discriminated against.

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    11. Re:Hardly surprising by tuxgeek · · Score: 1

      Yep, you're pretty much spot on here, trump and the dolts that follow him.

      I recall every election period the past few decades with that lunatic and his wacky trademark orange orangutan hair doo, off in deep right field stamping his feet and ranting like Yosemite Sam about the lost gold of lost city of Atlantis, alien abductions, bigfoot, and whatever other crazy shit he had going on in his head at the time, just to get him into any spotlight available.

      Today, that worthless cocksucker may very well become emperor of america. How fucked up is that? How could sane people let this become possible? We are SO fucked if that fraud gets elected.

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    12. Re:Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      Your reading comprehension level is not as good as you think it is and you did not check the source.

      According to the article you cited, that "feeling of powerlessness" is what distinguishes his supporters from supporters of other Republican candidates.

      From the original source: 'Among people likely to vote in the Republican primary, people are 86.5 percent more likely to prefer Donald Trump as the first-choice nominee relative to all the others if they "somewhat" or "strongly agree" that "people like me don't have any say about what the government does." '

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    13. Re:Hardly surprising by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      According to the article you cited, that "feeling of powerlessness" is what distinguishes his supporters from supporters of other Republican candidates.

      IE, that is the demographics of Trump supporters, rather than the votes in the general election many of which will be "hold your nose and vote Republican", and many of which voted against Trump.

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    14. Re:Hardly surprising by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      Which does not contradict my statement that the core of Trump support comes from poorly-educated white men.

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    15. Re:Hardly surprising by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      Yes, now that Trump won the primary, the core of his support is Republicans.

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    16. Re:Hardly surprising by strikethree · · Score: 1

      My posting was on-topic. I can find citations to show the proof about who Trump's support comes from.

      I did not mod you up or down, and now I can't do either since I have posted...

      I would have modded this comment up if it had actually contained the citations that you and the moderators are fighting about. Since you did not, I thought I would leave this little message for you so you could understand how non-partisan modding works for many people.

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  13. Re:Translation: by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    I think you just nailed their campaign slogan. Trump commits to ending all uncomfortable truths!

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  14. Arent' they all fake? by nospam007 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Affer all, the guy they are faking to support is abig orange, pussygrabbing fake.

  15. Re:It's FYROM by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would imagine that they are as genetically "Macedonian" as ancient Macedonians (who were viewed as a sort non-Greek fringe Hellenic group before they began gaining significant power under Alexander's ancestors). Language isn't bound by genetic barriers, as is evidenced by the fact that most of the English are still essentially "Celtic" in molecular terms, despite speaking a West Germanic language with heavy admixtures of Norman French.

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  16. Re:Trump supporters less able to identify a fake s by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    Maybe, but I recall it was Ben Carson who had a bit of trouble separating The Onion from reality.

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  17. Re:Trump supporters less able to identify a fake s by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Informative

    As opposed to the pro-Hillary mainstream media who aren't even getting paid for their work? How can you possibly say objective when the entire MSM is united under Hillary? They submit their stories for vetting before publication, for fuck's sake! It's like a banana republic or China!!

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  18. Re:It's FYROM by hey! · · Score: 2

    They probably are descended in part from the ancient Macedonians. As is practically everyone else in Europe.

    It's silly to stake a genetic claim to the heritage of a people from 2300 years ago -- if you are European. Europe had a little thing called the Migration Age which shuffled the entire continent's genetic deck. That's why you see a haplotype that's believed to have originated around the Volga River in a broad swath from the Caucuses through Greece, Southern Italy and Spain, with pockets in all kinds of odd places like Lapland. You find "Norse" DNA in the Near East too -- thanks to the crusades.

    All those 19th Century eugenic theories were based on philological reconstructions; they assumed that common language and stories meant common ancestry; ethnicity turns out to have very little to do with genetics. It's a stupid argument anyway; by that standard I'm English, even though my ancestors were from China. Or contrariwise, because my ancestors were Chinese I somehow "own" Shakespeare less than some British soccer hooligan who flunked his O levels.

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  19. Re:no brain at all by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

    No, the point is, there is nothing legitimate about these websites, so there is absolutely no reason to allow anything on my network to connect to them at anytime, whether accidental or otherwise

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  20. Re:It's FYROM by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    The country's names is FYROM, Macedonia.

    Do they have a department of redundancy department like the United Kingdom of the UK does?

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  21. And why is it fake? by allo · · Score: 2

    Most of the web works this way nowadays. Just have a look at sites like buzzfeed. 20 Facts about fake sites you didn't know, no. 13 is a fake itself!
    There is no interest in the content, there is interest in users clicking ads. That's why the basically fuck with users, deploy malw^W anti-adblock scripts, spy on the user and so on instead of just providing good content.

