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New Chrome Extension Automatically Negotiates With Comcast For Rate Discounts (fiercecable.com)

A technology company called Trim aims to take away the stress and displeasure associated with talking to Comcast service representatives. They have created a bot via a Google Chrome extension that negotiates with Comcast reps over the internet, seeking discounts for various services offered by the cable giant. FierceCable reports: Trim is marketing the tool in this somewhat hilarious YouTube video, which shows the subscriber, "Brian Roberts," typing his Comcast customer information (name, phone number, email, etc.) into the application. The bot takes it from there, initiating chat with a Comcast "analyst" named "Sukhwinder."

"Hi. I'm trying to lower my bill," the bot says. "I don't want to upgrade anything or change my plan at all. I just want to get the best possible rate for my area. Can you help?" As the video shows, users can engage in one of four classic video games as the chat slowly runs its course. (The Trim developers in the video choose Pong.) The bot has two settings: "autopilot," which lets you sit back and watch it negotiate for you; and manual, which lets you step in.

62 comments

  1. No they are not by I4ko · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, they aren't saving anything, it is pretty clear from the video. They are a non-functioning startup with false claims, both on the video and their website, which still has job openings about developers so they can actually ship anything that remotely works.

    This article is false, this is just in ideation phase, with some mockup.

    If you watch the video, most of all they are a company for harvesting personal data, like correct addresses, names, phone numbers and services, which is valuable to marketers. These bozos don't do anything for you, you are a product for them.

    1. Re:No they are not by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can tell that it is fake because the Comcast chat system actually responds.

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  2. Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by rsborg · · Score: 1

    Fake (and recycled) news has been a staple of /. for a decade or more!

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    1. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only here, the proper term is "slashvertisement".

    2. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fake (and recycled) news has been a staple of /. for a decade or more!

      More like:

      One day we all will be asked "Grandpa, what was /. like before its users was taken over by the alt-right?"

      and we might say :

      "It was so grand! it was a place where the most intelligent among us could discuss news for nerds and stuff that mattered!"

    3. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I swear, "alt-right" is the new "communists". Except there actually were communists.

    4. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      Hey now, the Alt-Right exists. I mean, their numbers in the US are probably less than 50,000 and the reality is they have all the political sway of leper colony. But they do actually exist.

    5. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serious question: How does Steve Bannon fit into your picture of this situation?

    6. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      Define "alt-right" in such a way that isn't propaganda coming from the left.

      What exactly does the "alt-right" believe. Who is its leader? Who funds it?

      My guess, it is the new "Racist!" cry from retards who can't actually articulate what they themselves stand for.

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    7. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by stonedown · · Score: 0

      Your guess would be wrong. The left didn't invent the alt-right movement. The information you seek is available. If only there was a way to search for it on the internet. ;-)

    8. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 1

      Well, back in my day, we had The Glorious Meept!! on Slashdot and a Clinton in the White House. And all was right in the world.

      Now, run along, sonny.

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    9. Re:Why read about fake news on FB or Twitter? by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      no, racists are the new communists. Alt-right is the new sasquatch

  3. How long before TrimBot has to talk to ComcastBot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it isn't already. One might ask if Trim has already offered a complementary package to Comcast, tunable to allow some discounting and paid for by the elimination of both the pesky customers and the somewhat costly customer service drones. And so effectively creating an even higher wall to attack if you want some sort of customer service.

  4. I'll have my bot,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    contact your bot, see if we can work something out.
    Jeez what is the world coming to?!

    1. Re:I'll have my bot,, by rgbe · · Score: 1

      My bot is better than your bot, it got an extra 0.453% discount.

    2. Re:I'll have my bot,, by I4ko · · Score: 1

      People in the gutter. More bots, less jobs, more homeless people in the gutter. It will also reach the hipsters that create those bots, though they may enjoy 20-30 years of "prosperity" on the back of others, while the society around then is crumbling, at there will be a morning, where they will wake up, and there will be no one left to steal from but themselves, they would have to exit their automated house, and get out of their automated car, into the automated grocery store, only to find out there is no produce on the shelves, and there won't ever be, because all other people are dead, and the hipster automation killed them.

      All developers that create automation are mass murderers :)

    3. Re:I'll have my bot,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People in the gutter. More bots, less jobs, more homeless people in the gutter. It will also reach the hipsters that create those bots, though they may enjoy 20-30 years of "prosperity" on the back of others, while the society around then is crumbling, at there will be a morning, where they will wake up, and there will be no one left to steal from but themselves, they would have to exit their automated house, and get out of their automated car, into the automated grocery store, only to find out there is no produce on the shelves, and there won't ever be, because all other people are dead, and the hipster automation killed them.

      All developers that create automation are mass murderers :)

      Well , this hypothetical future of yours leaves out where the simpletons like yourself die.. first against the wall when the revolution comes! At least technology minded amongst us have jobs and are produce something in the world. You betrayed your status as a stupid person by your use of the word "hipster" after which nothing you say can be taken seriously. I suggest dropping that word from your vocabulary and join the rest of us in the 21st century.

    4. Re:I'll have my bot,, by Falos · · Score: 1

      You betrayed yours with your grade-school writing.

      That's a hyphen up there. Do you know where yours was supposed to be?

    5. Re: I'll have my bot,, by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      People in call centers have no job, they have no talent or no skill

      That is why they are in the call center

    6. Re: I'll have my bot,, by sheramil · · Score: 1

      the ability to not look at yourself too closely in the mirror in the morning is an important skill, if you work in a call center. or in sales. or politics.

  5. I'm sure Automating negioations with Comcast... by bobbied · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Will get you an automated reply which once Comcast figures out you are a bot, will immediately set you up to be charged the highest rate possible.

    Of course, all the information you provide the "bot" (Name, address, phone number, account number and anything else you offer up like a fool) will be sent to the nice company who is just trying to get you the best deal from Comcast possible (or more likely, just create a customer list of known Comcast customers so they can sell your information to interested parties.)

    Besides, Comcast, like other carriers, only offer their *best* deals to people who are leaving (turn it off! Now!) or New Customers who are shopping around and know what questions to ask. Usually the absolute best deals come with strings, like a 24 month term with an early termination fee that would make Warren Buffett weep and a *discount* only applied to the first month so they can legally advertise the too good to be true deal.

    No BOT can manage this.... Trust me.. It's a scam trying to pass itself off as a way to get around a scam.

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    1. Re:I'm sure Automating negioations with Comcast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could double game it. Sell the info back to Comcast so Comcast can upsell them services.

    2. Re:I'm sure Automating negioations with Comcast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best way to get a discount is to work for Comcast - they're more than just a cable tv company, they're involved in many areas of technology.

    3. Re:I'm sure Automating negioations with Comcast... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They are trying to cash in on the success of that lawyer bot that fights parking tickets. The difference there is that it is a simple case of identifying legal reasons not to pay, and applying them. The rules are fixed, you make the right move and you win. It doesn't matter if they figure out it is a bot or see the same form letter a thousand times, the law is the law.

      When trying to get a discount from Comcast there are no rules. Thus a bot will be ineffective.

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  6. Sullivan by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    We need a Chrome extension that would break Comcast up into pieces.

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    1. Re:Sullivan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because that'll solve your problems.

      There is pretty sparse evidence that chopping up telcos results in lower prices, some fair competition yes, taking them apart, no.

    2. Re:Sullivan by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      There is pretty sparse evidence that chopping up telcos results in lower prices, some fair competition yes, taking them apart, no.

      I'm not suggesting you dismantle Comcast in order to get lower prices. I'm suggesting you dismantle Comcast because they are too damn big and have too much control of the marketplace.

      I'm old enough to remember when there were a bunch of local ISPs and that's what brought prices down.

      Sometimes, just enforcing the law is enough. There's far too much consolidation in telecommunications and cable television. Comcast is a perfect candidate for being made an example. Corporate consolidation and the resultant power they can wield is undemocratic, un-American, anti-capitalist and anti-consumer.; Screw 'em.

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  7. BEWARE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a complete rip off. After getting your name and email address, they ask for cell phone number, then ask for login to your bank account. _Not until you do all of that will you get access to the software_. And then it doesn't work. Stay far far away.