    1. Re:And why is it fake? by allo · · Score: 1

      And why is a website fake, just because it uses "content generation" to attract people? You're mislead, if you think modern websites care about their users and that they get the best content. They care about their advertisers and that they get the best users. A social network isn't interested in getting you networked, it's interested in serving you ads. Some news sites declared in court, that news are their vehicle to get users to see ads.
      There are very little idealist sites, which have a mission. Most just want money. And then it's the same if macedonian or american people host a website with pro trump content. Both just want money by having a website for a popular topic.

  22. Re:It's FYROM by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

    modern greek have nothing to do with the old greek - they are basically descendants of slavs and turks. they don't even speak proper greek nowadays.

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  23. Nah, #spiritcooking started with /r/The_Donald by Xenographic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone ever heard of these sites before? The real news is all on /r/wikileaks.

    Sounds like they make clickbait sites they want people to share and make money off the ad revenue. There's no actual indication that people take these any more seriously than the other clickbait, so it doesn't surprise me that Buzzfeed doesn't like competition.

    People used to be able to go to Reddit, but /r/politics now bans anyone who mentions their paid "Correct The Record" campaigns, so .... yeah.

    1. Re:Nah, #spiritcooking started with /r/The_Donald by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't be surprised if most of the hits on these sites come from people who hate Trump. People tend to put a lot of interest in things they hate, sometimes obsessing over them, and likewise, most of what I hear about Trump comes from those who hate him -- I know many Trump supporters, but I rarely hear them talk about him. I tend to get the same thing from Fox News. I.e. I never hear anything about Fox News except from people who post on the internet about how much they hate Fox News (often in response to an opinion they don't like "durr...you must be a fox news watcher".)

  24. This only proves by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Trump fans are gullible and stupid. Bernie supporters not so much.

    Sad and pathetic

    1. Re:This only proves by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Trump fans are gullible and stupid. Bernie supporters not so much.

      Sad and pathetic

      Note: Trolling for Bernie supporters also worked for them, just not as well as trolling for Trump supporters.

  25. Re:Haters use the word FAKE by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

    Let me quote from the front page story of one of those sites:

    "Flight logs revealed that, on at least 26 separate occasions, Bill Clinton accompanied sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on his Boeing 747, which Epstein had nicknamed the “Lolita Express.” He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 for him and his fellow passengers on their way to “Orgy Island,” a 72-acre island called Little St. James.The plane “was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls” according to Fox News. There were eleven separate occasions where Bill Clinton was reported to have boarded Epstein’s plane, but flight logs show the number is more than double that; 26 separate occasions between 2001 and 2003."

    There is no link to the Fox News story, or other source.

    This does not sound like a very reputable news source.

  26. Economics. by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    In Macedonia the economy is very weak and teenagers are not allowed to work.

    Effect, meet cause.

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  27. Re:Haters use the word FAKE by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    You need other sources? Just use Google. It is well known that both Bill and even Hillary had many trips on the Lolita Express.

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  28. Re:Trump supporters less able to identify a fake s by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    Depending on the cycle one side or the other will be the most outraged. They're monetizing outrage and this cycle it happens to be Trumps turn. Eight years ago I seem to remember there was plenty of anti-bush outrage to be mined. It probably helps that Trump's approach is to play on the outrage, but it seems there is a never ending supply to tap into from both ends of the spectrum.

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  29. Re:Trump supporters less able to identify a fake s by tuxgeek · · Score: 1

    I want to know how such a retarded fucking post such as yours gets modded informative? Is there someone out there dumber than you with mod points?
    Your post is nothing but the same stupid ignorant shit spewed by fox news opinionists et al.

    There is NO liberal media and NO "pro-Hillary mainstream media" you ignorant fucktard! There is a somewhat "mainstream" news media system that strives to be as informative as they can and still manage ratings, and then you have the real "fake" news propaganda outlets such as Fox News Corp that spin and twist, edit and add, delete and change current events into their own version of news they then present mixed with carefully crafted opinion by professional dicklickers like Bill OReally? and Spin Hannity.

    If you are a marker of just how ill informed and ignorant the average american is, God help us all. We are all SO fucked.

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  30. Re:Trump supporters less able to identify a fake s by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    You don't see the bias because you agree with it. It definitely exists. The entire MSM is on board with Hillary.

    Maybe it's time for you to leave America? It seems you're really not a good fit with us. We want to rule ourselves, while you want us to be ruled by heartless oligarchs. I suggest France, that's always a popular destination. Or Venezeula, you can go and see what real leftism is like when it gets power and refuses to give up. Just bring a suitcase of antibiotics when you go, we wouldn't want you to lose a leg because you got a scratch.

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