  8. BeauHD - this is a scam by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    BeauHD, take this garbage down. This is a scam. That ask for all your info and bank account number. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR ONCE.

    1. Re:BeauHD - this is a scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR ONCE.

      LOL. That'll be the fucking day

      Filter error: Don't use so many caps

    2. Re:BeauHD - this is a scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I bet Slashdot was paid for this article and that's why it appeared.

  9. Bot vs. bot by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 2

    Since the bulk of the Comcast reps on the other end of the line are doing little more than entering the customer's comments and choosing from a list of pre-made responses, this truly is a bot vs. bot conversation. I've designed and built call centers for companies like American Express. The humans in the call centers are glorified text-to-speech engines with almost no knowledge or expertise on what they're discussing. They follow scripts and don't know how to deviate very far from their loops.

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    1. Re:Bot vs. bot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the bulk of the Comcast reps on the other end of the line are doing little more than entering the customer's comments and choosing from a list of pre-made responses, this truly is a bot vs. bot conversation. I've designed and built call centers for companies like American Express. The humans in the call centers are glorified text-to-speech engines with almost no knowledge or expertise on what they're discussing. They follow scripts and don't know how to deviate very far from their loops.

      So instead of WestWorld, it is CustomerSupportworld?

    2. Re:Bot vs. bot by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      Pretty much, except that there are no "Hosts" and no pleasant experiences with Comcast's CSR's.

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    3. Re:Bot vs. bot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >and no pleasant experiences with Comcast's CSR

      I don't know about the CSRs, (no apostrophe, OK?), but Comcast enjoys fucking you.

    4. Re:Bot vs. bot by nephilimsd · · Score: 1

      Having worked in a call center (for AT&T, though I don't know if that's relevent here), I noticed that some employees were more than happy to bother understanding the products, services, policies, etc and use that information to genuinely help customers. Management would then set policies requiring that only scripted information be given to customers for "Quality Assurance" purposes (consistent experience between reps, discourage customers from calling in multiple times until they got a rep that knew what they were doing).

  10. This is a scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a scam. To work as an editor on a site for tech news surely some technical knowledge is required. Even my aging mother knows that zapping the monkey doesn't really mean you get a million dollars.

    I suppose I can't expect much critical thinking, common sense, or hell, basic brain stem function from an avowed Democrat. BeauHD - bringing Slashdot scams your grandma is savvy enough to avoid and Trump hit pieces. I guess it beats jacking it to Hillary droning "stronger together" or whatever that crooked old bitch was on about.

  11. Ding Ding Ding! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CumCasket strikes again!

  12. they are saving your sanity by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    I call it sweet justice. All I feel sorry for is the poor drone having to waste their lives for a paycheck chatting to a bot. I hate that comcast or all the companies that try to profit through customer disservice pit theses drones against their customer.

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    1. Re:they are saving your sanity by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Comcast will quickly counter it by replacing their reps with bots that talk the customer into expensive upgrades and bundles. Better hope your bot doesn't lose the argument.

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  13. A good case for AI. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    If you have highly scripted Comcast employees from some back of nowhere, sic Watson on them.

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    1. Re:A good case for AI. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm thinking watson would have access to a lot of knowledge and might give people information that he shouldn't.

  14. Of course, the story IS tagged BeauHD (BS) by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Yes indeed. This for anyone who didn't notice the "BeauHD" tag. That's Slashdot's tag for "complete amd utter bullshit.

    BeauHD almost makes one wish we could trade him for that guy who used to post those stupid misinformed hosts file tirades years ago, ABC or whatever he was called.

    1. Re:Of course, the story IS tagged BeauHD (BS) by Raenex · · Score: 1

      He's still around and still peddling the same bullshit, just not as often as he used to. "apk"

    2. Re:Of course, the story IS tagged BeauHD (BS) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean, it's not "bullshit" to use a hosts file effectively. His CLAIMS about the THINGS you can do with it was the bullshit.

  15. You can only ask for discounts on a voice call by Collin · · Score: 1

    I haven't been with Comcast for about year now, but whenever I ask about promos or discounts on chat, they pretty much automatically tell me to call in to the billing/sales voice line and that they don't have the authority to make plan changes via chat. Perhaps some others can chime in with their experiences.

    So by my experience, this automatic negotiator bot is a no go from the git go because you can't negotiate via chat.

    1. Re:You can only ask for discounts on a voice call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that because you can capture the text much easier than recording the phone call?

  16. Comcast: 2014 worst company in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Consumerist stories about Comcast.

    One of the stories: Comcast: 2014 worst company in America. Comcast was selected as worse than Monsanto!

  17. "how does this crap get slashdotted" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "how does this crap get slashdotted"

    - t. comcast shill

  18. CenturyLink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm gonna write a Firefox extension to negotiate with CenturyLink. It's 3 responses to CenturyLink will be "What?", "Bullshit!", and "What?"

  19. Not that I'd sign up for this shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.asktrim.com/tos
    "You are responsible for all reversals, chargebacks, claims, fees, fines, penalties and other liability incurred by the Company, or a third party caused by or arising out of your breach of this Agreement, and/or your use of the Services. You agree to reimburse the Company, a user, or a third party for any and all such liability.

    You acknowledge that you are responsible for the accuracy of all payments sent using the Services, including but not limited to the accuracy of the amount paid and the recipient. The Company shall not be responsible or in any way held liable due to inaccurate payments, including but not limited to sending an incorrect amount of money or sending money to an incorrect recipient."

    In other words we fuck up, you pay for it.

  20. Hilarious YouTube video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The video is really short, it did NOT negotiate a lower cable bill and it certainly is NOT funny let alone "Hilarious".

    Shame on you BeauHD and double-shame on Slashdot.

  21. Clickbait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the video doesn't show you the whole "conversation" until the end showing it actually got any results.

    As such, unproven, thus, useless.

  22. SCAM! SCAM! SCAM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on Slashdot, take this crap down. Advertising for a SCAM is really pathetic.

  23. Comcast's Loyalty Department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When my contract is up, Comcast always jacks up my price. So, all I have to do is call up and say, "Cancel my service; I'm going to a different provider." (e.g, DirectTV). Their response is automatic: They try to plead with you, then they transfer you to the "Loyalty Department." Then you negotiate with them. I kept my same rate for the next contract period!

    The FCC is on their case, too...so, they're trying to act "responsible," when...in fact...they have only their own "bottom line" at stake. Losing a customer is worse than charging a fair price, and the rubes who don't know about the "Loyalty" department are overcharged.

    I'm an AC this time, because I have no doubt Comcast tries to find out the name of folks who share this "privileged" information with others, so they can be punished by "Loyalty" the next time they call.

    1. Re:Comcast's Loyalty Department by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      That's better than AT&T. They doubled my rate, I called to complain, they told me tough luck. I threatened to walk, they said go ahead and transferred me to the cancellation department. Where they were ever so diligent in cancelling. Not once did they try to stop me.
      They had no interest whatsoever in retaining my business.

  24. Did Slashdot just work with thugs to get our info? by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many people are using this, as I am, to finally decide to stop visiting this site. Whatever editor allowed this article to post, needs to get a job in another field.

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  25. alt-right movement by stonedown · · Score: 1

    I don't like to reward churlishness, but here you go:

    http://www.npr.org/2016/11/17/...

    1. Re:alt-right movement by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Read the whole article. Interesting bit.

      The only thing I can think of, is the Left has Streisand Effected the "alt-right" I knew nothing about them until the left told me about them.

      "first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win" - Mahatma Gandhi.

      Guess which stage the left is on this?

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    2. Re:alt-right movement by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      http://slatestarcodex.com/2016...

      The "alt-right" racists seems to be a very small number according to actual statistics. And according to this article "Mostly online". Please note, I am not making excuses to the racists, I am questioning the left's fascination with everything "racist". The artcle I posted the author (not a Trump supporter) makes the same case I just did, calling attention to a dispossessed minority (aka Streisand Effect). More liberals are talking about "alt-right" than there are members of the "alt-right"

      Of course, it is easy to simply say "They are hidden". And Streisanding them is helping your cause how?

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  26. Not fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone is saying it's fake but they just gave me a $10 credit...